But right now, because Tsukasa is acting like an ass again, I'm voting for Makino and Rui. But you see I know myself, so the moment Tsukasa does something sweet, probably next episode since he's running after her, I'll be back on his side. 
i cant wait until the next ep~!Your right that is why Domyoji is acting that way...I keep thinking to myself he still is so much in love with her but is trying to protect Makino the only way he knows how from his motherShiget^ wrote:about domyouji being cold...
...Sure he could be nicer to her but he knows his mother spies are every where and the moment his mother even thinks he might break the deal they made...She will ruin Makino life....Domyoji knows the F4 cannot protect Makino forever from his mother...OMG! that right! and didnt u see his cute face when he says BAKA to makino at the baseball camp?? his face changed a lot =( sniff and he looked makino as before snifffffffffGorahgurl wrote:
Plus, after he says "I have no time for this" but she says "Wait a minute" and he turns around...wow. Did you see his face? He looks so sad! o.o
i totally agree with it! when Tsukasa says : i...no longer have anything to do with her anymore. He has such a sad face that makes me cry T____T.............!!! and then he says: im just going with how i feel, thats all. OMG!!! he really looks like almost crying snifffcharurei wrote:^ah, I agree. Actually, there are scenes wherein I can feel/see him constraining himself.. like that talk in the restaurant with the rest of the F4. Plus the scene in the baseball field. argh!
yupSunStar wrote:you know... now since you all mentioned that... it does seem like Domyouji is sad and hurting when he said those things to Makino...
i could feel his pain!!!! and Makino's!!!!
i mean he was so close to bursting into tears!it was plain to see how much he suffers! and makino suffers too cos she can`t get his message i mean if she just took a look really close she could see that he`s in so much pain but as everyone on here i`m sure that he acts like that cos of his mother!she treathened him with something i`m sure of it! 
Christabel wrote:hey! i got a big question!!
somebody knows whats going on with Tsukasa's dream?? well...nightmare
an old man and a family then this man commits suicide and then Tsukasa suddenly wokes up
what is all that about??? =P
hahaha yeah that mom is SOOO evil,DrThunderMeetsCaptainPlan wrote:I almost wonder if his mom didn't threaten to get a hit out on Tsukushi if he even talked to her anymore. That lady is a horrible wonky-eyebrowed meanie!!!!
You gotta love an actress who can make you so mad about what she does in a TV show, though! hahah
I am REALLY liking how this new season is turning out. The first episode totally reminded me of why I LOVED the first season so much and it raised a lot of questions and suspense in me.
about the spaghetti eating vixen...DrThunderMeetsCaptainPlan wrote:I almost wonder if his mom didn't threaten to get a hit out on Tsukushi if he even talked to her anymore. That lady is a horrible wonky-eyebrowed meanie!!!!
You gotta love an actress who can make you so mad about what she does in a TV show, though! hahah
I am REALLY liking how this new season is turning out. The first episode totally reminded me of why I LOVED the first season so much and it raised a lot of questions and suspense in me.
well maybe you`re right as u know what happens later in the manga but for the time being..........she really doesn`t love him at all........i mean the thing with the new finacee and getting makino there was so coldheartedfujitofu wrote:domyoji's mother actually loves her son, it's just her way of loving is inproper. i read the manga and i feel sympathetic for her.
but that's for later...
i was so happy when i saw that she invited tsukushi to the party too!i was like"whoah the obaba really started to show some consideration to the feelings of those two"......and then bang......arghhhh i can`t stand that woman as a mother i think that she should`ve observed how unhappy are her children... 
this is the best scene for me! I was jumping around so excited and then you actually see Domyouji's face.. ahh. so much longing, but as i said, constraining himself.kiki wrote:for me, i really see all of that, when he first see her, the longing in his face and how he kept asking her why she came to new york, and everytime she said the answer that it not for him, it break his heart, i think that a part of him want to forget her and yet a part of him don't to, one word for her that she really care and love him, i think he will risk everything to be by her side. but these two are soo stubborn.
I thought that was pretty racist of them. LIke, of course it's going to be a black guy who robs Makino. White folks don't rob pple! Never! And how threatening could a white guy be? We've just got to get a bunch of black dudes to threaten Makino!marie_23 wrote:Personally, when I saw that scene I thought it was in very poor taste for the director to do that...It was so obvious that something was not right with that scene of her and those men in the alley...Gorahgurl wrote:I have no clue why, but when that extremely black guy steals her bag I can't stop laughing, I'm tearing up a little. It's like they just grabbed the blackest guy off the street and had him steal her bag for the dorama. rofl
Rant over.Lifo wrote:This series is KILLING me !
