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jholicJoined: 03 Feb 2004 Total posts: 6308 Location: missin' hawaii Gender: Male |
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 Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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England has chances too.
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 Not any more they don't.....I knew it they were going to lose and they did....2-3 at home non the less. To top it all England played extremely badly I mean very, very, very badly. They were like nobodies. First half in the first 10mins or so England had 2 chances and then after a goal keeping error from Carson England were 1-0 down.....second Croatia goal was down to bad defending. England were outplayed, Croatia payed really good, pressed England and kept the ball. England never even closed down, they let Croatia play. Every player was awful except for Crouch. Players like Gerrard, Lampard never produced. The English defenders were very poor, esp the right back Bridge.
Second half England came out changed system from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2. Replaced Wright-Philips with Beckham and brought on Defoe for barry and Beckham hats off to the guy delivered. First goal England scored was a penalty don't know what the Croatia player was doing pulling on Defoes shirt in Penalty box when the Goalkeeper clearly had the cross covered. Lampard scored and England back in it. Some decent Carson saves and a quality Beckham cross to Crouch who controlled the ball nicely on his chest and cooly shot for goal to equalise. What did England do? Step back and allow Croatia to keep on playing and the 3rd Croatia goal was well a soft goal, noone closed down Petric and he had the space to shot from distance to make it 3-2. England out. End of.
And England deserved to lose to be honest. Croatia deserved to win and England are out of Euro 2008 and a good thing. The manager has to take alot of the blame, he made poor decisions throughout the campaign and when a teamsof Englands calibre had to reply on Israel to hold or defeat Russia for them to still have a chance to qualify well that just says it all. England should have easily won this group and Israel having defeated Russia on Saturday gave England hope and put England's qualification back into their own hands. A important match the England players had to perform with their hearts and they never. They were nervous throughout. I have no idea way Carson was in nets in the first place, sure paul robinson had a couple of bad games then why not play David James? A important game like this and giving Carson a chance was asking for trouble.
Sack the manager, bring in someone with more experience and replace the whole Senior England squad with the England under 21's at least they have more pride in playing for England then most of the overrated Primadonna's in the senior side who believe its there God-given right to play.
England need players who can pass the ball, who can play. England need more options in attack, someone who would succeed Beckham on the right of midfield. We need players who can score out of nothing and practically win games single-handedly. We need players like Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho. Another quality forward and a set of players who don't switch off and play til the last. Now its the time for England to reflect not go crazy and impose quota's on foreign players playing in the Premier league, which I fear might happen as a knee-jerk reaction. Since 1966 (won World cup) what have England achieved when the number of foreign players in top flight football was at a minimum nothing. Its not that English players are not getting the chance to play if they are good enough they will play. Its because they are not good enough. You don't see many english players playing in foreign leagues, thats one problem. The other is the coaching system at grass-roots. Kids should be encouraged to be creative, to be footballers not forced into a system and discouraged to be creative.
boy a long rant....its cuz I'm really, really gutted and very, very mad  at the English players.....
I'm gonna be supporting France now lol, who I believe have the talent to win Euro 08 but you can never know.....
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YaGaMi82Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Total posts: 47 Location: U.K Age: 26 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| England are out! We won't be going to the England camp next year when Euro 2008 programmes are on. I can't believe they didn't qualify from that group with the players available. Scotland on the otherhand fought like true lions in their group of death and were really unlucky not to make it. Oh well looks like they gotta get their act together for World Cup qualifiers now.
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jholicJoined: 03 Feb 2004 Total posts: 6308 Location: missin' hawaii Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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sahansah: the thread does have some interest. when you first started it, i was a bit concerned because of what i've heard of some soccer fans (hooligans). it sometimes goes too far (sometimes happens in american sports too, so we're not innocent).
i don't mind a good discussion and friendly trash-talking, but i just don't want any all-out flame wars.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| jholic Your team line up....Dunn is going to be suspended for one match as is Fabregas so these two won't be playing this weekend. Terry may be fit enough to play but vidic's participation is in doubt after a back problem. Don't know if his going to be fit enough to play on Saturday, we'll find that out on Saturday....
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hope your team wins against Lazio and all the best with Olympiakos if I had to choose a team to support in greece it would be...Panathinaikos 
jkin totally would support Olympiakos
...not Shrek..I mean Rooney 
- but I won't begrudge Arsenal the premership title as long as Manchester United win the European Champions league 
or him being canadian
to Scots
lol
.....Thats what I keep telling myself
