When I clicked on the spoiler.. it had me ROFL !!! Haha too funny!malay_tiger wrote:wowwwwwwwww so many spoilers...
I also got one..
don't open this spoiler if you don't want to know what will happen next in Proposal Daisakusen..
[Discussion] Proposal Daisakusen (Operation Love)
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hehehe because, in almost every aspect, it is a tragedy.ladymurasaki wrote:Am watching episode 8 raw now. I must say, this Ken does indulge himself in being sad! I think there was a line somewhere about how guys like to act as though they are starring in a tragedy! He sure is.
and yeah, i think that "marry me instead" line might not be directed to rei... or so they lead us to believe...
fans group band sang mongol800's song n_n
youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9niyLLr_BQ
it's song "small love" from band group : Mongol800
youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9niyLLr_BQ
it's song "small love" from band group : Mongol800
Track Listings
1. Japanese
2. Song For You
3. Japanese
4. Melody
5. Japanese
6. For Life
7. Summer Again
8. Hey Mommy
9. Marriage Blue
10. Japanese
11. Japanese
12. Dear My Lovers
13. Japanese
14. Dandelion
music 'ep 2 & 8 : Chisai Ai no Uta (small love song)
e2dk link for message album : [url]ed2k://|file|Mongol_800-Message_by%20NO%20JUSTICE%20NO%20PEACE.rar|93820754|B63BB7F07ADE69F51276DE7F5F77031A|/[/url]
The girl that plays Rei is alright. But the characters she plays can be annoying sometimes. I know she got on my nerves in Sailor Fuku to Kikanjuu. I think Rei in general is just an annoying character. With the way she's always putting Ken down it's no wonder he gave her the cold shoulder on several occassions.
Tsuru is my fave. That lil' guy is so funny. It'll be cool to see if Ken's changing the past will affect Tsuru, Mikio and Eri too. At one point I thought Mikio had feelings for Ken. *LOL* In the scene where Ken asks to move back to his old seat and switch with Socrates, Mikio looked genuinely upset. Like "Damn. There goes my man".
Tsuru is my fave. That lil' guy is so funny. It'll be cool to see if Ken's changing the past will affect Tsuru, Mikio and Eri too. At one point I thought Mikio had feelings for Ken. *LOL* In the scene where Ken asks to move back to his old seat and switch with Socrates, Mikio looked genuinely upset. Like "Damn. There goes my man".
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omgz tsuru ended up with eri! YEEES! lol
awesome
after watching eps 7, seriously, im starting to wish ken would go after another chick
Is really bad that ken after so many yrs realized what he wanted it, but is even suckier that Rei gives up after 2 tries...
i mean, she also waited for time and location instead of just telling him through all those years.
And the poor guy is trying almost his hard** but she just give him the colds...
seriously, Ken-zou need another chick.
awesome
after watching eps 7, seriously, im starting to wish ken would go after another chick
Is really bad that ken after so many yrs realized what he wanted it, but is even suckier that Rei gives up after 2 tries...
i mean, she also waited for time and location instead of just telling him through all those years.
And the poor guy is trying almost his hard** but she just give him the colds...
seriously, Ken-zou need another chick.
I give up. I've been trying to force myself to watch episode 8, but I just don't have what it takes. So I'm going to make my own Prop -D three-hour special. I predicted Ken will not bottom out until episode 9, so it looks like we won't see the light at the end of the tunnel until episode 10. This show will just have to sit on my drive until then.
Anyway, as I promised earlier, here is an inventory of the unresolved issues that I got from a review of the thread:
1. Why didn’t Rei just tell Ken how she felt? Why did she give up after all those years?
2. Is Rei still in love with Ken? If she stopped being in love with him, when did she stop?
3. Why did Rei choose to marry Tada?
4. Is Rei genuinely in love with Tada?
5. When did past Ken realize he was in love with Rei, and when did he originally (pre-time-slip) start actively doing something about it? Did he ever?
