[Discussion] Bara no nai Hanaya: Katori Shingo/Takeuchi Yuko
Haha, that montage would be nice, but entirely too predictable. And from what I've seen so far of Nojima's work in this drama, a hot kissing scene doesn't sound plausible as an ending. Oh it just struck me, it could be...yanie wrote:That's what I thought too, the drama will end with a montage of hot kissing scenes between Eiji and Mio, lol!atskv9 wrote:I guess Nojima would be referring to what was happening on screen in that film? So if that's the case, looks like it's going to end with a kiss
But it could also be Eiji watching home videotapes alone... or, that hospital director instead?
LOVED tonight's episode SOOOO MUCH!!!!! EXCELLENT!
I just noticed that there's always this different "special love theme" between Eiji and Mio in each episode.
Ep1: "Do you do that to anyone else too?" -> referring the good deeds Eiji do, is it just for Mio, or does he do that to anyone else too. This line comes on couple of times during Eiji-Mio scenes.
Ep2: "Ohanaya-saaan!!" -> Mio called Eiji "Mr. Florist" over and over in this episode.
Ep3: Fairytale -> Beauty and The Beast, Cinderella... find out how it related to Eiji and Mio yourself when you watch this episode
My favorite scene in this episode was when they were all accidentally gather around in front of the flower shop!! Eiji, Mio, Naoya, Ono-sensei, the old lady, and the cafe master! And how they talked about who loves who!!! Haha! It was soooo funny!!! And it was a "cynical" battle between Mio (Takeuchi Yuko) VS Ono-sensei (Shaku Yumiko)! Love these ladies' cynical banters and how the other 4 people surround them were reacting awkwardly and didn't know what to do, until Eiji spit out something he shouldn't have coz he panicked, hahaha~~ Definitely one of the BEST scene, so far!!!
Somehow this scene reminds me of a Long Vacation scene^^
Yabaaai... how should I survive till next week???
I just noticed that there's always this different "special love theme" between Eiji and Mio in each episode.
Ep1: "Do you do that to anyone else too?" -> referring the good deeds Eiji do, is it just for Mio, or does he do that to anyone else too. This line comes on couple of times during Eiji-Mio scenes.
Ep2: "Ohanaya-saaan!!" -> Mio called Eiji "Mr. Florist" over and over in this episode.
Ep3: Fairytale -> Beauty and The Beast, Cinderella... find out how it related to Eiji and Mio yourself when you watch this episode
My favorite scene in this episode was when they were all accidentally gather around in front of the flower shop!! Eiji, Mio, Naoya, Ono-sensei, the old lady, and the cafe master! And how they talked about who loves who!!! Haha! It was soooo funny!!! And it was a "cynical" battle between Mio (Takeuchi Yuko) VS Ono-sensei (Shaku Yumiko)! Love these ladies' cynical banters and how the other 4 people surround them were reacting awkwardly and didn't know what to do, until Eiji spit out something he shouldn't have coz he panicked, hahaha~~ Definitely one of the BEST scene, so far!!!
Somehow this scene reminds me of a Long Vacation scene^^
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Gotta love 16hr workdays... I missed this and only caught a short glimpse on the car navi while going home...
I'll have to suffer through until tomorrow (hopefully.. although I'm sure I have a few more long work days ahead of me) to sit down and watch it...
It's hard to avoid the spoilers above..
Yanie, thanks for all of your contributions to the thread; great work!
I'll have to suffer through until tomorrow (hopefully.. although I'm sure I have a few more long work days ahead of me) to sit down and watch it...
It's hard to avoid the spoilers above..
Yanie, thanks for all of your contributions to the thread; great work!
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hello there! (:
this is such a nice drama!! I've only just started watching Japanese dramas, so i don't have the experience to value a drama just by the actors and actresses!!! thank goodness I chanced upon this one!!! Though there are some parts in the first episode that I can't understand....can anyone help me out please? (T_T)
thanks so much,whoever who solves the mystery(cloud in my head)! (:[/spoiler]
this is such a nice drama!! I've only just started watching Japanese dramas, so i don't have the experience to value a drama just by the actors and actresses!!! thank goodness I chanced upon this one!!! Though there are some parts in the first episode that I can't understand....can anyone help me out please? (T_T)
Tell me about it... Let's not forget 12 hr days on the weekend on top of the 16 hr days during the week too...hikkichan wrote:Gotta love 16hr workdays...
So I'm not entirely sure where the story is going anymore, but I'm still enjoying the ride. Here are a few more random things that popped into my head (post ep3):
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Oh man, how am I supposed to wait another 6 days for the next episode?
I love reading all your comments especially the lengthy ones!! I've yet to fully understand the drama but I'm trying to grasp as much as I can watching the raws and reading comments (p.s. I don't understand japanese)...I've only watched ep1 subbed and 2&3 raw..but I sorta (freakily) understand bits and bobs here and there enough to understand what is happening!
I love reading all your comments especially the lengthy ones!! I've yet to fully understand the drama but I'm trying to grasp as much as I can watching the raws and reading comments (p.s. I don't understand japanese)...I've only watched ep1 subbed and 2&3 raw..but I sorta (freakily) understand bits and bobs here and there enough to understand what is happening!
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Ahh... sou ka~ haha, thanks. atskv9, so sorry abt that xD I'll try to give warnings on which ep the spoilers are, from now on^^;
In an interview with Katori Shingo in TV LIFE that just come out today, he said,
"I've read up the script up to Episode 5 now. And when I found out more about Eiji's past life, I was like "Usoooo~~!!"(no way). The staff who had read the script to the end, said to me, there are just so many things going on in the past and the future.
Due to the big developments of the story, we, the casts, are not allowed to read the script of the later episodes yet. We read one episode script, just few days before the filming. We're not allowed to read till the end. The director thinks it might affects our acting. Like, because he's actually like this... that's why he's acting like this in this episode.... or coz in a later episode, this will happen... she was like this in this episode.... and we might naturally think too much on how we should act our roles... so its better if we don't know what's gonna happen yet, just like the characters who doesn't know what's gonna happen in the future..."
