[Discussion] Dokushin Kizoku

jasminech · Post by **jasminech** » Nov 23rd, '13, 13:38

Dokushin Kizoku (独身貴族)

Information from the the jdrama blog and dramawiki.

Official Website
DramaWiki

Genre: Romantic Comedy
Broadcast network: Fuji TV
Broadcast period: 2013-Oct-10 start
Air time: Thursday 22:00

Cast:
Kusanagi Tsuyoshi as Hoshino Mamoru
Kitagawa Keiko as Haruno Yuki
Ito Hideaki as Hoshino Susumu
Fujigaya Taisuke as Kawagoe Yuta
Renbutsu Misako as Ogata Sumika
Hiraiwa Kami as Genozono Reiko
Nishihara Aki as Obara Saori
Sasai Eisuke as Kobayashi Seiji

English subs can be found here!

I couldn't find a discussion thread for this drama yet so I thought I would start one.

I am actually quite enjoying this drama more than I thought I would! I wasn't too fond of Tsuyoshi's character at first but it grew on me sooooo quickly! I was quite surprised that beneath all that initial talk that Mamoru was such a kind, honest and genuine person! Also, I love Kitagawa Keiko as Haruno Yuki - I think she is always so pretty in whatever roles she plays, though.

Also, I have just watched episode 7 andddd....

7mi12 · Post by **7mi12** » Nov 23rd, '13, 13:52

awww I also like this drama. I'm big fan of Keiko, and... when I saw Yuki-Susumu's relationship here, it reminded me with Buzzer Beat (so I re-watch only Riko-Kawasaki's scene).

I thought Yuki will ended up with Mamoru (they had more chemistry, I think). But I admitted that she also had "special connection" with Susumu, like... empathy and admire?

Don't know. Just watch it until the end!

I haven't watch eps7 yet, maybe next week...

I wonder how many episodes this drama will take?

yanie · Post by **yanie** » Nov 26th, '13, 03:21

Mamoru/Reiko shipper here

Reiko reminds me so much of Nodame (Nodame Cantabile) and Kotoko (Itazura na Kiss). And just like Chiaki & Naoki, Mamoru always show annoyed face but in the end he let Reiko hang out around him. I love the Yamanote Line scenes, that's hillarious

I like Yuki too, but Kitagawa Keiko lacks acting skill, she has good chemistry with the younger actors, but I feel like something doesn't click when she's with Tsuyoshi.

Well, anyway I've talked a lot abt my opinions on the ending of Ep7 here:
http://yanie02.livejournal.com/210736.html
http://yanie02.livejournal.com/211040.html (with fan-made animated pictures)

Btw, am I the only who really dig the old western movie BGMs??? I loooove them! Currently compiling them... I will share them later^^ I love the BGMs from The Sting (1973) and the Forrest Gump theme made me cry T_T

I think it'll be 11 episodes, I don't see any reason to cut it down to 9 or 10. The average rating is only 10-12% but it has loyal viewers.

jasminech · Post by **jasminech** » Nov 26th, '13, 13:52

I was just searching through some old files on my external hard drive and I found clip on SMAPXSMAP with Tsuyoshi and Kitagawa Keiko - google "clownish love actually". They looked so awkward haha!

7mi12 · Post by **7mi12** » Nov 26th, '13, 14:10

I already watched eps 7!

OMG YamaP appeared!!!! It's Buzzer Beat Reunion!!! >,<

jasminech · Post by **jasminech** » Dec 1st, '13, 15:12

I have just seen episode 8 and the...

yanie · Post by **yanie** » Dec 6th, '13, 03:46

Question #Episode 9#

Spoiler #Episode 10#

7mi12 · Post by **7mi12** » Dec 6th, '13, 04:56

yanie wrote:Question #Episode 9#

When Reiko's father said "It's still not too late for you to turn back now... coz I don't want to see Reiko's sad face". Does this mean he allowed Mamoru not to marry Reiko but he'd still fund "August Bolero" production? Or does this mean if Mamoru turn back, he'd cancel his intention to fund the film?

It just seem everyone seem to remind him that marrying Reiko is not the right choice, but he is so stubborn about it.

I hope there's some good explanation why Mamoru is being so stubborn about marrying Reiko. Coz for now, it doesn't seem he enjoy spending time with Reiko that much. Or that's just simply his weird way in expressing his love for Yuki? I cannot accept a reason as simple as "If I don't marry Reiko, Haruno Yuki will be so crushed if August Bolero project failed". So what, if Haruno experience failure in her writing career? People have to experience failure once or twice to be successful.

Spoiler #Episode 10#

More over, in the next episode preview, seem like Reiko disappeared on the wedding day, and then the next day, Mamoru came all the way to Reiko's house, asking her father to convince Reiko, that everything is alright and Reiko have nothing to worry about. But Reiko's father plead Mamoru "For now please just let me take care of Reiko"... sounds like Reiko's father is begging Mamoru, not to make Reiko suffer more than this.

Why is he fighting for someone that he don't sincerely love? And pretty much making no effort in pursuing someone he sincerely love?

I think this is why it's best for him to stay "dokushin kizoku" (swinging single) at the end

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

your spoiler made me eager to watch the two last episodes!!!
*just 10 episodes, right? or more?*

funderfurby · Post by **funderfurby** » Dec 6th, '13, 05:00

Moon River~ they only use the Audrey Hepburn version, like 3 times? which she did only in Breakfast at Tiffanies not on the record release. And then finally Haruno and Mamoru sing it, almost inaudibly. Which expresses the characters' repressed relationship all too well, it was painful.

jasminech · Post by **jasminech** » Dec 6th, '13, 12:45

yanie wrote:Question #Episode 9#

When Reiko's father said "It's still not too late for you to turn back now... coz I don't want to see Reiko's sad face". Does this mean he allowed Mamoru not to marry Reiko but he'd still fund "August Bolero" production? Or does this mean if Mamoru turn back, he'd cancel his intention to fund the film?

