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belleza Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
 Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Nyar Nyar --
The show just started (episode 6 just finished today), and this show will run 50 episodes (maybe more if MBC smells a runaway hit?) Given how K-dramas work, it'll probably either have SSH/LDH ending up together, or SSH will die tragically.
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Nyar NyarJoined: 04 Sep 2006 Total posts: 57 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: East of Eden ending Post Rating: 0 |
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Dear Belleza,
Thanks much for your kind attetnion & quick reply.
As it's just started & should we wait/patient till 50, that's Okey. I can wait & love to see SSH & LDH.
But I wish they will end up together. pls. don't let SSH die(Huh! another Autumn tales).
Warm rgds,
Nyarnyar
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Watching Episode 5+6 right now. At the end of Episode 5, the main cast finally arrives.
I have to be honest. I was completely wrong about East of Eden. Dude, put up with the first 3 episodes. Episode 4 is when East of Eden starts to really have fun.
Starting with episode 4, this show suddenly goes from inconsistent and kinda dull to OMFG STUNNING -- this is like the realistic, super-super gut wrenching version of All In meets Green Rose. Or in other words, the over-the-top, tragic gangsta histrionics of Green Rose, the power games and intrigue of money of All, with some of the actorly naturalism of Le Dolce Vita (some of the best acting here is between the gangs. Very gritty, intense, and just very gritty. The casting was especially well done here,)
Oh and Kim Bum is going to win a MBC award for his performance. I'm just stunned how good he is here. It's like I'm watching the second coming of Jo In Sung, pretty yet so deeply volatile and a little crazy here. I can't believe he's only 19 years old, nothing he's done before prepares you for the wall-to-wall intensity he's doing as the teenage Lee Dong Chul. There's fear, there's anguish, there's balls-out hatred, but above all, you're constantly riveted to Lee Dong Chul here.
If the story can maintain this momentum, this show could be huge,
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kobe23Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Total posts: 741 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 29 Gender: Male |
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | | If this run of improvement continues, we might well see it hit the 30's pretty soon which is not good news for Tazza in which I'm really looking forward to. |
See, the thing that really hurts the new Tazza is that -- from the looks of it -- East of Eden may already have covered some of the similar territory. Basically, episode 4-6 kinda play like Lee Dong Chul's KERAZY adventures, and one of them covers gangsters and underground casinos. BTW, it should be said that EofE plays it much, much more violently than All In; you truly get the sense that these people will literally stab each other in the back with an actual knife in order if it meant mo' money.
Episode 6 slows down a lot, but this is also the episode where the adult main characters show up (and yes Dennis O'Neil graces himself too.) Curiously, Lee Dae Hae's character hasn't shown up yet. I originally thought (haven't really paid attention to the wiki family tree) that she would play the train man's daughter, but I guess not.
I still believe SBS has programmed Tazza to be their sacrificial lamb. It vies for the same audience as EofE, and its overall action-oriented tone is not that different. I think East of Eden has a shot into 30s if they keep the story momentum a lot. MBC is big-time whoring this project, and the truth is, given their lackluster year, they need East of Eden to perform like a true blockbuster.
The true heavies The World That They Live In and Dr. Stop are probably both going to compete with East of Eden when EofE finishes about half of its run.
| Quote: | | SSH will get hit by a truck at the end. You heard it here first!! |
Joon-sah!! Joon-sah!!! WAAAAAAAAA!!!!! (actually I remember sobbing during the funeral bit, and then breaking into all-out laughter when he flew in the air like that.)
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kobe23Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Total posts: 741 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 29 Gender: Male |
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touretteJoined: 17 Jul 2007 Total posts: 30 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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OMG!!! I watched ep3 and am still without voice. i already knew it would be mediocre but i couldn't imagine it would have one of the most cheesy scene i ever saw in a kdrama!
the scene when Dong Chul tells Dong Wook about how their father died. the live recreation of the past, that dust&scratches filter added on the flashbacks... the way the brothers keep screaming at each other instead of speaking...
hopefully, that will be the last crappy episode of the drama, but, i am still astonished to see so weak directive choices from a veteran director in a production of that importance.
an other major flaw for me (so far) is that their is something lacking about the "bad guy". can't tell if it's the acting or just that he purposely act wicked but the character looks flat (no inner darkness ?). i don't really know and i will probably never look at that 3 episodes ever again.
