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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Anybody willing to translate from Chinese to English?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

There are tons of Japanese dramas with Chinese subtitles. I don't mean the RMVB raws posted here; they need lots of work and the quality is not good. I've got many dramas on DVDs with Chinese subtitles (some traditional, some simplified, some both) that I could easily convert to timed text subtitles. So all the work is to translate the Chinese subtitles to English without caring about timing. I think it's much easier to find people able to translate from Chinese to English rather that Japanese to English.
I know it's not the best possible translation (some times produces strange patterns) but I think the outcome won't be that bad. I can post DVD rips with soft Chinese subtitles (and Japanese in some cases) for people willing to work on that. Then they can download the raw and the Chinese subs, translate it and just post the English subtitles (with their credits of course).
So if you are Chinese, you like Japanese dramas, you speak/write English at a relatively good level and you got some free time, let me know. There are many good dramas available (I've got a few dozens here waiting to be ripped/subbed); More should know that but maybe they are unfamiliar with the idea of ripping/converting/ocring etc... So this way you will just get the raws and the subs and with a simple subtitle editor you can produce your English subs (if you are able to of course) without caring about the rest.
Willing ones hands up!

Some possible dramas you could pick up: Itoshii Kimi E, Ikebukuro West Gate Park, Boku Dake No Madonna, Long Love Letter, First Love, Love 2000, Tokyo Love Cinema and many others.

PS: This is not some kind of recruitment for a fansub group or something. It's for 'clean' personal work that everybody will be benefited of it (since they will get new dramas with Eng subs).

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody willing to translate from Chinese to English?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

okumasama wrote:
Some possible dramas you could pick up: Itoshii Kimi E, Ikebukuro West Gate Park, Boku Dake No Madonna, Long Love Letter, First Love, Love 2000, Tokyo Love Cinema and many others.



I am doing that now for two k-dramas. IBut when I'm done with them, there;s this J-drama that I'd really love to sub and I wonder if you have the raws for it. It's called YASHA, stars Hideaki Ito mainly. Do you happen to have the raws for this one? Or anyone who has it?

It's not a new drama nor is it popular... so I do wonder if anyone has it. I'm guessing not many will be interested in this drama but j-drama lovers who've been around may recognise this to be an excellent drama but overly under-rated (outside Japan I think). It saddens me to see a great drama go un-noticed, that's why I'd like to sub this.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody willing to translate from Chinese to English?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I am doing that now for two k-dramas. IBut when I'm done with them, there;s this J-drama that I'd really love to sub and I wonder if you have the raws for it. It's called YASHA, stars Hideaki Ito mainly. Do you happen to have the raws for this one? Or anyone who has it?


I don't have that and I couldn't find it anywhere to buy (with Chinese subs). Anyway when you are free and in mood contact me to give you a full list so you may find something you would like to do Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Maybe??   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hmmm, I can read Traditional Chinese (probably figure out most of the Simplified Chinese) and only ok w/ English (even though I've been here more than 15yrs), wonder if I'm qualify for this job? Part of me is interested to help, but part of me is not sure I'll be able to finish w/ the full time job and a baby. Also not sure if people would be ok w/ my translation, someone will have to correct my grammar and re-phrase some sentences Tongue

I can probably only devote half hour a day to do this if that's acceptable speed. I think if we can get more people do this, it'll be faster and more interesting.

I also have a collection of drama in Chinese (although the source is VCD or VHS), and am building a small collection of English sub ones too.

Well, let me know,

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i suggest writing a script to convert the format in softsub that can be translated automatically to english in an online translator website. after that convert the format back to softsub.

I dunno whether anyone has thought of this before, but i've actually written a script to do that. it's just that the translation is not perfect. but i guess since the 'english' can still be understood, anyone can easily improve on it.

The trick is to extract the subtitles to a file, without the softsub format, then just sent it for translation. after that, convert it back to softsub by extracting the timing from the original softsub file automatically.

I dont mind trying out for you to see how it works out. u can contact me.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

peeInMyPantz wrote:
i suggest writing a script to convert the format in softsub that can be translated automatically to english in an online translator website. after that convert the format back to softsub.

I dont mind trying out for you to see how it works out. u can contact me.


That's intersting. I think that this method, or a similar one is used sometimes on Chinese versions of Korean DVDs, like 1% of anything. The problem ism if you don't understand chinese at all the results are pretty bad. let me give you an example from episode 15:
51
00:03:50,744 --> 00:03:52,143
What?

