Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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Per your portrial, I think LDC's love for YR is brotherly & only wants to guard her from dangers
Yeah, I think there's a strong element of that in their relationship. But, that and other elements develop through the years, perhaps moreso than any other romantic relationship thus far in the story.
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When they first meet, LDC sees YR as a kind of a spoiled, but pretty girl. His feelings develop for her offscreen (i.e. after a time jump); she grows up a bit, and he can't deny his fondness for her. The loneliness from his family's enstrangement also increases his feelings for her.
The nice dynamic about their relationship is that both characters develop through the years. On one hand, yes, he's an "oppa" to her, but she also challenges him and his motivations. When they meet again after another 2 years, it's really about her now. He misses her. He wishes he could see her again. He actually has no idea that she is in such a bad state until he visits her.
Another thing worth mentioning is that this drama isn't particularly romantic. Most of the romances seem failed before they start. Most of the leads ignore their private lives for the sake of their careers, often doing things that they're not proud of, and often at each other. Power games dominate the story; love seems both an inadequate distraction and an elusive dream to these people.
The pacing and the overall quality of the writing in the show's picked up through episode 23-26.
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By episode 26, Lee Dong Chul has accrued enough power to make his move on Shin Tae Hwan. The dominoes are starting to drop. Also, everybody now are now gaining real power and influence. East of Eden has moved to 1987, the year when the military dictatorship finally falls and before the Seoul Olympics. Most of East of Eden thus far has gone from 1981-87, a dark era that goes well with all of the crime bravado and political corruption. Now all of these players are coming out of that period's darkness to reinvent themselves as legitimate businessmen, such as Lee Dong Chul. Unlike her father, Min Hye Rin will inherit the newspaper under a democracy, and I'm thinking she will represent the new South Korea.
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
This must be the year for pathetic female characters. I've caught up to episode 18 and could't believe that the female protagonists are so pathetic!! First, JH, must be the no.1 masochist in the world. Unbelievable that she can actually lie down beside the man who raped her every night! She must love nightmares to do that and secondly, GR, pathetically begging the gutless DC for his love. Have some self respect, woman! Half the world population are men. Even if she blindly reaches out she would probably get a better man than DC.
I hope they don't turn HR into another pathetic female because I am going to give up watching the show then.
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
preview in episode 28
and i'm very happy finally Min Hye-rin and Lee dong-chul will meet again(well i hope that this is not just an odd meeting like before)i really hope that this is the beggining for their loveline
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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and i'm very happy finally Min Hye-rin and Lee dong-chul will meet again(well i hope that this is not just an odd meeting like before)i really hope that this is the beggining for their loveline
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It looks like around Episode 28, we're going to get another 2 or 3 year time jump (this time into the 90s.)
Also, it looks like Grace and Mike will finally marry properly, and that Lee Dong Chul and Grace finally have closure. The departure seems bittersweet, but still amicable.
Finally, it also looks like Lee Dong Chul has finally become a rich and independent businessman in his own right. And I mean, from the previews, it looks like he's driving an Italian sports car, so he's officially FILTHY RICH!! As a result, he's now finally ascended into the same social class whereby the Lee Dong Chul and Min Hye Rin can finally start their relationship.
Or to put it another way, Episode 28 effectively begins East of Eden.
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First, JH, must be the no.1 masochist in the world.
Her character gets much better. She's arguably the most complex character in the show, because she's allowed to evolve. She lost a lot; but she gained a lot too. Shin Tae Hwan slowly recognizes that she in fact surpasses his son in cunning and courage. He actually prizes her more than his son as an asset to his power, yet at the same time, her bond and regard with the Lee brothers still run deep. She kind of becomes the 2nd Janice of the story. Han Ji Hye's performance after the time jump is marvelous too. Her presence has grown much more complex from playing this role, and you can feel the weight of her character's experience in her performance.
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I hope they don't turn HR into another pathetic female because I am going to give up watching the show then.
I think the key problem with the Min Hye Rin character is that she's really meant for the 2nd half of East of Eden. Her storyline, apart from her on-and-off again friendship/relationship with Lee Dong Wook, seems independent from the main story, and so it's been hard to consistently care about it.
