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The Korean Wave: Is It Really Waning?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I think its still good, innovative dramas like Soulmate, Whats Up Fox and recently Hyena more than make up for the standard dramss which copy each other (still usually pretty good).


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I think its still good, innovative dramas like Soulmate, Whats Up Fox and recently Hyena more than make up for the standard dramas which copy each other (still usually pretty good).


I felt that 2006-2007 were transitional seasons for the major networks. Melodramas were no longer profitable, and rom coms were having problems consistently reaching an audience. Basically the last 2 years, we've seen all the stations start thinking outside the box with their programming, and for the most part, and many of the shows that have been coming out have been breaking outside the common stereotypes of K-drama.

It seems like that 2008 is the year that we're seeing the results of Hallyu's adolescent period.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

hehe! i dont know if korean wave is waning or not..but i'm pretty sure it's waning for me...


maybe i'm just bored easily..but then again, i'm still enjoying chinese dramas..even though it was the first things that i watch a long way before i'm into K - dramas...


but..i think J - dramas is still the best for me..it short and it really weird sometime...which fit me! LOL!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

belleza wrote:

That's partially why I kinda roll my eyes about the backlash over Asian remakes, as if remakes were itself not common (or necessarily bad) all over the world. When Korea remakes a Japanese show or film (or vice versa) or an American TV show, you don't hear the same mock disapproval. Somehow because it's "Asian" it makes all the copycat and derivative products more or less "okay."


The backlash over Asian remakes is not so much because of the act of remaking Asian films, but the way they do it.

- First and foremost, a lot of the American audience who watch Asian remakes are usually not even aware they're remakes in the first place. Credit is rarely given to the original creators which leaves the viewers thinking Hollywood is the source of all that creativity!

- Asian remakes are typically "dumbed down" to be more palatable to the American audience.

- Storylines are usually altered in a way which totally ruins the magic of the original.

I for one, cannot wait for the spate of Asian films (especially Korean) to be remade by Hollywood. It will be interesting to see how My Sassy Girl, A Tale of Two Sisters, Oldboy etc will turn out.
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Yeah, but that itself is consistent with the majority of Hollywood remakes. Rarely does the remake approach the original, because very rarely would the director (or the producers behind it) consider a remake anything more than a paying job. Wings of Desire becoming City of Angels (which I liked.) Le Femme Nikita remade into Point of No Return. Abre Los Ojos remade into Vanilla Sky. It's not just Hollywood; Chungmuro had done many remakes as well with varying level of success. I understand why they remade Sekachu (megahit weepie in Japan), but they turned it into a happy go-lucky travelogue?!? Bleh!!!

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I for one, cannot wait for the spate of Asian films (especially Korean) to be remade by Hollywood. It will be interesting to see how My Sassy Girl, A Tale of Two Sisters, Oldboy etc will turn out.


I feel pretty strongly about the remake of Ima Ai ni Yukimasu / Be With You; the original film was a popular Japanese weepie, and the original novel is just perfect for another movie adaptation.

I'm not sure how I feel about My Sassy Girl. The cast isn't appetizing, and Hollywood rom-coms aren't good at high concept whimsy. BUT they hired Yann Samuel to direct this piece, who did Jeux d'enfants (staring actress winner Marion Cotillard of En Vie en Rose.) And that film ain't nothing but whimsical! Actually, Marion would make a perfect sassy girl . . .

Oldboy and Sympathy for a Lady Vengeance are interesting problems, because those are considered auteur. It's one thing to remake a popular movie like My Sassy Girl or Il Mare; it's another to remake a runner up to the Palm D'or. It would be like Korea remaking Pulp Fiction. Or Germany remaking Ichi the Killer.

Remake of Tale of Two Sisters will be straight up terrible. But really blonde! Laugh
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Tom Larsen president of YA Entertainment made an interesting point in an interview by The Korea Herald:

"I know, of course, that Korean TV dramas are made for Korean audiences. However, I believe that sometime soon, if not already, total Korean TV-drama viewership will be greater outside of Korea. The number of non-Korean viewers will be greater than the number of Korean viewers. This is an amazing point to ponder, and the implications for Korean TV drama producers and writers are enormous. As Korean TV dramas continue to increase in popularity, it would be wonderful for the U.S. fans to be able to interact more with the actors and actresses. (press conferences, academic symposiums, concerts, conventions, etc)."

That really is an amazing point to ponder over and it would be fascinating to see what Korean dramas would be like if/when they are targeted towards the non-Korean audience.

He also commented about the position of Korean dramas in the US market:

"When compared to Chinese and Japanese TV programming, I believe Korean TV dramas are by far the most popular among mainstream Americans. Even in the Chinese-American community, Chinese-language TV stations will air Korean TV dramas dubbed in Mandarin or Cantonese. Korean TV dramas are perceived as higher quality and more entertaining than Chinese TV programming and definitely more accessible than Japanese TV programming."

Yeah I guess he's biased since he's the president of YAE which distributes Korean dramas, but in the interview he did mention several weaknesses of k-dramas such as "Chance meetings", slow pacing, too many 'flashback scenes' etc.

The entire interview is pretty interesting but somewhat lengthy. It's over at the soompi news thread if you have some time to kill Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

groink wrote:
So YES, you are correct in that I'm insinuating that Hallyu fans are in fact mindless drones who follow everything Korean. THAT'S the entire foundation of the Hallyu!
--- groink


This is a little too much of a comment from groink. It's so biased. Well whatever you say that's your opinion.

I would say Korean or other country's wave, well comes in waves. One season they're popular = crests and another season they die down = troughs which all depends on the show.

I still watch a mixture of Korean, Jdramas and Chinese dramas to this day. I think there's still many who do not know anything, but American shows. So sad for them for being brainwashed and mind melt by American shows. If you talk about cliche, American Reality Shows got tiring. And all hip hop, alternative (well used to be good) songs, but all now sound the same to me.

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