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Permanent Seeding cancelled.

Posted: Aug 7th, '05, 23:12
by Ruroshin
The project has been running for a while and I haven't gotten many requests, also there are so many stuff release these days that I don't think this is going to work all that well. Instead I will use the resources to do what I'm currently doing, batching up old torrents and giving them the initial seeding.

Posted: Aug 8th, '05, 00:01
by groink
I see that you're very specific on the "fansub" releases. Does that mean you won't be including any TV captures that have hard subs, or any capture that use subtitles from non-fansub sources (ex: Toshiie to Matsu, Musashi, any NGN captures, etc.)?

--- groink

Posted: Aug 8th, '05, 00:07
by Ruroshin
I figured I start out with fansubs first then will branch out to more, there are lots of torrents on d-addicts and I can't do them all since disk space will be limited and I figured fansubs require the most effort so its a good place to start.

Ideally I would like to do them all but we'll have to see how far out budget will get us.

Posted: Aug 8th, '05, 19:19
by ina
That's an awesome idea! I just started watching J-doramas at the beginning of the year and I am still discovering new series, so this will help a lot as does the SOTW/SOTM and VSS.

I so love this forum.

Posted: Aug 8th, '05, 19:32
by Veritas
ina wrote:That's an awesome idea! I just started watching J-doramas at the beginning of the year and I am still discovering new series, so this will help a lot as does the SOTW/SOTM and VSS.

I so love this forum.
I totally agree. This forum is the best and this sounds like a great project. :thumleft:

After having watched anime a couple of years now i quite recently discovered the great enjoyment that is jdoramas, starting with GTO live action. :D
So i bet there are tons and tons of older shows and shows to come that i would like to watch.

Posted: Aug 8th, '05, 23:41
by cococrust
This is a cool idea. Actually I have started providing server space and bw for the CSOTM and the phoenix fansubbers. This way they can collaborate easier and be able to distribute releases faster as well. Nice thinking of you Ruro. You are really a great admin and D-A wont be anything without you. (ok..am i being too 'slap horse butt (heh, think of it in chinese))

Posted: Aug 10th, '05, 01:11
by Ruroshin
Well I went ahead and procured a box.

ASUS XP2400
240 GB HDD
4000 GB bandwidth on 100 Mbps connections ( 2000 GB in and 2000 GB out )

Cost quite a bit for the intial setup ($263) but will be $69 to maintain per month. Our budget will just hold out :-)

So fansubbers, any request for which series should go on the box first?

I'm also looking for some software that will automatically seed torrents if they're dead, I know there are some out there I just haven't found one yet, too lazy to write my own :P

For now I'll just start them up with cron jobs until I can find good software.

Posted: Aug 10th, '05, 16:19
by cococrust
Hmm, great. By the way, where is the server located at?? Thats a great price (though the initial steep setup fee).

Posted: Aug 11th, '05, 01:21
by Ruroshin
The Data center is located at EZZI - NYC - USA

The steep setup cost was mostly for the extra 200GB HDD.

So no request from the fansubbers?

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 04:14
by kood
I don't think anyone sees this thread yet.
I am constantly amazed by the new ways of improving D-Addicts and its features.
How about asking the leechers which batched series should be up for grabs first? (Like a poll)

EDIT: I strongly suggest a series unavailable through Clubbox and has hardly any available or known BT seeders.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 04:47
by slashdevdsp
ha

this is great service :)

I would love to have there:

one million stars

sleeping forrest :)

cheeeeeeeeeerz
:w00t:

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 05:22
by Ruroshin
I'll do shinsengumi first as a test subject since there's been no request from fansubbers yet. Shinsengumi is a great series but also very long so its hard to get seed. I'll be uploading the series to the server next week.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 05:26
by amrayu
Sekai no chuushin de, ai wo sakebu. :)
Or Gokusen.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 06:32
by Ruroshin
Sekai still has seeds so I'll get to work downloadiing that to the server right now :)

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 13:29
by Veritas
Starting with Shinsengumi is a great idea! :cheers:
Shinsengumi is indeed such a great show and im down to the last 10 eps and they seem really hard to download, didn't have any trouble with the batches :-)

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 14:23
by Ruroshin
I wonder if I should go for 1 super batch of Shinsengumi. Might be tough on downloader's HDD but it'll be simplier to keep 1 torrent permanently seeded than many.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 21:30
by kood
I think you should.

