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RB Joined: 08 Aug 2009 Total posts: 5 Gender: Unknown |
 Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Where one can discuss DramaWiki improvements?
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2800 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| RB wrote: | | Where one can discuss DramaWiki improvements? |
What kind of improvements?
I've just updated the mediawiki software for DramaWiki to the latest version. I've also added the captcha and spamblacklist extension to it so I want to try opening up account creation to the public again. You can now create accounts without the need to email an admin.
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HanjaeJoined: 22 Nov 2005 Total posts: 142 Location: Australia Age: 20 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| I noticed that the upload function has been removed. It just so happens that I was in the process of creating a new drama page and went off to upload the main image when I discovered users (or I, at least) can no longer upload images. Is this a temporary thing or will it be permanent?
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RBJoined: 08 Aug 2009 Total posts: 5 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Ruroshin wrote: | | RB wrote: | | Where one can discuss DramaWiki improvements? |
What kind of improvements?
I've just updated the mediawiki software for DramaWiki to the latest version. I've also added the captcha and spamblacklist extension to it so I want to try opening up account creation to the public again. You can now create accounts without the need to email an admin. |
Categories are barely used. Genres should be categories, using nationality to fine tune them. A JDrama category isn't that useful when inside you have 1,792 articles. What about more categories, like "highest rating" per season? Or in the case of actors and actress, talent agencies, award winners, hobbies, endorsements, etc?
Tables could be sortable with some tweaks, biography information could be put inside infobox-like templates, etc. While search works well enough for me, it is a pity so little MediaWiki extensions are being used.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 42 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| RB wrote: | Categories are barely used. Genres should be categories, using nationality to fine tune them. A JDrama category isn't that useful when inside you have 1,792 articles. What about more categories, like "highest rating" per season? Or in the case of actors and actress, talent agencies, award winners, hobbies, endorsements, etc?
Tables could be sortable with some tweaks, biography information could be put inside infobox-like templates, etc. While search works well enough for me, it is a pity so little MediaWiki extensions are being used. |
In short:
1. We don't want DramaWiki to be a TV guide - and be used to figure out what to watch. DramaWiki is to be used as a reference for dramas. That's what the various D-Addicts forums are for - to discuss what's good and bad.
2. Categorizing by genre has been discussed many times. People just have a lousy eye for determining a genre for a certain drama. For some editors, everything is a rom-com. I have people on Wikipedia this very second who thinks any movie where someone does a martial arts move is a martial arts film.
3. IMO, ratings are bullshit. DramaWiki is for English-speaking people. It has been proven time and time again that ratings in the country of origin means nothing when it comes to the taste of westerners.
4. The editors are simple folks. We keep the pages very simple, and virtually free of templates and such. We picked our style for that reason.
Please read the style guide thoroughly. I've explain our reasons for many of the things we do there.
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2800 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Hanjae wrote: | | I noticed that the upload function has been removed. It just so happens that I was in the process of creating a new drama page and went off to upload the main image when I discovered users (or I, at least) can no longer upload images. Is this a temporary thing or will it be permanent? |
The new version disabled upload by default. I've re-enabled it again.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 42 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Ruroshin,
I really don't see the reason to allow anons, and users to create their own accounts. Things have been running really smooth up to now. I would still like to see admins create the accounts. Just now reading the new account creations, some of them are really suspicious.
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2800 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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It was mostly to make the lives of the admin easier. I will investigate the Confirm Account extension so that anons can create accounts but the admin will have to approve it before its active.
At the moment though I'm putting my effort into improving the performance of the wiki as its running like a snail right now.
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RBJoined: 08 Aug 2009 Total posts: 5 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Thanks for the answers. Was just wondering why so few features of MW were being used (guess you already noticed I am a Wikipedia user).
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MoerkJJoined: 06 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2039 Location: Germany Age: 37 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Ok, nice to see that Ruroshin upgraded the MediaWiki software from 1.4 (very old!) to the actual 1.15 ... If you notice any strange behavoiur of the wiki then feel free to message me. I'll try to fix that then. The wiki is very slow at the moment. Reason could be that a lot of pages have to be re-rendered and some info in the database is still being updated. I'll have an eye on it.
I just have fixed the access settings to the new syntax. So, anonymous editing is disabled again. To edit DramaWiki you have to create yourself an account. (Account creation is still open for all).
Regards MoerkJ (DramaWiki co-admin)
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 42 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Can I make a suggestion? Disable new accounts for now, until the server performance issues have come back to normal? The combination of having to train dozens of newbies, along with the sluggishness of the server - it really doesn't benefit anyone or the cause.
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MoerkJJoined: 06 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2039 Location: Germany Age: 37 Gender: Male |
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Keiko1981Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Total posts: 859 Location: northern Sweden Age: 28 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I have a suggestion about "Title/Also known as" part.
Is it possible to add, lets say under a Japanese drama what the Chinese/Korean title is?_________________ VSSing until Dec 1st: Kita no Kuni kara ep 1-6
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MoerkJJoined: 06 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2039 Location: Germany Age: 37 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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AFAIK, we (regular editors) have turned that idea down long ago. We list only the official title (incl. romanizations/transcriptions) and one or more popular, but often inofficial, english translations/AKAs.
An exception would be co-productions, for example and Japanese/Korean co-production with an official Japanese title and an official Korean title. There seem to be only very few co-productions. Another exception I know are Korean historical dramas, which often have the titles in Hangul and Hanja.
Inofficial translations in other languages, unrelated to the drama, would become endless. We had already people trying to add Vietnamese or Filippino(?) translations. What would be next? Perhaps Russian and Arabic translations? We don't want that. DramaWiki is for English readers. So the benefit of having other foreign titles is none.
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2800 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I've added the Confirm Account extension to the wiki so now anybody can request to create an account via a form on the wiki, you enter a bit of information about yourself and what you're planning to edit etc. Then it will go into a queue to be either accepted or rejected by the wiki admins.
Wiki Administrators can you please check that you can see the Confirm account requests link under Users and rights on http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Special:SpecialPages
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