[Discussion] Hotaru no Hikari (All Seasons)
hey guys,
I saw that there are some fans of this series here. first of all I have to say that I thought myself that there were no good dramas this season, too. But I really came to like Hotaru no Hikari....first of all the actress playing hotaru is super-sweet (maybe the cutest i've seen so far!).
Anyway I agree with the same opinion that most of you share: I think Hotaru and her buchou make a good couple and I personally think it would be quite realistic that they end up being a couple considering that they don't put on airs in front of each other, after all being honest is the first step to a relationship, or am I wrong?
Anyway I also agree that Makoto's character is too bland...you just don't know anything about him except that he's really popular with girls...
Well, I just finished downloading episode 6 and as soon as I'm done with work I'm going to watch it....looking forward to it so much!
I saw that there are some fans of this series here. first of all I have to say that I thought myself that there were no good dramas this season, too. But I really came to like Hotaru no Hikari....first of all the actress playing hotaru is super-sweet (maybe the cutest i've seen so far!).
Anyway I agree with the same opinion that most of you share: I think Hotaru and her buchou make a good couple and I personally think it would be quite realistic that they end up being a couple considering that they don't put on airs in front of each other, after all being honest is the first step to a relationship, or am I wrong?
Anyway I also agree that Makoto's character is too bland...you just don't know anything about him except that he's really popular with girls...
Well, I just finished downloading episode 6 and as soon as I'm done with work I'm going to watch it....looking forward to it so much!
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yea, they are themselves around each other and don't hide anything (Buchou talks about his divorce a lot whereas at work he hides the fact that he's divorcing, and of course Hotaru hides her true, lazy self). that was the main theme in Kimi wa Petto (awesome drama by the way), and i'm kind of thinking its going to be a theme in this drama too. it always seems like Hotaru is really uncomfortable and awkward around Makoto..
Yeah, Makoto often gives me that "Hasumi-sempai" vibe too. Both of them have that same blandness and problems with getting the girl they like to relax and show her true self to them. I've been mentally comparing the two dramas since about episode one, so I'm glad that I'm not the only person seeing a similarity.
I'm really enjoying this show. Buchou and Hotaru are just both so wonderful to watch.
I'm really enjoying this show. Buchou and Hotaru are just both so wonderful to watch.
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koitoame wrote:Oh man, I just finished all 8 volumes of Hotaru no Hikari. So many things happened already, what a way to end book 8!! Aaaahhhh!! I'm now dying for book 9... maybe I'll go and buy the Kiss magazine instead... if they have it in the Jap bookstore. It feels different from the tv series too.
...Actually, book 9 is already out
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hi minna-san.. I'm ReY and this is my first post in this thread ^^ yoroshiku!
I really love this drama and although my Japanese is not that good, I'm still keeping up with the RAWs coz I can't wait to find out what's gonna happen next but somehow, the site that I used to get the latest eps was closed down, so I was wondering could any of u tell me where I can dload the latest eps? I already got eps1-6, so its only left with eps7 (or maybe eps8 is out?).. I can't use torrent or CB, so I was hoping a direct dload link.. thx for any info and this shows rocks!
PS: I can't vote for either Hotaru/Buchou or Hotaru/Makoto, but I definitely love Hotaru's character.. where else u can find an Hebi+Kame+god-knows-whats-more Onna
I really love this drama and although my Japanese is not that good, I'm still keeping up with the RAWs coz I can't wait to find out what's gonna happen next but somehow, the site that I used to get the latest eps was closed down, so I was wondering could any of u tell me where I can dload the latest eps? I already got eps1-6, so its only left with eps7 (or maybe eps8 is out?).. I can't use torrent or CB, so I was hoping a direct dload link.. thx for any info and this shows rocks!
PS: I can't vote for either Hotaru/Buchou or Hotaru/Makoto, but I definitely love Hotaru's character.. where else u can find an Hebi+Kame+god-knows-whats-more Onna
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[/quote]watersmeet256 wrote:.Thank you, Noi, for sharing it~ ^^ I've been hearing so many things from people. I would like to see what is happening for myself. ..Actually, book 9 is already out Laugh
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I'm currently only in the middle of episode 7 though. DD: Poor Yuka.
ur watching episode 7 raw or hardsubbed?? i only can find 3 episode which is hardsubbed m i missing out some eps?
