Hey fellow pinay! G'yea! Very good point!
Whatever Tsukasa did in epi 5 [btw, I have a very good idea of what has happened, I'm picturing it now, thanx to your descriptions! (no sarcasm there btw
)] is something that had to be done in order to make, like you said, the audience think twice about who's more suitable for Tsukushi. Geez..
Did you watch the 5th episode already? If so, I'd like to know if you're still of the same opinion. I've never seen so many people being of divited opinions as in this episode I think. Well the 6th episode might come pretty close to it though.
Oh btw, a friend will be taking off to the Fillies tomorrow. I've still gotta ask her if there's a Hanadan hype right now. Hehehe.
That´s what I think too, Kat! We agree on so many things, don´t we?
But about Sakurako, I just think it would a bit strange if Doumyouji suddenly decided to believe Tsukushi, since he was quite shocked and see you were "betrayed" is really one thing that makes you lose your mind. So, I think it wasn´t so dumb at all when Sakurako spelled it out for Doumyouji.
Too many things, it's scary!
You're right about Sakurako. It would be really strange indeed. As I said it worked out perfectly in the drama. It's not what I expected or wanted but it all makes sense as it is. As for me, a betrayal is like the worst thing anyone can do to the one he or she cares for which is why I might be overly jealous myself. Ohhh I had some bad, reeeeally bad fights over the silliest things simply out of jealousy, so I DEFINITELY understand Doumyouji. ^^;;
slippyepic wrote: Yeah, that's my point of view too. As you said, Kamio hadn't decided who she wanted for Makino. Good that we agree on something!
Oh, I think we agreed on many things before. ^_~
I don't think that the F4 or Doumyouji in particular wasn't capable of it before but she simply didn't want them to help her out since they were the cause of her loneliness in the first place. I think many lines cannot be taken as examples without considering the context.
Right, but that is indeed the context that I'm speaking about. The F4 were the cause of her loneliness, or at least they were the device that her too-rich world used to isolate her. Makino was a popular girl in her old school. whereas here she mostly couldn't afford friends here.
Aw, you might have noticed I deleted this part right away. It seemed so wrong somehow. I really do have my problems explaining my point in English. Grr... Well, what I actually wanted to say is that it's more due to Tsukushi's pride that she's always running away from Doumyouji. She loves him but she hates him at the same time (which I really understand sometimes as he can really be a jerk), and that makes things rather complicated. On the one hand she knows she can trust him and rely on him but on the other hand she doesn't want to admit it to herself as she was once challenged to a fight and challenged him back herself, so giving in to accepting his love would be like losing the game. That's what I think.
In this particular case (referring to Junpei) it wasn't exactly like she was looking for A friend but for making friends with her classmates, thus having a relaxed school life like Yuuki has. Even though she probably got used to the people at Eitoku she still wishes for classmates she feels at ease with. She does have a friend in Kazuya after all, and she sort of has in Sakurako. So it wasn't like Junpei was her saviour out of loniless or anything. I remember when he asked her to be friends she even said something like: "This is not exactly what I wanted." In other words she really only wished for some silly girl friends whom she can chat with before class or something. Hence Doumyouji could have been oh so great, he could've never given her what she longed for as he's not a girl.
I was actually ambivalent about this part of the storyline; I think Kamio took into a uncomfortable dark direction, which upset the tone of the overall storyline.
I think you're taking things too seriously. The golden rule in analyzing a story is to first analyze if it's worth being analyzed at all, so to say.
Hana yori Dango is just a long continuation Shoujo Manga with no such deep meaning to it, I think. I'm sure Kamio-sensei wanted to depict various, very important things such as Doumyouji's "hungry love" as you called it earlier, that turned into obsession, also the class differences and bullying at school. But each of it all is only like a puzzle piece of an image that I BET Kamio-sensei didn't have a clue of what it looks like before she came close to finish the manga. Such supporting characters as Junpei and Kin-san were only to keep the story going.
But of course I perfectly agree with you in one point - Shigeru is like an upper-class version of Tsukushi. I don't think though that she had to be like that so that Tsukushi eventually made up her mind. It was only because they are alike that Doumyouji agreed to date her. If she wasn't as cheeky and independent and strong, he'd probably never even considered talking to her again. And well... Don't you think it's pretty much true that people always want what they can't get? With Shigeru's appearance, Tsukushi had to consider losing him for the first time, so it had to be that Shigeru and Doumyouji have some sort of relationship.
That said, Shigeru was my favorite character in the whole story. I adored her. IF they wanted to do a 2nd season, Shigeru -- a Shigeru true to the manga, that is -- would be the first thing on my want list.
Oh yeah. That's what I hope for.
I also feel kind of sorry with her because more than anyone she seems to long for love. Even though she seems to have rather warm and loving parents she appears kind of lonely to me but still she's always smiling and wishing the best for her friends. She really is adorable.
(remember when they are at shigeru's summer house the day after he supposedly slept with shigeru? she even missed their fights.)
That's not what I was saying. I said she missed their fights, thus she doesn't long for comfort or peace but for HIM, just the way he is.
That aside I do think she had a reason to dislike Shigeru. It's only natural for human beings to be like that in situations like that, isn't it? ^^;;
Btw, you previously asked me if I was a film student. Since I'm always in a hurry when reading and responding to posts I kind of seemed to have misunderstood you, I guess. However, to answer your question, I'm a media studies major which also has many referrences to film studies. It was only yesterday when I had a "DOGMA 95" seminar the WHOLE day. My head still feels kind of numb. ^^;;