In an interview with Katori Shingo in TV LIFE that just come out today, he said,
"I've read up the script up to Episode 5 now. And when I found out more about Eiji's past life, I was like "Usoooo~~!!"(no way). The staff who had read the script to the end, said to me, there are just so many things going on in the past and the future.
Due to the big developments of the story, we, the casts, are not allowed to read the script of the later episodes yet. We read one episode script, just few days before the filming. We're not allowed to read till the end. The director thinks it might affects our acting. Like, because he's actually like this... that's why he's acting like this in this episode.... or coz in a later episode, this will happen... she was like this in this episode.... and we might naturally think too much on how we should act our roles... so its better if we don't know what's gonna happen yet, just like the characters who doesn't know what's gonna happen in the future..."
^^Don't worry about it. I had read some people's speculations/predictions before and kind of saw it coming
That's quite a good idea the Director had. It seems it would let the person actor in the moment and not be biased against something that would happen in the future or give away anything with their acting about the future.
That's quite a good idea the Director had. It seems it would let the person actor in the moment and not be biased against something that would happen in the future or give away anything with their acting about the future.
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I joined some interesting clips of Bara no nai Hanaya's promo shows, interviews and the making. And it's also subtitled in English. Thanks alot to megumi and pegsball for helping me with the subs!
I like the casts' interactions! Terajima (the cafe master's actor) really talk as much as he likes xD lol!
For fans of the drama, I recommend this
Size: 332 MB
Duration: 20 mins
Video link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IY1NWEX7
English softsub link: http://www.mediafire.com/?fz37lgygim0
I like the casts' interactions! Terajima (the cafe master's actor) really talk as much as he likes xD lol!
For fans of the drama, I recommend this
Size: 332 MB
Duration: 20 mins
Video link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IY1NWEX7
English softsub link: http://www.mediafire.com/?fz37lgygim0
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Wow Yanie thanks!!
Its great when they sub doramas but that comes as natural these days but subbing these TV specials are the best!! Thanks for providing the link...I was happy just watch the specials not understanding any dialogue but this is great!!
Its great when they sub doramas but that comes as natural these days but subbing these TV specials are the best!! Thanks for providing the link...I was happy just watch the specials not understanding any dialogue but this is great!!
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Rumours on Katori Shingo and Takeuchi Yuko...
(note: hitomishiri = shy, not good in interacting with people he just get to know.)
The "Hitomishiri" Katori Shingo is Drawn (Attracted) to Takeuchi Yuko?
Daily Cyzo, 23.01.2008
translated by Yanie
SMAP's Katori Shingo and Takeuchi Yuko, the pair of leads of the primetime slot drama "Bara no nai Hanaya", their intimacy in the filming location has become a topic.
An insider from the Bara no nai Hanaya filming set (a staff) gave a testimony, "Katori-san and Takeuchi-san gets along very well on the set. From what I've heard from other people who has worked with him and know him better, Katori-san is too much of the "hitomishiri" type. Most of the time, he just locks himself inside his own changing room during filming breaks. However, this time, on the set, we can often see him talking with Takeuchi-san. Moreover, it is Katori-san who gets quite active starting the topic of chats with her,".
Adding his comment on the TV interview with her, "It feels like it's not the first time...", it seems Katori has gotten attracted to Takeuchi.
Takeuchi has been known well as the "Co-star Killer". She is currently in a divorce process with Nakamura Shido II, though it doesn't seem it'll come to an end soon. Her son's custody is a big problem. In the middle of this difficult and stressing situation and now that she has Katori by her side to make her laugh, it's not impossible that she'd fall in love with the man who can make her feel better. In an interview, Takeuchi said, "There's no rose on the filming set, but it has lots of love," this comment sounded like it has a deeper meaning now.
By acting together in this drama, there might be a chance of new love to bloom between this two. Seem like, from now on, everyone will start to pay attention closely to their acting in the drama "Bara no nai Hanaya", as well as their private lives.
source:
http://www.misakiblog.net/archives/493985.html
http://blog.livedoor.jp/dragons_victory ... 64103.html
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Note that Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko's movie together where they first met in 2004, was "Ima, Ai ni Yukimasu"(Be with You) :
Ima, Wakare ni Yukimasu (Part with You)
translated by Yanie
Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko has FINALLY hand over the divorce application to the ward office in January 27th, 2008, and that their divorce case has been settled.
Their son's custody case was a big problem, since Shido want his son to inherit his kabuki family generation and of course, he wanted to educate him to be a kabuki actor. But if Takeuchi takes custody of their son, he'll loose all the rights to do all these. Takeuchi Yuko filed the divorce papers and hired a divorce lawyer since October 2006. Ironically, their marriage was a speed shotgun, but their divorce took this long.
Eventually, Shido lost the case, and it has been decided that Takeuchi Yuko will take custody of their son from now on.
Meanwhile, in the filming set of "Bara no nai Hanaya", there has been rumours that Takeuchi is romantically involved with her co-star, Katori Shingo. Since her divorce case is almost settled, perhaps she's ready for a new romance. Let's just hope she'd able to find a man who doesn't do illicit affairs, this time.
source: http://www.nekomimi-news.net/archives/601623.html
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Could it be the producers are not satisfied with the 22-19-18% ratings, so they spread the rumours to increase the ratings?
IF Shingo and Yuko is true...their situation would be more or less the same with Eiji and Mio. A romance with a divorcee/single parent with one child^^
(note: hitomishiri = shy, not good in interacting with people he just get to know.)
The "Hitomishiri" Katori Shingo is Drawn (Attracted) to Takeuchi Yuko?
Daily Cyzo, 23.01.2008
translated by Yanie
SMAP's Katori Shingo and Takeuchi Yuko, the pair of leads of the primetime slot drama "Bara no nai Hanaya", their intimacy in the filming location has become a topic.
An insider from the Bara no nai Hanaya filming set (a staff) gave a testimony, "Katori-san and Takeuchi-san gets along very well on the set. From what I've heard from other people who has worked with him and know him better, Katori-san is too much of the "hitomishiri" type. Most of the time, he just locks himself inside his own changing room during filming breaks. However, this time, on the set, we can often see him talking with Takeuchi-san. Moreover, it is Katori-san who gets quite active starting the topic of chats with her,".