6. What is so bad about Rei ending up with Tada? Is this all about making Ken happy? Why is Ken a better man than Tada?
7. Is it fair to Tada to allow time slipper Ken to submarine his courtship of Rei? Are Ken’s feelings more important than Tada’s
8. Is it fair to Rei to allow Ken to manipulate her past so that she ends up with him instead? In she not entitled to choose her future?
I realize that numbers 6 to 8 aren’t strictly “fact” questions involving plot details, but are more like moral dilemmas. However, I included these "moral" type questions because they will have to be satisfactorily resolved through plot developments in order for the audience to feel satisfied with whatever ending we may end up with. I tried to answer #3 a few pages back, but like all the other issues here, we really need to see more of the show before any answer becomes clear.
So there. Have at it. And feel free to add anything that you feel I've left out, but before piping up, do us all a favor and make sure it hasn't been resolved already. Some people have the habit of reading only the last page of the thread before posting.
Anyway, as I promised earlier, here is an inventory of the unresolved issues that I got from a review of the thread:
1. Why didn’t Rei just tell Ken how she felt? Why did she give up after all those years?
2. Is Rei still in love with Ken? If she stopped being in love with him, when did she stop?
3. Why did Rei choose to marry Tada?
4. Is Rei genuinely in love with Tada?
5. When did past Ken realize he was in love with Rei, and when did he originally (pre-time-slip) start actively doing something about it? Did he ever?
6. What is so bad about Rei ending up with Tada? Is this all about making Ken happy? Why is Ken a better man than Tada?
7. Is it fair to Tada to allow time slipper Ken to submarine his courtship of Rei? Are Ken’s feelings more important than Tada’s
8. Is it fair to Rei to allow Ken to manipulate her past so that she ends up with him instead? In she not entitled to choose her future?
I realize that numbers 6 to 8 aren’t strictly “fact” questions involving plot details, but are more like moral dilemmas. However, I included these "moral" type questions because they will have to be satisfactorily resolved through plot developments in order for the audience to feel satisfied with whatever ending we may end up with. I tried to answer #3 a few pages back, but like all the other issues here, we really need to see more of the show before any answer becomes clear.
So there. Have at it. And feel free to add anything that you feel I've left out, but before piping up, do us all a favor and make sure it hasn't been resolved already. Some people have the habit of reading only the last page of the thread before posting.
at the beginning and up to the middle ive been trying not to think of Ken as a sissy, but now i can say it out loud!btw, I have no idea how this kind of person has such kind of friendship...he's more like an introvert person, IMHO...and believe me, i'm not gonna be sad if this whole drama ends up badly even though the chances are like a bunch, since he doesnt fit for Rei...and actually vice versa...they are meant to be just best friends in a way i cant understand...like ive said, Ken's character is simply unreal...
If we think about it all over again, if he comes back from the future after knowing how Rei and Tada will get married, he should have been doing what he should since the very first episode...i mean, the feeling of imagining the wedding itself, if it were me, would have been devastating...so devastating that i wouldnt have time to do whatever Ken has done from the 1st ep. till now...oh well thank God that the way the story goes is (somehow) good and interesting (perhaps basically because we know they love each other but never got to be a couple and wed like to see it happen...it's always that which draws us to dramas, isnt it? because from my exp. i have no interest anymore after a couple got together and do happy things LOL) that i have no time to think about the whole weirdness...
If we think about it all over again, if he comes back from the future after knowing how Rei and Tada will get married, he should have been doing what he should since the very first episode...i mean, the feeling of imagining the wedding itself, if it were me, would have been devastating...so devastating that i wouldnt have time to do whatever Ken has done from the 1st ep. till now...oh well thank God that the way the story goes is (somehow) good and interesting (perhaps basically because we know they love each other but never got to be a couple and wed like to see it happen...it's always that which draws us to dramas, isnt it? because from my exp. i have no interest anymore after a couple got together and do happy things LOL) that i have no time to think about the whole weirdness...
