

Now this may be funny (since it IS Billy Crystal that is Harry), it has some truth in it.. there will always be attraction between two opposing sexes, it cannot be helped. Now if either party will actually fall for each other, it depends on the person. IF they are so close like brothers and sisters, it might just feel wrong to fall for each other.. usually either party will say no because of that.Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That's too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
As for the man's point of view, Chris says that the man just hasn't found a way to get her in bed.Chris Rock wrote:"A platonic friend for a woman is like a d**k in a glass case. 'In case of emergency break open glass.'"
LOL I totally agree with thisgroink wrote:I personally believe in the Chris Rock theory behind "platonic" relationships... For the woman's point of view:
As for the man's point of view, Chris says that the man just hasn't found a way to get her in bed.Chris Rock wrote:"A platonic friend for a woman is like a d**k in a glass case. 'In case of emergency break open glass.'"
--- groink
i am one of those girls to who gets along better with guys. so most of my (best) friends are guysaikidoaasa wrote:I think that friendship between the sexes are possible. If that wouldn't be true I would have a lot less friends than I thought...![]()
I'm one of those girls that get along with guys better than women. I have a thing against all that bull **** talk that they do. (I can say that because I'm a woman too.)
Sure the "risk" of someone of them get to fall in love with me are always there, but is that "maybe" a reason to end the friendship with them? No, that's just plain silly. Most of them has girlfriends and sometimes it can be fun to example go shopping for presents with them as an advisor. (One friend asked me even to buy the lingerie for him cause he thought that the sailsperson looked scary.)
My boyfriend thinks that it's ok too. Most of my friends are his friends to so this way it's funnier to do things together. And he has a few friends that are girls to and I'm not worried about that. (And that's not because they're not good looking, they are really good looking but it's the way he is with them that tells me that he hasn't any deeper feelings for them than friendship.)
So my vote is definetly a YES!
I don't personally think that this is a reason. Cause then homosexuals couldn't be friends with their own sex either. And that does sound strange to me. Just because you happen to like someone from a special sex doesn't mean that you get to have a crush on everyone of that sex. (Ok, I know that a lot of people seems to think that about homosexuals, but that's a lie.)xmz wrote:so that is why i think that it is difficult for a guy and a girl to be friends when they don't have an relationship eventually at some point one of them may fall for the other
hmmm maybe i should idd change the question to 'can i be just friends with someone i am very attracted to or someone who is attracted to me?'nikochanr3 wrote:Of course its possible, if not you couldn't have any friends of the opposite sex at all after you found someone you wanted.This seems pretty simple to me. Some of the answers strike me as immature- do you guys hit on every women you see, no matter who they are?
The real question seems to be to me "Can I be just friends with someone I am very attracted to?". I think i'm a bit of a perv (no asian woman within 100 feet escapes my notice) and i have plenty of girls that are friends that I didn't try to sleep with, even when single. So i'd say its possible.
If one of them is unattractive, sure, they can be friends. I think a lot of people that believe they have platonic friendships aren't very close at all. They go on group outings now and again, but that doesn't signify much. If you're really that close to someone of the opposite sex, you stand a good chance of falling for them. Why do you think so many relationships begin as friendships and so many friendships fall apart because one likes the other? It's reality, folks. Don't live in a utopian bubble.mak2k wrote:Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That's too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
I'd say a good portion of my friends are pretty hot. My wife's friends too. I have a LOT of pretty girls as friends. How can you fall for everyone possibly? One of my friends who I am close to use to do car show modeling. She's young, hot, asian and single. We are very close. We never dated though. Of course it happens. I've dated people who started as friends. But it doesn't always happens. People aren't dogs.k_fan wrote:mak2k wrote:If one of them is unattractive, sure, they can be friends. I think a lot of people that believe they have platonic friendships aren't very close at all. They go on group outings now and again, but that doesn't signify much. If you're really that close to someone of the opposite sex, you stand a good chance of falling for them. Why do you think so many relationships begin as friendships and so many friendships fall apart because one likes the other? It's reality, folks. Don't live in a utopian bubble.Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That's too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
Not conquests, but perhaps women you weren't attracted to for one reason or another (e.g. not your type, different goals in life, maturity level, in a relationship, etc.) After all, if you were good friends and they were such great people and you were unattached, wouldn't you have pursued them?nikochanr3 wrote:if the only friends i had that were female were failed / unable conquests, that would be...kind of sad.
I agree with k_fan, maybe that is also one of the reason why most relationship start off as friends (if the feelings are mutual) and some off them end there (even if they say they are still friends, they can never be friends in the way as before).k_fan wrote:Not conquests, but perhaps women you weren't attracted to for one reason or another (e.g. not your type, different goals in life, maturity level, in a relationship, etc.) After all, if you were good friends and they were such great people and you were unattached, wouldn't you have pursued them?nikochanr3 wrote:if the only friends i had that were female were failed / unable conquests, that would be...kind of sad.