Adding his comment on the TV interview with her, "It feels like it's not the first time...", it seems Katori has gotten attracted to Takeuchi.
Takeuchi has been known well as the "Co-star Killer". She is currently in a divorce process with Nakamura Shido II, though it doesn't seem it'll come to an end soon. Her son's custody is a big problem. In the middle of this difficult and stressing situation and now that she has Katori by her side to make her laugh, it's not impossible that she'd fall in love with the man who can make her feel better. In an interview, Takeuchi said, "There's no rose on the filming set, but it has lots of love," this comment sounded like it has a deeper meaning now.
By acting together in this drama, there might be a chance of new love to bloom between this two. Seem like, from now on, everyone will start to pay attention closely to their acting in the drama "Bara no nai Hanaya", as well as their private lives.
source:
http://www.misakiblog.net/archives/493985.html
http://blog.livedoor.jp/dragons_victory ... 64103.html
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Note that Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko's movie together where they first met in 2004, was "Ima, Ai ni Yukimasu"(Be with You) :
Ima, Wakare ni Yukimasu (Part with You)
translated by Yanie
Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko has FINALLY hand over the divorce application to the ward office in January 27th, 2008, and that their divorce case has been settled.
Their son's custody case was a big problem, since Shido want his son to inherit his kabuki family generation and of course, he wanted to educate him to be a kabuki actor. But if Takeuchi takes custody of their son, he'll loose all the rights to do all these. Takeuchi Yuko filed the divorce papers and hired a divorce lawyer since October 2006. Ironically, their marriage was a speed shotgun, but their divorce took this long.
Eventually, Shido lost the case, and it has been decided that Takeuchi Yuko will take custody of their son from now on.
Meanwhile, in the filming set of "Bara no nai Hanaya", there has been rumours that Takeuchi is romantically involved with her co-star, Katori Shingo. Since her divorce case is almost settled, perhaps she's ready for a new romance. Let's just hope she'd able to find a man who doesn't do illicit affairs, this time.
source: http://www.nekomimi-news.net/archives/601623.html
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Could it be the producers are not satisfied with the 22-19-18% ratings, so they spread the rumours to increase the ratings?
IF Shingo and Yuko is true...their situation would be more or less the same with Eiji and Mio. A romance with a divorcee/single parent with one child^^
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Hey, still haven't watched the third episode, but I've been reading all these rumours about Shingo and Yuko. I really don't know what to think: Shingo is said to be in a relationship with some former OL (Office Lady) for almost 9 years now. I think Yuko and Shingo really match, I mean, you can see the magic around them... I guess
But oh Lord, can you imagine if this is all true and Yuko gets her child's custody?? I would be the happiest child in the world, just being around Shingo-kun *fan mode*
But oh Lord, can you imagine if this is all true and Yuko gets her child's custody?? I would be the happiest child in the world, just being around Shingo-kun *fan mode*
Interesting articles, yanie, thanks for the translation
Even after the decline the ratings aren't bad by any means, you might even say it's natural for a show to lose a certain percentage of its viewership after the pilot. I'm not worried about the trend so far, hopefully the producers aren't either.
What an extremely cynical point of view...I like it! That could very well be true, and I wouldn't put anything past anyone when it comes to the quest for ratings. Though I'd also like to think this show is good enough that it doesn't need to resort to such devious tactics.yanie wrote:Could it be the producers are not satisfied with the 22-19-18% ratings, so they spread the rumours to increase the ratings?
Even after the decline the ratings aren't bad by any means, you might even say it's natural for a show to lose a certain percentage of its viewership after the pilot. I'm not worried about the trend so far, hopefully the producers aren't either.
Its great you understand japanese Yanie, your translations and subbings are super great!! Thanks!!
I wouldn't speculate so much..I think Yuko san is just a very charismatic person and she seems to make people who are around her want to like and get to know her...so I think its only natural that Shingo san is friendly to her...plus the fact this is very much a human drama and also romantic/love story as well so its all good that they communication well offset and both parties don't retreat to their own closets after the yell of 'cut!' Whether is just friendship or something more..I'm just far too happy with the drama, their chemistry and their pairing to really care too much cos I'm so satisfied already!!
As for blind people cooking...there are many people who became blind so they once had vision which would justify them being able to cook...and if those that were blind since birth can live independently so I'm sure livng independently includes cooking. ~This is all my own assumption!
I wouldn't speculate so much..I think Yuko san is just a very charismatic person and she seems to make people who are around her want to like and get to know her...so I think its only natural that Shingo san is friendly to her...plus the fact this is very much a human drama and also romantic/love story as well so its all good that they communication well offset and both parties don't retreat to their own closets after the yell of 'cut!' Whether is just friendship or something more..I'm just far too happy with the drama, their chemistry and their pairing to really care too much cos I'm so satisfied already!!
As for blind people cooking...there are many people who became blind so they once had vision which would justify them being able to cook...and if those that were blind since birth can live independently so I'm sure livng independently includes cooking. ~This is all my own assumption!
Just finished watching episode 2. This is one of the most obvious dramas I have seen in a long time, perhaps ever. And yet it's so captivating!
I think what will make it interesting in the long run is to see what other obstacles Eiji and Mio have to go overcome after he discovers she's not blind, which I hope happens very soon.
I think what will make it interesting in the long run is to see what other obstacles Eiji and Mio have to go overcome after he discovers she's not blind, which I hope happens very soon.
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Oh, my God!! Eiji! You bastard! How could you??! I don't think I can believe him anymore, after I know what happened between him and Shizuku's mother!! His kind-hearted nature and all, might be lies!
I cried twice watching tonight's episode.... in the middle, and in the end.
I cried twice watching tonight's episode.... in the middle, and in the end.
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you can find the subtitled videos here actually, just go to the torrentLove2000AMGlam wrote:Ahhh cliff hanger!
