[Discussion] Nodame Cantabile and also its SP in Europe

juri25 · Post by **juri25** » Jan 8th, '10, 11:51

this video of nodame left me gob smacked

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 8th, '10, 15:13

juri25 wrote:this video of nodame left me gob smacked

Wow.... That woke me up.

HypnoSurf22 · Post by **HypnoSurf22** » Jan 9th, '10, 04:55

juri25 wrote:this video of nodame left me gob smacked

.... No seriously, I nearly fell off my chair when I watched this

noobee · Post by **noobee** » Jan 9th, '10, 06:16

nice! thanks for the video

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 10th, '10, 07:10

Got this from the J-Dorama forum:

The Most Ideal Onscreen Film Couple - Tamaki Hiroshi and Ueno Juri Places First

Source: Huanqiu
Translated by: sparkles_n15 @ asianfanatics.net

Japanese film entertainment news show MTV SCREEN and cinemacafe jointly created a poll for during the New Years holiday, titled "Who is the most ideal onscreen film couple?" The first place went to Tamaki Hiroshi and Ueno Juri from Nodame Cantabile.

How it is possible that the talented conductor and the 'hentai' musician could be everyone's most ideal couple? Voters expressed their opinions: "Their strengths and weaknesses complement each other", "They're very compatible together", "They look natural standing beside each other". It seems people aren't only expressing their thoughts from seeing them on screen, but in real life as well.

In second place was Inoue Mao and Okada Masaki, playing a pair of young lovers in the film Boku no Hatsukoi wo, Kimi ni Sasagu. Their roles in the movie left deep impressions on viewers. It seems like their height difference was only a minor setback, as many people still commented on them being the "ideal couple" and "perfect together".

As well, from the film BANDAGE, Akanishi Jin and Kitano Kii placed sixth on the list.

Cigam · Post by **Cigam** » Jan 10th, '10, 09:49

juri25 wrote:this video of nodame left me gob smacked

I swear I almost hit the ceiling while I was watching that.

And I haven't exactly seen that many films, but Nodame and Chiaki FTW.

remcon · Post by **remcon** » Jan 11th, '10, 06:38

anyone know of any plans to sub at least the new scenes of the 2009 versions of the special.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 11th, '10, 15:25

remcon wrote:anyone know of any plans to sub at least the new scenes of the 2009 versions of the special.

Haven't heard a thing...

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 13th, '10, 14:34

Yukinon · Post by **Yukinon** » Jan 14th, '10, 20:15

Hi, I'd like to start this drama. I have a question for you: at which volume of the manga does the drama end?
Thank you

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 14th, '10, 20:20

Yukinon wrote:Hi, I'd like to start this drama. I have a question for you: at which volume of the manga does the drama end?
Thank you

Hmm, I don't know: I've never read the manga.

Yukinon · Post by **Yukinon** » Jan 15th, '10, 09:46

bmwracer wrote: Hmm, I don't know: I've never read the manga.

It doesn't matter, thank you

I was curious to know if the drama+the 2 films cover the entire story or if it's necessary to pick up the storyline from the manga to see the end

OmegaWeltall · Post by **OmegaWeltall** » Jan 15th, '10, 10:38

Yukinon wrote:
bmwracer wrote: Hmm, I don't know: I've never read the manga.
It doesn't matter, thank you I was curious to know if the drama+the 2 films cover the entire story or if it's necessary to pick up the storyline from the manga to see the end

Hi Yukinon,

The whole Nodame Cantabile live action production (i.e the 11 episode TV dorama, 2 part SP, and now the 2 movies) covers the manga, though some plot points are excluded.

The 11-ep dorama follows Chiaki+Nodame story when they are in Japan, that would be up to manga volume 9 or 10, I think. The 2 part SP covers the manga up to volume 15 - 16, and the movies cover the rest.

