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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

well I guess then her hair dresser is brilliant cuz her hair is AWWWSOME salut
anywaaaaay, Ueno Juri is always beautifull Mr. Green
now seriously guys does anyone know where can I find a subbed version of their interview??? Unsure


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now seriously guys does anyone know where can I find a subbed version of their interview??? Unsure

Don't hold your breath... That kind of stuff typically never gets subbed.

Just enjoy the view. Smile

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Here's some recent pics of Juri-chan (thanks to meoinkie2 at J-D) with (semi) short hair that I can really love: Wub




Whoa, her new hairstyle is gorgeous! I love Juri's shy smile. Such lovely eyes. Big Smile

The tousled and wavy hair (ala the Meg Ryan cut, lol) suits Juri very much....it's sassy, sexy and sophisticated yet retains a hint of boyishness. Wub
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can someone explain to me what's the SP about?? there is no info about it on the web... Blink
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The tousled and wavy hair (ala the Meg Ryan cut, lol) suits Juri very much....it's sassy, sexy and sophisticated yet retains a hint of boyishness. Wub

I can see the Meg Ryan analogy, but "boyishness?"

Nah. Tongue

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can someone explain to me what's the SP about?? there is no info about it on the web... Blink


The SP (Special Episode) only had about 9 minutes of new stuff. A brief epilogue giving us a glimpse of how the sharehouse members are doing one year later....

You can download the edited SP from the torrent here at D-addicts.

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The tousled and wavy hair (ala the Meg Ryan cut, lol) suits Juri very much....it's sassy, sexy and sophisticated yet retains a hint of boyishness. Wub

I can see the Meg Ryan analogy, but "boyishness?"

Nah. Tongue


Well I dunno about you, but I still see some residual "Rukaness" in her. Mr. Green
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arigatooo hanapyupyu Smile
I know about SPs but I was lost when they said that it's only 10 min Tongue
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The tousled and wavy hair (ala the Meg Ryan cut, lol) suits Juri very much....it's sassy, sexy and sophisticated yet retains a hint of boyishness. Wub

I can see the Meg Ryan analogy, but "boyishness?"

Nah. Tongue


Well I dunno about you, but I still see some residual "Rukaness" in her. Mr. Green

That's only because this is the Last Friends thread. Tongue

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hanapyupyu wrote:
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hanapyupyu wrote:
The tousled and wavy hair (ala the Meg Ryan cut, lol) suits Juri very much....it's sassy, sexy and sophisticated yet retains a hint of boyishness. Wub

I can see the Meg Ryan analogy, but "boyishness?"

Nah. Tongue


Well I dunno about you, but I still see some residual "Rukaness" in her. Mr. Green

All out for the hair. Wub
But I think the clothing just adds to the hotness~ I can totally see the tag "Ruka-5 years later" or something under those pics. It's not boyishness anymore. More like manliness...lol. Mr. Green *escapes from being run over by a bmw*

Anyway, we're getting OOT...for more vids, pics and discussion about Juri, please head to the thread here. Cool
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I know I'm a little late to the party here, but I finally got around to watching Last Friends, so here's my (kind of lengthy) review. It's pretty opinionated and I know some of them aren't the most popular opinions (after reading some other posts on the forum) so I just wanted to throw my two cents in.

There are spoilers which I did not tag since it's been over for over a month now, so if you haven't watched the whole thing, don't keep reading.



I think this drama had great potential but the writer dropped the ball. (Where have I heard that before?) It was an interesting, complex story that kept you wanting to find out what happened. The feelings Ruka had toward Michiru were believable and made you want to root for something to come of them. However, I think it was a mistake for the writer to make her have so-called "Gender Identity Disorder" than to just make her a lesbian. I think they did this for shock value, complete with the hinting of her having a sex change, but never had the balls to follow up with it and in the end that part of the story was just completely abandoned and never resolved. But I think she was an extremely interesting character - they made her seem tough without cold and emotional without being too weak. I especially appreciated that her parents were (somewhat begrudgingly) supportive of her lifestyle.