If users have small hdds, I suggest switching to a bittorrent program which allows file selection such as BitComet/Azureus. (DL the first 4 gigs and seed then burn. Then dl the next 4gigs and repeat.)

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 22:00
by Tekuza
I think it's a great idea to have that but just worried might start attracting lots of leechers for it. :P

But cant wait to see what you do Ruroshin

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 22:37
by feedmeister
Is there any way you can tell which series are most frequently unseeded?

If that was possible, I think those series would be the best candidates.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 22:44
by TIticamara
This is a great idea. On top of my head would be Oyaji. ITs a great drama with no seeds.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 23:42
by Tekuza
What about if we you have permenent seeding that changes every month like series of the month at least hopefully that will be just jumping to conclusions here

2 Kdrama series
2 Jdrama series
2 C/TWdrama series

that way mostly all dead torrents get revived without having to wait for VSS and assurance that can benefit ppl that never got to download those series before and also that there is a rotation so that what ever ppl missed they can hopefully get it from the permanent seeding section

That's just my opinion how i see it can benefit everyone Ruroshin so in other words it's like having 3-4 permanent series of the month.

Posted: Aug 12th, '05, 23:56
by TNF
Woot! great idea ruroshin, permanent seeding. Which means I can leech guilt-free mwahahahah!!!! If it were up to me (and I can probably represent everyone on the tomoya nagase thread) I would place all dramas with naga-kun in it. But since I know not everyone is as crazy about nagase as we are, I'd say we should plonk dramas on there by requests. 2000 GB is a lot of space. the average jdrama takes less than 4 GB and the average kdrama takes up 7 to 10 GB batch. 2000 GB is more than enough for fanwork lol.

Don't worry we will keep clicking on those ads.

Posted: Aug 13th, '05, 00:06
by witica
that would be a great idea, especially since everybody seems to upload all these awesome series at once. you always feel stuck in the middle trying to figure out what series to collect when you have limited hd space.

Posted: Aug 13th, '05, 01:07
by Ruroshin
tikleabubble wrote:Woot! great idea ruroshin, permanent seeding. Which means I can leech guilt-free mwahahahah!!!! If it were up to me (and I can probably represent everyone on the tomoya nagase thread) I would place all dramas with naga-kun in it. But since I know not everyone is as crazy about nagase as we are, I'd say we should plonk dramas on there by requests. 2000 GB is a lot of space. the average jdrama takes less than 4 GB and the average kdrama takes up 7 to 10 GB batch. 2000 GB is more than enough for fanwork lol.

Don't worry we will keep clicking on those ads.
heh its actually only 200GB of disk space and 2000GB/month of bandwidth.

Posted: Aug 13th, '05, 01:08
by Ruroshin
Tekuza wrote:What about if we you have permenent seeding that changes every month like series of the month at least hopefully that will be just jumping to conclusions here

2 Kdrama series
2 Jdrama series
2 C/TWdrama series

that way mostly all dead torrents get revived without having to wait for VSS and assurance that can benefit ppl that never got to download those series before and also that there is a rotation so that what ever ppl missed they can hopefully get it from the permanent seeding section

That's just my opinion how i see it can benefit everyone Ruroshin so in other words it's like having 3-4 permanent series of the month.
I could reserve some space for that. I'll give it more thought.

permanent seeding

Posted: Aug 20th, '05, 22:29
by knuts
After the frustration ... :cry: :-( :pale: :crazy: ....(can I say this, since this downloading is free of charge?...anyway...)...of several dl stuck at 9x,x % for days and several unheard pleads for seeding, I was thinking this is no fun :-( anymore and what a shame of all the effort of so many people put into translating, subbing, uploading, etc...of these TV drama's and other. This material is in fact only available, if you are here at the right moment.

So, I was thinking :idea: , if everybody, that is downloading from this side, would reserve some space on his harddrive for permanent seeding of some material in return for downloading tons of GB of other stuff from this site, wouldn't that make life much easier? No more unfinished dl's, no more "shouting", no more waiting, no more searching of other sources and no more "annoying" requests from leechers to seeders and uploaders. Sounds great, no? :D

I am willing to be the permanent seeder of, let's say, the kdrama My Name is Kim Sam Soon and the Kim Sam Soon NG. If I should not be able to seed any longer for whatever reason, I will try to find someone else to pass the torch on to.

