[Discussion] Byakuyakou
Yeah, Ep 5 was another crazy one! I've never seen a drama where the lead characters mentally/emotionally hurt each other so much. All the crimes, sin, and guilt just keep on piling up and piling up it's almost mindblowing.
Like I said before, it's horrible but you can't help but be entranced by it! BTW, this is one movie I could NOT recommend to everyone, like anyone young. The themes are far too mature and adult oriented.
Like I said before, it's horrible but you can't help but be entranced by it! BTW, this is one movie I could NOT recommend to everyone, like anyone young. The themes are far too mature and adult oriented.
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In a bizarre way, I sympathize with Yukiho in episode 5.
She knows she is wrong, and yet she can't help herself. So she'll do what's necessary to get the deed done.
But then after getting it done, she feels remorse. So she hurts those around her to distance them from her, so that she won't involve them in the future. But that just causes more pain for herself, sigh.
And poor Ryoji, he's just not fully mature yet, also in pain and in love and can't help but be tossed around by all this stuff.
It's just so painful.
She knows she is wrong, and yet she can't help herself. So she'll do what's necessary to get the deed done.
But then after getting it done, she feels remorse. So she hurts those around her to distance them from her, so that she won't involve them in the future. But that just causes more pain for herself, sigh.
And poor Ryoji, he's just not fully mature yet, also in pain and in love and can't help but be tossed around by all this stuff.
It's just so painful.
So does Detective Sasagaki, he just wants to give her the counseling inside prisonvtx wrote:whew, after watching ep 5, i seriously think yukiho needs to have some mental counselling... . She had too much childhood trauma...
Very painful for both of them... Ryoji just keeps sinking into darkness because of her...
wow, just found out there's a sequel(??) to the byakuyakou novel called gennya (幻夜). It's about what happens to yukiho after that... The website below states it could be a sequel although they are two different chars in both novels,there are similarities in both the heroines. It also speculates maybe yukiho who changed her name and went for facial surgery?! Anyone read both the novels before? Please spoil me!
Gennya is Byakuyakou's sequel? (in japanese)
http://from1985.pekori.to/keigotaku/bya ... u_gen.html
Gennya is Byakuyakou's sequel? (in japanese)
http://from1985.pekori.to/keigotaku/bya ... u_gen.html
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Actually the author, Higashino Keigo, says that he didn't want it to be a sequel. But he made it so that those who read both can argue among themselves whether Genya is a sequel or not.vtx wrote:wow, just found out there's a sequel(??) to the byakuyakou novel called gennya (幻夜). It's about what happens to yukiho after that... The website below states it could be a sequel although they are two different chars in both novels,there are similarities in both the heroines. It also speculates maybe yukiho who changed her name and went for facial surgery?! Anyone read both the novels before? Please spoil me!
Gennya is Byakuyakou's sequel? (in japanese)
http://from1985.pekori.to/keigotaku/bya ... u_gen.html
So the answer is, yes it can be a sequel, especially since there is various evidence to make you think that Yukiho assumes the identity of another person after the Kobe earthquake. But it can also be a standalone, where someone else assumes the identity of the said person after the earthquake. It's not made clear.
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There are Chinese subs out for Episode 5, both TVBT and Subpig release their subs within 24 hours after the airing in Japan.suparstarx wrote:Ahhhhhh my head is spinning after ep5!
There's no Chinese subs out for Ep5 yet, even so my Chinese isn't good enough to decipher much anyhow. I went on to skim around Ep5 ..
http://www.tvbt.com.cn/
For the spoilers:
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Ummm...suparstarx wrote:Possible you can link the thread where they put up subtitles? My Chinese is horrible.
If your Chinese is so horrible, wouldn't downloading the drama with Chinese subtitles be worthless for you?
