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by mizune » Jan 28th, '07, 20:13
Ok, before people start calling each other names again, I want to make some clarifications to the situation with siantut and all the events that led to the mess in the first place.
1. siantut started the S-projects site and forum before the mess started.
2. Flamers and trolls are not a new thing here. Most fansub groups have been attacked or insulted in one way or another at some point, and it will always be an issue. That being said, the way to deal with these people is NOT to instigate a flame war. Use the REPORT button at the bottom of the offending post. Unfortunately, the mods and admins don't have the time to read every thread on this forum, and we rely on users to help identify problems that need to be resolved. In this particular case, nobody reported anything for at least 3 days... If something had been mentioned earlier I have no doubt that the whole situation could have been completely avoided.
3. Flame wars never resolve anything. All they ever do is make things worse. I dare anybody to find an example where a problem has been solved by throwing personal insults at each other. Instead of standing by cheering on the fight, please use the REPORT button. I cannot stress this enough...
As I mentioned before, if anybody really wants to read for themselves what happened, I've still got the archive of all the posts. Anybody who reads the posts objectively will see that the person who originally instigated the problem was actually provoked into the flame war -- he asked a stupid question, but he actually tried to back out of the fight no less than 3 times as the argument grew, but each time he did, other users on this board would goad him back into it with personal insults, further escalating the fight. I consulted with other mods, and we all agree that the mess was really the result of widespread bad judgment on the part of most of the parties involved.
To be fair and equal, if we banned that user, we would have had to ban at least 3 others here on this forum.
For the record, siantut's behavior and responses to the attacks were wonderful -- very professional and absolutely exemplary of how people should conduct themselves in the face of criticism. It's too bad that by the time she entered the discussion, the argument had already built enough momentum that even her thorough responses to the original accusation couldn't stop that steamroller.
Also for the record, I'm sorry that siantut decided to leave this forum, especially if my actions had anything to do with it. Although we try our best to make it a comfortable place for both fansubbers and viewers, D-addicts isn't a Utopia and as people we are all far from bring perfect. Finding a comfortable environment to work and exist in is the most important part of finding any sort of happiness -- and that is ultimately the key to continuing to doing anything in life (especially fansubbing). I wish her the best in her projects. She's more than welcome to come back anytime -- with or without subtitles.
I hope this will put a close to this incident. As always, feel free to PM me if you want to discuss anything. (I'm online much less often these days because of real life obligations, but I do check in at least once a week).
Thanks