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[Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 15th, '18, 18:35
by Keiko1981
Swedish news "Rapport" just had a segment about the filming of upcoming taiga drama Idaten. :shocked:

Segment starts at 20:49 min
Can be seen worldwide until August 22nd 2018.

Title: Rapport
Broadcast date: 2018-Aug-15
Broadcast network: SVT1
Air time: Wednesday 19:30

Summary of what was said
That the story of the Japanese marathon runner Kanakuri Shiso who "went missing" during the Olympic Games 1912 in Stockholm will become a drama series. He didn't register that he canceled the marathon (probably due to the heat), there he was considered "missing."

Short interview with director Inoue Tsuyoshi and main actor Nakamura Kankuro.

Nakamura Kankuro was asked how well known Kanakuri Shiso is in Japan.
He answered that he's 36 years old, but he don't think that many people younger than him knows of Kankuro, except those who are into the sport.

What wasn't said
They didn't say specifically that it was Idaten, or that it will air on NHK, but I could figure it out by the rest of what was said. Big budget historical drama that will air for one year on a Japanese channel equal to SVT (state run TV network) = NHK.

And little help from Jdrama Weblog. :)

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https://jdramas.wordpress.com/2018/05/22/upcoming-winter-2019-dramas/

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 15th, '18, 21:25
by Ginto-gin
Great segment! In the clip, is the filming on location in Stockholm? This really makes my day. Thanks again for sharing :-)

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 15th, '18, 21:33
by Keiko1981
Ginto-gin wrote:Great segment! In the clip, is the filming on location in Stockholm? This really makes my day. Thanks again for sharing :-)
Yes, film crew is in Stockholm. I'm not very familiar with the city myself, I live way up north myself. But I've been there a couple of times.

Just a heads up if anyone is going to sub it and there's Swedish parts. :) Just send a PM and I can help.

The first half tells the story of marathon runner Kanakuri Shiso (Nakamura Kankuro), who became one of the first Japanese nationals to participate in the Olympics in Stockholm in 1912. The second half features Tabata Masaji (Abe Sadao), the coach who laid the foundations of Japanese swimming and helped bring the games to Tokyo for the first time in 1964. -- Jdrama Weblog

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 17th, '18, 12:47
by Avallac'h
Story is intersting enough and writer is Kudo Kankuro.
But I have doubts about future taiga anyway.
Not sure if will be fit for the taiga format.
I would be good movie, or SP, or may be shorter dorama.
But 50 episodes... Okay, even 25 for both characters seems too long for me.

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 17th, '18, 13:24
by Keiko1981
Avallac'h wrote:Story is intersting enough and writer is Kudo Kankuro.
But I have doubts about future taiga anyway.
Not sure if will be fit for the taiga format.
I would be good movie, or SP, or may be shorter dorama.
But 50 episodes... Okay, even 25 for both characters seems too long for me.
Yeah, a special or regular drama would be enough.
And too modern for a taiga drama.

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 17th, '18, 19:01
by Ginto-gin
Even with the declining quality of taiga dramas, I'd like to remain optimistic about Idaten. Kudo Kankuro is a master at bringing cohesion in storytelling. There's got to be enough material for him to work with and stretch because of recorded history and footage. Perhaps introduce other athletes or individuals who were notable at the time. I'm also looking forward to the rakugo :thumright:

Btw it's not the first time taiga drama is set in modern, post-war period-- there were "Sangya Moyu" (1984) and "Inochi" (1986) that I wish I could watch today.

Keiko1981, I'm quite impressed that some scenes are being filmed on location! I'm sure I'll have questions for you about all things Swedish when the show airs :-)

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 17th, '18, 20:39
by Keiko1981
Ginto-gin wrote:Btw it's not the first time taiga drama is set in modern, post-war period-- there were "Sangya Moyu" (1984) and "Inochi" (1986) that I wish I could watch today.

Keiko1981, I'm quite impressed that some scenes are being filmed on location! I'm sure I'll have questions for you about all things Swedish when the show airs :-)
Inochi is more like a compact asadora. :)

Just ask if you have any questions and I'll try to answer them the best I can.

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 17th, '18, 21:34
by Ginto-gin
Keiko1981 wrote:Inochi is more like a compact asadora. :)
Oh right, you're providing translations for Inochi :doh: good to know, thanks :D

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Jan 15th, '19, 13:11
by Avallac'h
There will be no official English subtitles for Idaten.

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http://kikutv.com/2019-taiga-drama-and-oshin/

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Aug 17th, '19, 21:47
by tokaiz
I'm not watching the drama, but I'm curious… is it *that* bad? The ratings seem to be a disaster (lower than 6% now) for a Taiga drama. Can't be all related to this one actor's drug problem?

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Oct 31st, '19, 22:21
by Ginto-gin
I highly doubt that *that* is the only reason. Inasmuch as it pains me to say this, Taiga drama ratings have been in steady decline for years now. Some problems cited are: poor scriptwriting/'dumbing down' the historical aspect of the story; lower production values; casting popular albeit inexperienced 'idols' in lead roles vs. seasoned actors; etc.

I would also add that entertainment options are varied and more accessible now than before. We can watch on different media platforms, on mobile devices, through on-demand streaming, or download for offline viewing, etc. Gone are the days when families gathered around the television set on a Sunday night to watch the next episode of their beloved Taiga drama, on the same day at the same time.
tokaiz wrote: Aug 17th, '19, 21:47 I'm not watching the drama, but I'm curious… is it *that* bad? The ratings seem to be a disaster (lower than 6% now) for a Taiga drama. Can't be all related to this one actor's drug problem?

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Nov 9th, '19, 05:56
by Man_Chair
Currently in the middle of watching this and it's alot of fun. Have the subtitles been halted on ep.20?

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Nov 9th, '19, 08:31
by Keiko1981
Man_Chair wrote: Nov 9th, '19, 05:56 Currently in the middle of watching this and it's alot of fun. Have the subtitles been halted on ep.20?
No. Read the subber's blog.

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Nov 10th, '19, 07:57
by Man_Chair
Epic

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Jan 31st, '22, 18:06
by aniwon
I'm trying to find Eng subs for Inochi (1986) can someone plz help? I've seen it a while back but can't pull it up for some reason

Re: [Discussion] Idaten

Posted: Jan 31st, '22, 21:24
by Keiko1981
aniwon wrote: Jan 31st, '22, 18:06 I'm trying to find Eng subs for Inochi (1986) can someone plz help? I've seen it a while back but can't pull it up for some reason
Off-topic. Check your PM inbox.