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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean names and there pronunciation   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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This has been on my mind for quite a while now so I ask today. Is it just me or the way the Korean pronounce there names is totally different to how they spell it (in English of course). Ive been watching Kdramas for less than 2 yrs but still find Korean names to be very hard to remember (seriously, I only remember Jeon Ji Hyun) even when compared to Japanese names.

Anyone else felt like that?


You are absolutely right! What were they thinking of? I can sort of understand this when it comes to names, because nearly every name has a Hanja spelling which reads rather differently if you speak Mandarin, Cantonese or Japanese instead of Korean, so in a sense they are used to having several spellings or several pronunciations or sometimes several entirely different names (that's some asian thing). Government officials really puzzle me though, "Revised Romanization of Korean", right...

Btw. I'm still to meet the first person who can pronounce Hyundai Tongue


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Btw. I'm still to meet the first person who can pronounce Hyundai


haha i always crack up when i hear something like "hondai" "hon day" in their american commercials.

japanese names are harder for me to remember, but probably cuz i'm korean. i think they have too many syllables..

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean names and there pronunciation   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

dima wrote:

You are absolutely right! What were they thinking of? I can sort of understand this when it comes to names, because nearly every name has a Hanja spelling which reads rather differently if you speak Mandarin, Cantonese or Japanese instead of Korean, so in a sense they are used to having several spellings or several pronunciations or sometimes several entirely different names (that's some asian thing). Government officials really puzzle me though, "Revised Romanization of Korean", right...

Btw. I'm still to meet the first person who can pronounce Hyundai Tongue


You made me chuckle.

So Im intrigued now. Exactly how DO you pronounce it?

To me its something like this:

Hyundai = Hi-un-dae-e

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I don't abide by any romanizatoin system stricly, but I do prefer to spell all "uh" sounds with the "eo". Thus --> Jeon Ji Hyeon instead of Jun Ji Hyun. Sometimes I break that rule for names like "Sun Young" -- which otherwise would be spelled "Seon Yeong."

I wonder how people here pronounce a name like "Choi Ji Woo"? It's pronounced "Chweh Jee Oo" Though the w in the "Chweh" isn't supposed to be noticable while the "Oo" has a small "w" sound -- so it's correct as "Cheh Jee Woo" too.

It's funny though when Korean Americans with the last name "Choi" pronounce their own names as "Choy" (rhymes with toy). It's funny because it's wrong and yet they're Korean...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Korean names and there pronunciation   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Kayote wrote:

You made me chuckle.

So Im intrigued now. Exactly how DO you pronounce it?

To me its something like this:

Hyundai = Hi-un-dae-e


Hönde

ö like in her
e like in heh

really a short word, means modern btw
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Well Japanese is more straight-forward and has a lot of the same sounds as English besides the whole "r" and "l" and "d" sounds that kind of confuse people sometimes. But Korean has some really unique sounds and spellings so it's harder for me. I don't speak either fluently, but I find it easier to remember Japanese names and pick up Japanese easier then I can with Korean. And also because Koreans have a lot of the same syllables in their names like "Jung" and "Hoon" etc...

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

There is a new official Romanization scheme

Romanization of Korean names here

http://www.metro.daejeon.kr/english/lifeindaejeon/usefulinfo/romanizationofkorea.jsp


If you can read Korean

http://www.korean.go.kr/000_new/80_s03_c4.htm


another one here

http://www.korea.net/korea/kor_loca.asp?code=A020303
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

altair wrote:
There is a new official Romanization scheme

Romanization of Korean names here

http://www.metro.daejeon.kr/english/lifeindaejeon/usefulinfo/romanizationofkorea.jsp


If you can read Korean

http://www.korean.go.kr/000_new/80_s03_c4.htm


another one here

http://www.korea.net/korea/kor_loca.asp?code=A020303


That's cool, thanks for the links.

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Korean is ALOT harder than Japanese!!
I don't like the Korean language, talk about C.O.M.P.L.I.C.A.T.E.D !!
and Japanese is much easier and more fun ^_^
another thing is remmebering Korean names is harder, I so don't like thier names $_$
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So there isn't any fixed romanization even if they try to make a standard?
I found it a bit interesting since I watched some dramas where they translated the background songs (like in goong) to "romanizationed" Korean (how do I inflect/conjugate the word romanization?). So I could hear the actual pronunciation and at the same time trying to read the romanzation. I read it trying to use the "English alphabet" and the "Swedish" and thought that the Swedish pronunciation sounded actually more accurate. For example The Swedish "u" and "i" sounded more correct and we also use a rolling "r"...but maybe that's because English isn't my native tongue and there is no Korean standard... Smile

listen to the Swedish alphabet
http://web.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm#pronunciation
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The government mandated New Romanization is standard.

The three links that I gave follow the same rules.


I agree that Korean pronunciation is much harder than Japanese. Sometimes, even the natives have a hard time differentiating between the sounds (e.g. 레 and 래)
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The problem with the New Romanization would be with the established business names

like

현대 -> romanized as Hyundai
real Korean pronunciation is Hyun (as in Jeon Ji-Hyun) Dae (as in Daehanminguk)
if the new Romanization is followed
현대 == Hyeondae
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