That said, the circumstances of her storyline also has been good setup for Min Hye Rin in that 2nd half of the story. She becomes legitimately powerful as well as tied to the political and social machinations that give her power. She is representative of her nation's aspirations and struggle to move forward. The bricks have been lain together; hopefully that patience is rewarded.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I've already seen a full-mini-series-length portion of EoE (20 episodes) and it doesn't look like the story's going anywhere. There are parts that I find intriguing, and others that bore me to tears. And Young-Chul still annoys me.
I've just deleted ep21 from my laptop and am probably going to drop this series completely - life's too short to watch dramas that barely interest me, and only because of the eye candy. Anyone willing to convince me otherwise?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
fizzlex3mh, I understand your frustration, me too. But keep watching, It'll get better toward the later half. To me, Ep. 28 is the best so far, because of the closure of DC & YR's relationship and the starting of DC & HR. Hope you won't drop this drama, I think it's one of the best for years.
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: Hello My Dear Kim Post Rating: 0
kim_calvz wrote:
preview in episode 28
and i'm very happy finally Min Hye-rin and Lee dong-chul will meet again(well i hope that this is not just an odd meeting like before)i really hope that this is the beggining for their loveline
Wow! finally our beloved ones start Rock N'Roll.
Hey! Kim, pls. catch up some cute pix; of them(Song & DH), Pls.....
Oh! I really cannot wait to see it.
Warm Rgds,
Nyarnyar
p.s- Thans also to Belleza for portrial of ep.28 & review..
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
NyarNyar
it is actually the wedding of Mike and Grace..Lee Dong-chul went to her for him to say goodbye / congralulate/ closure......Grace said that "i will try to be happy".....precisely...i think Lee Dong-chul knew that Mike is a nice man..That is why Dong-chul gave up on Grace.....and to think that Dong-chul knew that his love for Grace is forbidden...(oh well....I forgot the exact scene..because i am not into their love lines....all I know is when I’m watching their ending...the first word that came to my mind ......."FINALLY" ...(while clapping my hands)>...sounds childish ah?
to 1987 the story jumped to 1993
Min Hye rin went to Washington DC because of her ill sister (Hye-rung) she went there to bring back her sister to Korea...and she is now a reporter..
Dong-chul is also in Washington...He deals with American arms dealer....Hyer-rin saw Dong-chul and his transaction with arms dealer....and as a reporter Hyer-rin thought that it is a big scope for her newspaper (Han-seh)....she went to Dong-chul and sat on the chair....and yes!!!they knew each other...Hye-rin said "Lee DOng-chul i think your hobby is to deliver bags"( i chuckled when i heard that..)Lee Dong-chul replied "Reporter Min Hye-rin"(actually they met a few times...at the presidential conference)....Min Hye-rin talked about Lee Dong-chul how he joined the youth organization which is supported by Mr. g**k.......Dong-chul said that if she was there to have an interview with him...his answer is "no comment"....but Min Hye-rin made a deal with Dong-chul...for the exchange of her silence....Dong-chul asked her if it that was a threat?.... Hye-rin replied "Yes that was a threat"(with a smile)...their conversation cut off when Janice came...Hye-rin said "i am leaving but i'll take your answer as a yes".....she left .. And .Dong-chul remained speech less....
Reminiscing her broke up with Lee Dong-wook..... Min Hye-rin received a call from Baek(her fiancé)..and Hye-rin became exasperated and she hang up Baek while still talking to her....after a few seconds the phone rang again...and Hye-rin thought it was Baek again so she was kinda inritated......(but it was Lee Dong-chul.)..Dong-chul paused for a while because of the tone of her voice...but then he deals with Min Hye-rin’s..Favor..
they went to the hospital and she introduced her sister to him......Lee Dong-chul saw the other side of Hye-rin...he glanced to her....(i think Dong-chul reaction is" this is a private matters and I am not a inquisitive person") ...
