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nikochanr3 Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Total posts: 650 Location: NY Gender: Male |
 Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Karate-ka wrote: | | saby wrote: | do they really have to copy evrything ??????!! gosh they have no imagination or what
I really hate how they make big money thanks to the movies that arent even theirs
I bet manypeople who are going to watch DEATH NOTE (american version) wont even know that its a japanese movie ...... |
That wil happen only if they dotn look it up but unfortunatly most people dotn. |
yes, but that happens either way. the remake, good or bad, does stimulate some interest in the original which would not normally be there. its not like death note the original would get mass released here if the remake was not done.
everything gets remade, redone. either in the home country or abroad. ive learned to try my best to educate people about the originals, and let people know when they are abysmal.
ill give you an example, SHALL WE DANCE. Movie BOMBED. Sucked badly. YET, it was the first time a good dvd copy of the original was released in the US, and it sold well.
So the remake, awful idea, awful execution, but it let a few more people see the original, so ill live even though it gave me serious head pain._________________ Please visit my homepage!  Nikos World
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biniBningPunkistaLocation: inside toma's closet Age: 1 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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that is the sad reality of movie making this days... nothing is REALLY original as it seems anymore.
why? people get their ideas from someone else's idea and the internet also a spawn of it.
it would be really surprising if all ideas came from one head.
sometimes its funny when you are into old movies like the 60's or 70's back then movies weren't that popular since not everyone can afford it.
but then out of no where in this time you would suddenly see a concept from that same old movie... its a cycle. and it would be rather hard to break.
back to the main topic, death note movie.
i saw the original version being advertised as a trailer in American Theaters which was really funny... because i have no idea why they decided to do it. then upon reading this thread, the realization just kicked in. they had to advertise the original one because they are going to have a remake. does it sound absurd? for me it is... kind of.
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nikochanr3Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Total posts: 650 Location: NY Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| biniBningPunkista wrote: | that is the sad reality of movie making this days... nothing is REALLY original as it seems anymore.
why? people get their ideas from someone else's idea and the internet also a spawn of it.
it would be really surprising if all ideas came from one head.
sometimes its funny when you are into old movies like the 60's or 70's back then movies weren't that popular since not everyone can afford it.
but then out of no where in this time you would suddenly see a concept from that same old movie... its a cycle. and it would be rather hard to break.
back to the main topic, death note movie.
i saw the original version being advertised as a trailer in American Theaters which was really funny... because i have no idea why they decided to do it. then upon reading this thread, the realization just kicked in. they had to advertise the original one because they are going to have a remake. does it sound absurd? for me it is... kind of.
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you are wrong on the reason for showing the original. Viz released the original on DVD and is showing it around the country to get some press. It's very liminted. NY has it as part of the annual asian film festival.
Warner Bros owns the right to the American release. I work here, we don't ahve any deal with Viz in place, and the movie is so far off (no director, no cast, no script) that they wouldn't do anything now.
And does everyone realize EVERYTHING gets remade, updated, modernized all over the world? its not just asian movies in america, its everything everywhere. we live in the time of the remake._________________ Please visit my homepage! Nikos World
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ChrissweJoined: 15 Nov 2006 Total posts: 65 Location: Sweden Age: 24 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I trule believe that the remake will be better than the original. When it comes to CGI and special effects japan are not even close to Hollywood. Death Note really suffered from bad CGI I think, but I still liked the movie.
Stop being such fanbois and cry about how they copy good movies. Arent you glad other people can enjoy the same story? Maybe not all americans like asian films, let them make their remake and if you dont like it, dont watch it.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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^I totally agree.
| First Class Wota wrote: | | I'd seriously like to know what was "wrong" with the Deathnote Live Action that some people are saying wasn't good. It sounds like you are just saying **** for no reason. I would really like to know what you didn't like about it because I found it very entertaining and I know it got great reviews. I don't see where you have room to say it wasn't good. |
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nikochanr3Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Total posts: 650 Location: NY Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| biniBningPunkista wrote: | | nikochanr3 wrote: |
you are wrong on the reason for showing the original. Viz released the original on DVD and is showing it around the country to get some press. It's very liminted. NY has it as part of the annual asian film festival.