Yukinon · Post by **Yukinon** » Jan 15th, '10, 11:51

OmegaWeltall, thank you very much!
So the entire live production covers the story completely. I'm glad for this since I think that a manga/novel about music can be more entertaining if you can also listen to the music they refer to

I'm about to finish the second epi and omg it's pure genius (yeah I know I'm at fault for being so late but I'm trying to make up)

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 16th, '10, 03:28

Yukinon wrote:OmegaWeltall, thank you very much!
So the entire live production covers the story completely. I'm glad for this since I think that a manga/novel about music can be more entertaining if you can also listen to the music they refer to
I'm about to finish the second epi and omg it's pure genius (yeah I know I'm at fault for being so late but I'm trying to make up)

Better late than never!

Juri'sTerii · Post by **Juri'sTerii** » Jan 16th, '10, 11:07

Tamaki is in HK right now & will be attending JSG Awards Show tonite, will be watching it live on TV.

Edited: Tamaki performed "Slow Time", it was pretty lively, kinda like it.

He was very polite even though the other presenters make as ass of themselves mixing cantonese with Japanese. He was kinda baffle at first at their broken Japanese.

OT~

Yukinon · Post by **Yukinon** » Jan 17th, '10, 12:06

bmwracer wrote: Better late than never!

That's for sure!

Really, what a great story. And acting, also. I'm swallowing it in one gulp :alcoholic:

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 18th, '10, 06:18

Hmm, turns out this scene is similar to that in Episode 1 of the anime: Nodame Cantabile Finale...

juri25 · Post by **juri25** » Jan 18th, '10, 12:59

bmwracer wrote:

Hmm, turns this scene is similar to that in Episode 1 of the anime: Nodame Cantabile Finale...

yea it made a lot of sense as 2 why that scene occurred

btw the first ep of the anime was amazing!
i missed chiaki's obsession with conducting & nodame's crazy antics!!:P
too bad its only 11 episodes

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 19th, '10, 14:41

juri25 wrote:btw the first ep of the anime was amazing!

I'll have to check it out: I haven't watched it all the way through yet.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 20th, '10, 15:38

From Anime News Network:

Nodame Cantabile Saishū Gakushō Zen-Pen (Nodame Cantabile: The Final Score Part I), the first film in a two-part theatrical finale inspired by Tomoko Ninomiya's Nodame Cantabile musical romance manga, stayed at #2 on Kogyo Tsushinsha's Japanese box office chart during the January 9-10 weekend. According to Variety and Rentrak Theatrical, it earned US$2,472,188 on 409 screens during its fourth weekend for a total-to-date of US$31,043,916.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 21st, '10, 05:25

Box office from January 17, 2010:

1) Avatar
2) Nodame Cantabile Saishu Gakusho Zenpen

3) Where the Wild Things Are
4) BANDAGE
5) UP

juri25 · Post by **juri25** » Jan 22nd, '10, 12:04

this is a video of a recent NC event!
i guess fans were given the chance 2 ask Qs 2 juri n hiroshi!!
ahhhhhhhhhhhh i envy them!!!!

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 22nd, '10, 15:37

juri25 wrote:this is a video of a recent NC event!
i guess fans were given the chance 2 ask Qs 2 juri n hiroshi!!
ahhhhhhhhhhhh i envy them!!!!

Sugoi...!!

Thanks for the link!

jacqlovesnews · Post by **jacqlovesnews** » Jan 23rd, '10, 18:10

Hey does anyone know whether the movie will be shown in Malaysia? and when wil the release date be? THANK YOUU!!>.<

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 25th, '10, 04:14

From Variety.com:

Box Office: Japan Jan 16 - Jan 22, 2010

FILM -- GROSS -- TOTAL (millions US$)
1. Avatar -- $5,606,688 -- $65,211,354
2. Nodame Cantabile: The Final Score - Part I -- $1,543,953 -- $35,895,411
3. Where The Wild Things Are -- $1,540,086 -- $1,819,542
4. Bandage -- $1,474,565 -- $1,474,565
5. Up -- $1,350,917 -- $50,595,986