Btw, this seeding as long as you can after one has downloaded something is not really working imo, because... when may I stop seeding? I have only have so much space on my HDD and I would like to continue to download other things. Result: unfinshed dl's for latescomers.

If there would be permanent seeders for every torrent, I could stop right after I have finished the dl without feeling guilty and causing "trouble".

what do you think? Is this feasible?

Posted: Aug 21st, '05, 13:30
by Ruroshin
sounds almost VSSish, you might want to take your proposal up with jholic

Posted: Aug 22nd, '05, 09:18
by knuts
thank you, Ruroshin
I will try to contact jholic

Posted: Aug 28th, '05, 06:08
by fuddleduddle
that's an amazing idea. im sure it'll go well for everyone if we all do our part to seed.

Posted: Aug 28th, '05, 07:53
by feedmeister
Ruroshin wrote:sounds almost VSSish, you might want to take your proposal up with jholic
Just do it.


seeding is nice but it's no fun without leechers. Seed what you love...I mean seed what you want to seed, but just let someone like Jholic know so that they can promote it.

I was a closet seeder for a while but once I realized I should tell people I'm seeding and got with jholic, he got the banners and such up and I got many more peers showing up, which made everything faster.

Posted: Aug 28th, '05, 08:30
by Kurusawa
Great idea! Maybe should start a poll of series to upload to the server or just upload the really old classics! :)

Posted: Aug 29th, '05, 00:38
by Ruroshin
Kurusawa wrote:Great idea! Maybe should start a poll of series to upload to the server or just upload the really old classics! :)
I'm starting with the fansubs first then after that I'll do poll or maybe just use the series of the week/month.

Posted: Aug 29th, '05, 00:59
by 3catz
At last! :D What a great chance to complete the incomplete dramas I have [and therefore have not watched.] Thank you, thank you, Ruro..

Posted: Aug 30th, '05, 09:55
by jholic
not sure, but would MUSASHI (uploaded by Carn-chan) be a series that would be eligible for perm-seed? it's huge - like shinsengumi.

Posted: Aug 30th, '05, 22:49
by Ruroshin
Yeah those sort of huge dramas are ideal for this sort of thing. I have a list of dramas to do first then I'll get around to Musashi and Toshiie too.

Posted: Sep 4th, '05, 20:23
by rambutan
Could we have Concerto, already a batched file, on permanent seeding, please? I am dl at the rate of 1% a day.

Posted: Sep 4th, '05, 20:26
by rambutan
Ruroshin wrote:
Tekuza wrote:What about if we you have permenent seeding that changes every month like series of the month at least hopefully that will be just jumping to conclusions here

2 Kdrama series
2 Jdrama series
2 C/TWdrama series

that way mostly all dead torrents get revived without having to wait for VSS and assurance that can benefit ppl that never got to download those series before and also that there is a rotation so that what ever ppl missed they can hopefully get it from the permanent seeding section

That's just my opinion how i see it can benefit everyone Ruroshin so in other words it's like having 3-4 permanent series of the month.
This is really a great idea. I second this!

I could reserve some space for that. I'll give it more thought.

Posted: Oct 24th, '05, 16:10
by Phoenix
Ruroshin, Have you thought of modifying the Torrent Search to include a type of "Permanent Seed"? That will distinguish batches that are permanent seed from other batches which are not. For some people, it may be important to know which series will definitely maintain a seed throughout the entire time it takes to download multiple episodes. That information could influence which series they choose to download.

Posted: Oct 24th, '05, 22:08
by Ruroshin
^ yeah ok I"ll add that in sometime.

At the moment you can do it by searching for uploaded by DAOtoko. Or they can just view the first post of this topic.

Posted: Oct 26th, '05, 05:07
by Ruroshin
OK modified the search torrent select type list to include a 'perm seed' option

Posted: Oct 26th, '05, 07:41
by Jannah
Ruroshin wrote:OK modified the search torrent select type list to include a 'perm seed' option
That's a really useful one. Thanks Ruro!