Are there subtitled videos somewhere yet? I would like to rewatch it with subs to make more sense of what is going on.
love song is subbing this series and they've done such a great job at it ...
anyway ... i'm a person with no restraint at all
so i've clicked on every single spoiler here!!!
and it looks like this drama has more layers than we can see ...
i love the development of the story ... it keeps me guessing cause what i'm seeing is most probably not the real thing (like there are secret undertones in everything, a story behind a story)
i really really hope that this drama won't turn into a dark korean drama kind of thing ...
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Scans from various magazines, spoiler pics up to Ep4:
Terajima Susumu (the cafe master) and Shaku Yumiko(Ono Yuki-sensei) will be guests in Bistro SMAP Feb 11th, next Monday!!! Wow... this is the first time Bistro Smap have guests to promote the same drama TWICE!!@_@ They really goes all out to promote this! From the article, it seems like Terajima Susumu is such a hillarious person!^^ I cannot wait, Terajima IS an interesting person!^^
source: http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/ss
And Takeuchi Yuko will be guest in Shingo's variety program, SmaStation, a live show program in Feb 9th, Saturday. She suppose to promote her latest movie, Team Batista (where she play the role as a doctor/heart transplant surgeon), but I guess it is a good promo for "bara no nai hanaya" too^^
Terajima Susumu (the cafe master) and Shaku Yumiko(Ono Yuki-sensei) will be guests in Bistro SMAP Feb 11th, next Monday!!! Wow... this is the first time Bistro Smap have guests to promote the same drama TWICE!!@_@ They really goes all out to promote this! From the article, it seems like Terajima Susumu is such a hillarious person!^^ I cannot wait, Terajima IS an interesting person!^^
source: http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/ss
And Takeuchi Yuko will be guest in Shingo's variety program, SmaStation, a live show program in Feb 9th, Saturday. She suppose to promote her latest movie, Team Batista (where she play the role as a doctor/heart transplant surgeon), but I guess it is a good promo for "bara no nai hanaya" too^^
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Original screenplay by Nojima Shinji (a famous drama scriptwriter). Thus, the media has been making a fuss over this drama, due to the success of the pilot episode achieving 22.4% rating and for being the first original drama which is not a manga or novel adaptation in 1.5 years that passed 20% rating.kiddygrade wrote:I have a question : is this series based on an original screeplay, or is it adapted from a novel or manga? DramaWiki doesn't give a hint, so if someone could enlighten me? Thanks in advance
Oh, this drama gets positive reviews in newspapers too^^ I read one in saturday's Nikkei (japanese economy) Newspaper the other day.
It seems rather odd that an economist newspaper is covering a tv show. I can understand a 'regular' newspaper covering tv ratings, etc. but not an economist newspaper.yanie wrote:Oh, this drama gets positive reviews in newspapers too^^ I read one in saturday's Nikkei (japanese economy) Newspaper the other day.
EDIT: Not related to the previous post, but does anyone know if there is an official / unofficial OST for this series yet?
An economist paper is allowed to have pages for TV schedules, right? "Bara" review is on that page^^ And its the Saturday edition afterall (less-serious contents edition^^).voth wrote:It seems rather odd that an economist newspaper is covering a tv show. I can understand a 'regular' newspaper covering tv ratings, etc. but not an economist newspaper.yanie wrote:Oh, this drama gets positive reviews in newspapers too^^ I read one in saturday's Nikkei (japanese economy) Newspaper the other day.
EDIT: Not related to the previous post, but does anyone know if there is an official / unofficial OST for this series yet?
Bara no nai Hanaya OST will be released on Feb 20th.
Does anyone have opinion on what the Ending Titleback symbolize?
In SMAPxSMAP skit 2 weeks ago, Kimura Takuya suddenly asked Shingo abt the drama's titleback, "That snow titleback! Does it has anything to do with the ending??". Shingo just smile mischeviously and replied, "Please, watch that titleback again and pay attention to the flow of the sequences,".
Then I read many articles in the magazines, and it says that the titleback has hints of Eiji and Mio's future. Shingo and Yuko's comments are...
Yuko: Pay attention to the way Eiji and Mio falls, Eiji was facing down and Mio was facing up. Also the directions when they lie on the snow. It all indicates something. I guess, the way Eiji and Mio meet and NOT looking at each other although they are face to face, must have gotten people thought that it's not gonna be a happy ending ne~
Shingo: This titleback give a lot of hints. I'd be happy if the audience are paying attention closely to this titleback, since we filmed it in such a hard, cold weather that day (laughs). Pay attention on how Eiji and Mio's hands were about to touch each other's, but then it separates.
One of the article also says that the ALL-WHITE atmosphere in this titleback depict something.
I have never seen a beautiful and meaningful titleback like this since Sleeping Forest!^^ In Sleeping Forest's last episode, if I remember correctly the titleback was extended a bit with more clear sequences and it symbolize each character's ending. I wonder if Nakae Isamu, the director, will extend Bara's titleback (he's also Sleeping Forest's director) in the last episode too.
Nakae Isamu, the director, talks about the drama:
"Nojima Shinji's scripts are always difficult to realize. He has his own way in writing speed tempo dialogues. And there are dialogues that would never happen in real-life. So, there's no other way but to create it's own world for this drama to fit in the dialogues. The most important parts for this drama's story are the casts' acting and performances.
Also, in the last scene of Episode 1. The scene where Eiji and Mio embrace each other in the middle of the rain at the intersection. There's this one line written on the script, "In the middle of the intersection, one stalk of red rose is blooming."
How am I suppose to realize this??! Suddenly there's a red rose blooming in the middle of the intersection? So then I just played some special effects with the red umbrella from above view and made it look like a red rose. I don't usually do special effects like this for dramas. But just this time, to realize Nojima Shinji's scripts, I must do things I don't usually do. It's like a challenge for me.
It's been 15 years since I worked together with Shingo (*a drama titled "Onegai Demon", about a demon family disguising as humans^^;). It's been so long since then, so it felt like working with him for the first time. I really felt like, it's been a long time since I meet a wonderful actor like him. Though it seems like he's a tough guy, he's actually a delicate, gentle person and doesn't talk much. He resembles Eiji alot. Eiji's character and way of talking that never express his feelings clearly and firmly, is actually Shingo's own way of portrayal. Shingo created this part of Eiji's character himself. But if I think on what's gonna happen inside Eiji from now on, it is perfectly done and suits the character very much.