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 25th, '10, 06:06

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 28th, '10, 05:15

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 28th, '10, 14:50

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 28th, '10, 15:13

Nodame Cantabile Movie I - Saishu Gakusho Zenpen OST: http://community.livejournal.com/jbums/465072.html

juri25 · Post by **juri25** » Jan 29th, '10, 19:05

bmwracer wrote:Nodame Cantabile Movie I - Saishu Gakusho Zenpen OST: http://community.livejournal.com/jbums/465072.html

THANK U SO MUCH BMW!!!!!!!!!
THIS MADE MY DAY!!

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Jan 29th, '10, 23:26

^ Enjoy!

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 1st, '10, 20:23

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 2nd, '10, 05:35

Nodame Cantabile - Movie II : http://hlo.tohotheater.jp/net/movie/TNP ... _cd=007595

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 4th, '10, 14:49

The end?

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 7th, '10, 05:08

Big pic.

juri25 · Post by **juri25** » Feb 7th, '10, 16:42

what a lovely pic!!!

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 9th, '10, 19:17

Interesting trivia: Juri-chan and Nodame author Ninomiya Tomoko had the same birth date: May 25.

Mai-Soon · Post by **Mai-Soon** » Feb 10th, '10, 02:26

bmwracer wrote:
Yukinon wrote:OmegaWeltall, thank you very much!
So the entire live production covers the story completely. I'm glad for this since I think that a manga/novel about music can be more entertaining if you can also listen to the music they refer to
I'm about to finish the second epi and omg it's pure genius (yeah I know I'm at fault for being so late but I'm trying to make up)
Better late than never!

that's right..

i'm watching the drama for the first time and i'm totally obsessed..regretting the time i waste before watching it...
go Nodame

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 10th, '10, 04:32

Mai-Soon wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
Yukinon wrote:OmegaWeltall, thank you very much!
So the entire live production covers the story completely. I'm glad for this since I think that a manga/novel about music can be more entertaining if you can also listen to the music they refer to
I'm about to finish the second epi and omg it's pure genius (yeah I know I'm at fault for being so late but I'm trying to make up)
Better late than never!
that's right..

i'm watching the drama for the first time and i'm totally obsessed..regretting the time i waste before watching it...
go Nodame

Yay, another fan!

Welcome to Nodame's World!

Mai-Soon · Post by **Mai-Soon** » Feb 10th, '10, 20:53

bmwracer wrote: Yay, another fan!

Welcome to Nodame's World!

YaY, thanks for the worm welcome..

i'm honored to be in Nodame world

Chiaki Senpai i'm gonna miss you after finishing the series

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 12th, '10, 04:37

Nodamicons:

felixj · Post by **felixj** » Feb 13th, '10, 06:56

where i can get the download for "Nodame Cantabile: The Final Score" that already aired in december?! :-?

also, when i searching the nodame cantabile torrent, i saw there are "Nodame Cantabile Special Lesson 1 - 2nd Night & 1st Night", and "Nodame Cantabile in Europe SP1 & SP2 (2009 Version)", what is the difference between this two?!

Thank You,

HypnoSurf22 · Post by **HypnoSurf22** » Feb 13th, '10, 07:42

felixj wrote:where i can get the download for "Nodame Cantabile: The Final Score" that already aired in december?! :-?

also, when i searching the nodame cantabile torrent, i saw there are "Nodame Cantabile Special Lesson 1 - 2nd Night & 1st Night", and "Nodame Cantabile in Europe SP1 & SP2 (2009 Version)", what is the difference between this two?!