Are you saying you are not human? You must not be - or you are too young - if you don't comprehend the full genre of human emotions. Not everything is about s-e-x. I am as straight as they come and I do have beautiful female friends, but that doesn't mean I am attracted to every single one of them. I think it's the same for most people, although some might not want to admit it. Perhaps you haven't had enough experience to see the full sprectrum of human relationships.Horizon wrote:Men and Women can be friends but it will never be the same as a same sex friendship assuming both of you are straight, simple as that. You can ignore the male-female feelings but that doesn't mean they aren't there and no matter how much you ignore them they'll always influence your thinking, whether you like it or not, whether you notice or not. Nature never intended for males and females to be friends and that much i agree with, even though i have female friends. Frankly human society is silly to me, either be sexually promiscuous or not, one or the other; No in betweens, they just complicate matters.
i hope so too that not all guys are after sex, because that would be just a scary image for girls i suppose. a relationship with no real love and feelings but just a relationship containing out of plain sexmimmi wrote:ok, interesting posts....my two cents to share, someone was right, some relationships started out from friendships....and some friendships dissolved from getting into an intimate relationship or just from one of them suggesting to become intimate....
@ groink first post....the Chris Rock theory; not so true with some woman (about the glass thing)....I remember watching him when he said that on stage, he is a funny guy that makes you laugh.....@ your 2nd post....Isn't it that's when maturity comes in? Isn't it that's when a man suppose to be able to control his desire toward other female if he has somebody very special in his heart waiting for him? Isn't it that's what it mean to be a real man is to be able to control all emotions, (well, that's what the Islands saying for all men species)....so what happen to: to love, honor, and cherish....maybe that's for uncommited ones that are so horny like the bees, or are you saying, never trust a guy 'cause they're so horny, they don't have control over their emotion in that aspect, they act upon it....hmm, am I suppose to worry now?![]()
...sorry if I sound like preaching, but I'm not, I'm just wondering loudly to your posts
wow she must be very lucky to have you. i wish i could have such relationships with guys who fell for me but who i saw just as friends.Jeremiah wrote:Yes it's possible. I'm a living proof. I like her and she only like me as a friend and we are now best friends ever. We confide to each other our worries.
Some of the "it's not possible arguments" scare the s*** out of me! Are these people really out there walking around on the street and not locked up somewhere?!nikochanr3 wrote:Some of the "its not possible" arguments make me scratch my heads because i have very close female friends, and my wife has male friends, and they were our friends prior to us meeting each other, so the opportunity was there. There are some people you just dont feel that way toward. If you felt that way toward eveyrone, life wold be about impossible to deal with.
its called denial. Some guys (especially older ones) need to speak the talk since they cant walk it.pokute wrote:Some of the "it's not possible arguments" scare the s*** out of me! Are these people really out there walking around on the street and not locked up somewhere?!nikochanr3 wrote:Some of the "its not possible" arguments make me scratch my heads because i have very close female friends, and my wife has male friends, and they were our friends prior to us meeting each other, so the opportunity was there. There are some people you just dont feel that way toward. If you felt that way toward eveyrone, life wold be about impossible to deal with.
I had a friend who was an engineer at UNNAMED_LAB who got that kind of crap from a guy there... When she told me about it I started doing the same thing to HIM (I'm a guy) and the result was hilarious. There seems to be a considerable element of sexual identity insecurity involved in overly-agressive "manly" behaviour.nikochanr3 wrote:Some people are like that though. My wife's co-worker kept asking her out, and when she said no he finally said "But you talk to me. You don't like me? Why do you talk to me?"
i think that it doesn't even have to be sex that is added to a friendship. as soons as there are feelings involve that go further than friendship ( the want of more) can already change the situation. as long as both are still single it will need time to come to the former friendship (if that is still possible) but as soon as the one who has developed the feelings starts to get feelings for another then it will become possible again to be real friends who can go out with eachother and so on. but as long as he still has the feelings (even without having sex with the other person) the friendship will change and complicate the relationship. thats my opinion anywayrickt wrote:my vote goes to yes, it is possible to be just friends because that has always been my experience. I'm assuming being "friends" here meaning people that you hangout with, talk and/or confide to. and not what people refer to as "friends with benefit" like mentioned above. so yes, that is possible.
adding sex to friendship, with the opposite sex or not, always complicates the relationship more. so is it possible for a guy and a girl to be just friends after they've had sex? no, I believe not. unless they stop having sex with each other, or their "friendship" would never last long. sex is where I draw the line. I mean we don't live in the hippies era anymore. or else married couple can always refer to their affair partner as friends and that's cool with their family.
"oh mommy is having sex with her friend upstairs, and daddy is cleaning the bathroom"huh?
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