Unlike the first series, it started out sad unlike HYD 1 =(
C'mon, it's not New York without the stereotypical muggingidtaminger wrote:I thought that was pretty racist of them. LIke, of course it's going to be a black guy who robs Makino. White folks don't rob pple! Never! And how threatening could a white guy be? We've just got to get a bunch of black dudes to threaten Makino!
Indeed, it's virtually impossible to run in time square. Way too many people. Also, what kind of idiot thief calls attention to himself after taking a bag by running like that?idtaminger wrote:Not to mention totally unrealistic, btw. First of all, nobody robs and runs w/ a giant duffel in the middle of Times Square.
Well, it gets cold quickly walking in freezing weather, and it looks like Doumyouji was in Columbia? So walking thru harlem would not be wise.idtaminger wrote:And please, white haired dude from the beginning would not have said she was crazy and left. We've seen crazy. We know crazy. And bad English does not make you crazy. And he would never have recommended a bus. Do you know how SLOW buses are in Manhattan? They stop at every red light every block, on top of every bus stop every other block. You're better off walking.
I agree, the alley cannot be anywhere near time square, you have to be on far East side or west for there to be any alleys. If I had to guess, they might have been in Soho.idtaminger wrote:And on a related note, how in the world did Makino end up in an ALLEY right off of Times Square? For like 7 blocks around it's all densely populated commercial district. Any possible sliver of space is bound to have been bought up and built on. And she runs past Bryant Park, which means she's heading East. I mean, she's heading towards Grand Central for goodness sakes. The only way she could possibly have entered an alley is if she ran all the way to around 1st Ave. Makino must have some legs if she followed Mr. Mugger for 10 city blocks, running, no less.
Unless they're Jehovah's witness or that rasterfarian group that's always there.idtaminger wrote:And a "gang" accosting her? What is this, the 80s? You don't get random groups of guys accosting tourists in alleys in midtown in Manhattan in broad daylight. You just don't.
eternalstar wrote:Lifo wrote:This series is KILLING me !
Unlike the first series, it started out sad unlike HYD 1 =(
Umm... I will just tell you, what you predicted happens in the manga. ^_^
I already loved Rui to begin with, but the more you read the manga the more you love him and feel sorry for him at the same time. *sigh*
I can't wait for episode 2 RAW! YAY!
i didnt want to know that:| as from what people have said season 2 isstill linking in with the manga:| but yeh i could see it. i just LOVED the faces he does at her, like when shes talking in the restaurant with her mouth full, and when he looks over the book when ashe comes baack to ask for money in NY and at domyoujis hhouse where hes sat with his knees tucked up on the chair, and when he blows bubbleds in his drink in the cafe in NY ahhhh...such a loveable character hahaahahaha
That was what I first thought too, but it makes even less sense that Makino would chase the dude all the way downtown. That's like 30 blocks at least.auroragb wrote:If I had to guess, they might have been in Soho.
It follows the manga. So if MG2 followed the manga, then yeah, the storyline will be similiar.MooCow wrote:can anyone tell me if the current story is follow of meteor garden2 or is a brand new one?
Hmmm...I think I posted on this extact same thing in this thread a while back in the manga that Hana Yori Dango is based on that alley scene was a rip off from when Makino is in france and is about to be attacked by a "french white guy"...and she is saved by Domyoji and not Rui...The director changed that part around and placed Makino being attacked in a New York alley. But, in the manga also Domyoji I believe is helped out in New york by some black guys on the street. Why the director changes the black guys in the manga from being helpful to crazed basketball throwing robbers is beyound mesp4078 wrote:the rob scene is pretty racist and STUPID, why not a white guy, booo~. And the 3 black guys scene tottally suks. Of course, it's dangerous to walk in that kind of valley, but people don't pick a fight with a girl for no reason.
Other than that, and bad English also, the shows looks reat, Jun is hotter in season 2.
AW, I almost forgot Junpei, all I wanted to say is HE IS NOT HOT and his smile freaks me out.
everything else in the drama first episode is pretty good though!