Ep7
The Doremii group seem to be experiencing some problems, what with subs only up to ep3. It doesn't look like they're giving it up or anything though. My problem, if you can call it that, is I want to discuss the latest developments, but if I don't provide a great lot of translated dialogue here I'll be leaving many out of the loop. People here are asking for the stuff anyway. Then again, if I do keep translating, I'll be duplicating the group's work and I imagine nobody's going to be happy about this.
Oh, never mind. 勝手なこと言ってすみません.
I was still puzzled by the climax of ep7 even after watching it twice. Everything was great except that I didn't quite understand why Buchou said the things he did to his wife, and then afterwards to Hotaru, so I'm lost when it comes to one of the important questions from now on: what will Buchou do? Because in a way Buchou is the character in Hotaru no Hikari who is the hardest to understand.
Anyway, let me translate this part so anyone who's interested to over-analyze things can join me
Conversations between 36:23 and 43:00
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Hotaru's diet plan!! (<- hope this didn't spoil it for anyone)
Oh, never mind. 勝手なこと言ってすみません.
I was still puzzled by the climax of ep7 even after watching it twice. Everything was great except that I didn't quite understand why Buchou said the things he did to his wife, and then afterwards to Hotaru, so I'm lost when it comes to one of the important questions from now on: what will Buchou do? Because in a way Buchou is the character in Hotaru no Hikari who is the hardest to understand.
Anyway, let me translate this part so anyone who's interested to over-analyze things can join me
Conversations between 36:23 and 43:00
Okay, I've decided. I hope Hotaru ends up with buchou. I have a big hunch that it is also the mangaka's intention. Although Buchou's intentions are still a little mysterious... Maybe he wants Hotaru to end up with someone around her age, and not with an "oyaji" like himself? Hotaru cares for him an awful lot too. Makoto is a bit immature in my opinion. He'll have to be more mature before he can be serious in any relationship besides he has to establish his career first.
So far, only the buchou is able to accept Hotaru the way she is, in any setting. Now that's rare, considering they only work in the same company before they started living together not that long ago. I think buchou is also relaxed around Hotaru too. Hence, they are very compatible.
So far, only the buchou is able to accept Hotaru the way she is, in any setting. Now that's rare, considering they only work in the same company before they started living together not that long ago. I think buchou is also relaxed around Hotaru too. Hence, they are very compatible.
SO you read volume 9? Can you tell me what goes on? My japanese skills are...uh, mediocre, at bestkoitoame wrote:Okay, I've decided. I hope Hotaru ends up with buchou. I have a big hunch that it is also the mangaka's intention. Although Buchou's intentions are still a little mysterious... Maybe he wants Hotaru to end up with someone around her age, and not with an "oyaji" like himself? Hotaru cares for him an awful lot too. Makoto is a bit immature in my opinion. He'll have to be more mature before he can be serious in any relationship besides he has to establish his career first.
So far, only the buchou is able to accept Hotaru the way she is, in any setting. Now that's rare, considering they only work in the same company before they started living together not that long ago. I think buchou is also relaxed around Hotaru too. Hence, they are very compatible.
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Hurrah. Welcome to the camp :DDDkoitoame wrote:Okay, I've decided. I hope Hotaru ends up with buchou. I have a big hunch that it is also the mangaka's intention.
Butttttt--I think you've hit it dead on. They're more comfortable around each other, and can truly be themselves. Makoto and Hotaru have a very shallow relationship in that respect. We all know what Hotaru is hiding, but the way Makoto acts makes me think that he's afraid of revealing something as well. I'm only on Vol. 4 of the manga, so I don't know what's going to happen, however, considering how late we are into the dorama, I'm unsure that Buchou/Hotaru will happen. Hm....
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haha
although im not much of a fan of YOUNG, OLD couple realationship...i want her to end up with bouchou too.. i mean... he totally accepts her for who she is..and always looks out for her best interest. it would be wrong for her to end up with makoto..he seems so boring..and she is not herself at all..around him..thats why she ends up always making excuses and running away!
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at first i was rootin' for makoto...(i kinda have a thing for quiet/reserved/mysterious guys..hehe)
but buchou and hotaru are too funny together (>.<) ...they're so cute... they definitely understand each other more... *nods* so...yes...hopefully they will end up together... can't wait for more subs to be released...
but buchou and hotaru are too funny together (>.<) ...they're so cute... they definitely understand each other more... *nods* so...yes...hopefully they will end up together... can't wait for more subs to be released...
