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[Discussion] Ninkyo Helper (Kusanagi Tsuyoshi)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I'm watching several J-dorama this season, something that I haven't done for awhile. This is one of them that I really enjoyed. I'm looknig forward to ep. 5

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When I watched the first episode I thought this drama was awesome. Little did I expect that it keeps getting better and better with each and every episode. I always appreciate Tsuyoshi's acting but he's amazing in this drama. Considering his real personalities I've seen from watching SMAP shows, I never imagine to see him fit perfectly as Tsubasa Hikoichi. The way he said "hai" at the end of episode one left such a strong impression to me. He expressed so much in just one word.

I'm really looking forward to episode 5 where it looks like we will know more about Tsubasa's past. This is hand down the best drama of this season.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

just finished watching ep 4

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well, i really liked ep1 & 2 and i thought they were great. but somehow ep3 was kind of let down for me. eventhough it tells you Riko's story and i am really liking this character now but it was not as good as first 2 eps.

i thought ep4 was much better but now i want the story to be more about the gang itself and not to focus on one elderly each ep. i know it sounds harsh because the whole story is based on life of elderly awareness (is it?) but i thought they still can tell their story through each one of Yakuza gang. so far we don't know much about them apart from Riko had a brother that died and she had to take over family business and be the head of their yakuza clan.

its already ep5 and it's about time they leave this routine.
i would love to see more about Hikoichi (i think i will in ep5 by the look of its preview) and i also like to know more about other characters.
but kind of confused about riko x hikoichi's relationship. sometimes it feels like they both are jealous about eachother and try to protect eachother. sometimes it feels as riko sees hikoichi as her borther replacment.
not to mention can't help to see more of hikoichi and Natsukawa's character.
again, Ryota is SOOOOOOOOOOOO adorable. just want to pinch his cheeks
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i just saw the first episode and i thought it was awesome! i had no expectations about Ninkyo Helper before but i have to say that now i'm hooked...Tsuyoshi is doing a pretty good job until now, as all the cast.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

This drama happens in a nursing home, right? Will there be really sad thing that happens to the elderly? I have a really soft spots for elderlies...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I like the series, but I get a Gokusen vibe... or some other drama that I can't quite put my finger on... like, I've seen something like this... maybe a My Boss My Hero vibe... but I've seen this formula before which is why it bothers me. But Yuki Jutta is so cold ;___; He went from silly butler, to serious snobby college yakuza. Same with Meisa ^_^U I'm interested in seeing how the lead character and that boy's mom will turn out in future episode (like, what's going to tbe the story with them?)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:58 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I've seen something like this... maybe a My Boss My Hero vibe... but I've seen this formula before which is why it bothers me.


Engine? but with seniors instead of children Whistling
At some parts it reminded me of Engine and it makes sense because producer and one of the directors are the same ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

nnnc wrote:
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I've seen something like this... maybe a My Boss My Hero vibe... but I've seen this formula before which is why it bothers me.


Engine? but with seniors instead of children Whistling
At some parts it reminded me of Engine and it makes sense because producer and one of the directors are the same ^_^


Never saw that series, so I wouldn't know ^_^U

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

episode 5 was emotional Sad
made me cry a bit

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I was right! Ryota's mom has dementia (or Alzheimer)
I feel so bad for Ryota tho Sad
But i finally got to learn about Tsubasa's past.

Next episode is gonna be interesting.
i wonder if there's going to be any development between Riko and Tsubasa.
Also, that creepy old man harassing the female helpers.. just creepy



Best drama of the season salut [/spoiler]

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ryota is so cute and I feel so sad when he told Hikoichi that
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his mom cooked the same meal 2 days in a row and he doesn't know what to do. I wonder if Hikoichi somehow has feeling for Natsukawa's character.

Such an emotional series.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

lunas wrote:
Ryota is so cute and I feel so sad when he told Hikoichi that
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his mom cooked the same meal 2 days in a row and he doesn't know what to do. I wonder if Hikoichi somehow has feeling for Natsukawa's character.

Such an emotional series.


OH WOW, another fan of adorable super kawaii Ryota. cheers

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i just love how says Aniki and i hate how Hikoichi treats him.



I remember watching him in Toyota Car CMs. scratch or maybe other make. but it was him. Wub

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Issy wrote:

OH WOW, another fan of adorable super kawaii Ryota. cheers

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i just love how says Aniki and i hate how Hikoichi treats him.