Thank You,

Not sure what you mean but the 2 Nodame TV specials aired in 2008. What is happening now are 2 movies. One was released 12/19/09. The 2nd movie will be released.... (I don't remember) Racer help me

Anyway we'll have to wait for the dvd's to come out and hope someone uploads them to the web. Btw my name is Felix too (^_^)v

Sesam · Post by **Sesam** » Feb 13th, '10, 07:47

^^ The SP1 & SP2 (2009 Version) ties the story together with the movies. In other words before you watch the movies, you should see the two new specials

(.. if only someone would sub them

)

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 13th, '10, 07:51

Sesam wrote:(.. if only someone would sub them )

+1.

If you've seen the new footage, it's rather obvious that Juri-chan is wearing a wig for some reason.....?

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 13th, '10, 07:58

felixj wrote:where i can get the download for "Nodame Cantabile: The Final Score" that already aired in december?! :-?

No download available: That was a theatrical movie... I wouldn't expect the DVD to show up in stores until late Spring or early Summer... After the release of Movie 2 in theaters.

also, when i searching the nodame cantabile torrent, i saw there are "Nodame Cantabile Special Lesson 1 - 2nd Night & 1st Night", and "Nodame Cantabile in Europe SP1 & SP2 (2009 Version)", what is the difference between this two?!

The 2009 versions of the SP releases have added (and deleted) footage to blend them in with Movie 1 and 2.

And no subs.

Sesam · Post by **Sesam** » Feb 13th, '10, 08:04

bmwracer wrote:
Sesam wrote:(.. if only someone would sub them )
+1.

If you've seen the new footage, it's rather obvious that Juri-chan is wearing a wig for some reason.....?

I have not watched the new footage yet, holding out until the movies are out. But that is indeed odd, maybe she had a bad hair day and they fixed it with a wig?

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 13th, '10, 08:23

Sesam wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
Sesam wrote:(.. if only someone would sub them )
+1.

If you've seen the new footage, it's rather obvious that Juri-chan is wearing a wig for some reason.....?
I have not watched the new footage yet, holding out until the movies are out. But that is indeed odd, maybe she had a bad hair day and they fixed it with a wig?

Juri-chan with a bad hair day???

I thought maybe she cut her hair for some new project, but recent news footage shows her with her own hair and it wasn't cut one bit.... Curious.

felixj · Post by **felixj** » Feb 13th, '10, 18:26

will the movie release to a DVD?! any news regarding this?!

What months will the DVD out?! i can't wait already...

will anyone subtitle All "Nodame Cantabile Ep.xx [Ueno Juri][1920x1080p" version?!

flamethunder85 · Post by **flamethunder85** » Feb 16th, '10, 04:00

bmwracer wrote: I thought maybe she cut her hair for some new project, but recent news footage shows her with her own hair and it wasn't cut one bit.... Curious.

Which means her next role will need her to have a longer hair.
The new footage from the SP was shot quite at the end of the movie filming (when her hair was already too long for Nodame), which is why she need a wig.

felixj wrote:will the movie release to a DVD?! any news regarding this?!
What months will the DVD out?! i can't wait already...

Rumour's saying it will be out before the movie II (kouhen) is up in the cinema.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 16th, '10, 05:34

felixj wrote:will anyone subtitle All "Nodame Cantabile Ep.xx [Ueno Juri][1920x1080p" version?!

Someone took care of this already....

EDIT: Here: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopi ... tm#1249248

flamethunder85 · Post by **flamethunder85** » Feb 16th, '10, 15:38

Nodame Cantabile Movie II (Kouhen) Trailer

Click the 3rd button on the left.
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/movie/index.html

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 17th, '10, 15:43

Movie 2 looks to be a bumpy road for Nodame and Chiaki-senpai.

Salz · Post by **Salz** » Feb 18th, '10, 12:01

i haven't even saw the first movie but already super excited with the 2nd movie based on the trailer especially because most of the original cast finally make an appearance especially my favorite Mine

i really hope the 1st movie would release on DVD soon

it would be awesome if there is softsubbed for Nodame SP 2009 lol so we could enjoy watching them before seeing the movie

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 21st, '10, 05:51

Found this on the 'net:

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 27th, '10, 19:55

Hentai forest.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Feb 28th, '10, 02:30

"Nodame ichiban desu..."

