Why Some Fansubs Didnt Allow Upload To Streaming Sites?

just my curiosity..

i didnt do this but some fansub didnt permit upload to Youtube, Veoh, DailyMotion, CrunchyRoll etc..

sorry if someone already ask this but just my curiosity because I still found some of their works there..

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Please visit With S2's fansubwiki page and read their announcement about this very topic. (It's above the list of subbed dramas.) At the end of this announcement there is a link to Dramabeans's blog which explains the issue in even greater detail.

Wish more people would honor/respect the fansubbers wishes...

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

OOPS! It's above the list of subbing IN PROGRESS! (Not the list of subbed dramas.)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Simple:

1) Sharing means partaking without profit. Those streaming sites make money off of things done for fun. Of course those acting like a fansub is the equivalent of holding copyrights over the dramas they subtitled are just fooling themselves, but if you respect the entire sharing community, it goes without saying. Download all you want, share, but Pandora, MnCast, Youtube and the like are just leeches. Of course short clips shouldn't be a problem.
2) Hardsubbed video (which is what softsubbed material becomes when it's uploaded on streaming sites) instantly becomes copyright infringement. And you know how much of a rat's behind DVD/Tv companies care about the fansub mentality et all. It just attracts trouble like honey with bees.
3) Again, that's a sign the one uploading couldn't care less about the effort needed to make those damn 40kb text files.

And anyway... quality on those sites is crap. The Korean ones maybe, but Crunchyroll? It's like going back to the dialup days. "High Quality" being a 130 meg FLV file with screwed up compression.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

thnx for the explaination..
i didnt use Veoh or CrunchyRoll or whateva bcause my streaming sucks, my direct download too..
prefer torrent, although the speed is 1KB/s lol..

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i agree with everyone above.
its true the quality isnt the best as well.
some take credit that they subbed it, so, id be mad D:<

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i'm a fansubber but i am not against the growing popularity of asian dramas and movies. i buy licensed works as often as i can (well, the ones i like anyway). the anime fansub community did not die off when anime became mainstream, but it did become a lot harder to do it. there were more things to be careful of, watching to see if the series you are working on gets licensed, worrying about cease and desist letters even for shows that actually haven't been licensed but are only "in discussion" of being licensed, shows being licensed before they are even aired, etc, etc.

(the only thing i really fear about licensing of dramas is if they start english dubbing them....oh god...the horror...i pray daily that they never dub licensed dramas)

streaming sites like youtube also get monitored by foreign tv and movie production companies in efforts to keep their copyrighted materials from being streamed. i've seen many fansub clips being removed from youtube because of copyright issues.

the more frequented streaming sites get, it will start bringing the eye of the people who own the works we sub upon us. and we want as little of that as possible. we are happy to stop subbing if something gets licensed, but we don't want some joe schmoe putting us into the line of fire.

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i have another point of view on this subject. i think all of these sites, streaming, downloading and most
important subbing have their place. as a non asian who now enjoys kdrama, i have used all of them..
the hardcopied ones in the beginning and now that i have learned to do so i use the soft subs.
I watch and if i like something then i buy it to rewatch. these dvds are not cheap and no one would spend this amount of money on something they had not seen. Most tv programs released on dvd are purchased because the consumer has already seen them and liked them so much they're willing to buy them. if not for internet sites how would the majority of people see these dramas. i understand the concerns about copyright, however the world is a huge market and all these sites are helping to expand the customer base for the companies who sell the dvds.....instead of policing, they should pay u for advertising......lol

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

sorry, forgot the most import thing . thank you subbers for all the hours of enjoyment u have given me and for introducing me to a new and facinating world.

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

yes, lots of people get introduced to dramas thru streaming. but i'd say a majority of those people would have found out about dramas and started downloading and watching them even without streaming sites.

would we like more people to watch what we sub? sure. do we want to advertise our illegal activities in the faces of the people who own what we work on in order to get more viewers? NO WAY.

from the standpoint of a fansubber, the cons of streaming sites far far far far far far outweigh the pros. and while we appreciate that people like streaming sites, call me selfish, but i think what fansubbers do is way more important that what people who upload our hard work to streaming sites against our wishes do.

i think the best form of "payment" that a fansubber can get for spending lots of their time and effort subbing is for the people who watch their shows to actually spend a little time and effort downloading these shows. lots of our effort for just a little bit of yours, ya know? i think its a very very small and reasonable price that watchers should pay to benefit from what we do.

EDIT: Licensing is not killing fansubbing. its stopping the digital distribution of the licensed titles. so people have to rent or buy licensed shows... money? spend? what? omg! the horror! its the end of the world!

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

In my case I have to say its a toss up a somewhat hard one at. I do understand the fansubbers policy and agree with it, yet I would not be introduced or learnt about Asian dramas, culture, sites and become a big Asian drama addict if it wasn't for those streaming sites. Those streaming sites allow me to appreciate Asian dramas and has introduced me to a whole new world of entertainment. I see their purpose and usefulness.

However, we do have to be considerate of the fansubbers request of not uploading and appreciate the large amount of work they do in bringing us these shows for our own "private" enjoyment for free.

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0