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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: self learn japanese?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

hey i'm wondering if anyone know any books or something similar that i can buy or download(only legally) or maybe some sites that could even work? i dont got access to any japanese learning lessons near me so...

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: self learn Japanese?   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

http://www.timwerx.net/home/index.htm . This is a really good site that has a lot of grammar rules. If you are looking for books, I think the Genki I and II are good books. You can check Amazon.com for that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I would recommend studying hiragana and katakana like crazy then buying a level 4 JLPT study guide/book
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:21 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

emerica1123 wrote:
I would recommend studying hiragana and katakana like crazy then buying a level 4 JLPT study guide/book


okey, may I ask why hira and kata? what is JLPT?

sandy+clef wrote:
http://www.timwerx.net/home/index.htm . This is a really good site that has a lot of grammar rules. If you are looking for books, I think the Genki I and II are good books. You can check Amazon.com for that.


wow. thank you. will have to check out the books, hopefully not too expensive =)
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

nek wrote:


okey, may I ask why hira and kata? what is JLPT?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Language_Proficiency_Test Big Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Theres also the Erin Ga Chosen series. Its basically a book with a DVD about a girl named Erin whos an exchange student from England. Shes really half Japanese and an idol but thats besides the point. Anyways the DVD is setup like a japanese drama and goes through her daily life at her new school while covering important key points. Currently there are three volumes available with more to come. Its good for self learners and beginners because you get to hear it which i think is most important. If theres a Japanese bookstore near you, then they should have it. If not you might be able to order it through Kinokuniya....
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

does anyone know any software/chip for nintendo ds wher i can learn japanese (in romaji).. i only found JE EJ dictionary but its in kanji.. Sad thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

rairai wrote:
does anyone know any software/chip for nintendo ds wher i can learn japanese (in romaji).. i only found JE EJ dictionary but its in kanji.. Sad thanks!



Goto www.alc.co.jp and use their online translator (free), you can type in english words to find the japanese katakana equivalent. If theres kanji, it will show the reading...
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I've been using audio CDs to learn (the Pimsleur Japanese series). My first goal is comprehension of spoken Japanese, so I favor things like CDs and DVDs rather than books alone. Next year, I will probably pick up some grammar books. I don't plan to attempt learning written Japanese until later on in my studies. From what I hear, that's a-whole-nother can of worms. XD The one drawback to audio CDs is that they can get pretty expensive. You could always try picking up second-hand materials on Amazon or eBay. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I am learning japanese, here are some good sites I have found:
The dirty guide to japanese http://nihonbunka.uaa.alaska.edu/language/dirtyguide.html
Tae-Kims guide to japanese grammar http://www.guidetojapanese.org/

You should learn hiragana and katakana first then basic grammar.
You can then learn new words with the hiragana and katakana you have learned priviously and putting them to use
in whatever grammatic sense you wish.

Learn by listening to japanese all the time: dramas, j-tv, podcast, radio, mp3s, site like http://www.jpopasia.com/
It's a fun way of learning Smile It's as close as some will ever get to japan (myself included)

The Genki books, I have heard, are very good. If possible, get them.

I would rather be learning japanese right now, but I have all these **** exams...
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i guess i can say im learning japanese,
i understand a lot now and i can sometimes watch shows without the subtitles.
i guess its cuz i watched so many japanese shows that i got used to the language. i got those japan my love mp3s and the pdf just so i would learn more.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Japanesepod101.com <---- This is a free podcast, just subscribe. It's informative on alot of stuff and uses different dialects, so that you can get use or know what dialect they are speaking.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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okey, may I ask why hira and kata?

You'll need kana, both hiragana and katakana (and when you have them down, easy kanji) if you want to become somewhat literate in Japanese.
indyana said she learns solely by audio sources, which also is a way, but IMO learning Japanese script from the beginning has a number of advantages - like the time you have to study it, being able to learn through any kind of written media, being able to understand the way words are linked.

It sounds like you are a beginner, and of course, there aren't that many different ways to get started. One has to learn core vocabulary, easy grammar and maybe the basics of the script, preferrably in an enjoyable way. (I did that by watching dorama ;) )


http://ideogramme.ca/japan/ hasn't been updated for almost two years, but there are some interesting articles
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/index.html are a good resource for many languages
I also use Tae Kim's guide a lot, too.
And it would be useful to google for keywords like "free kana learning game/site" or similar. I know I once had a free PC game to learn kana ... (I didn't learn them through it, though. I just drilled myself with writing exercises. Writing makes it a lot easier to memorize kanji, too)

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

teeheeman wrote:
I am learning japanese, here are some good sites I have found:
The dirty guide to japanese http://nihonbunka.uaa.alaska.edu/language/dirtyguide.html
Tae-Kims guide to japanese grammar http://www.guidetojapanese.org/

You should learn hiragana and katakana first then basic grammar.
You can then learn new words with the hiragana and katakana you have learned priviously and putting them to use
in whatever grammatic sense you wish.

Learn by listening to japanese all the time: dramas, j-tv, podcast, radio, mp3s, site like http://www.jpopasia.com/
It's a fun way of learning Smile It's as close as some will ever get to japan (myself included)

The Genki books, I have heard, are very good. If possible, get them.

I would rather be learning japanese right now, but I have all these **** exams...


Thank you Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

In my case, I use the books called Minna no Nihongo.

They are translated in a looooot of languages and pretty easy to find also.
Each lesson is divided in 4 parts:
- Vocabulary
- Grammar
- Exercices
- And something "useful", they call that part "informations"

I think it's well done.
The only reproach I could do is that there are no corrections for the exercices, so you need to be very careful.
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