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soft subs vs hard subs - which do you perfer
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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PS3, 360, AppleTV, Tvix, PopCorn Hour and similar media capable hardware are growing in numbers, but none of them are capable of properly handling soft subtitles.

I can play softsubs just fine on my PS3 - running Linux Big Smile


hahaha.. YDL i presume? ;) i'm all for softsubs.. if theyre not being misappropriated Cussing


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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shadow-of-sin wrote:

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PS3, 360, AppleTV, Tvix, PopCorn Hour and similar media capable hardware are growing in numbers, but none of them are capable of properly handling soft subtitles.

I can play softsubs just fine on my PS3 - running Linux Big Smile


hahaha.. YDL i presume? ;)

Nope Ubuntu, didn't want to waste my bandwith on a whole DVD for YDL.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i prefer hardsubbed. firstly, why i prefer hardsubbed coz i don't understand the language they spoke. secondly, i doesn't know how to insert the softsubbed into the movie/drama. therefore, i love to see the colour of the subtitle... hehehe Tongue
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I prefer softsubs, except for maybe any karaoke that should be hardsubbed onto the video.

Just wondering, how come hardly anyone (well no one I've noticed so far) in the drama fansub community uses a modern container like MKV and modern video codec (H264) for their releases? IMO they are vastly superior e.g the use of H264 decreases the file size while retaining the same quality.


You mean old dramas? As far as I've noticed, the newer dramas are in mkv and h264. Well, at least all the newer ones I've gotten are encoded in that at least. And I started getting those last spring.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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H264 takes quite a lot of CPU.

For some reason people tend to confuse H.264 with HD ("high definition"). Of course both are completely unrelated. Even YouTube has started using H.264. The decoder has been in Shockwave Flash for more than a year. Playback of standard resolution H.264 video results in 5% load on a 2.6GHz CPU (single core). Xvid takes 2%. Big deal.

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If the quality difference between XviD/DivX and H264 was just as bad as MPEG-1 and XviD/DivX, then I can see making the jump.

H.264 makes Xvid/DivX look like MPEG-1 indeed. It's just a matter of bitrate. Here's an example:
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This is H.264 at 622kbps:


And here's Xvid at 622 kbps:

See the difference?

Anime fansubbers have looked at the numbers and realized that computer speed is no longer the bottleneck. The new bottleneck is network bandwidth, especially upload speed. In a BT context, small files will generate a larger number of complete copies (i.e. more seeders) within a given time period. If you release files that are literally hundreds of megabytes larger than necessary, you should not be surprised to see more and more people using streaming sites.

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With the current state of the economy world-wide, I'm afraid that we'll be stuck with using DivX/XviD for at least another two years.

That doesn't make sense unless your goal is to kill off what is left of that economy.

DivX is switching to H.264 and MKV as we speak. You can download the new player here: http://labs.divx.com/node/7405

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

soft subs!

actually i'm fine with hard subs too...

but with soft subs, I can download RAWs from a site(which requires seeding back for ratio) and find the subs somewhere else if it doesn't have subs..

but...either one will do for me though..as long as it is in english...or malay..
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