Mio is a frank and cheerful lady, but she can never express her realself and has turned to a serious person. Then she meet Eiji, and she's able to be herself since then. Actually, the titleback was also made based on these. The man who always escape from reality, went through ups and downs in his life, until he meet one lady, and he starts to be able to walk in stable and he walk towards her. But before they are able to hold each other's hands, why do they fall on the snow?? I cannot answer that (laughs).
There will be more riddles answered from now on. Actually ROSE is to symbolize Eiji. So, will the time, of roses finally arranged in rows in his flower shop, come someday? Let's look forward to many things in this drama!"
(TV Life, Feb 2nd - 15th edition, page 10)
In SMAPxSMAP skit 2 weeks ago, Kimura Takuya suddenly asked Shingo abt the drama's titleback, "That snow titleback! Does it has anything to do with the ending??". Shingo just smile mischeviously and replied, "Please, watch that titleback again and pay attention to the flow of the sequences,".
Then I read many articles in the magazines, and it says that the titleback has hints of Eiji and Mio's future. Shingo and Yuko's comments are...
Yuko: Pay attention to the way Eiji and Mio falls, Eiji was facing down and Mio was facing up. Also the directions when they lie on the snow. It all indicates something. I guess, the way Eiji and Mio meet and NOT looking at each other although they are face to face, must have gotten people thought that it's not gonna be a happy ending ne~
Shingo: This titleback give a lot of hints. I'd be happy if the audience are paying attention closely to this titleback, since we filmed it in such a hard, cold weather that day (laughs). Pay attention on how Eiji and Mio's hands were about to touch each other's, but then it separates.
One of the article also says that the ALL-WHITE atmosphere in this titleback depict something.
I have never seen a beautiful and meaningful titleback like this since Sleeping Forest!^^ In Sleeping Forest's last episode, if I remember correctly the titleback was extended a bit with more clear sequences and it symbolize each character's ending. I wonder if Nakae Isamu, the director, will extend Bara's titleback (he's also Sleeping Forest's director) in the last episode too.
Nakae Isamu, the director, talks about the drama:
"Nojima Shinji's scripts are always difficult to realize. He has his own way in writing speed tempo dialogues. And there are dialogues that would never happen in real-life. So, there's no other way but to create it's own world for this drama to fit in the dialogues. The most important parts for this drama's story are the casts' acting and performances.
Also, in the last scene of Episode 1. The scene where Eiji and Mio embrace each other in the middle of the rain at the intersection. There's this one line written on the script, "In the middle of the intersection, one stalk of red rose is blooming."
How am I suppose to realize this??! Suddenly there's a red rose blooming in the middle of the intersection? So then I just played some special effects with the red umbrella from above view and made it look like a red rose. I don't usually do special effects like this for dramas. But just this time, to realize Nojima Shinji's scripts, I must do things I don't usually do. It's like a challenge for me.
It's been 15 years since I worked together with Shingo (*a drama titled "Onegai Demon", about a demon family disguising as humans^^;). It's been so long since then, so it felt like working with him for the first time. I really felt like, it's been a long time since I meet a wonderful actor like him. Though it seems like he's a tough guy, he's actually a delicate, gentle person and doesn't talk much. He resembles Eiji alot. Eiji's character and way of talking that never express his feelings clearly and firmly, is actually Shingo's own way of portrayal. Shingo created this part of Eiji's character himself. But if I think on what's gonna happen inside Eiji from now on, it is perfectly done and suits the character very much.
Mio is a frank and cheerful lady, but she can never express her realself and has turned to a serious person. Then she meet Eiji, and she's able to be herself since then. Actually, the titleback was also made based on these. The man who always escape from reality, went through ups and downs in his life, until he meet one lady, and he starts to be able to walk in stable and he walk towards her. But before they are able to hold each other's hands, why do they fall on the snow?? I cannot answer that (laughs).
There will be more riddles answered from now on. Actually ROSE is to symbolize Eiji. So, will the time, of roses finally arranged in rows in his flower shop, come someday? Let's look forward to many things in this drama!"
(TV Life, Feb 2nd - 15th edition, page 10)
BARA NO NAI HANAYA
Let's Break The Riddles' "Thorns"!
guided by Katori Shingo & Takeuchi Yuko
(The Television Weekly, Feb 9th - 15th edition, page 86-87)
translated by Yanie
[note: spoilers up to Ep4!]
Thorn 1:
"Kanojo" 's video letters contains keywords to solve the story?
Katori: The video letters are very important. To the audience who pay attention closely to it, might notice something!
Takeuchi: I think the biggest hint is that it solves the story's riddles. Why do you think "kanojo" talk to the camera and say "kimi"(you)? I guess, it's not something you should concern much. But later on, you might go, "Eh?".
(note: Japanese women don't usually use "kimi", "kimi" is the Japanese men's words to use. Women use "anata". Unless it's boyish, tomboy girls... I don't think Japanese women would use "kimi")
Thorn 2:
What happened in Eiji's past?
Katori: Kanojo said, "Eiji is a man who didn't know love". He must've changed since Shizuku was born, ne.
Takeuchi: Kanojo said, "You are a lonely man". When you hear that, you might have start to think "What's Eiji's background?". You think it relates to "the unkind Eiji"?
Thorn 3:
What does the All-White ending titleback means?
Katori: There are lots of hints here~! I'd be happy if the audience are paying attention closely to this titleback, since we filmed it in such a hard, cold weather that day (laughs). Pay attention on how Eiji and Mio's hands were about to touch each other's, but then it separates.
Takeuchi: There might be something with the directions Eiji and Mio falls, also their gaze directions. It all indicates something. I guess, the way they are NOT looking at each other although they are face to face, must have gotten people thought that it's not gonna be a happy ending ne~
Mini-Thorn:
How do they divide the rooms in Shiomi's house?
There are 4 people in the house at the moment. Hishida and Shizuku sleep together in the bedroom. Eiji sleep in the living room. Where does Naoya sleep?