Janice and Dong-chul was invited to Andy’s party (American guy) they talked about some data system, ..then Hye-rin came and Andy welcomed her and said that “You lighten up my party”…(Hye-rin really know how to flirt because of her voice while talking to Andy).then Dong-chul and Janice was bothered when Hye-rin came. Hye-rin explained her self that she was invited by Andy….and she said to him , Dong-chul should not worry about the exchanging of the bags she will pretend that she saw it by chance, if that doesn’t bring harm to their country andthey made a deal .Janice asked what is dong-chul’s opinion about what she(Hye-rin)said. And Dong-chul smiled and said that its hard for him to believe since the favor asked were easy. Hye-rin replied and said “what must I do for you to believe me”…Dong-chul smiled to her….when they were alone ,she told that she is the reason why her sister is suffering (because of Baek)….she wants to make sure that her sister can go back to Korea without a problem..that is why she needs Lee dong-chul to be their guardian…Dong-chul asked who made it difficult for her to depart. Hye-rin said someone who is close to her (I think it was Baek)…Dong-chul seemed to be interested…..and he added that there were a desperate reason…Hye-rin asked his help because it might be expose and it will be disgraceful with Hye-rin’s family…she smiled and said she shouldn’t say that easily ,talking to him as if they were closed friends. Don-chul was utterly quiet . Hye-rin asked “Lee Dong-chul are you really like this?...a person who has the power to gain people’s trust “(oohhhhh that line makes me really giddy)Dong-chul is speechless but he stare to Hye-rin….At the airplane Dong-chul can’t help it…he keep on starring to Hye-rin.
here are sonme screensnaps for you Nyar Nyar...
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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to 1987 the story jumped to 1993
Yeah, Episode 28 is almost like a restart of East of Eden. There's been time jumps before, but this one effectively changes the makeup of the story.
Up through episode 27, East of Eden's been mostly a thriller-style show with an emphasis on tortured family dramatics.
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However, now most of the family angst has been resolved (for example, the two moms have both become successful business owners) and most of the gangster business seems to be behind Lee Dong Chul. Above all, it seems that both brothers are well in their successful efforts to achieve personal ambitions, while Shin Tae Hwan seems greatly dminishied (as well as older.)
Meaning . . . most of the fighting, intrigue, and overwrought drama has already been cleaned out. Starting with Episode 28, you can see that EofE's has shifted into romance. The storyline quickly moves to Lee Dong Chul and Min Hye Rin. They not only have a lot of face time together (even getting to properly know each other's names), but their storyline drives the episode. From the previews, it looks like the storyline is continuing to accelerate in the pace of episodes 25-27, and that the terrible revelation will soon come out.
In other words, if you caught, say, the first 7-8 episodes of East of Eden, you can skip to Episode 28 because now the real story is being told.
Also, although the story is "1993", effectively the drama has moved into the present time. There was one slipup where somebody mentions "our IT company." Heh.
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life's too short to watch dramas that barely interest me, and only because of the eye candy. Anyone willing to convince me otherwise?
I think for me, the show's become a daily drama with gangsters. The story is sloppy and a little lazy (there's been some complaints and on-the-set rumors about the show's writing), but it still does a good job developing the characters through the march of time as well as showing how South Korea has evolved as well. Above all, you get the sense from the director that he's kinda scared that you'll switch the channel, so he'll just throw stuff together. Like all daily dramas, I'm kinda grown fond of these people, even Shin Tae Hwan, and the whole Lee family. I'll be kinda sad when this show ends.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: To my Dear Kim Post Rating: 0
kim_calvz wrote:
NyarNyar
it is actually the wedding of Mike and Grace..Lee Dong-chul went to her for him to say goodbye / congralulate/ closure......Grace said that "i will try to be happy".....precisely...i think Lee Dong-chul knew that Mike is a nice man..That is why Dong-chul gave up on Grace.....and to think that Dong-chul knew that his love for Grace is forbidden...(oh well....I forgot the exact scene..because i am not into their love lines....all I know is when I’m watching their ending...the first word that came to my mind ......."FINALLY" ...(while clapping my hands)>...sounds childish ah?
to 1987 the story jumped to 1993
Min Hye rin went to Washington DC because of her ill sister (Hye-rung) she went there to bring back her sister to Korea...and she is now a reporter..