Downloading from bittorent is a bit slow, still trying to get ep. 2 & 3, forget about the raws. I'm so glad the manga is available. Well, my japanese isn't all that good either, but I do understand some. Here is what I happened in vol 9, anyone who's interested (it's for you Noi ^.^), I want to apologize beforehand if I get some of the stuff wrong, please correct me.
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Wow! Thanks a bunch, that really cleared up many things for me.koitoame wrote:Downloading from bittorent is a bit slow, still trying to get ep. 2 & 3, forget about the raws. I'm so glad the manga is available. Well, my japanese isn't all that good either, but I do understand some. Here is what I happened in vol 9, anyone who's interested (it's for you Noi ^.^), I want to apologize beforehand if I get some of the stuff wrong, please correct me.
Re: Ep7
Thank you so much lzydata!!!lzydata wrote: Anyway, let me translate this part so anyone who's interested to over-analyze things can join me
Conversations between 36:23 and 43:00
My comments
Hotaru's diet plan!! (<- hope this didn't spoil it for anyone)
It really helped me understand that important conversation.
I support Hotaru x Buchou!
OMFG, thank you so much! Aaah, I really wish people could realize that this manga exists... it's like, "GUESS WHAT GUYS, NANA ISN'T THE ONLY JOSEI MANGA OUT THERE, KTHX!!!"skyfarer wrote:Hello~ I'm a little new here (though I've been lurking), but just thought I'd offer my two cents.
In reply to Noi's spoiler-tagged questions, because I can read Japanese..
Anyhoo, I'm sorry I'm so inquisitive, but I still have some doubts about certain pages of the manga...:
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To Noi...
Actually, Futatsugi is a character the drama creators made up
Did you watch "Haken no Hinkaku"? There's a character named Hitotsugi in there, and the same actor had a role in Hotaru, so they named the character Futatsugi
You see, Hitotsugi in kanji character means "one tree", and Futatsugi means "Two trees"
There's a small comedy clip in the Hotaru official website titled "Hitotsugi-san and Futatsugi-san"...if you have the chance to watch it, it's real fun^^ It also has clips of other minor characters, and they focus on the guys at the office.
They're described as "poor fragile guys who are putting up a great fight against the strong women at their workplace"
So hilarious
Actually, Futatsugi is a character the drama creators made up
Did you watch "Haken no Hinkaku"? There's a character named Hitotsugi in there, and the same actor had a role in Hotaru, so they named the character Futatsugi
You see, Hitotsugi in kanji character means "one tree", and Futatsugi means "Two trees"
There's a small comedy clip in the Hotaru official website titled "Hitotsugi-san and Futatsugi-san"...if you have the chance to watch it, it's real fun^^ It also has clips of other minor characters, and they focus on the guys at the office.
They're described as "poor fragile guys who are putting up a great fight against the strong women at their workplace"
So hilarious
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Wow... once again, thanks a lot for this! xDskyfarer wrote:Noi -
Yeah, someone needs to scanlate this. >< I'm too lazy to do the whole manga, but I'll translate the parts you posted. You can do the interpreting.Can't wait till Wednesday for the next ep~!
I'm sure that you understand the manga better than most of us, so... what are your thoughts on it? How do you think it's going to end? Do you think that Hotaru and Takano's relationship is merely platonic, or do you believe it's going to go somewhere in the future?
Are you referring to Men's Hotaru and Hikari web drama? I have been wondering what is it about, after going through the hassle of borrowing a friend's windows machine (it doesn't work on macs) and I found out the drama is restricted to Japan only, because I think the site checks the IPs.OolittlepandagirloO wrote: There's a small comedy clip in the Hotaru official website titled "Hitotsugi-san and Futatsugi-san"...if you have the chance to watch it, it's real fun^^ It also has clips of other minor characters, and they focus on the guys at the office.
They're described as "poor fragile guys who are putting up a great fight against the strong women at their workplace"
So hilarious
It certainly sounds interesting... too bad....
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C: No problem, glad to help!Noi wrote:Wow... once again, thanks a lot for this! xD
I'm sure that you understand the manga better than most of us, so... what are your thoughts on it? How do you think it's going to end? Do you think that Hotaru and Takano's relationship is merely platonic, or do you believe it's going to go somewhere in the future?
Well, in the manga...
skyfarer wrote:C: No problem, glad to help!Noi wrote:Wow... once again, thanks a lot for this! xD
I'm sure that you understand the manga better than most of us, so... what are your thoughts on it? How do you think it's going to end? Do you think that Hotaru and Takano's relationship is merely platonic, or do you believe it's going to go somewhere in the future?