Haha! I'm the same. I stopped watching after episode 7. I'm not going to watch the rest until I know it's a happy ending.joeboygo wrote:I give up. I've been trying to force myself to watch episode 8, but I just don't have what it takes. So I'm going to make my own Prop -D three-hour special. I predicted Ken will not bottom out until episode 9, so it looks like we won't see the light at the end of the tunnel until episode 10. This show will just have to sit on my drive until then.
I agree that Ken probably wouldn't have been friends if they met in High school or college, but remember that they met in elementary school. So their friendship/bond was established back then.Silvestre wrote:at the beginning and up to the middle ive been trying not to think of Ken as a sissy, but now i can say it out loud!btw, I have no idea how this kind of person has such kind of friendship...he's more like an introvert person, IMHO...and believe me, i'm not gonna be sad if this whole drama ends up badly even though the chances are like a bunch, since he doesnt fit for Rei...and actually vice versa...they are meant to be just best friends in a way i cant understand...like ive said, Ken's character is simply unreal...
Also, Ken is only really an introvert towards Rei when he's trying to express his feelings. When he's with the gang is really outgoing.
hmmm i dont think that they have already been friends since elementary...only rei and ken have...see how they tease both of em concerning their childhood friendship in ep. 8...hmm being introvert only with Rei...naaah...it's more like getting nervous...and that's another weird thing with both of em...if they really think they are best friends, they wouldnt get nervous when they're alone together...it's weird that both of em still dont feel each other...cgme wrote:Haha! I'm the same. I stopped watching after episode 7. I'm not going to watch the rest until I know it's a happy ending.joeboygo wrote:I give up. I've been trying to force myself to watch episode 8, but I just don't have what it takes. So I'm going to make my own Prop -D three-hour special. I predicted Ken will not bottom out until episode 9, so it looks like we won't see the light at the end of the tunnel until episode 10. This show will just have to sit on my drive until then.
I agree that Ken probably wouldn't have been friends if they met in High school or college, but remember that they met in elementary school. So their friendship/bond was established back then.Silvestre wrote:at the beginning and up to the middle ive been trying not to think of Ken as a sissy, but now i can say it out loud!btw, I have no idea how this kind of person has such kind of friendship...he's more like an introvert person, IMHO...and believe me, i'm not gonna be sad if this whole drama ends up badly even though the chances are like a bunch, since he doesnt fit for Rei...and actually vice versa...they are meant to be just best friends in a way i cant understand...like ive said, Ken's character is simply unreal...
Also, Ken is only really an introvert towards Rei when he's trying to express his feelings. When he's with the gang is really outgoing.
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I'm new! ^^ (Plus my Prodai theory)
uh...hi?
Ok, so...should I hide this? lemme see how to do this...um...
Well, I guess that is all I have to say for now. It shows how much of a dork I am to register just to state my theory. I might pop in again, though.
Ok, so...should I hide this? lemme see how to do this...um...
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I am sooo with you I actually havent watched 6 either -- just holding out for a happy part then I'll do a mini marathon.joeboygo wrote:I give up. I've been trying to force myself to watch episode 8, but I just don't have what it takes. So I'm going to make my own Prop -D three-hour special. I predicted Ken will not bottom out until episode 9, so it looks like we won't see the light at the end of the tunnel until episode 10. This show will just have to sit on my drive until then.
Here are my thoughts on your questions ...
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that could be, and i would like it to be, but....Graymouse wrote:@joe!!!!----------> Intresting.......skrible wrote:Just curious, if Ken somehow prevents the photo (from the slide) from being taken, does it mean he will continue living in the past? :/
LOL, Its Saturday here.....I only got two more dayslunargen wrote:that could be, and i would like it to be, but....Graymouse wrote:@joe!!!!----------> Intresting.......skrible wrote:Just curious, if Ken somehow prevents the photo (from the slide) from being taken, does it mean he will continue living in the past? :/
at any rate, it's friday once again, and 3 days more, its prodai again.
@lunargen I just saw episode 8 and thanks btw for your subbing. I am curious if I can ask a huge favor from you. For some reason I can not DL these episodes from the turrent on this site. When I click on the download button it gives me a "this page can not be displayed error message" Is there some other way to get the English Subs of the past episodes. I am missing ep 4, 5, and 6. Your help would be appreciated.