Posted: Oct 26th, '05, 18:52
by Phoenix
Ruroshin wrote:OK modified the search torrent select type list to include a 'perm seed' option
Thank you!

Posted: Oct 26th, '05, 21:27
by awrittensin
Ruroshin, I was wondering how much space you have left for the permanent seeding project? Maybe if you have more space you could consider putting the first season of Glass Mask up (that I fansubbed. and anneyuu uploaded) because I'm always getting swamped with requests to seed for people. Then hopefully once the second season is done, we can batch that up too, either for the perm seeding project, or I can nominate it for JSOTW. Either way, I need help with something because since I (obviously) share my internet connection with other members of my household, seeding every episode I've subbed really eats up my bandwidth (and gets me in trouble with my husband :whistling: )

Please consider Glass Mask. :-)

Posted: Oct 26th, '05, 22:57
by Ruroshin
Sure, I'll start putting Glass Mask on the server.

Posted: Nov 16th, '05, 08:28
by Kanpai
Ruroshin wrote:I'm starting with the fansubs first then after that I'll do poll or maybe just use the series of the week/month.
Ruroshin,
Could you put this week's JSOTW, Wedding Planner, on your permanent server?
This week's SOTW doesn't seem to be seeded very well...

I guess this would be a temporary, "permanent" seed...?

If you can, thank you.

Posted: Nov 16th, '05, 09:02
by Ruroshin
I can't do that because this week's series is not from our tracker.

but I wouldn't worry, series of the week are usually always well seeded, just give it a bit of time for the initial seeder to spread it the rest.

Posted: Feb 9th, '06, 07:23
by allredndizzy
i hope u permanently seed full house :D it's really a nice series

Posted: Feb 9th, '06, 07:39
by groink
allredndizzy wrote:i hope u permanently seed full house :D it's really a nice series
Why? Every episode has been seeded for months now. Permanant seeding are for those series that have trouble with seeding but is worth keeping active. When Full House starts having zero seeds, THEN...........

Posted: Feb 9th, '06, 09:32
by allredndizzy
oh is that so? hehe! i was just hoping more people would seed it to make downloading faster..it takes me days to download one episode :-( my download speed is not stable..dat's y

Posted: Feb 22nd, '06, 04:58
by neonkinpatsu
The point of this isn't to increase d/l speed for the impatient. It's to increase ability to even d/l certain series. If it's too slow for you, then shell out some money for the DVD boxset.

Posted: Feb 27th, '06, 02:33
by jholic
DAOtoko: thanks for batching up the 'glass mask' series! :D

Posted: Apr 25th, '06, 21:07
by Shinnen
Hmmm the other topic was closed so i thought i might post here this.
First of all i just found out d-addict a few days ago (lol), so sorry if i'm at the wrong topic. I'm a huge fan of the Kinpachi series (i bought the 5th s on dvd and watched through the 4th) but unfortunatly i don't have the money to buy the 7th s rite now.
I didn't have time to start this latest s and i don't wanna miss it cuz i'm a huge yayayah fan too, tegoshi was hilarious in the earlier season so... u see there r no seeds to the 7th series :(
I'd be so thankful if someone could reseed it, otherwise i'll never be able to see it, cuz i was searching for other torrents but i couldn't find any (with seeds..-.-)
I don't know if there r any possibilities for it, but i hope i can dl at leat 1 or 2 episodes.
(Pls pls pls?... :P)

Posted: Apr 25th, '06, 21:47
by Seghal
Shinnen wrote:Hmmm the other topic was closed so i thought i might post here this.
First of all i just found out d-addict a few days ago (lol), so sorry if i'm at the wrong topic. I'm a huge fan of the Kinpachi series (i bought the 5th s on dvd and watched through the 4th) but unfortunatly i don't have the money to buy the 7th s rite now.
I didn't have time to start this latest s and i don't wanna miss it cuz i'm a huge yayayah fan too, tegoshi was hilarious in the earlier season so... u see there r no seeds to the 7th series :(
I'd be so thankful if someone could reseed it, otherwise i'll never be able to see it, cuz i was searching for other torrents but i couldn't find any (with seeds..-.-)
I don't know if there r any possibilities for it, but i hope i can dl at leat 1 or 2 episodes.
(Pls pls pls?... :P)
Post your request here: http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8332

Posted: Apr 30th, '06, 15:52
by XaXaT
Ruroshin,
Thank you very much on setting up the server for downloading...... am currently downloading Kamisama, mou sukoshi dake. Just wanted to say thank you.....

it's great what you're doing

Posted: May 9th, '06, 00:24
by aplepy
having a perm..seeder for older series are great, especially for newcomers like us, who wants to see good J,K,C,TW-Dramas....