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Oh I forgot to mention a while, but it's interesting that they have Han Ji Hye cast in East of Eden. When Summer Scent was airing, there was tension between Song Seung Heun and Han Ji Hye (who was, I think, making her debut.) Ji Hye had made some offhand comments (to the effect that she understood why Hye Kyo and Byung Hung fell in love during All In) in an interview, which in turn sparked persistent rumours that SSH and HJH were dating. This lack of discretion really, really angered SSH (friends with both LBH and SHK, and probably then dating Sung Yu Ri who is also close to SHK), and apparently the working atmosphere was tense between then two.
| Quote: | | I'm kinda sick of the typical Hallyu dramas which are essentially "melodramas about nothing". |
See, I'm probably the opposite, because I've been craving a good tearjerker lately. My favorite K-drama this year is Women in the Sun so far. I cried buckets, and I loved the acting and how the story bit off Hamlet in places. Also the cast is beautiful, and I think you'll like it.
I think for me, because I watch a lot of J-dramas, it kinda satiates my need for original and theme-based storylines. If you ever watch J-dramas, you get stuffed with strongly typed (i.e. is this a school drama, a medical drama, a mystery drama etc.) narratives where the themes are obliquely expressed in the episode titles. That type of stuff is popular with critics and boys, because each episode is about "something" (and therefore substantiates the watching of it), but the actual arrangement of the plot is also formulaic in its own right and it strongly covers up the tepid acting and "lead by the hand" approach toward character development. And sometimes it's tedious because it turns into an exercise in "detail gathering" where you're actually anticipating the thematic endpoints that in turn qualify the changing disposition of the characters. In other words, in J-drama, plot changes people. Whereas in K-drama, people change people.
| Quote: | | Dr Stop might be interesting too, I haven't heard much about it, but I think it has something to do with boxing? Not sure, but at least it's about something. Do you really think it'll be a heavyweight though? |
I think, on paper, it's still a medical drama. Because it's So Ji Sup's comeback show and that virtually ever medical drama has performed well, there should be pretty strong interest in it. But what's happened this year is that almost all of the "prestige shows" are being pit against each other. It hasn't been like this since 2004 maybe. Not everything can succeed. It's also weird to see SJS's best friend and SJS's most famous on-air costar competing with him onair.
| Quote: | | For me, Tazza is something I don't necessarily expect to succeed, but I just want it to do well. It looks like a well produced project with a good cast and interesting theme. What's not to like about it? |
Yeah Tazza may be really, really good. And part of it is my bias against Han Ye Seul; I don't think she can play a femme fatale or Madam sufficiently, with or without her ample cleavage. The movie is supposed to be much darker than the original comic, and so they can dial down the grifter and dolls vibe for the TV show. I'm glad the show is not coming out right now though, since I'm well behind on my list. 
The truth is, ALL of the current and to-be-aired shows (East of Eden, Beethoven Virus, Kingdom of the Wind, Painter in the Wind, Tazza), are must-see for me. That's 5 shows. That's a lot of "actor stares into space because the writers couldn't finish this week's script." Then late in the fall, you got "Autumn Tale? Autumn Hell!!!" programming with East of Eden, World That They Live In, and Dr. Stop.
| Quote: | | the live recreation of the past, that dust&scratches filter added on the flashbacks. |
Yeah, I thought it was a little cheesy. That's part of the director's style, consistent with his work in Le Dolce Vita and Ireland.
| Quote: | | i am still astonished to see so weak directive choices from a veteran director in a production of that importance. |
I actually liked that bit. Screaming is the only appropriate reaction between brothers. 
| Quote: | | an other major flaw for me (so far) is that their is something lacking about the "bad guy". can't tell if it's the acting or just that he purposely act wicked but the character looks flat (no inner darkness ? |
I agree with that, but thinking it over, I think that's also one thing I like about the show. To put it another way, Shin Hae Twang didn't really consider Lee Dong Chul or Lee Dong Chul's father as a true rival. Both guys are "problems" among many, many other "problems" that he encounters through in his job, and most of the time, he does evil for the bidding of even more evil men. He is effectively a mid-level manager among other mid-level managers climbing the ladder of karmic sin.
And in addition, although he has an often adverse relationship with the coal mining workers, he needs them just as they need him. It is an inherently symbiotic relationship, and that relationship is what keeps affecting/ruining Dong Chul's family. And at the same time, in episode 6, it's also clear that this exploitation onto the proletariat manifests in the evolution of the town itself through the decades. The Machine continuously grinds the people. Yet the people continue to multiply and survive as one people, and it looks like Dong Wook is to emerge as a working class hero, something to be.