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It's tough, but I get a good fix by visiting the forumsLightningEmperor wrote:For the people that are holding off until the end of the series for a marathon, I don't know how you guys are going to do it. This series is so addicting. How do you resist such temptation?!
goldfishgummy wrote: uh...hi?
Ok, so...should I hide this? lemme see how to do this...um...
Well, I guess that is all I have to say for now. It shows how much of a dork I am to register just to state my theory. I might pop in again, though.
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Aren't those spoilers made up by fans of what they think might happen? I doubt it's true, but then again the way this drama is going it might be a possibility. Plus the ending seemed to Korean-drama-ish.
I really like that idea mentioned about Ken staying in the past by knocking off the camera. That way, he still has a chance to change the future even if it's the last picture in the slide show.
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OMG!!! I just started watching Proposal Daisakusen it's so good...lol many of you put spoilers and they are so tempting to read but I don't want to ruin it. I want to be happy in the happy parts and cry in the sad parts...lol I want to be surprised lol but like I said it is so tempting lol.
how many episodes are there anyways?
how many episodes are there anyways?
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argee*nod nod* tat ll make the series more excietin not tat itz bad. cried along with ken in ep 8.so sad.ladymurasaki wrote:Funny. I was wondering the same thing. That would make for an interesting final 3 episodes.skrible wrote:Just curious, if Ken somehow prevents the photo (from the slide) from being taken, does it mean he will continue living in the past? :/
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let me just say i ROFLed on that one. for starters, it can't possibly be true, because they can't possibly release info on episodes this early on. second, THIS IS NAGASAWA MASAMI HERE. Incurable diseases are Sawajiri's turfcgme wrote: Also I just saw this AWFUL rumor ending over at soompi.
.....episode 10 - Ken observes (found out) that Rei's got an incurable disease
episode 11 - Half a year after the wedding, Rei passes away......
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Heh hehlunargen wrote:...second, THIS IS NAGASAWA MASAMI HERE. Incurable diseases are Sawajiri's turf
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furransu wrote:well from the preview of episode 9, it seems that Rei's proposal was going as it should be.. coz she already put the ring on her finger
so i dont think ken can change that... maybe get rid (kill) tada-san and he will get his happy ending otherwise he will end up depressed and marrying Tsuru! lol
man sometimes i think Tsuru is too lucky and dumb of a guy.. his sillyness is awesome but sometimes it's really annoying. I think eri loves him for that and friends build their fun on top of it. But in reality, tsuru have guts and act when the time is correct. That also angers me since ken never gets it... TIMING !
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Re: I'm new! ^^ (Plus my Prodai theory)
@ Goldfishgummy --Hope you come back to read this ... I like your theory/ idea even better -- wonder how i missed it earlier!!!goldfishgummy wrote: uh...hi?
Ok, so...should I hide this? lemme see how to do this...um...
Well, I guess that is all I have to say for now. It shows how much of a dork I am to register just to state my theory. I might pop in again, though.
@ all the pro dai fans - thanks for the sneak peeks and ideas -- I am enjoying myself everytime I read your thoughts!!!
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I don't think the important point is to stop Tada-san from proposing. The more important thing is for Ken to confess to Rei, something that he regretted about not doing.furransu wrote:well from the preview of episode 9, it seems that Rei's proposal was going as it should be.. coz she already put the ring on her finger
so i dont think ken can change that... maybe get rid (kill) tada-san and he will get his happy ending otherwise he will end up depressed and marrying Tsuru! lol
Like in ep. 7, his going back in time wasn't to stop Tada-san because no matter what Tada-san would've confessed, but it was about Ken confessing! Which he still didn't!
but also in the preview, you also see rei scolding ken about why he doesnt understand anything about her!
thats also what happened to him the past , i think he still didnt tell her in the next episode, he is going to (u see him running) but he was too late since tada-san and rei were already together in the restaurant!
thats also what happened to him the past , i think he still didnt tell her in the next episode, he is going to (u see him running) but he was too late since tada-san and rei were already together in the restaurant!