They're not soft-subs, they're in RMVB (PRC is not big on softsubs and neither am I). So you'll need to grab the whole file. They're in Traditional Chinese although some of the characters are in Simplified (due to typing errors, I think).
http://www.tvbt.com.cn/viewthread.php?t ... a=page%3D1
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I can make out a few words, it's better than guessing the situation without any subtitles.seneschal wrote:Ummm...suparstarx wrote:Possible you can link the thread where they put up subtitles? My Chinese is horrible.
If your Chinese is so horrible, wouldn't downloading the drama with Chinese subtitles be worthless for you?
They're not soft-subs, they're in RMVB (PRC is not big on softsubs and neither am I). So you'll need to grab the whole file. They're in Traditional Chinese although some of the characters are in Simplified (due to typing errors, I think).
http://www.tvbt.com.cn/viewthread.php?t ... a=page%3D1
That's exactly like me..omg..lolsuparstarx wrote:I can make out a few words, it's better than guessing the situation without any subtitles.seneschal wrote:Ummm...suparstarx wrote:Possible you can link the thread where they put up subtitles? My Chinese is horrible.
If your Chinese is so horrible, wouldn't downloading the drama with Chinese subtitles be worthless for you?
They're not soft-subs, they're in RMVB (PRC is not big on softsubs and neither am I). So you'll need to grab the whole file. They're in Traditional Chinese although some of the characters are in Simplified (due to typing errors, I think).
http://www.tvbt.com.cn/viewthread.php?t ... a=page%3D1
I can make out a few words, it's better than guessing the situation without any subtitles.[/quote]Demiwing wrote:
That's exactly like me..omg..lol[/quote]
I think this will be a tough dorama for you guys to figure out with the language issue...
Even a native Japanese speaker/listener would have a hard time getting all the plot development. The series moves the plot along too fast and assume the viewer's understanding of what's going on.
1280 X 720 Byakuyakou
Does anyone know where we can find the 1280 x 720 version of the AVI on Bittorrent?
I saw on the Chinese sites that it's available on emule, but it takes forever to download it (queue was 40 long but not moving).
I'd like to see how well it shows on my plasma HDTV.
magnet:?xt=urn:ed2khash:dab02e9e4c8d638bd4620e479157a055&dn=%5B%E7%99%BD%E5%A4%9C%E8%A1%8C%5D%5BByakuyakou%5D%5B1280x720%5D%5BDivX%5D%5B01%5D.avi
I saw on the Chinese sites that it's available on emule, but it takes forever to download it (queue was 40 long but not moving).
I'd like to see how well it shows on my plasma HDTV.
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Wow, that's interesting... thanks! Wish i knew Japanese well enough to read those novels... very intriguing so far. I also read somewhere the author was initially reluctant and had to be persuaded several times before he allowed Byakuyakou to be dramatized. Guess we not seeing Genya not anytime soon tooPrince of Moles wrote:
Actually the author, Higashino Keigo, says that he didn't want it to be a sequel. But he made it so that those who read both can argue among themselves whether Genya is a sequel or not.
So the answer is, yes it can be a sequel, especially since there is various evidence to make you think that Yukiho assumes the identity of another person after the Kobe earthquake. But it can also be a standalone, where someone else assumes the identity of the said person after the earthquake. It's not made clear.
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Kinda reminds me of In The Mood For Love and 2046, where both stories involved characters with the same names but they weren't the same exact people in both stories.vtx wrote:Wow, that's interesting... thanks! Wish i knew Japanese well enough to read those novels... very intriguing so far. I also read somewhere the author was initially reluctant and had to be persuaded several times before he allowed Byakuyakou to be dramatized. Guess we not seeing Genya not anytime soon tooPrince of Moles wrote:
Actually the author, Higashino Keigo, says that he didn't want it to be a sequel. But he made it so that those who read both can argue among themselves whether Genya is a sequel or not.
So the answer is, yes it can be a sequel, especially since there is various evidence to make you think that Yukiho assumes the identity of another person after the Kobe earthquake. But it can also be a standalone, where someone else assumes the identity of the said person after the earthquake. It's not made clear.
