[Discussion] Maou (Ohno Satoshi & Ikuta Toma)

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Post by toma_sis » May 24th, '08, 07:41

I also hope toma can sing with ohno for the drama theme...
BUT... I think maybe Arashi will sing the drama theme....
same like every Arashi member drama (HYD + nino&sho drama)... :glare:

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Post by aishoni2 » May 24th, '08, 13:43

toma_sis wrote:I also hope toma can sing with ohno for the drama theme...
BUT... I think maybe Arashi will sing the drama theme....
same like every Arashi member drama (HYD + nino&sho drama)... :glare:
hohoho.. a glare :P
Arashi singing emo theme song not a bad thing :) but I do prefer Toma involvement. Of course not a happy bubbly Arashi like single for this drama, that's for sure.
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i wanna watch it!!

Post by minamichan03 » May 24th, '08, 15:06

oh my...!! i really wanna watch this drama...
when it will be shown... but maybe,i'll just wait until it comes to dvd.. hehe :P

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Post by aishoni2 » May 30th, '08, 02:37

OZARASHI@vox just posted a whole compilation of infos and translation on Maou.
the link <-- click!
reading the translation of Maou's official website was really damaging to my poor soul. now i can't wait to see the drama RIGHT AWAY. One sentence that caught my attention was "I would like to depict a story of characters who struggle with the destiny diligently and in detail while leveraging on the strength of the original (Korean version)." I am glad the producer is aiming for the same dark brilliance of Mawang.

From Tokyograph (original source: Sponichi): Some Maou Casts Details
A few more cast members have been formally announced for the TBS drama series "Maou." The show, remade from a 2007 Korean series, was revealed earlier this month, starring Satoshi Ohno as a revenge-seeking lawyer and Toma Ikuta as a detective.

Hitori Gekidan will be playing an elite company president who is also Ikuta's older brother. Koji Ishizaka has been cast as their father, while Yuji Miyake plays Ikuta's boss.

It has also been mentioned that tarot cards will play a key role in the series. Gekidan commented that he has been studying tarot for some time.
(mmm... but his character were not involved in deciphering the tarot cards :P)
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Post by sarara » Jun 3rd, '08, 17:42

waiting for~~

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Post by aishoni2 » Jun 3rd, '08, 23:36

Ohno and Toma will be appearing on TFP2 (Tokyo Friend Park II). ^___________^
The date announced is on 23 June, however I'm not sure if its the air date or recording date.
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Post by GoddessCarlie » Jun 4th, '08, 00:21

I hope tarot cards will be involved and that they use them correctly, not just "oh no! It's the death card!!"
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Post by aishoni2 » Jun 4th, '08, 01:34

GoddessCarlie wrote:I hope tarot cards will be involved and that they use them correctly, not just "oh no! It's the death card!!"
Don't worry :), I believe they'll use the tarot card correctly. They've been announcing to the press and such that the tarot cards are crucial to the plot and disregarding the meanings would make them look stupid :3. I hope the producer/team keep their promise to deliver a clever and dramatic plot close to the original. (Mawang was AWESOME)
I think they might drop the psychometry and just focus on the cards instead. There's still no official announcement on the Psychic girl role.
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Post by goonggong » Jun 6th, '08, 21:47

I haven't actually sseen Ohno Satoshi, or maybe I have but I haven't actually taken notice of him, but I've seen ikuta toma, and I was kind of hoping he got the anti-hero part. I mean, I saw his acting in that first episode of HYD2, and he was diabolical... I kinda thought they would give the lawyer part to Toma since he looked a little more polished than the other one, making the duality of the character more effective. But heck, I believe Toma-kun will kick ass in the role, so I'm not that disappointed... I saw the Korean version (haven't gotten around to finishing it, though...), and I hope they would be able to reproduce or even surpass the dark feel of the drama... Toma-kun, ganbatte ne!

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Post by aishoni2 » Jun 10th, '08, 02:19

OZARASHI@vox have wonderfully translated the blog entries by Maou's assistent producer as well as other information from the official site.

I'm glad the team are fans of Mawang as well. Kobayashi Ryoko is confirmed as the heroin. At first I thought she was too young for the role but her looks fits perfectly to Ohno *praying for chemistry and sparks*. and I like her more now I know she's a fan of the original. SO EXCITING! :mrgreen:
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Post by MitsukaiKuroi » Jun 10th, '08, 02:32

I just had to type and say that this is SO cool! Ohno is the only one that really has not branched out of Arashi into the Dorama world (Unless you count that brief moment in Yamada Tarou +joke+ :P )

I can not wait to see this! I hope that the role suits him! :D

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Post by sarara » Jun 10th, '08, 11:49

MitsukaiKuroi wrote:I just had to type and say that this is SO cool! Ohno is the only one that really has not branched out of Arashi into the Dorama world (Unless you count that brief moment in Yamada Tarou +joke+ :P )

I can not wait to see this! I hope that the role suits him! :D

Ohno had said byself, that he doesn't like acting, but concerts are not same

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Post by sefilily » Jun 13th, '08, 17:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HLTzsZesJs

The 15 second CM on YouTube.

