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4everU Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Total posts: 238 Gender: Unknown |
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maakoplaJoined: 04 Apr 2006 Total posts: 294 Location: Finland Age: 21 Gender: Female |
 Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | | kinda have to say i agree with you...the reason i do like th ending is offcourse because iljimae did not die and none of my other favorite characters died, and the fact that the main bad guys like the king and eun cha's father were not killed is actually amazing. Also i am happy that iljimae did not end up with eun cha, thats what i really thought was gonna happen. I wanted him with bong soon. But since she's alive i am happy, that means she has a chance with him... |
What you said was a good thing. But in a way a hero is supposed to die in the end in order to become a legend. So I was a bit disappointed that iljiame didn't die. I thought his motto "Not to kill anyone anymore" was good but that made him somewhat too pure. A hero should be a bit dirty like Batman.
I kinda liked Eun Chae's father. I don't think he was that bad at all. He was just stupid. The king made a good use of him so I kinda pitied the man.
It was pretty unusual to let the king live even after all he had done all those bad deeds but they should have at least changed him to someone else. It was totally obvious that he was not able to be king anymore. He became very weak and that clashed with the way how hard it actually was to remain at the trone. Of course most of his fears were just illusions and he killed the most dangerous men while being sane but still. Those mandarins and other men wouldn't let insane and weak man like that remain the king. And his strongest supporter Chul had died too so no one would protect him anymore.
I know that the director himself said that Kong He bought another pair of the shoes for iljiame but why did he shout "Where has she gone off to again?" after receiving them. Or is this a silly mistake of the translator? He obviously meant Bong Soo._________________ Now watching:
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4everUJoined: 24 Aug 2007 Total posts: 238 Gender: Unknown |
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4everUJoined: 24 Aug 2007 Total posts: 238 Gender: Unknown |
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.Silent.Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Total posts: 190 Location: Poland Age: 22 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| 4everU wrote: | AWWWWWWWWWW! Silent, i love junki 's animation pics that you have...he looks so damb cute...like the hair style!  |
Hehe Me too! I like it very much!  Thanx! 
| 4everU wrote: | | wow..first time heard someone say...he should haved died...true about a hero having to be somewut dirty...but that's the whole unqiuness of this drama...the hero is not dirty..and a real hero i believe is someone who never hurts anyone (kill( because if u do u are like the rest...and the hero dying at the end makes it seem like..."no matter what u did, u still died..and those who u saved are in danger again..so haha...so him being alive wihtotu telling anyone...makes it different...everyone thinks he's a legend and is dead...but when someone is a legend and is alive is another thing! |
I agree. If he would died at the end this whole story would be meaningless (as for me).
The hero must live to be ready to kick the asses of another bad guys which can appear in the future 
And he was a bit dirty - coz he was a burglar
EDIT: Do you guys know when will be subs for iljimae morning special? 
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4everUJoined: 24 Aug 2007 Total posts: 238 Gender: Unknown |
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.Silent.Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Total posts: 190 Location: Poland Age: 22 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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@ 4everU Don't cry honey, just re-watch it! 
I've finally watched ep 19 and I must say that someone really screwed it. Not whole episode, but the part when Iljimae is in the palace.
How could Yongee dressed as Iljimae walk inside of palace gate in a bright day without mask on his face and no one of guards saw him? Could someone explain it to me? Coz for me it's stupid
And the best part was when his and his mother eyes meet. So touching. It gives hope that they will meet coz his mother knows how they call him and she knows how he looks.  (I hope she won't die in the last ep...  )
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4everUJoined: 24 Aug 2007 Total posts: 238 Gender: Unknown |
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maakoplaJoined: 04 Apr 2006 Total posts: 294 Location: Finland Age: 21 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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But stil. Even if he was sneaking around it was weird that in the middle of the day no one noticed him. Where were guards they shoudl be ptarollin all over? Usually on the "castle' ground" there should be a lot of slaves/guards/workers.
| Quote: | | I agree. If he would died at the end this whole story would be meaningless |
In a way it was actually meaningless the way it was. King didn't die and didn't step down from the throne. Things were back to what they were in the beginning. Though now the king was just crazy. No way how much I look at the script and try to like it I just can't. If Iljimae died it would have been meaningless and when he didn't die it all was still meaningless. I mean. What was the whole purpose of this drama? Screenwriter started so many subplots but then forgot about them. What about new king? What about corrupted government? The only difference between the ending and the beginning was that at the ending people had a hero to talk about. And what's the difference if Iljimae dies now or later. He will die one day for sure so...