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Re: 1280 X 720 Byakuyakou
seneschal wrote:Does anyone know where we can find the 1280 x 720 version of the AVI on Bittorrent?
I saw on the Chinese sites that it's available on emule, but it takes forever to download it (queue was 40 long but not moving).
I'd like to see how well it shows on my plasma HDTV.
Am I and totally misunderstanding the questions?suparstarx wrote:Possible you can link the thread where they put up subtitles? My Chinese is horrible.
The 1280x720 version can be easily found here at d-addicts every week about 3 days after airing...
This version also includes Chinese softsubs, so it's my fave version
Tho I don't know where the guy get it from tho
Also, you can go to my post to find all the sub threads for all the jdramas series of this season ... it's pretty up to date
Dont know if this is already posted or not but..
oh my gosh, so shocking, I'm not really a fan of Yamada but his idol image in me really collapses . Wonder if this will affect his career, but I do hope he does sth about this. Just imagine how the child would grow up knowing he's an illegitimate child
From : http://www.japan-zone.com/news/Yamada's Hidden Child
Popular actor Yamada Takayuki (photo, 22) is the father of an illegitimate child, it was revealed this week. The star of the current TBS drama "Byaku Yakou" and the 2003 Fuji TV hit "Waterboys" became a father last October. The 22-year-old mother of the "kakushigo" (hidden child) is said to be raising the baby at her family home. Yamada is providing full financial support for the child.
oh my gosh, so shocking, I'm not really a fan of Yamada but his idol image in me really collapses . Wonder if this will affect his career, but I do hope he does sth about this. Just imagine how the child would grow up knowing he's an illegitimate child
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^ I agree... let's try to keep the discussion here on the series...
Besides, there's a whole thread that's been started for that topic already:
http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29217
And when things quiet down eventually, I'll probably merge that into his Fan thread....
Besides, there's a whole thread that's been started for that topic already:
http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29217
And when things quiet down eventually, I'll probably merge that into his Fan thread....
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Re: 1280 X 720 Byakuyakou
Thanks! I had the "raw" filtered out of my Torrent screen so I didn't see it!auroragb wrote:The 1280x720 version can be easily found here at d-addicts every week about 3 days after airing...
This version also includes Chinese softsubs, so it's my fave version
Tho I don't know where the guy get it from tho
Also, you can go to my post to find all the sub threads for all the jdramas series of this season ... it's pretty up to date
Thanks for the pointer!
It's just going downhill from ep 1Prince of Moles wrote:Oh man, I just finished watching ep 6.
Crime and sin overlayed on crime and sin. They just keep sinking deeper and deeper, it's just too brutal.
It's not that it's always daylight. "The Night" has been taken away from them.
Gonna watch ep 6 now... Hoping for more shocking revelations.
Wah, a 30 second commercial for this drama has a pricetag of $224,119 US Dollars.
It is 3rd highest this season behind Rondo and Saiyuuki.
1. Saiyuuki $269,000 US Dollars
2. Rondo $233,000 US Dollars
3. Byakuyakou $224,000 US Dollars
figures in Taiwan Dollars
[img]http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1301/gn09018ba.jpg[/img]
Source: Taiwan Appledaily
It is 3rd highest this season behind Rondo and Saiyuuki.
1. Saiyuuki $269,000 US Dollars
2. Rondo $233,000 US Dollars
3. Byakuyakou $224,000 US Dollars
figures in Taiwan Dollars
[img]http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1301/gn09018ba.jpg[/img]
Source: Taiwan Appledaily
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For me, episode 2,3 is a torture because I don't understand a single bit of what the drama is talking about... But luckily in episode 4, I caught up with the plot though there were some parts which I still did not understand... Like where on earth or who on earth was Matsuura? LOL.
Episode 5 was nice, and Yukiho was so wicked! I pitied Ryouji too..