Posted: May 16th, '06, 04:01
by eternal_dragon_666
I think it's great that u guys aren't bending to the will of the impatient. I think keeping old dramas alive is much more important than speeding up downloads. By the way, wat's the bandwidth of the server tho? How many dramas can it host at once?

Posted: May 16th, '06, 04:37
by Ruroshin
eternal_dragon_666 wrote:I think it's great that u guys aren't bending to the will of the impatient. I think keeping old dramas alive is much more important than speeding up downloads. By the way, wat's the bandwidth of the server tho? How many dramas can it host at once?
2000 GB / month bandwidth but the real limitation is the hdd space only 200 GB worth. Still room for some more series but haven't gotten any request from the fansubbers lately so I just use it to download, batch up and seed torrents instead.

Posted: May 20th, '06, 18:07
by xiaohu
:P
HIYO!!

I'm new here, just chanced upon this forum.
Haf tried other forums but I'm impressed by the work some of the admins haf done!!
JIa You!!

And REALLY appreciate the perm seed idea!!
Real cool!!!!

THanx & kip up the gd work!!
May the perm list grow and grow!!

Posted: May 30th, '06, 22:28
by awrittensin
Ruroshin, I have a strange request...

I know the Permanent seeding project was started mainly to keep older fansubbed series alive, but it's been up and running for some time and there's still only a handful of permanently seeded projects.

So I was thinking, would it be possible to make some of these drama part of the Permanent seeding project?

- At Home Dad
- Kurokawa no Techou
- M no Higeki
- Sweet Season
- Nisennen no koi
- Oniyome Nikki
- Kegareta shita

Since these drama are raw, they have no chance of being part of the Japanese series of the week, therefore the chances are slim to none that they will get reseeded.

I also think that batching up a raw series and having it permanently seeded will give an incentive to fansubbers to sub these series that have remained raw for quite some time. This could give new life to these shows that have remained dead on d-addicts for a while.

I have two projects lined up after I finish Iguana, but I can commit to subbing Sweet Season after those two projects are finished. (Probably near the end of summer).

This is just a suggestion, and if it is not possible, I understand.

Posted: May 31st, '06, 03:57
by jholic
Ruro hasn't answered this question, but he can only batch up series that he has. so as long as the ones above are in his collection, i'm sure he can help you out, one series at a time. otherwise, we'll probably need someone else to contribute.

furthermore, we also need to follow the guidelines and contact the original uploaders for permission. after a sufficient amount of time is allotted for a reply, we can probably batch up certain series.

Ruro, please correct me if i'm wrong.

Posted: May 31st, '06, 04:03
by groink
jholic wrote:furthermore, we also need to follow the guidelines and contact the original uploaders for permission. after a sufficient amount of time is allotted for a reply, we can probably batch up certain series.
Where were the moderators when All about Eve batch was posted. Despite my report to them, it took four days for someone to finally catch it.

--- groink

Posted: May 31st, '06, 04:39
by jholic
looks like we all went on vacation at the same time.

Posted: May 31st, '06, 08:16
by Ruroshin
awrittensin wrote:Ruroshin, I have a strange request...

I know the Permanent seeding project was started mainly to keep older fansubbed series alive, but it's been up and running for some time and there's still only a handful of permanently seeded projects.

So I was thinking, would it be possible to make some of these drama part of the Permanent seeding project?

- At Home Dad
- Kurokawa no Techou
- M no Higeki
- Sweet Season
- Nisennen no koi
- Oniyome Nikki
- Kegareta shita

Since these drama are raw, they have no chance of being part of the Japanese series of the week, therefore the chances are slim to none that they will get reseeded.