As for Michiru, what a freaking mess. I feel sorry for Nagasawa Masami for having to play such a one-dimensional, weak character. Michiru was nothing but weak. She could not stand up for herself. She didn't not WANT to stand up for herself. The only reason she got out of the abusive relationship with Sousuke is because her friends dragged her, practically kicking and screaming, out of it. And even then she just did what her friends told her to. She had no brain. No will. She was just a piece of pathetic clay for everyone around her to mold as they pleased. I never really got the feeling that Michiru ACTUALLY felt that what Sousuke did to her was wrong. And we're not talking about a few shoves or a slap here. We're talking throwing her down on the ground and KICKING HER STOMACH REPEATEDLY abuse. WTF?? Michiru acted like she was 12 the whole drama. She had very little growth as a character. She reacted to Ruka's feelings in the same way - by running away. She was so damned stupid she fell for Sousuke's **** every single time, and even after he raped her she was like "Oh, if you promise not to hurt my friends I'll stay here with you." Riiight. What a weak, worthless waste of space.

Now for Takeru. I think they dropped the ball on his character, too. The WHOLE drama they kept hinting about his sister molesting him, but they NEVER had the balls to appropriately address the issue. Why even bring it up if they couldn't talk about it frankly? They made such an issue about it the whole time you kept waiting for the moment when he'd trust his friends enough to confide in them, but it never happened. In the end, the only one he even KIND OF told was Ruka, and even then it turned into some totally lame, vague story about his sister wanting him on her side. That could mean anything. I think they wanted to drop those hints to create controversy and buzz for the show, which is a shame because they really could have addressed something serious and dealt with it in a powerful way but instead they just made it seem like he was too ashamed to be able to open up to anyone fully about it.

Eri's character was a total waste of space. Nothing happened. She contributed nothing. And she was extremely annoying. Next.

I hated Sousuke's character. The reason I hated Sousuke's character is because they tried to give him this pitiful background as an excuse for why he behaved the way he did. Well, I hate to tell the writer, but many people grew up without parents or grew up in a lot shittier circumstances than he did and don't grow up to repeatedly abuse their girlfriends with no remorse. It was a complete cop-out at making his character "complex" or some ridiculous crap, which was completely ineffective for me. You do not have to be a product of your environment. This goes for Michiru, too. She grew up to repeat the mistakes of her mother because she was weak and had no will. The same for Sousuke. He was weak and that's why he did what he did. He was someone who did not deserve to be alive, and while I'm glad he died, I think the way they did it was an utter cop-out. I refuse to believe that after all the horrific beatings he gave Michiru that a few damn pictures of her eating shish-kebabs made him release he'd done wrong. I don't think he would have ever had the courage to kill himself. I think he was a psychopath who would never ever kill himself because doing that would mean setting Michiru free, and I don't think he ever intended to set her free. But the writer wrote herself into a corner by making him so irredeemable and by never getting the police involved. I think the proper ending for his character should have been sitting in a jail somewhere for the rest of his life in a room with no windows so he couldn't stalk his precious Michiru anymore. But the ridiculously over the top suicide with him slitting his wrists with some wedding dress draped over him (that we had never seen previously) soaked in blood was just too much. Total overkill. Pardon the pun.

The writer purposefully tried to "drop" things that would keep the viewers completely guessing. From the first episode, it almost sounds like Ruka was the one who died. Along with the molestation of Takeru, etc. But the thing I had the biggest problem with was the COMPLETELY unnecessary comment Michiru's doctor made about the high blood pressure. It was absolutely pointless and contrived to make you think something would go wrong with the baby, when obviously that did not happen.

And don't even get me started on the overly cheesy Rumi.

In the end, I think the drama had potential but it was the writer's fault that it didn't turn out to be great. I wouldn't waste my time watching it again. I got more frustrated than entertained.

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And don't even get me started on the overly cheesy Rumi.


haha I have to agree with you vehemently on this one. I think I threw up a lil in my mouth when I heard the corny ass meaning behind the name. -___-

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I've always been spiteful toward all the roles Ryo have played, but he really won me over in Last Friends. His expression changes were great, and the conflict inside him was almost tangible.

Does cardboard have any expressions? scratch


I don't get it. How come you're always a dick to Ryo? My turn to scratch my head. scratch

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awrittensin wrote:
I know I'm a little late to the party here, but I finally got around to watching Last Friends, so here's my (kind of lengthy) review. It's pretty opinionated and I know some of them aren't the most popular opinions (after reading some other posts on the forum) so I just wanted to throw my two cents in.

There are spoilers which I did not tag since it's been over for over a month now, so if you haven't watched the whole thing, don't keep reading.



I think this drama had great potential but the writer dropped the ball. (Where have I heard that before?) It was an interesting, complex story that kept you wanting to find out what happened. The feelings Ruka had toward Michiru were believable and made you want to root for something to come of them. However, I think it was a mistake for the writer to make her have so-called "Gender Identity Disorder" than to just make her a lesbian. I think they did this for shock value, complete with the hinting of her having a sex change, but never had the balls to follow up with it and in the end that part of the story was just completely abandoned and never resolved. But I think she was an extremely interesting character - they made her seem tough without cold and emotional without being too weak. I especially appreciated that her parents were (somewhat begrudgingly) supportive of her lifestyle.