In the end, I forgave Yukiho because during the last few minutes of the drama, she said "gomen ne ryo"...
Episode 6 was also sad, because of the words Matsuura said to Ryouji kills him and the night with traces of sun... And the part when Ryouji shows Yukiho the film, and realised that Ryouji killed Matsuura and said, "I was the one who killed him"... Yamada Takayuki's acting is SO impressive!
Can anyone tell me in episode 6, what was Ryouji telling his friend on the phone such that when the police officer came, his friend told him that there was another person - Ryo living with him????
Episode 5 was nice, and Yukiho was so wicked! I pitied Ryouji too..
In the end, I forgave Yukiho because during the last few minutes of the drama, she said "gomen ne ryo"...
Episode 6 was also sad, because of the words Matsuura said to Ryouji kills him and the night with traces of sun... And the part when Ryouji shows Yukiho the film, and realised that Ryouji killed Matsuura and said, "I was the one who killed him"... Yamada Takayuki's acting is SO impressive!
Can anyone tell me in episode 6, what was Ryouji telling his friend on the phone such that when the police officer came, his friend told him that there was another person - Ryo living with him????
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Ryoji tells his friend to do exactly as he says.
Which must have been to clean out the apartment they were renting, and to leave the cops a hint that Ryoji was still alive.
Since I haven't read the book I don't know what will happen from this point onwards (except that Ryoji will die, as depicted in ep 1), but my guess is that Ryoji is doing this to confuse the cops.
Which must have been to clean out the apartment they were renting, and to leave the cops a hint that Ryoji was still alive.
Since I haven't read the book I don't know what will happen from this point onwards (except that Ryoji will die, as depicted in ep 1), but my guess is that Ryoji is doing this to confuse the cops.
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Hmm,and i thought Ryoji just told him he will be acting alone from now on... Im gonna download the chinese sub soon to understand more...Prince of Moles wrote:Ryojo tells his friend to do exactly as he says.
Which must have been to clean out the apartment they were renting, and to leave the cops a hint that Ryoji was still alive.
Since I haven't read the book I don't know what will happen from this point onwards (except that Ryoji will die, as depicted in ep 1), but my guess is that Ryoji is doing this to confuse the cops.
Re: 1280 X 720 Byakuyakou
Hi, I downloaded the 1280x720 versions. I couldn't really tell the difference from the RMVB non-HD versions?!?auroragb wrote:The 1280x720 version can be easily found here at d-addicts every week about 3 days after airing...
My plasma is 1024 X 768 so maybe it got scaled down, but I guess a lot of it is due to the ditherization that occurs during fast-moving scenes with divx 5.1...
I watch on a 1280x1024 monitor. So, when the 704x396 version is scaled, I can see artifacts even on slow frames (tho it's still pretty good). But, in the 1280 version, it's very sharp. If you are using media player classic , maybe you can try use the 'video frame'-> 'normal size option on the 1280 and double size on the 704 version and see what it looks like.seneschal wrote:Hi, I downloaded the 1280x720 versions. I couldn't really tell the difference from the RMVB non-HD versions?!?auroragb wrote:The 1280x720 version can be easily found here at d-addicts every week about 3 days after airing...
My plasma is 1024 X 768 so maybe it got scaled down, but I guess a lot of it is due to the ditherization that occurs during fast-moving scenes with divx 5.1...
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I'm kind of slow. I just watched episode 5 and the show turned out to be one of my favourites. I stopped watching when SARS announced they were doing the hardsubs which was when ep 3 came out I think. However as I was too impatient I threw yet another look into the third episode and I got so totally hooked. Honestly, I thought Takayuki was a marvelous actor before (especially in Sekachu and Dragon Head) but this time he made me go absolutely nuts about him. I wonder, is it the role that makes him so hot or is it simply because he's grown up? Gee, I feel like giving Yukiho a good punch when I see how she treats a gorgeous man like him! Anyways, I'm in the middle of downloading the other 3 episodes that are out.