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Mar 1st, '10, 07:36

Ueno Juri &Tamaki Hiroshi Arrive in Hong Kong Causing Chaos at the Airport

After filming the popular drama Nodame Cantabile, Ueno Juri and Tamaki Hiroshi have once again teamed up for the movie version, reprising their roles as 'Nodame' and 'Chiaki Sempai'. Yesterday the two stars arrived in Hong Kong to promote their new film. With their raising popularity, they caused quite a commotion at the airport. Ueno, who is on her first promotional visit to Hong Kong, was very affectionate and shook hands with her fans. She seemed to steal attention away from Tamaki with her friendly nature.

Once a rumoured couple, Ueno and Tamaki seem like they have a close relationship with each other. They were laughing and chatting away when they arrived yesterday afternoon. At one point in time, Tamaki said something to Ueno, which caused her to 'retaliate' by hitting him. Both were dressed very casually and wore hats. Tamaki even wore sandals. The two specially came from Japan to promote Nodame Cantabile Saishu Gakusho ~ Zenpen. Today (Sunday), they will be attending a meet and greet session as well as the screening for their film.

There were originally 30 fans waiting at the airport for their arrival. However, fans sparked interest for dozens of onlookers. Aside from other travelers and visitors to Hong Kong, there were even airport staff that were curious about the commotion. By the time Ueno and Tamaki left the restricted area, there were well over a hundred onlookers that gathered at the arrivals, making it an incredibly chaotic scene.

Approximately 45 minutes after their flight landed, Ueno and Tamaki stepped out of the restricted area accompanied by more than ten staff members and security personnel, who directed them towards the airport parking lot. Ueno and Tamaki graciously stopped to allow the media to take photos. Tamaki even accepted a bouquet of flowers and small presents from his fans. Ueno appeared very friendly and kept waving and shaking hands with everyone. Tamaki however, seem more reserved but still had a smile on his face. At the end, it took them about 15 minutes to get to the parking lot. They left in two vehicles that were arranged by their company to take them to their hotel.

Source: Mingpao
Translated by: sparkles_n15 @ asianfanatics.net
suggested by: bmwracer

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Mar 1st, '10, 07:45

Tamaki Hiroshi Reveals He Received Valentine's Chocolates from Ueno Juri

The stars of the Japanese drama Nodame Cantabile took Hong Kong by storm yesterday when they arrived to promote their new movie. Both actors received a warm reception from Hong Kong fans. Tamaki Hiroshi later revealed his close relationship with Ueno Juri by saying he received chocolates from her on Valentine's Day!

Tamaki and Ueno specially made the visit to Hong Kong to promote their new film. Yesterday they appeared in Kowloon Bay for an event to promote Nodame Cantabile Saishu Gakusho ~ Zenpen. There were over a thousand spectators that gathered at the venue, packing the place to the brim. Yesterday also happened to be the Lantern Festival (the 15th day of the Lunar New Year known as 'Chinese Valentine's Day'). After collaborating numerous times as an onscreen couple, the pair were also fortunate to celebrate this 'Valentine's Day' together in HK. The organizers gave them a matching pair of teddy bears to mark the occasion. Both Tamaki and Ueno rang the gong to wish for the box office success of their new movie.

When asked how they spent their Valentine's Day? Ueno replied: "Usually in Japan it's the girls who write love letters and send chocolates to men. On White Day (March 14th), they'll wait and see if they get chocolates in return." At that time, Tamaki revealed, "I had to work on Valentine's Day, but I received chocolates from Ueno." The entire crowd erupted in cheers. Tamaki laughed and continued, "There's two types of chocolates. One is the friendly type and the other is the real type. The ones I received were the friendly type."