Katori: Yeah, I wonder where does Naoya sleep...? It must be around there somewhere. (laughs) I don't think he pay the house rent. Perhaps, his daily life is just playing around with Shizuku, and take care of the shop when Eiji goes to meet Mio, ne.
Suddenly, there are 2 people moved in to the house. Is Eiji and Shizuku's financial condition alright??
Thorn 4:
Will Mio keep on lying to Eiji?
Mio has started to have feelings for real for Eiji. In Episode 4, she said to him, "I believe you". Does this mean she's gonna tell him the truth?
Takeuchi: The first time Mio met Eiji, she was a blind person. Since due to that fact, she was able to meet and have this relationship with him, Mio might have been thinking, "If I'm not acting blind, I won't have a reason to meet him,".
Thorn 5:
Anzai's hatred to Eiji cannot be erased?
Takeuchi: I wonder what will happen when Mio's feelings to Eiji turns real? If even that time comes, and Anzai keeps going with the plan. How much hatred does he has, that he's able to play around with people's feelings? I wish Shizuku can melt her grandfather's heart, ne.
Thorn 6:
How will Eiji and Mio's romance continue?
Ever since Shizuku's mother died, Eiji said he has forgotten romance. But then he's attracted to Mio who has a "blooming-flower" smile. In Episode 4, Eiji and Mio has taken themselves to another level, embracing each other. The problem is, if Mio continue to pretend to be blind. When Eiji finds out about this, what will happen then?
Katori: I want these two to be normally happy. Is that impossible...? (laughs) I hope Eiji would give a rose (that indicates "a never-changing love") to Mio someday.
Takeuchi: I always feel like telling Mio, "It's alright! Eiji-san will accept and understand you. So, better tell him now! Tell him the truth before it's too late!".
Mini-Thorn:
Will Shigo's love comes true?
He's even more pure than Eiji? The COLON cafe master, Shigo's romance, will it come true?
Katori: I really hope master's romance will go smooth, ne~ Though he's a cool person in front of Eiji, he always act different in front of sensei (laughs). He should've just act normally, ne.
Episode 5 Synopsis
Let's Break The Riddles' "Thorns"!
guided by Katori Shingo & Takeuchi Yuko
(The Television Weekly, Feb 9th - 15th edition, page 86-87)
translated by Yanie
[note: spoilers up to Ep4!]
Thorn 1:
"Kanojo" 's video letters contains keywords to solve the story?
Katori: The video letters are very important. To the audience who pay attention closely to it, might notice something!
Takeuchi: I think the biggest hint is that it solves the story's riddles. Why do you think "kanojo" talk to the camera and say "kimi"(you)? I guess, it's not something you should concern much. But later on, you might go, "Eh?".
(note: Japanese women don't usually use "kimi", "kimi" is the Japanese men's words to use. Women use "anata". Unless it's boyish, tomboy girls... I don't think Japanese women would use "kimi")
Thorn 2:
What happened in Eiji's past?
Katori: Kanojo said, "Eiji is a man who didn't know love". He must've changed since Shizuku was born, ne.
Takeuchi: Kanojo said, "You are a lonely man". When you hear that, you might have start to think "What's Eiji's background?". You think it relates to "the unkind Eiji"?
Thorn 3:
What does the All-White ending titleback means?
Katori: There are lots of hints here~! I'd be happy if the audience are paying attention closely to this titleback, since we filmed it in such a hard, cold weather that day (laughs). Pay attention on how Eiji and Mio's hands were about to touch each other's, but then it separates.
Takeuchi: There might be something with the directions Eiji and Mio falls, also their gaze directions. It all indicates something. I guess, the way they are NOT looking at each other although they are face to face, must have gotten people thought that it's not gonna be a happy ending ne~
Mini-Thorn:
How do they divide the rooms in Shiomi's house?
There are 4 people in the house at the moment. Hishida and Shizuku sleep together in the bedroom. Eiji sleep in the living room. Where does Naoya sleep?
Katori: Yeah, I wonder where does Naoya sleep...? It must be around there somewhere. (laughs) I don't think he pay the house rent. Perhaps, his daily life is just playing around with Shizuku, and take care of the shop when Eiji goes to meet Mio, ne.
Suddenly, there are 2 people moved in to the house. Is Eiji and Shizuku's financial condition alright??
Thorn 4:
Will Mio keep on lying to Eiji?
Mio has started to have feelings for real for Eiji. In Episode 4, she said to him, "I believe you". Does this mean she's gonna tell him the truth?
Takeuchi: The first time Mio met Eiji, she was a blind person. Since due to that fact, she was able to meet and have this relationship with him, Mio might have been thinking, "If I'm not acting blind, I won't have a reason to meet him,".
Thorn 5:
Anzai's hatred to Eiji cannot be erased?
Takeuchi: I wonder what will happen when Mio's feelings to Eiji turns real? If even that time comes, and Anzai keeps going with the plan. How much hatred does he has, that he's able to play around with people's feelings? I wish Shizuku can melt her grandfather's heart, ne.
Thorn 6:
How will Eiji and Mio's romance continue?
Ever since Shizuku's mother died, Eiji said he has forgotten romance. But then he's attracted to Mio who has a "blooming-flower" smile. In Episode 4, Eiji and Mio has taken themselves to another level, embracing each other. The problem is, if Mio continue to pretend to be blind. When Eiji finds out about this, what will happen then?
Katori: I want these two to be normally happy. Is that impossible...? (laughs) I hope Eiji would give a rose (that indicates "a never-changing love") to Mio someday.
Takeuchi: I always feel like telling Mio, "It's alright! Eiji-san will accept and understand you. So, better tell him now! Tell him the truth before it's too late!".
Mini-Thorn:
Will Shigo's love comes true?
He's even more pure than Eiji? The COLON cafe master, Shigo's romance, will it come true?
Katori: I really hope master's romance will go smooth, ne~ Though he's a cool person in front of Eiji, he always act different in front of sensei (laughs). He should've just act normally, ne.