Please hurry SARS, as I understand only like 50 % of the dialogues which can be FRUSTRATING when you see the characters' shocked expressions and you don't have the slightest clue what scared them like that. *sigh*
Oh, I gotta go to bed already. Just felt like throwing in my two cents worth.
Yah, neways... Cheerio.
Please hurry SARS, as I understand only like 50 % of the dialogues which can be FRUSTRATING when you see the characters' shocked expressions and you don't have the slightest clue what scared them like that. *sigh*
Oh, I gotta go to bed already. Just felt like throwing in my two cents worth.
Yah, neways... Cheerio.
U-huh!! So it was all clarified later on. Now that helped me understanding the whole thing. Thanks big time!
I've gotta admit I still need to improve my Japanese a lot. When Hanadan came out I was so proud I could watch the raws without depending on the subs really. But now with Byakuyakou there are so many things that I don't get no matter how often I rewatch the episodes. Still, I can't wait to watch ep 09. I think I never got hooked to a drama like that. Though I LOVED Sekachu and I really enjoyed Ichi rittoru no namida, it wasn't like I was DYING to watch the next episode. SARS... I hate to be pushy, but please... pretty please... save a poor girl's life. Hurry...
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Actually I wouldn't exactly call myself a "d-addict". But I admit I'm kind of addicted to Byakuyakou.suparstarx wrote:haha wow I thought I was addicted
It's scary how I see myself in both Ryouji and Yukiho. Of course I wouldn't go as far as to killing someone but I do understand why things have come to the point as to killing their parents. Hope that doesn't make me a bad person. I'm just thinking of the two of them who are so messed up thanks to their sad childhood. Then again we might discuss if their parents hadn't had a sad childhood like that too which made them do all those things... Maybe this is the reason why the drama is fairly unpopular. You probably need to have some kind of sad childhood experience or to deal with such things in order to understand the characters. For any other they might look plain evil.
Hmm... I think I never watched a drama that made me think as much like that.
Edit: Whoops, I just noticed you might conclude something weird from what I wrote earlier. It's not like I was abused or anything when I was a kid. Only like to many of us some sad things happened in my life too. By far nothing as tragic as in Byakuyakou but still. Well... *coughs* I just felt the need to clarify that.
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Yeah that's what I meant. I'm not totally addicted to watching a lot of dramas. But Byakuyakou's got this attraction to it cuz I see myself in there sometimes relating to some of the emotions. The story is also appealing to me cuz it's not similar to that many others outthere at the moment.Kathleen wrote:Actually I wouldn't exactly call myself a "d-addict". But I admit I'm kind of addicted to Byakuyakou.suparstarx wrote:haha wow I thought I was addicted
It's scary how I see myself in both Ryouji and Yukiho. Of course I wouldn't go as far as to killing someone but I do understand why things have come to the point as to killing their parents. Hope that doesn't make me a bad person. I'm just thinking of the two of them who are so messed up thanks to their sad childhood. Then again we might discuss if their parents hadn't had a sad childhood like that too which made them do all those things... Maybe this is the reason why the drama is fairly unpopular. You probably need to have some kind of sad childhood experience or to deal with such things in order to understand the characters. For any other they might look plain evil.
Hmm... I think I never watched a drama that made me think as much like that.
Edit: Whoops, I just noticed you might conclude something weird from what I wrote earlier. It's not like I was abused or anything when I was a kid. Only like to many of us some sad things happened in my life too. By far nothing as tragic as in Byakuyakou but still. Well... *coughs* I just felt the need to clarify that.
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I only know that she discovered that Yukiho killed her mother. What I still wonder is what object did she discover in the garden. I believe I heard "white flower" but I don't understand what that came from.suparstarx wrote:Heh, well I mean the feelings they have for each other. Don't really mean their childhood or their cruel intentions.
Confused!
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