Later on, Ueno divulged the ending of the movie. She said that in the first part there is a bit of a bump in their relationship, but they patch things up in the second part to give the pair a happy ending. Tamaki quickly broke in and asked the audience to watch the movie. The movie was filmed across many cities in Europe. Ueno said she liked Czech Republic and Vienna, while Tamaki agreed that Prague had gorgeous countryside scenery.

Source: Mingpao
Translated by: sparkles_n15 @ asianfanatics.net

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 1st, '10, 15:23

Cool.

Send me some chocolates, Juri-chan!

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Mar 1st, '10, 15:47

bmwracer wrote:Cool.

Send me some chocolates, Juri-chan!

which kind would you like to receive? the friendly or the real type?

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 1st, '10, 18:44

MisS Lonliah wrote:
bmwracer wrote:Cool.

Send me some chocolates, Juri-chan!
which kind would you like to receive? the friendly or the real type?

I'm not picky... As long as they're from Juri-chan.

MisS Lonliah · Post by **MisS Lonliah** » Mar 1st, '10, 21:05

bmwracer wrote:
MisS Lonliah wrote:
bmwracer wrote:Cool.

Send me some chocolates, Juri-chan!
which kind would you like to receive? the friendly or the real type?
I'm not picky... As long as they're from Juri-chan.

what a humble person!

ok you know that she's currently busy in Hong Kong, so she has no time to make chocolates! however...

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 2nd, '10, 06:28

MisS Lonliah wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
MisS Lonliah wrote:
which kind would you like to receive? the friendly or the real type?
I'm not picky... As long as they're from Juri-chan.
what a humble person!

ok you know that she's currently busy in Hong Kong, so she has no time to make chocolates! however...
she decided to give you some flowers

Sold... I'll accept anything from her.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 2nd, '10, 16:09

Twins.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 3rd, '10, 14:39

Reverse glomp.

HypnoSurf22 · Post by **HypnoSurf22** » Mar 4th, '10, 05:28

A little update from SARS-fansubs. According to their february annoucements they will be subbing both NC movies as soon as they are realeased on dvd/blueray.....

http://www.sars-fansubs.com/content/lov ... e#comments

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 4th, '10, 05:33

HypnoSurf22 wrote:A little update from SARS-fansubs. According to their february annoucements they will be subbing both NC movies as soon as they are realeased on dvd/blueray.....

http://www.sars-fansubs.com/content/lov ... e#comments

Cool.

With any type of luck, Toho will apply English subs to the two movies and save us from having to wait for SARS.

HypnoSurf22 · Post by **HypnoSurf22** » Mar 4th, '10, 05:48

^ If Toho studios had a clue they would. I'm sure they would easily double maybe triple the dvd sales with all of us english speaking Nodame fans.

I highly doubt it though.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 4th, '10, 06:41

HypnoSurf22 wrote:^ If Toho studios had a clue they would. I'm sure they would easily double maybe triple the dvd sales with all of us english speaking Nodame fans.

I highly doubt it though.

Well, if they're playing the movie in Hong Kong and Singapore, where English is used quite a bit, there may be a chance...

And there was the talk about Cannes a while back.....

cuatro · Post by **cuatro** » Mar 8th, '10, 03:38

im new in nodame world, can someone answer me something, i have previously downloaded the series ( i very much like it) and the sp but its the 2009 version so its raw, i just want to know if its the same to the earlier release of the sp or is this a totally different sp? and is anybody subbing this version thx

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 8th, '10, 14:42

cuatro wrote:im new in nodame world, can someone answer me something, i have previously downloaded the series ( i very much like it) and the sp but its the 2009 version so its raw, i just want to know if its the same to the earlier release of the sp or is this a totally different sp? and is anybody subbing this version thx

The 2009 and original release in 2008 have different scenes... The 2009 version is supposed to provide more continuity with the two theater movies.

And to date, there are no subs for the 2009 SP.

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 10th, '10, 20:18

Mongoose time!

bmwracer · Post by **bmwracer** » Mar 11th, '10, 05:17

Nodame trio.

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