Episode 5 Synopsis
Shizuku, Shizuku, Shizuku INTERVIEWS!!
translated by Yanie
Yagi Yuki (the child actress who's playing Shizuku) INTERVIEW 1
(TV Life, Feb 2nd - 15th edition, page 10)
Q. Is the filming fun?
It's fun! Katori-san always play with me, and he often carry or give me a ride on his shoulder too. Katori-san's shoulder ride is alot higher than my own father! He often give me some toys too, and today he bring my favorite snack. Then I just realized recently, that Katori-san is a very popular person. Just the other day, when the filming was over and I exited the studio together with him, there were girls screaming towards him, "Kyaaa!" like that, and I was very surprised!
Q. You didn't know he's popular, ne. (laughs)
By the way, how's acting?
It's fun. Before it starts, I was so nervous, "can I do this?". Then, turn out I can do it, I'm so happy!
Q. Yuki-chan, do you think you have the same character as Shizuku-chan?
I think Shizuku-chan is much more mature than me. I mean, she can use the portable calculator and understand money calculation. I don't understand how to calculate money yet. But that's exactly why acting is fun, because the character is alot different than me. To recite lines like adults, I like it, it's fun!
Q. So, do you want to continue acting from now on?
Yes! I want to keep acting forever!
Q. Yuki-chan, what do you think will happen to your dad (Katori) and Mio-neesan (Takeuchi)?
Uunn.... I think they'll get married. I think daddy likes Mio-san.
Yagi Yuki INTERVIEW 2
(Josei Jishin, Feb 19th edition)
Daddy & Shizuku-chan's Talk!!
Shizuku: I do not watch television much, so I didn't know that daddy is a popular guy in SMAP, heehee....
Katori: Yeah, she didn't know. During the filming at the bus stop, when highschool girls were coming, she said to me, "hee... daddy, you're popular, ne~" (laughs)
Shizuku: But even from the first time I met daddy, I already think he's a great person, kakkoii and tall!
Katori: Shizuku-chan really has a great actress' soul, not only she memorize her own lines, she also memorize my lines. If I asked her, "What was it again?", she'll tell me my line perfectly.
Shizuku: Well, if you don't know the other character's line, you won't know the flow of the dialogues, right?
Katori: You'll definitely become a great actress, y'know.
Shizuku: Yes, I want to become one. Just like Nakama Yukie-san...
Katori: Why not Takeuchi Yuko-san? (laughs)
Yagi Yuki INTERVIEW 3
(Official Website: http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/rose/index.html)
Q. How did you feel when it was decided you're going to play the role as Shizuku?
I was very happy. On the first round of audition, I didn't get to recite the lines perfectly, so I thought I didn't make it. But then they called me for the second round, and that time I got to recite the lines and acted smoothly, so I thought "It'll be great if they choose me". So I kept praying to God.
Q. What do you think of Katori Shingo-san?
I don't watch television much, so I didn't know what kind of person he is. But my friends in school, they all know who Katori-san is, and they all said to me, "Sugoi ne!"(that's so cool!) (laughs). But from the first time I met him, I think he's a great person. Just only by a few times talking to each other, we got along well immediately. During filming breaks, he taught me Trump Magic. It was such a cool magic, so I showed it to my family at home, but I failed and they found out the trick. (laughs)
Q. What kind of girl is Shizuku?
She's really mature. Especially when she talk to daddy (Eiji) and master (Shigo = Terajima Susumu), she looks like an adult. I enjoyed acting as Shizuku, a different character than myself.
Q. Is it hard to memorize the lines?
Yes. Today's line is also pretty long, so I was so nervous coming to the studio, thinking, "I should not forget the lines,". I always memorize the lines by reading it once, then turnover the script and try to recite without looking at it. Then I make sure whether or not it's right. If its not, I'll do it once again, until I memorize it. When I've memorized it, I'll ask my mom to be the other character and practice reading it together with me.
Q. In Episode 1, Shizuku kept wearing that hood, ne.
It was very hot. (laughs) It was alright for me to talk in the hood, but seem like other people couldn't hear me, so during the filming they kept telling me, "Talk louder, please". It was so troublesome when I had to wear the hood.
Q. In the drama, Shizuku draw pictures of "Chiroru" and Eiji-san, how about Yuki-chan, can you draw?
I also love drawing pictures! I draw pictures of the view around me, in daily life too. The pictures Chiroru and daddy, appeared in the drama, it was all drawn by me.
Q. Are you enjoying acting?
Yes. I'm really enjoying it. From now on, I want to try to act various kind of roles.
translated by Yanie
Yagi Yuki (the child actress who's playing Shizuku) INTERVIEW 1
(TV Life, Feb 2nd - 15th edition, page 10)
Q. Is the filming fun?
It's fun! Katori-san always play with me, and he often carry or give me a ride on his shoulder too. Katori-san's shoulder ride is alot higher than my own father! He often give me some toys too, and today he bring my favorite snack. Then I just realized recently, that Katori-san is a very popular person. Just the other day, when the filming was over and I exited the studio together with him, there were girls screaming towards him, "Kyaaa!" like that, and I was very surprised!
Q. You didn't know he's popular, ne. (laughs)
By the way, how's acting?
It's fun. Before it starts, I was so nervous, "can I do this?". Then, turn out I can do it, I'm so happy!
Q. Yuki-chan, do you think you have the same character as Shizuku-chan?
I think Shizuku-chan is much more mature than me. I mean, she can use the portable calculator and understand money calculation. I don't understand how to calculate money yet. But that's exactly why acting is fun, because the character is alot different than me. To recite lines like adults, I like it, it's fun!
Q. So, do you want to continue acting from now on?
Yes! I want to keep acting forever!
Q. Yuki-chan, what do you think will happen to your dad (Katori) and Mio-neesan (Takeuchi)?
Uunn.... I think they'll get married. I think daddy likes Mio-san.
Yagi Yuki INTERVIEW 2
(Josei Jishin, Feb 19th edition)
Daddy & Shizuku-chan's Talk!!
Shizuku: I do not watch television much, so I didn't know that daddy is a popular guy in SMAP, heehee....
Katori: Yeah, she didn't know. During the filming at the bus stop, when highschool girls were coming, she said to me, "hee... daddy, you're popular, ne~" (laughs)
Shizuku: But even from the first time I met daddy, I already think he's a great person, kakkoii and tall!