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About Ryota and Hikoichi
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I love how he says Aniki too. As for how Hikoichi treats him, somehow I think this is why Ryota gets attached to Hikoichi in the first place. He doesn't have his dad and he watched yakuza movie and has those characters as his hero. I believe Ryota wants to have a father figure who gives him tough love yet be there for him when he needs help. Before he met Hikoichi, he only had his mother who didn't have much time for him but still was overly protective. While Hikoichi may act like he doesn't care and use harsh language, he always listen to Ryota and he seems to be the only one who understands Ryota the most. I really like the part in episode 4 when Ryota punched his bullying friend and came to see Hikoichi. Hikoichi could sense right away that there was something going on so he's nicer than usual and listened to what Ryota had to say. Later in the episode, he also told Ryota to go apologize to his friend. He really acted like a tough dad here. Big Smile



Pairing: Hikoichi x Riko or Hikoichi x Hatori
Back when the drama was first announced, I was hoping for Hikoichi x Hatori and prayed not to have Riko as Hikoichi's love interest. Simply because I think Kuroki Meisa is too young for Tsuyoshi, and they won't look good together Big Smile But after the first episode, I'm sold and it warms my heart every time they ran after one another to help each other out. However, I'm still torn between these two pairing. Hikoichi x Hatori looks good together and seem that deep down they understand each other a lot without saying. Through these five episodes, Hatori has learned to trust and open up to Hikoichi. Hikoichi, again, seems to be the only one who saw the real Hatori behind her snobby, cold-hearted persona. Hikoichi and Hatori seems to be equal. As for Hikoichi x Riko, sometimes I feel that Riko sees Hikoichi as her brother substitute.

I'm not sure whether they will have Hikoichi ends up with Riko or Hatori or none at all. But judging from the preview for episode 6, I think we'll have more idea and know more about Hatori's story.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

@nnnc
Yes, I think i kind of know the meaning behind the way he treats Ryota and i know how he deeply cares for him. but as Ryota is just too adorable, i feel that way.

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from very begining, i did not want any Hikoichi x Riko pairing. even though liking riko more and more with each ep but i still don't want that pairing.
I am all for Hatori x Hikoichi pairing

Riko is already taking over her brother job and has a gang to lead. somehow i see it hard for any romance between her and Hikoichi. plus, as i said before, i am always puzzled by her reaction towards Hikoichi. sometimes she thinks of him as her old brother and somethines you sense there is some love feeling towards him.

for Hatori, she is starting to open up for Hikoichi more and talking about her life.
with her recent diagnosis with early dementia, i think Hikoichi will care for her more. not to forget Ryota that can see a father figure in Hikoichi.

and what about other helperr girl that clearly so in love with Hikoichi? i just can't help not to sympathise with her too. i think she deserves a chance too but i really don't see that happening anyway.

my thoughts is that Hikoichi won't end up with anyone. i feel like by the end of the story, he will quit being a Yakuza and will continue his work as a helper in that centre or other one. most probably will be taking care of Hatori because as her dementia progresses, she wont be able to remember anything or anyone. so Hikoichi will be her helper taking care of her and Ryota.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Love love love this series. Definitely getting a My Boss My Hero vibe with old people. First drama that I can recall watching with Tsuyoshi in it, although I became a fan when I heard he was drunk and naked in the park LOL

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I'm joining the Ryota fanclub too! He is so cute, love it when Hikoichi scrunches his face!

Digging the RikoxHikoichi pairing, they're both badass with hearts of gold, I love it! I They both have those killer eyes...wonder what happened to that old woman in episode 2 though Sad I don't really see the HatorixHikoichi pairing, it seems platonic to me. Haruna is cute though with her little crush on Hikoichi. Poor girl lol

I'm wondering what's up with Masato (college boy). Though if he follows general jdrama rules, I'm sure he'll redeem himself in the end.


I think the show does a good job of balancing the POV of both the seniors in the home as well as the helpers. And I am so digging the music, really fits into the redemptive theme of the drama quite well. Hope someone uploads the soundtrack hehe
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

talking about its OST, I am SOOOO in love with too. but could not help but notice similar notes to Mei-chan no Shitsuji. i wonder if they both have similar composer.
but what i want the most, is its opening theme. very powerfull cheers

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