Dong-chul is also in Washington...He deals with American arms dealer....Hyer-rin saw Dong-chul and his transaction with arms dealer....and as a reporter Hyer-rin thought that it is a big scope for her newspaper (Han-seh)....she went to Dong-chul and sat on the chair....and yes!!!they knew each other...Hye-rin said "Lee DOng-chul i think your hobby is to deliver bags"( i chuckled when i heard that..)Lee Dong-chul replied "Reporter Min Hye-rin"(actually they met a few times...at the presidential conference)....Min Hye-rin talked about Lee Dong-chul how he joined the youth organization which is supported by Mr. g**k.......Dong-chul said that if she was there to have an interview with him...his answer is "no comment"....but Min Hye-rin made a deal with Dong-chul...for the exchange of her silence....Dong-chul asked her if it that was a threat?.... Hye-rin replied "Yes that was a threat"(with a smile)...their conversation cut off when Janice came...Hye-rin said "i am leaving but i'll take your answer as a yes".....she left .. And .Dong-chul remained speech less....
Reminiscing her broke up with Lee Dong-wook..... Min Hye-rin received a call from Baek(her fiancé)..and Hye-rin became exasperated and she hang up Baek while still talking to her....after a few seconds the phone rang again...and Hye-rin thought it was Baek again so she was kinda inritated......(but it was Lee Dong-chul.)..Dong-chul paused for a while because of the tone of her voice...but then he deals with Min Hye-rin’s..Favor..
they went to the hospital and she introduced her sister to him......Lee Dong-chul saw the other side of Hye-rin...he glanced to her....(i think Dong-chul reaction is" this is a private matters and I am not a inquisitive person") ...
Janice and Dong-chul was invited to Andy’s party (American guy) they talked about some data system, ..then Hye-rin came and Andy welcomed her and said that “You lighten up my party”…(Hye-rin really know how to flirt because of her voice while talking to Andy).then Dong-chul and Janice was bothered when Hye-rin came. Hye-rin explained her self that she was invited by Andy….and she said to him , Dong-chul should not worry about the exchanging of the bags she will pretend that she saw it by chance, if that doesn’t bring harm to their country andthey made a deal .Janice asked what is dong-chul’s opinion about what she(Hye-rin)said. And Dong-chul smiled and said that its hard for him to believe since the favor asked were easy. Hye-rin replied and said “what must I do for you to believe me”…Dong-chul smiled to her….when they were alone ,she told that she is the reason why her sister is suffering (because of Baek)….she wants to make sure that her sister can go back to Korea without a problem..that is why she needs Lee dong-chul to be their guardian…Dong-chul asked who made it difficult for her to depart. Hye-rin said someone who is close to her (I think it was Baek)…Dong-chul seemed to be interested…..and he added that there were a desperate reason…Hye-rin asked his help because it might be expose and it will be disgraceful with Hye-rin’s family…she smiled and said she shouldn’t say that easily ,talking to him as if they were closed friends. Don-chul was utterly quiet . Hye-rin asked “Lee Dong-chul are you really like this?...a person who has the power to gain people’s trust “(oohhhhh that line makes me really giddy)Dong-chul is speechless but he stare to Hye-rin….At the airplane Dong-chul can’t help it…he keep on starring to Hye-rin.
here are sonme screensnaps for you Nyar Nyar...
NyarNyar
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Dear Kim,
Me too! I’m v happy & cannot help to smile, even laugh out while I’m reading your good portrial of Song & DH.
Wow! I’m now too curious to know what will happen btwn them in next ep;. But I’m sure(& I wish) they will fall with each other at the same time Dong Chul tries to help Hye rim(her family problem), hee hee.
Again, kumbunwa for your lovely pix; see how they look each other, I can see the loving song in their eyes.(To admit the truth, I like Song’ eye whenever he express v lively the way how he feel).
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Thanks for sharing the pics kim_calvz!
She's so pretty!! I love the chemistry between Dong-Chul & Hye-Rin Hope to see more of them together! It's kinda bad, but I skipped directly to episode 28 after reading this thread...
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