As for Michiru, what a freaking mess. I feel sorry for Nagasawa Masami for having to play such a one-dimensional, weak character. Michiru was nothing but weak. She could not stand up for herself. She didn't not WANT to stand up for herself. The only reason she got out of the abusive relationship with Sousuke is because her friends dragged her, practically kicking and screaming, out of it. And even then she just did what her friends told her to. She had no brain. No will. She was just a piece of pathetic clay for everyone around her to mold as they pleased. I never really got the feeling that Michiru ACTUALLY felt that what Sousuke did to her was wrong. And we're not talking about a few shoves or a slap here. We're talking throwing her down on the ground and KICKING HER STOMACH REPEATEDLY abuse. WTF?? Michiru acted like she was 12 the whole drama. She had very little growth as a character. She reacted to Ruka's feelings in the same way - by running away. She was so damned stupid she fell for Sousuke's **** every single time, and even after he raped her she was like "Oh, if you promise not to hurt my friends I'll stay here with you." Riiight. What a weak, worthless waste of space.

Now for Takeru. I think they dropped the ball on his character, too. The WHOLE drama they kept hinting about his sister molesting him, but they NEVER had the balls to appropriately address the issue. Why even bring it up if they couldn't talk about it frankly? They made such an issue about it the whole time you kept waiting for the moment when he'd trust his friends enough to confide in them, but it never happened. In the end, the only one he even KIND OF told was Ruka, and even then it turned into some totally lame, vague story about his sister wanting him on her side. That could mean anything. I think they wanted to drop those hints to create controversy and buzz for the show, which is a shame because they really could have addressed something serious and dealt with it in a powerful way but instead they just made it seem like he was too ashamed to be able to open up to anyone fully about it.

Eri's character was a total waste of space. Nothing happened. She contributed nothing. And she was extremely annoying. Next.

I hated Sousuke's character. The reason I hated Sousuke's character is because they tried to give him this pitiful background as an excuse for why he behaved the way he did. Well, I hate to tell the writer, but many people grew up without parents or grew up in a lot shittier circumstances than he did and don't grow up to repeatedly abuse their girlfriends with no remorse. It was a complete cop-out at making his character "complex" or some ridiculous crap, which was completely ineffective for me. You do not have to be a product of your environment. This goes for Michiru, too. She grew up to repeat the mistakes of her mother because she was weak and had no will. The same for Sousuke. He was weak and that's why he did what he did. He was someone who did not deserve to be alive, and while I'm glad he died, I think the way they did it was an utter cop-out. I refuse to believe that after all the horrific beatings he gave Michiru that a few damn pictures of her eating shish-kebabs made him release he'd done wrong. I don't think he would have ever had the courage to kill himself. I think he was a psychopath who would never ever kill himself because doing that would mean setting Michiru free, and I don't think he ever intended to set her free. But the writer wrote herself into a corner by making him so irredeemable and by never getting the police involved. I think the proper ending for his character should have been sitting in a jail somewhere for the rest of his life in a room with no windows so he couldn't stalk his precious Michiru anymore. But the ridiculously over the top suicide with him slitting his wrists with some wedding dress draped over him (that we had never seen previously) soaked in blood was just too much. Total overkill. Pardon the pun.

The writer purposefully tried to "drop" things that would keep the viewers completely guessing. From the first episode, it almost sounds like Ruka was the one who died. Along with the molestation of Takeru, etc. But the thing I had the biggest problem with was the COMPLETELY unnecessary comment Michiru's doctor made about the high blood pressure. It was absolutely pointless and contrived to make you think something would go wrong with the baby, when obviously that did not happen.

And don't even get me started on the overly cheesy Rumi.

In the end, I think the drama had potential but it was the writer's fault that it didn't turn out to be great. I wouldn't waste my time watching it again. I got more frustrated than entertained.

Yeah, you're late to the game... But your observations are on the mark.

I'll be hard pressed to ever watch this drama ever again as well... It's not something worth experiencing multiple times.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I only watched this show for Juri-chan. I think most of the people will agree that she's the only good reason to watch this show.
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^ I think you're right. Somehow she just lights up the drama. =]

As for the drama, I was kinda expecting more from it. And I agree that whoever wrote it, didn't do a magnificent job at it.
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