52
00:03:52,178 --> 00:03:55,011
At f*** what?

53
00:03:55,048 --> 00:03:57,744
ls not to say
believe me?

54
00:03:57,784 --> 00:04:02,278
Want me to
person a?

55
00:04:02,322 --> 00:04:04,347
Write on the paper
has tried

56
00:04:04,391 --> 00:04:08,851
Leave so and
to the proof

57
00:04:08,895 --> 00:04:11,386
Proof what?

58
00:04:11,431 --> 00:04:14,366
Proof l are
sincerely to you


If you know chinese, you understand what has happened in line 52 Crazy
As you can see, it's really bad, and someone who either knows Chinese or Korean needs to edit them. The only good thing about them is that they have the timing. I'm not sure your translation in babelfish would be much better.

And besides, there are not a lot of softsubs available for Chinese, Japanese or Korean shows I think, because making softsubs is really hard - an OCR program to make English subs only has to recognize 26 characters; you can see where I'm going. it means a lot of manual imput in character based languages, and one member of d-addicts has told me, 6 hours of work for one episode alone.

Nevertheless I think it's a really interesting idea - when machine translation gets better! machine translation isn't too bad between romantic and germanic languages (ie: german-Italian) and really good between languages of the same base (Dutch-German-English) but is really still minimal between asian Germanic-Romance languages, unfortunately (I've studdies this a bit)

Now, a program I'd like to see is an auto-timer that times for you ;)

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Well that drops the level really down. I've said I prefer to release faster than maximize quality but the current market/free translators are only there to make things worse.
I use IBM's system (It's supposed to be the most developed one) sometimes when I'm translating from Japanese to English and I'm really stuck to something just to get an idea but using what the automatic translation software has produced would produce really bad subtitles.
Some people would of course prefer some bad subtitles rather than RAW but here we are talking about totally bad constructed English that only make things worse.
The idea is good though, the automatic translators are bad.

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

pockiiee wrote:
And besides, there are not a lot of softsubs available for Chinese, Japanese or Korean shows I think, because making softsubs is really hard - an OCR program to make English subs only has to recognize 26 characters; you can see where I'm going. it means a lot of manual imput in character based languages, and one member of d-addicts has told me, 6 hours of work for one episode alone.


I'm doing that for about a year now. My Japanese & Chinese OCR databases grew really big now so it won't take more than 10 minutes to complete an episode if of course the subtitles have a font that's included in my databases. That why I'm asking if somebody is willing to translate. I'll provide him/her with Trad/Simpl Chinese (or even Japanese) softsubs. But if it isn't any good English it doesn't worth it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: interested?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I recently just joined/discovered this site and seeing how much work you people put into it makes me want to help out in some way. I can read chinese and am pretty good at english.. and currently studying Japanese. So, if there's anyway I can help sub, that'd be great. But, I don't really know how to do it even though I just read the posts so you'll have to help me along in that respect. And are there ppl that will revise my subbing, that'd make me feel better hehe.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Will be most glad to help. Chinese (Trad or Simplified) is fine! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:31 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I need a few lines (13 lines to be exact) translated from Chinese to English for Xiao Ao Jiang Hu. It's a song. This is the last bit of translation I need for me to release episode 5.

Can anyone do it?

The link is below.

http://www.wxfs.org/SOD/SOD05Song/

Just post the response below or email me at schizobinky@yahoo.com

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Okusamma, I am interested in translating the Chinese subs for IWGP (now that school is out I will have more time to do this stuff). If they are ripped and (preferrably timed so I can watch the video for refernce also) please send them to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i can help to translate from chinese to english, but i dont really know how to put it into the video, so if you can send me the script of the whole video, i can translate and send it back then you do the timing and place the english subs into the video yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: I would like to participate!   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hi! Big Smile I would like to help translate from chinese to english, although I should probably say up front I am only motivated by j-dramas that I like... heh... Cool

So if you are still looking for helpers, do contact me (pm or email), yah? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:31 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hi, i would like to help too Smile I can do translating from Chinese to English or the other way round, hmm but i dun hav any programs to work with and i guess someone has to teach me how to use it too..anyway, if u really need help, do PM me! I'm willing to learn and spend time on this, as a token of appreciation to all the fansubbers out there! salut (though i dunno how it would benefit them) Big Smile
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