Maybe it's just a past scene. Some episode are like that, they see us the past scene in order to understance how Ken change events in past. Maybe the scene when Rei said to Ken that he always understand nothing it's the past past scene lol.furransu wrote:but also in the preview, you also see rei scolding ken about why he doesnt understand anything about her!
thats also what happened to him the past , i think he still didnt tell her in the next episode, he is going to (u see him running) but he was too late since tada-san and rei were already together in the restaurant!
In episode 2 or 3 the yosei to made reference to the "Graduate" and warned Ken not to get involved in that kind of scam. So I don't think the fairy will have anything to do with that kind of ending.lunargen wrote:now THAT was a spoiler. hahah just from those photos alone you can infer already what's gonna happen in the end. oh well ahahaha.
A few posts back some people were wondering what would happen if Ken just refused to return to the future. Why doesn't he just stay behind and conduct a consistent courtship so Rei doesn't get pissed off?
Time slipping is manageable when you're limited to just a particular time and place and your effect on the future is not great. If it goes beyond that it becomes more of a burden than a blessing. Sure, you can make yourself a fortune by betting on lotteries and horse races whose results you know beforehand. But what about that bullet train derailment that you know is happening next week? Are you going to warn people not to get on? Or how about that earthquake in Osaka that you know is coming? The asian tsunami? Your friend's botched rhinoplasty? Won't you feel obliged to intervene? If you don't, will you be able to sleep at night? That's probably more responsibility than Ken can or would want to deal with. The limited duration and effect of Ken's time slips is a good thing because it frees him from having to worry about the big picture and allows him to focus on just fixing things up with Rei.
As for kilaalaa's spoiler, I would actually recommend peeking at it to alleviate the very obvious frustration that many posters here are exhibiting *lcoughunarcoughgencough*. It's not the ending that counts; we saw that coming from miles away. It's how he gets there. I sure hope they don't screw that up with some lame "change of heart" scenario. I want Ken to win her heart convincingly, and by positive action, not because Tada backs off or Rei feels pity.
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I love LOVE SONG for subbing this drama<3 <3 <3
Here's the song:
MONGOL800 - Chiisana koi no uta
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UX1G19HV
Downloaded from JPOPSUKI tracker.
I love this song.
Here's the song:
MONGOL800 - Chiisana koi no uta
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UX1G19HV
Downloaded from JPOPSUKI tracker.
I love this song.
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wow!!! thank you so much. i really like the song (and adding that yamapi has voice over while it's playing)... thank you!!!afroken wrote:I love LOVE SONG for subbing this drama<3 <3 <3
Here's the song:
MONGOL800 - Chiisana koi no uta
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UX1G19HV
Downloaded from JPOPSUKI tracker.
I love this song.
**edit: lunargen: (i'm sorry, i'm sorry, it was supposed to be you.. haha.. i think i was so sleepy last time): thanks as well!! afroken has a link already... thanks anyway..
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i think i've made clear enough that i couldn't care less how it ends, just so that Ken's happy. be it with Rei or whoever. (by the way, on the contrary, the photos made me feel a bit irked cause it looks to be like he's gonna end up with her anyway, which was quite obvious, but the rebel in me had hoped) because i agree with you in saying that what counts is how he gets to wherever he's headed. actually, that's exactly where my "frustration" (hmm i need a better word for this) comes from, because looking back at it all makes me feel like i've ridden a jetcoaster after a smorgasbord lunch. i'll be repetitive here once again when i say that he'd suffered too much, but that's just how i feel. but then, maybe it is a just payback for all the nonsense he used to do in the past. oh heck... im getting so confused already *im such a contradiction, backing both sides of the fence grrr*lunargen wrote:since it's quite long i'll just spoiler it.
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at any rate, im looking forward to the summer season. at least Hanakimi wont take much brainpower to enjoy it.
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