I also think that batching up a raw series and having it permanently seeded will give an incentive to fansubbers to sub these series that have remained raw for quite some time. This could give new life to these shows that have remained dead on d-addicts for a while.

I have two projects lined up after I finish Iguana, but I can commit to subbing Sweet Season after those two projects are finished. (Probably near the end of summer).

This is just a suggestion, and if it is not possible, I understand.
actually I was waiting for some fansubbers to request their series for permanent seeding :lol Raws I probably won't add to the perm seeding but I can batch them up and seed them for a period of time which will give them a longer lasting life span.

and yes its true that I can only batch up series that I have. I'll try and download those series onto the seeding box and see how I go or if you have them and want to help upload it to the server that would be good too.

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 02:36
by Ruroshin
The project has been running for a while and I haven't gotten many requests, also there are so many stuff release these days that I don't think this is going to work all that well. Instead I will use the resources to do what I'm currently doing, batching up old torrents and giving them the initial seeding.

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 04:05
by jholic
guess we're going to have to change the name to 'permanent temporary seeding.' :lol

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 04:20
by canon05
The project has been running for a while and I haven't gotten many requests.

Why didn't they ask for permanent seeding? Thanks in advance.

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 09:06
by groink
canon05 wrote:
Why didn't they ask for permanent seeding? Thanks in advance.
I can only suspect that we REALLY don't have a seeding problem here. As I've mentioned before, old torrents dying away is really a natural thing. Permanent seeding was only a benefit of the newbies - everyone else who wanted the files already have them.

--- groink

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 09:40
by toyotaku
I really liked awrittensin's idea of including non-subbed dramas. There are those who are thankful just to get to see something in the first place --- subtitles are a gift --- and many of these older dramas are a BEAR to find seeders on. The community continues to grow, there are always going to be newbies, so should we say "too bad you didn't find out last year"? Is there any chance, too, that an older drama might find a subber providing softsubs knowing the raws have a chance of being kept available?

And what about the long dramas, like the taiga and others I see that go upwards of 20+ episodes... seems like they would benefit from the permanent seeding.

What about the idea of placing batches of dramas older than say 2 years (or even more) on permanent seeding, subs or not? Ruroshin or the mods or even some nomination/voting system could be set up to decide what went on after a prompt that there was space to include more?

Just throwing out ideas because I hate to see people just being turned on to Asian dramas being left out in the cold. (And, yes, I do seed the older dramas every chance I get, which has led me to wonder if some kind of "adoption" system, much like the VSS, could be created where members would keep an eye on older dramas that are their favorites or just a willingness to adopt them, seeding when necessary... which, I guess, could turn into a nightmare, but still... :-) )

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 12:59
by Isamu
yes a newbie like me^^ i want to watch gto so badly that i wont mind seeding some episodes longer than just for watching them.

are there even some with english subs? only found the french subbed ones =(

or how about make people seed one episode of their best liked series? must be possible to have a complete series to be available for all for a longer time.

Posted: Jun 10th, '06, 19:42
by neonkinpatsu
Ruroshin wrote:The project has been running for a while and I haven't gotten many requests, also there are so many stuff release these days that I don't think this is going to work all that well. Instead I will use the resources to do what I'm currently doing, batching up old torrents and giving them the initial seeding.
Sounds good still. Since we have a whole bunch more stuff, I'm all for this batching old/semi-old torrents thing. It makes it much easier to navigate. Could we possibly have a thread for updates on what you hope/plan to batch up with the list of what you've batched already? Maybe it can also have suggestions for what to batch up + volunteers to help w/ the batching and initial seeding, etc.

Posted: Jun 11th, '06, 00:44
by Ruroshin
well the next series I'm trying to download is 18vs29, not many seeders so it'll take a while. Once I have it all I'll batch it.

Posted: Aug 25th, '06, 16:02
by yfchow
yup

Posted: Sep 24th, '06, 22:58
by jonesw
I would really like to watch Huh Joon. It is so old now though. Maybe 8 years old. I bet no one has it. I figured since this was a forum for rare dramas...it could be a place to start.

Anyone have any advice for me. I have heard this is a really famous and great drama.

Posted: Dec 22nd, '06, 16:00
by Shuin
any1 can reseed? Sekai no chuushin de =(