u can go directly to the arashi vox blog for ithorndogbuddhist wrote:anybody know where the subtitle file is on this site...can't find it
understood, but its not ONLY black people who mug people, and its not just "commonly" either, white people asian people, hispanics, you name it, they steal too. The reason people are mad is because its in something so widely viewed, its giving many people a bad look on black people in general. It's not like you can say "black people eat fried chicken" and put it in your drama with the black character always eating fried chicken just cuz a lot of black people happen to like fried chicken. White people like it to. you see my meaning? It's just one of those things you can't do unless you want to be perceived as being racist.omoiyou wrote:i live in nyc and personally i feel like it reflected the city pretty correctly. I'm not racist, but all the times i have been mugged were by black folks, whether it be on the train or at school, and i've lost some pretty valuable stuff (ipod, psp, wallet) so you can't say its not true
I have family that live and work in New York and not once have they been robbed by a black gang that uses basketballs as weaponsomoiyou wrote:i live in nyc and personally i feel like it reflected the city pretty correctly. I'm not racist, but all the times i have been mugged were by black folks, whether it be on the train or at school, and i've lost some pretty valuable stuff (ipod, psp, wallet) so you can't say its not true
....Come on now a gang of robbers that goes around attacking tourist using basketballs and are afraid of fake guns...That's suppost to reflect real life New York .....It would have been more realistic if they had given the gang guns or knives but then again Rui would have died with in the first few minutes into the show ... I'm sorry nothing about that alley scene is something that happens in real life...If it did the police would only need fake guns to scare of robbers tried it just now and it saids that they aren't workingKamichamaN wrote:u can go directly to the arashi vox blog for ithorndogbuddhist wrote:anybody know where the subtitle file is on this site...can't find it
http://arashi.vox.com/
I agree with the fakeness part, the alley scene was unnatural, you could just feel it. I mean...they attacked her with a basketball, the only realistic type line was "man let;s just search her f**king pockets" but the way the scene playe out was like "you think they knew what they were doing when they wrote this out?"marie_23 wrote:I have family that live and work in New York and not once have they been robbed by a black gang that uses basketballs as weaponsomoiyou wrote:i live in nyc and personally i feel like it reflected the city pretty correctly. I'm not racist, but all the times i have been mugged were by black folks, whether it be on the train or at school, and i've lost some pretty valuable stuff (ipod, psp, wallet) so you can't say its not true
Do you mean the ending song of the preview or from the last scene. And I don't think the ost is out yet, but I hope soon. Check a thread back, I think there is a link for the preview song(opening song)Dare_Devil09 wrote:Does anyone have the ending song of this series I really or the hold OST of this series?
So if something isn't meant to be seen it's acceptable? What bs logic. Just b/c it was meant for a different audience doesn't excuse the fact that racism is alive and well, and being promoted in the mainstream media. How do you think Asians would feel if they watched some of the older American films/shows featuring Asian stereotypes? (Remember the Japanese guy in Breakfast at Tiffany's?) Just b/c it was meant for an American audience doesn't excuse the racism present in those films.ssasami wrote: I say give em a break. Its only a TV show, and most of us weren't really meant to see it anyway.
Uh...no. The France scene was w/ some serial killer/serial rapist that was stalking Paris. No mugging involved.marie_23 wrote: Hmmm...I think I posted on this extact same thing in this thread a while back in the manga that Hana Yori Dango is based on that alley scene was a rip off from when Makino is in france and is about to be attacked by a "french white guy"...and she is saved by Domyoji and not Rui...The director changed that part around and placed Makino being attacked in a New York alley. !
What i said was the city...not the scene, sorry if you misunderstood. But really do you think i was attacked by a basketball while being robbed? No. If you really lived here you'll know, but since you aren't you can't say or judge. If you went to some worse parts of manhattan, brooklyn, or bronx you'll see how bad it is. The media also portrays New York (wrongly) as being a grand city of stardom, which makes people believe this kind of stuff don't happen here.marie_23 wrote:I have family that live and work in New York and not once have they been robbed by a black gang that uses basketballs as weaponsomoiyou wrote:i live in nyc and personally i feel like it reflected the city pretty correctly. I'm not racist, but all the times i have been mugged were by black folks, whether it be on the train or at school, and i've lost some pretty valuable stuff (ipod, psp, wallet) so you can't say its not true
omoiyou wrote:What i said was the city...not the scene, sorry if you misunderstood. But really do you think i was attacked by a basketball while being robbed? No. If you really lived here you'll know, but since you aren't you can't say or judge. If you went to some worse parts of manhattan, brooklyn, or bronx you'll see how bad it is. The media also portrays New York (wrongly) as being a grand city of stardom, which makes people believe this kind of stuff don't happen here.marie_23 wrote:I have family that live and work in New York and not once have they been robbed by a black gang that uses basketballs as weaponsomoiyou wrote:i live in nyc and personally i feel like it reflected the city pretty correctly. I'm not racist, but all the times i have been mugged were by black folks, whether it be on the train or at school, and i've lost some pretty valuable stuff (ipod, psp, wallet) so you can't say its not true
It's not "wrongly" protrayed as glamourous, but I suppose myopically. NY is neither perfect nor a cesspool. You've got billion dollar highrises looking over the projects. One end of the spectrum lives right next to the opposite end. So yes, crime does occur. But not in the way protrayed in this episode, in the places visited in said episode.omoiyou wrote:If you went to some worse parts of manhattan, brooklyn, or bronx you'll see how bad it is. The media also portrays New York (wrongly) as being a grand city of stardom, which makes people believe this kind of stuff don't happen here.
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