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Nyar NyarJoined: 04 Sep 2006 Total posts: 57 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:22 am Post subject: Oh! Song wil be hit by a Truck(Again??) Post Rating: 0 |
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Dear Kobe23,
I'm really fell sad to know the end from you. SSH will be hit by a Truck(again?? like in Autumn Tales). Pls. tell MBC, donot make anymore tragedy like that(kill all our beloved characters). Will LDH die too, together with SSH??
I cannot help it & don't think I can endure to see for that kind of ending.
Anyway, maybe if it's there a lot of scenes between SSH & LDH, I'll enjoy them & not to watch the ending.
Warm rgds,
Nyarnyar
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kobe23Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Total posts: 741 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 29 Gender: Male |
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
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Nyar NyarJoined: 04 Sep 2006 Total posts: 57 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: Kobe23 & Bezella Post Rating: 0 |
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Hi Kobe23 & Bezella,
Even if it is a joke, I'm now happy & cheer up again cause of your words(Our prince will not die at the end). Hee Hee..
Will enjoy the sceneries of both SSH & LDH as I saw pictures of them together in some web pages & they really look cute together.(Apart from Song Hay Gyo, LDH is really matched with SSH other than actress).Maybe both of them can act v-well on screen.
By the way, in some of yours, I saw SSH is dating Sung Yu Ri( I thought she is a grilfriend of Gong Yu(Coffee prince). Right?
Warm Rgds,
Nyarnyar
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | | Will enjoy the sceneries of both SSH & LDH as I saw pictures of them together in some web pages |
Honestly, I've never really felt strongly about any pairing with SSH (though I've always thought Sung Yu Ri would make a great match.) For example, I always thought Won Bin should have played Joon-sa; his chemistry with Song Hye Kyo was fire.
His rapport with guys is actually much stronger IMO, because in real life, he's the perfect hyung ("older brother".) Protective, loyal, and always one of the boys. I often call SSH the George Clooney of Hallyu, because he's like best friends with almost every Hallyu star -- So Ji Sub, Park Yong Ha, Lee Byung Hun, and Kwon Sang Woo.
Lee Dae Hae could be potent with him though.
| Quote: | | By the way, in some of yours, I saw SSH is dating Sung Yu Ri( I thought she is a grilfriend of Gong Yu(Coffee prince). |
Sung Yu Ri is rumoured to be dating Yoo Ha-Joon, who was in One Fine Day with Gong Yoo. Some people speculated that Gong Yoo might have liked Yu Ri, though. Even before Coffee Prince, Gong Yoo has been rumoured to be attached with many leading ladies though (esp. Im So Jung and Gong Hyo Jin, with whom he's just friends), but it seems that the honest truth is that he just has a lot of friendships. He's expressed that his ideal woman would actually be older than him (like Kim Sun Ah?)
SSH and Sung Yu Ri dated probably 2002 and 2003, around their Andre Kim fashion appearance, relatively after FinKl ended. So this was before Sung Yu Ri was really committed to becoming an actress. The word was they didn't date all that long though. Not like say Song Hye Kyo and Lee Byung Hun -- word there was that relationship almost became a marriage.
Here was their appearance at the Andre Kim show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HyH25g2o10
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Nyar NyarJoined: 04 Sep 2006 Total posts: 57 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: Sung Yu Ri with Yoo jun hoon Post Rating: 0 |
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Hi Belleza,
I'm really pleased to have a reply whenever I've posted anytime.
Oh do you mean the museum manager(in One fine day) who is Yu Ri's superior & loves her v much. Oh! he's one of my eye candy in that series although he is not v good looking. I don't like Gong Yu in that series. If it is real, I will clap & cheer to the lovely couple(Yu Ri & Yoo).
As for me, I don't think LDH is just a potent to SSH. Have you seen the picture that I mentioned before. In that, she looks at SSH with a bright & lovely smile which means she's really fall for him & SSH smiles shining(Oops! I mean it on screen)
Anyway, thanks again.
Hope to keep in touch & update our EOE series as long as it airs & just drop me a mail once you know the ending. Sorry! it is my bad habit that I want to know in advance the ending of the series & feel good.
Warm Rgds,
Nyarnyar
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bellezaJoined: 21 Jan 2007 Total posts: 716 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | | Oh do you mean the museum manager(in One fine day) who is Yu Ri's superior & loves her v much. |
Oh no no no. It was the brother who was hot for his half-sister until he found out he was really hot for his blood sister. Character quit his incest fantasy real quick, but apparently the actor ended up winning Sung Yu Ri's heart anyway.
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