| Quote: | | the hero is not dirty..and a real hero i believe is someone who never hurts anyone (kill( because if u do u are like the rest...and the hero dying at the end makes it seem like..."no matter what u did, u still died..and those who u saved are in danger again.. |
But that makes this drama very naive. There can't be a pure good in this world. I think that it was a beautiful idea that Iljiame didn't kill anyone because he wanted to stop killing. But since he didn't kill a soul it made the whole stuff unrealistic. Then why put him into fighting scenes? (he looked like a little monkey jumping on the walls) Why not just make him sneak and make audience hold thier breath with scenes like him almost getting caught and stuff. Some fighting scenes were good but some just ridiculous especially those when there were like 10 guards vs. one Iljimae. I would have wanted to see more one on one fighting.
Then again in a way this drama got a proper ending because from the start Young-ae just wanted to catch the man who killed his father and make him apologize in front of that titis tree. But I feel like this isn't satisfying enough. I feel like it's too simple._________________ Now watching:
Japanese dramas:Long Vacation
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SilentwolfdogJoined: 21 Jul 2007 Total posts: 68 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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He didn't kill? Then what did he throw at the guards that put them on the ground when he was chasing down the king? I couldn't see what items were used. I just assumed its darts he used to throw at the paper. And doesn't darts kill?
Anyhow, I liked the idea of a hero that doesn’t kill. Because I am pretty sure there are people like him that exist in this world.
If he killed the king...then what? The kingdom will collapses and more people would get hurt, especially those that he loves. And neither of them Iljimae or his brother is suit to be the king. And I am pretty sure none of those nobles will listen to them. So instead, he will forever stay by as king's shadow; keeping him straight like he should have been in first place as a king.
And of course we all know revenge doesn't make person feel better usually. Iljimae is better than that, and he is following his ideal that's all.
Anyhow, yeah I will miss this series. It's first k-drama where it got me on the edge, wanting to watch the next ep so badly. I think if I will ever buy DVD of k-drama, this will be the first one. Even though the ending isn't what I wanted, but everyone's alive so it's all good. Rest will be left to our imagine. ^^
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There are also deaf fans of Asian drama, so it would help all of us if spoken English is subbed as well even if it is just one word or one sentence out of whole sentences. So we would not be lost when subtitles suddenly disappered when they speak little English.
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.Silent.Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Total posts: 190 Location: Poland Age: 22 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Not everyone. My fav Sol Dol died. 
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SilentwolfdogJoined: 21 Jul 2007 Total posts: 68 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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^Well, heh.
Yeah, that's true.
But usually in drama like this, you would see beloved characters dies or become messed up in the last ep. And it doesn't happen in this one which is a nice break.
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There are also deaf fans of Asian drama, so it would help all of us if spoken English is subbed as well even if it is just one word or one sentence out of whole sentences. So we would not be lost when subtitles suddenly disappered when they speak little English.
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.Silent.Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Total posts: 190 Location: Poland Age: 22 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I've finally watched the last ep 
Well... I must say that it wasn't what I though it will be... To many unfinished things...
Like this series would need few episodes more to clear that story. I've been left with too many question without an answer.
One obvious thing for me is that he didn't die  People in the village were talking that he died but the scene of breaking into palace again was in the first ep and he was talking back then to Ajik and Dae Shik. So he was alive
And the best and most touching scene for me was when he was struggling with opening the lock and Sol Dol appeared. I'm so happy that he had his minute in the last episode (even if as a Yongee imaginary)
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But usually in drama like this, you would see beloved characters dies or become messed up in the last ep. |
Really? So I watch only those with happy endings
I'm really happy that Shi Hoo helped him. I was wondering almost all the time since he discovered that the person which was supposed to be his father is not one in reality why Danee wasn't telling him the truth about his father. And now *BANG!* big backing in memories in the last episode and suddenly he felt that he must do something good for his late family and helped Iljimae. What a twist 
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maakoplaJoined: 04 Apr 2006 Total posts: 294 Location: Finland Age: 21 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Silentwolfdog wrote: | He didn't kill? Then what did he throw at the guards that put them on the ground when he was chasing down the king? I couldn't see what items were used. I just assumed its darts he used to throw at the paper. And doesn't darts kill?
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I didn't pay attention but he definitely didn't kill one soul. He was trained not to kill so he didn't._________________ Now watching:
Japanese dramas:Long Vacation
Korean DramasBreathless, East of Eden, Tazza
Taiwanese dramas Wish to see you again, Bull Fighting
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