Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Ok I am a bit confused here .... watching episode 8 at the mo.
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Yong have gone in to the palace to see the king but that guy wasn't he the evil man that got Yong family killed? Or is do they just look alike? I mean in episode 7 he was trying to locate Yong and ordered they dispose of his sister
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I really like this drama, a lot more than Hong Gil Dong.
Why ? maybe i just prefer those characters... seems a lot like but different, dunno why :p
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I just hope that Yang brother (Ja Dol) will finish with his "sister" (Eun Chae)
I don't want to see Yang interfering in this relation but... i m sure i ll be disappointed...
But those two are really my two favorite char in this drama.
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I m sure the king was the one who stabbed Yong real father... After all, he said in ep8 (or maybe7) that he need now the low level class to support him and so he show a nice face.
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
@Sak,
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Yup, the king indeed was the one who originally had Yong's father murdered. I think Yong's father was one of the men who had helped the king get into power. When he no longer supported him, the king had him killed.
He obviously doesn't know who the real Yong is, and that's what kept the poor boy alive.
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really like this drama, a lot more than Hong Gil Dong. Why ? maybe i just prefer those characters... seems a lot like but different, dunno why :p
Iljimae plays more like a live anime, especially a "shonen"/boy's comic story. The character development is very thin (in spite of all the tragedies, our future Iljimae seems to have a short emotional memory!), and there hasn't been many scenes (though that seems to change with episode 9!) where any of the four leads develop a rapport with each other, stuff that we take for granted in K-drama, be it trendy or sageuks.
There's political intrigue and tragic stuff, but the story is really about a hot blooded, clownish boy who dreams of being a hero. His (step) parents love him but think he's kinda hopeless. Yet through his fighting spirit and a set of tests, he will become that hero, somebody everybody will be proud of. His future rival is a cold, but tortured man who end up doing anything to raise himself out of his humble origins. The story is essentially broken down into cool little missions that emphasizes planning, will, and really cool toys. As he completes each mission, he learns more about his true origins and in turn will eventually face (defeat?) the Ultimate Boss. At that point, Iljimae will have fully come of age and become The Hero that he dreamed of as a callow, lazy youth.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Thanks for answering me Morphine & Belleza ..... I did wonder if I was going mad ... everywhere I read like on dramabean and wiki,
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it says that Yong's father elder brother had been the one that framed Yong's dad about the corruption. I accepted that no problem, then the appearance of the king, just baffled me as I know his uncle was definately not the king.
Anyhow now I can carry on without this bugging me.
BTW does anyone know if the kid that played the younger Yong starred in anything before this? I am sure I have seen him somewhere but I can't place him.
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Just finish watching episode 9 & 10!!! I really love it and i am soooooooo excited now after watching it! and now i want to know what will happen next!
it getting with every new episode more more excited
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Just finished 9 + 10 too, thanks for subs KST!!
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I cant believe Eun Chae, mistaken Yong-ee for beating up a child...i was so sad for him. I love their scenes, just look into their eyes, they act w/ so much adoration...^^ it was beautiful
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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The relationship here is a bit too complex or overboard in my opinion. I mean, Ja Dol is probably his half-brother (enough hints). So, Yong's half-brother and Yongs step-father had a hand in Yongs real fathers demise. If you watch episode 1 you would see that both Ja Dol and Swe Dol placed something in Yongs house which caused Yongs fathers dead.
And then Ja Dol would denounce his half-sister and caused her death. So Ja Dol practically has killed his father and his half-sister and now he is hunting his half-brother (Yong) down.
I like this drama, but somehow it has too many similarity to Hong Gil Dong (which I don't find bad). I just hope they don't mess the ending just like they did with Gil Dong.
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
This series was draggy in the beginning, and I admit that I kind of gave up on it for a bit. I usually skipped through eps which I didn't have subs for and not really pay attention to them. I'm all caught up on subs & raw now, and I just have to comment on episode 6 & 7 now I've watched them with subs,
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I'm only half way through 6 with subs, I already know how the next episode ends and already it's pretty heartbreaking to see Yongi/Geom and his sister keep missing each other. She ran to the roadside when he was running forward on a horse, and she was SO close to him at the boat until the **** (excuse my French) guards copped her. I really started crying when she was just about to run to the two and they turned around to chase her, only for Yongi to notice who they were chasing. This is where I've just paused it to comment on it, even without subs, the execution part is just horrible next episode. I felt so much for Yongi there because he thought he could save her with the rigged rope, yet he didn't know it was replaced. Though this scene doesn't even compare to the cell scene for me. They were right next to each other and she couldn't say a thing to him, it was so depressing to see him keep pushing her away from him.