It just seem everyone seem to remind him that marrying Reiko is not the right choice, but he is so stubborn about it.

I hope there's some good explanation why Mamoru is being so stubborn about marrying Reiko. Coz for now, it doesn't seem he enjoy spending time with Reiko that much. Or that's just simply his weird way in expressing his love for Yuki? I cannot accept a reason as simple as "If I don't marry Reiko, Haruno Yuki will be so crushed if August Bolero project failed". So what, if Haruno experience failure in her writing career? People have to experience failure once or twice to be successful.

Well, about your second point;

yanie · Post by **yanie** » Dec 6th, '13, 17:43

#Shocked#Ep10 Spoiler#
source: synopsis from official website

jasminech · Post by **jasminech** » Dec 7th, '13, 12:08

Hmmm, the dramawiki says 11 episodes?

cute_angel · Post by **cute_angel** » Dec 12th, '13, 08:38

Currently watching this series and I like it!

Kei-chan!

yanie · Post by **yanie** » Dec 13th, '13, 10:07

Preview for Ep11. LOL.

Well, anyway, glad to know Yamapi will appear again in the final episode. And seems like this time he has more screentime, since the "August Bolero" filming has started.

sensei991 · Post by **sensei991** » Dec 16th, '13, 03:44

I am now anxiously awaiting ep11 to see how this ends.

The spoilers on the official site do not seem to offer any definitive clues.

I wonder how much of the Hollywood music (My Fair Lady, Smile, Moon River, etc) and references to movies like Sleepless in Seattle the Japanese audience can appreciate.

ailahai · Post by **ailahai** » Dec 18th, '13, 23:27

Still watching until ep8... and dont mind to read all the spoilers here :p

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funderfurby · Post by **funderfurby** » Dec 19th, '13, 02:15

I hope the tv audience in Japan gets the Hollywood musical references because there doesn't seem to be a lot of people watching it elsewhere from the stats I see in my client (or maybe I've been choosing the least popular version for each episode).

yanie · Post by **yanie** » Dec 19th, '13, 02:18

General opinion, but just in case, I'll put them is spoiler tags

Don't worry, this drama has many loyal Japanese fans (thus the steady ratings of 10-12%), and from some comments I saw, they love the old western BGMs. And someone even compiled the BGM list used in this drama: http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2138323681368497101

sensei991 · Post by **sensei991** » Dec 19th, '13, 13:04

We'll see how this ends in the next few days.

@yanie: Your comment about dramas where the male and female leads do not end up together (without deaths) got me trying to remember others. Among the older ones, Egao no Hosoku and Over Time come to mind. More recent ones include Soredemo, Ikite Yuku and Jin. One could make a case for Last Cinderella, Itsuka Hi no Ataru Basho de and perhaps Dinner (although there was never a real romance there). I'm sure that there are others, but your point that they are few and far between stands.

Looking at the BGM list, I have to say that I did not recognize several of the pieces myself. So the Japanese viewing audience seems to be more knowledgeable than I am.

ailahai · Post by **ailahai** » Dec 23rd, '13, 09:25

it's ended finally... thanks for fast subs by akamiso

7mi12 · Post by **7mi12** » Dec 23rd, '13, 09:57

ailahai wrote:it's ended finally... thanks for fast subs by akamiso

the story is just too cliche, even the ending...just thinkin' if Mamoru san is really exist in reality, would be good if he can through the drama's script... so it'll more satisfying

and the last episode rating is the lowest : 9.6%

sensei991 · Post by **sensei991** » Dec 23rd, '13, 18:01

Reaction to the finale -

cute_angel · Post by **cute_angel** » Dec 26th, '13, 08:39

Done watching this drama.

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Jan 22nd, '14, 18:46

Hi

I liked a lot of things about the drama. The characters seemed mature enough, and had a great chemistry between each others. The music and the "script development" story was amazing... The only and probably the most disappointing thing about the drama was:

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Jan 22nd, '14, 18:47

sensei991 wrote:Reaction to the finale -

So the male and female leads do end up together after several false endings. And Reiko is the one to slap some sense into Mamoru. Poor guy, he took a lot of physical and verbal abuse, but then again he deserved it.

The scenes with Mamoru and Yuki embracing seemed stiff and forced to me. I suppose the producers were trying to keep Mamoru in character, but after he confessed earlier that he loses his ability to make calm decisions when with Yuki , we would hope that he will be a bit more impulsive and romantic., maybe wearing a Tom Hanks mask. Simply saying ‘ you are a very important person to me’ comes off as pretty lame.

For me, the story development had interesting twists and turns, but the last episode was flat and disappointing.. It should have ended with Mamoru and Yuki having fun together.

I totally agree!

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Jan 22nd, '14, 18:50

yanie wrote: I love the BGMs from The Sting (1973) and the Forrest Gump theme made me cry T_T

hmm which theme was from Forrest Gump?

yanie · Post by **yanie** » Jan 23rd, '14, 03:20

MisS Lonliah wrote:
yanie wrote: I love the BGMs from The Sting (1973) and the Forrest Gump theme made me cry T_T
hmm which theme was from Forrest Gump?

The scene where Mamoru proposed Reiko in the hospital.

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Jan 26th, '14, 15:58

yanie wrote:
MisS Lonliah wrote:
yanie wrote: I love the BGMs from The Sting (1973) and the Forrest Gump theme made me cry T_T
hmm which theme was from Forrest Gump?
The scene where Mamoru proposed Reiko in the hospital.

Ahaa~ Thanks for your reply

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