Katori: Shizuku-chan really has a great actress' soul, not only she memorize her own lines, she also memorize my lines. If I asked her, "What was it again?", she'll tell me my line perfectly.
Shizuku: Well, if you don't know the other character's line, you won't know the flow of the dialogues, right?
Katori: You'll definitely become a great actress, y'know.
Shizuku: Yes, I want to become one. Just like Nakama Yukie-san...
Katori: Why not Takeuchi Yuko-san? (laughs)
Yagi Yuki INTERVIEW 3
(Official Website: http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/rose/index.html)
Q. How did you feel when it was decided you're going to play the role as Shizuku?
I was very happy. On the first round of audition, I didn't get to recite the lines perfectly, so I thought I didn't make it. But then they called me for the second round, and that time I got to recite the lines and acted smoothly, so I thought "It'll be great if they choose me". So I kept praying to God.
Q. What do you think of Katori Shingo-san?
I don't watch television much, so I didn't know what kind of person he is. But my friends in school, they all know who Katori-san is, and they all said to me, "Sugoi ne!"(that's so cool!) (laughs). But from the first time I met him, I think he's a great person. Just only by a few times talking to each other, we got along well immediately. During filming breaks, he taught me Trump Magic. It was such a cool magic, so I showed it to my family at home, but I failed and they found out the trick. (laughs)
Q. What kind of girl is Shizuku?
She's really mature. Especially when she talk to daddy (Eiji) and master (Shigo = Terajima Susumu), she looks like an adult. I enjoyed acting as Shizuku, a different character than myself.
Q. Is it hard to memorize the lines?
Yes. Today's line is also pretty long, so I was so nervous coming to the studio, thinking, "I should not forget the lines,". I always memorize the lines by reading it once, then turnover the script and try to recite without looking at it. Then I make sure whether or not it's right. If its not, I'll do it once again, until I memorize it. When I've memorized it, I'll ask my mom to be the other character and practice reading it together with me.
Q. In Episode 1, Shizuku kept wearing that hood, ne.
It was very hot. (laughs) It was alright for me to talk in the hood, but seem like other people couldn't hear me, so during the filming they kept telling me, "Talk louder, please". It was so troublesome when I had to wear the hood.
Q. In the drama, Shizuku draw pictures of "Chiroru" and Eiji-san, how about Yuki-chan, can you draw?
I also love drawing pictures! I draw pictures of the view around me, in daily life too. The pictures Chiroru and daddy, appeared in the drama, it was all drawn by me.
Q. Are you enjoying acting?
Yes. I'm really enjoying it. From now on, I want to try to act various kind of roles.
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Just my thoughts on how the story will go, after reading all the hints and spoilers for Ep5 (DO NOT read, if you don't want to know anything about Ep5, or my thoughts of what's gonna happen in the future):
It makes sense now, why Eiji and Mio's romance development is quite fast-paced If Korea and/or Taiwan adapt this drama, it might go as lengthy as 30 episodes or so
It makes sense now, why Eiji and Mio's romance development is quite fast-paced If Korea and/or Taiwan adapt this drama, it might go as lengthy as 30 episodes or so
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Thanks very much for your answers about the scenario
I have another (and more trivial) question : in episode 2, Mio goes to a karaoke, and I definitely know the song played (at 35'16 approx), but can't find the title. I think it's the OP or ED of some other drama but…
Can someone help me on that? Onegai shimasu !
I have another (and more trivial) question : in episode 2, Mio goes to a karaoke, and I definitely know the song played (at 35'16 approx), but can't find the title. I think it's the OP or ED of some other drama but…
Can someone help me on that? Onegai shimasu !
The title is yokogao by aiko.It`s the theme song for hotaru no hikari.kiddygrade wrote:Thanks very much for your answers about the scenario
I have another (and more trivial) question : in episode 2, Mio goes to a karaoke, and I definitely know the song played (at 35'16 approx), but can't find the title. I think it's the OP or ED of some other drama but…
Can someone help me on that? Onegai shimasu !
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Thanks very much, you are absolutely right !!! That's why I knew I knew this song !!!! But now, why dis they choose this particular title? Is there a joke intended? Or is it mere chance? I wonder… It seems that everything has a secret purpose in this series. By the way, in the same scene, am I wrong or the actor who played the head of the "artistic" dormitory in HanaKimi is playing the tambourine?
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That's the guy, yes. There seems to be a shortage of "small" actors in Japan, even for diminutive roles, they cast reknown actors, it is quite strange… Maybe we will see Horikita Maki in ep 8 (lol)?seirin wrote:You mean Nobuo? I dunno about the guy playing the tambourine but he was the guy who was at the "date gathering" and tried to hit on Mio but got rejected and he called her names.
He's been making a lot of appearances this season. I saw him in Negotiator too.
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Takeuchi Yuko appeared LIVE in SmaStation last night, Katori Shingo's variety program. This is quite a long review with many screencaps, so in case most of you are not interested, I put this inside the spoiler box.
Takeuchi Yuko came to the show to promote her latest movie, "Team Batista no Eikou" with Abe Hiroshi, that premiere yesterday. But somehow they blurt things about "Bara no nai Hanaya" alot more than the movie Interesting! And Shingo-Yuko's interaction is chummy, they look like a pair of hometown buddies^^
I love their unison gestures!
Takeuchi Yuko came to the show to promote her latest movie, "Team Batista no Eikou" with Abe Hiroshi, that premiere yesterday. But somehow they blurt things about "Bara no nai Hanaya" alot more than the movie Interesting! And Shingo-Yuko's interaction is chummy, they look like a pair of hometown buddies^^
I love their unison gestures!
Yanie-san...great big hug from me for you lovely screen caps and detailed translation! So grateful and I read every line with a huge smile..even without having the actual clips i still managed to imagine the show in my mind...how yuko-san and shingo-san talked..haha!!
Yes it'd be GREAT if someone could make the clip available download!!
But to make this post relate back to Bara...I gotta to say...CAN'T WAIT!! Only a few hours to go!
Yes it'd be GREAT if someone could make the clip available download!!
But to make this post relate back to Bara...I gotta to say...CAN'T WAIT!! Only a few hours to go!
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