These episodes has left a deep impression on me, because I found this drama actually quite bored me eventually. My mind has really changed now. This drama seriously pulls out all the stops, I'm not used to seeing deaths in dramas too much and not only have we seen Yongi's sister killed right in front of him, but then there is that little girl who claimed she would marry Yongi when she's older who was killed in the a pretty horrible way.
Another thing I didn't realize and that was Ja Dol and Yongi ARE actually half brothers. This is what I get for not paying attention to subs and only wanting to see LJK. This as well goes back to how horrible his sisters death was, because it was half Ja Dols fault in the first place that she was hung, no? To think that he is half to blame for his real half sisters death is really sad.
I really, really hope he has lovely, heartwarming (omg, cheesy) reunion with his mother, because this poor guy has been through a heck of a lot since the start of this series. It'd be so great if we could see him meet up with his mother. Though, I take it he is not going to find her due to the outcome of looking for his sister?
Now on the romance side of things ( I'll shut up in a minute) I really have no preference for who he ends up with. I can't make up my mind here. Bong Soon is hilarious, and definitely my favorite female character in the series. Watching her after she finds out Yongi is the boy from her childhood that she lost at the cliff, and after she gets so captivated by him is SO funny and pretty cute to watch. But, I can't see how Yongi could put up with her his whole life if he was to end up with her. Eun Chae is a pretty dull girl, but she wins me over because of the exact character she plays. There's no denying she and Iljimae get all the best scenes. The setting for the kissing scene was beautiful, I saw lots of spoilers pics and gifs of it before I actually saw the scene itself only to be disappointed by how much the kiss sucked. I'm looking forward to see who, or even if he ends up with either girl, but I don't think that's really going to be the focus for the last 4 episodes. Right now, I'm more worried about the fate of his dad.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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I like this drama, but somehow it has too many similarity to Hong Gil Dong (which I don't find bad).
Iljimae lacks the character development of Hong Gil Dong and most other sageuks. The only texture in the relationships involves the two half-brother and his parents. Outside of it, the emotional entanglements feel kinda like something you'd seen in banjun dramas. It's there, but only on the surface.
BUT . . . this is also much funner than Hong Gil Dong, and most dramas this year. Basically, the story is just an excuse for Iljimae to execute missions, and the missions are really cool (esp. episode 9 . . . pork skin?!? ewww!!) And it's fun watching Lee Jung Ki in smarmy, sneaky mode, playing the callow youth who's also apparently a genius thief. In episode 9+10, we finally see all the triangles finally brew, and it's a nice break from the real fun. Ultimate Ninja Iljimae stealing stuff from rich people with crap beards!!
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I hope that this show gets extended to 24 episodes. The show doesn't feel like it's really started until episode 7. Plus it's going to be messy trying to resolve all the secrets between everybody in the show. I don't know if there's enough episodes to cover that without seriously walking over everything.
To me, the most moving bit from episode 7+8, when Yong's sister died, was really Yong's mother weeping over both him and Ja Dol. Ja Dol does not know who is his true father, and he doesn't yet realize that he unwittingly sent his half-sister to her death. And his budding friendship with Yong's true mother . . . . yikes this is going to be messy. So, in that regard, I like how the surrogate relationships of both these half brothers are building through episode 9.
I didn't like LJK very much through the first 5 episodes, but now that Illjimae is settling into its heist storyline, he's terrific. If Korea ever does a live version of Peter Pan, LJK is your guy. Smarmy, sleazy, devilish, just a bad, bad guy . . who's charming as hell, that's pure Lee Jung Ki.
Han Hyo Joo's measurably improved her acting since her last drama. Eun Chae is written as your classic, angelic princess with heart of gold. But, here, she brings kind of a stern, quiet intensity to the role. She throws piercing looks at Yong that shame him, and Ja Dol that say she can share his pain.
It's hard not to love Park Shi Hoo here. He gives a stoic, but not cold presence to Ja Dol. His character's moral conscience comes through believably in the performance, as well as his character's natural gift as an investigator.
At this point, I prefer Yong with Bong Soon. Yeah, maybe that's a bit HGD but I don't feel a lot of chemistry between Jung Ki and Hyo Joo. Too much age difference?
I don't know about you, but melting pork skin is just ICKY. Uhhh, and I'm not sure how he convinced his buddy without tipping off that he just might be doing something really illegal.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
After seeing ep 9 & 10 something I find is a bit strange.
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During the end of episode 10 he used a stone to throw out the the lantern then grabbed the girl. But he's not that good yet with his fighting/martial arts skills, for he not learned it yet. That for the next episode according to the preview ... so how the heck could he maneuver these moves? And also when he went over a fence earlier, he somersaulted over. Very funny that Not to mention that he can now make bombs! Wonder who taught him that?!
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