Warner Bros owns the right to the American release. I work here, we don't ahve any deal with Viz in place, and the movie is so far off (no director, no cast, no script) that they wouldn't do anything now.
And does everyone realize EVERYTHING gets remade, updated, modernized all over the world? its not just asian movies in america, its everything everywhere. we live in the time of the remake. |
eh? now im getting pretty confused here...  what does warner bro. got to do with the release of Death Note movie? i thought Vertigo was the one who's going to remake "Death Note" for U.S? are they working with W.B. then? and when you say you work here, does that mean you work with WB or in US specifically?
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if i'm wrong correct me and i super duper aploligize, but vertigo studios makes and release movies via Warner. It's not a separate studio. it's more a relationship like newline (bad example).
my point was just two things, one - its WAY too early to worry about promoting the project, and 2 - the american rights to a script/film and the viz japanese rights are separate.
note:  i agree on the crappy remakes and they hurt me too, but i think its looked at almsot like its ruining the original, or its JUST americans remaking foreign things, and both things are 100% not true. everyone has taken original material, remade it, and ground up everything that made it cool and original.
btw, do you all LOVE the original MOVIE (not manga) to the point you dont want a remake? i LOVE the manga (up till it goes off the rails in volume 7) but the movies, they were good but certainly not fantastic._________________ Please visit my homepage! Nikos World
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nikochanr3Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Total posts: 650 Location: NY Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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wait until the HK version of the DVD comes out (there is one scheduled) then it will be all over. i know we cant post movies here, but if i see it, we can psot we KNOW where it is and PM each other, thats what i will do._________________ Please visit my homepage! Nikos World
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Ne... I really think the remake won't be a bad idea. I mean, I'd love to have Matsuyama Kenichi in it!!!!!! I know that's a mad idea. But well... after givin it some thought, why not?
Cause it's such a great story, I think a remake can spread it to more people. More people can enjoy it!
As they say, remakes never beat the real thing. The people who are wiling to make the remake know it as well, they'll try their best to do justice to the original. It's not a crime, it's just enjoying the story more...
hahahhaha..... Gosh... I think i'll check it out. Even if there ain't no L or Kira (Matsu and Fujiwara)....... T.T......
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Anytime anything gets adapted or remade, folks come out and say that the country doing the remaking has no originality and should just stick to their own forms of media or entertainment. This is really just silly.
Japan didn't create animation or comic books and certainly didn't create movies or CGI. So aren't japanese creators just as guilty of ripping off another's works? Heck, this is a drama forum and yet japanese ( as well as other countries ) adapt many of the shows of late from anime, manga or books. It's not such a big deal. Some are good adaptations, some not so much.
The fact is creators and artists are influenced by all sorts of outside sources. Creativity is not spawned in a vacuum. It's happened before and it'll happen again. No need to get into this debate each and every time.
Personally, I think japanese hip-hop and j-rock are for the most part, terrible. But I don't listen to it. It's just that simple.
If you're not interested in ________ ( insert name of currently remade or adapted media here ), just don't watch it.
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Néa VanilleJoined: 26 Mar 2005 Total posts: 64 Location: Seoul, South Korea (whooooza!) Gender: Female |
| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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American The Ring > Japanese The Ring in my (unpopular) opinion (it just scared me a lot more. I guess I like less subtle horror. The special effects were also a lot better, and the American version added a lot of scares the original didn't have).
Therefore, the remake of DN may very well be a good idea. I thought the DN movies were pretty bad myself, especially compared to the brilliant anime. The music, direction, character portrayal etc. was just so flawless in the anime the live version seemed bloodless - and I thought the main character was way too ugly to be playing Ligh!
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anyways i'm still probably gonna watch the remake even though theres i high chance its gonna be crap.