Well, in the manga...As for the drama, I hope it happens, but there's still the possibility of Hotaru ending up alone. The drama itself has an entirely different feel to it too. Anything goes.
.....hints? From which side? I suppose Hotaru is much more expressive than Seiichi, anyway... any special moments you like the most?
I think vol. 10 is supposed to be out in October. It feels like vol 1-9 is the end of the 1st part, and now on with the 2nd. I just hope it's about buchou and Hotaru. I mean, think about it, all the obstacles are now cleared to let them have a romantic relationship. I think buchou thinks Hotaru's a bit special, unlike all the women he met in the past. I mean you can't be bored around Hotaru and buchou laughs a lot around her too. He really enjoys her company. Besides buchou has always been Hotaru's support through her relationship with Makoto. I wonder how buchou is going to be like when he's serious about Hotaru. I think Hotaru's going to be in shock when they really are in a relationship. I'm going to enjoy her reactions.
I just hope the mangaka is going this way. You never know. Some mangaka has some weird ideas. I hope she doesn't disappoint.
I just hope the mangaka is going this way. You never know. Some mangaka has some weird ideas. I hope she doesn't disappoint.
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Yes, I mean Men's Hotaru. I didn't realize it can't be seen outside Japan...that must have been disappointingkoyar wrote:Are you referring to Men's Hotaru and Hikari web drama? I have been wondering what is it about, after going through the hassle of borrowing a friend's windows machine (it doesn't work on macs) and I found out the drama is restricted to Japan only, because I think the site checks the IPs.
It certainly sounds interesting... too bad....
Interesting how all the comic spoilers are racing around here
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I've been neutral in this debate about who Hotaru should go with, but as time goes by my sympathies have drifted towards Buchou, if only because the two of them have such hilarious conversations every week and there won't be any more of them when Hotaru moves out. That's one part of the drama that hasn't let us down. But I don't think Hotaru/Buchou fans need to restrain ourselves or apologize for supporting who we do. There are perfectly good reasons to support Hotaru/Buchou, and I'm sure Hotaru/Makoto fans - if there are any here - will understand.
Speaking of the whole moving out issue, I was surprised that it's Buchou who is now...
Speaking of the whole moving out issue, I was surprised that it's Buchou who is now...
I'm not sure if this drama will get an anime. I do hope so. After reading the manga, I really got attached to the buchou and Hotaru. After all we know what really happened to Makoto and Hotaru, right? I'm looking forward to the new stories. I'm gonna ignore the drama for now. It'll only spoil it for me.
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Wow. From all the responses above, you can see how much the content of the drama has deviated from the manga. I wonder if the author really gave her permission to let them do so...It just seems a pity. And a pity that HNH is only going to last ten episodes and stop airing on 9/12. Even though there will be an extension on the timing. D: And after watching the chinese subbed version, finally many things come to light. There is so much meaning in the Hotaru/Boss conversations and stuff that are kinda ambigous. You don't really know if he likes her or not. ;_; And I was mistaken about the Makoto thing, apparently he ran away because the pair looked chummy. Oh well.
And next week's episode...
And next week's episode...
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Yep. Ten episodes. It was written in the TV magazine I bought.The last one will air from 10.00 to 11.09? So I'm guessing just about a hour and nine minutes. D:PopGilligan wrote:Where'd you hear this about next week? CM? I'm just curious : )watersmeet256 wrote:
So, we're just getting 10 episodes? Lame. They'll be what, an hour and a half each then?
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Wheee! Yorokobi, you've made me a happy, happy girl, and REALLY has me interested in seeing how they're going to finish up this drama next week (sad cries). It feels like there's so much more story, and it's the producers, etc. are going to have to cram it all in. All, well, that's alright. Should make for a good finale, ne?
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Thank you, Noi for the screencaps and Yorokobi for the summary. I'm currently watching the episode. But I couldn't resist popping in to see if any other people have watched it already~^^ I'm so happy but sad now because the series is ending just when it's starting to get really good. No...Hotaru don't leave the buchou all alone. ;_;Noi wrote:Finished watching episode 9... and OH MY GOD. (Some pics under spoiler)
Episode 10, COME TO US, QUICK!!!! xD
OH, and like... I saw they where advertising for the OST... will someone be getting that? This drama has a lovely soundtrack.
Oh, OST? Gwahh..Did they state a date of release yet?:D
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