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Post by Ladymercury » Jun 13th, '08, 18:31

Did I say I was excited for this?

Let me say it again, I AM EXCITED FOR THIS DRAMA.

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Post by crabbyrat » Jun 14th, '08, 07:02

I am excited too!

And as for Ohno fitting the role, I wouldn't count him out just yet. He's a very accomplished stage actor (as well as Toma) and if the CM counts for anything he looks pretty frightening.

I have no doubt that most of the time this series will be compared to the original, so I hope this series will come into its own. I'll definitely be cheering this series on :)

I'm really looking forward to TFP2 as well!!

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Post by jazky2002 » Jun 14th, '08, 10:45

Judging from the cm, this actually looks interesting although i've never seen the korean version...

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Post by morimoli » Jun 14th, '08, 14:22

aishoni2 wrote:OZARASHI@vox just posted a whole compilation of infos and translation on Maou.
the link <-- click!
reading the translation of Maou's official website was really damaging to my poor soul.
Thanks for the link, that makes me want to see it even more as well!

Also, the date that the Maou cast will be on Tokyo Friend Park II was changed to June 30th, although the first announcement said the 23rd :-)
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Post by toma_sis » Jun 14th, '08, 16:08

aishoni2 :- thanks for the link...

the producer only think toma for that character...
hope toma will give the best for this drama..

Toma..gambate... and for ohno-kun also... :)
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Post by aishoni2 » Jun 18th, '08, 08:12

sorry can't resist. latest picture of Maou filming featuring NINOMIYA KAZUNARI ♥
OhMiya in Maou. credits: arashilatino.vox.com

Nino will play the son of an old defense lawyer.
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Post by NanaTorigawa » Jun 24th, '08, 02:02

*raise hans* going to watch this..b ut i dodn't knwo if this will be my main drama or if Code Blue will be....

*look at post above * nino tooo... hahahaah this will be great!!!!!!!

well i can't wait for this.... Watching it live too!!!!
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Post by aishoni2 » Jun 26th, '08, 14:22

Maou press conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgFMVhFDzuM
A different version of the cm. Nino & Ohno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzTOJ4kkOD0&feature=user

...I-i'll go keymash in private now..
*clicking the replay button for the 154645134 times*
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Post by atskv9 » Jun 26th, '08, 23:37

You can hear Arashi's "Truth" in the background!

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Post by Reigning_Ninya » Jun 27th, '08, 02:41

The press conference made me scream, even though I didn't understand anything lol. I just watched it and drooled. Ohno looks sooo good, while Toma is hot as always :sigh:

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Post by yuki15966 » Jun 27th, '08, 07:29

I look forward for the drama, it sounds interesting^^

and i tought the same aboutthe press conference, I didn t unterstand a word....

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Post by fourlc_raw » Jun 28th, '08, 05:15

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Post by aishoni2 » Jun 30th, '08, 09:37

Tokyo Friend Park II CM: http://youtube.com/watch?v=7BIPTBZAZLo

TONIGHT! ^_______________^v
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Post by boxxx » Jul 1st, '08, 06:54

hey, does anyone know if someone is going to fansub this? I hope so...

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Post by Fallona » Jul 1st, '08, 07:30

I'm soooo looking forward for this drama
Ohno and Toma did a great job on it judging from the CMs

*raise hans* going to watch this..b ut i dodn't knwo if this will be my main drama or if Code Blue will be....
hopefully maou would
personally i'm not excited about code blue so much ...i think its just another medical drama while maou has a better story i think!!
i didn't even feel excited while watching code blue cms ....anyway if code blue was the main drama then i guess I know why ...take a look at the leading role xD I don't like him myself really

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Stormy fansubs will be subbing the drama with hardsubs only
but if you were meaning TFP , i read that TOMAlicious fansubs would be subbing it

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 2nd, '08, 00:11

aishoni2 wrote:Maou press conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgFMVhFDzuM
A different version of the cm. Nino & Ohno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzTOJ4kkOD0&feature=user

...I-i'll go keymash in private now..
*clicking the replay button for the 154645134 times*
Nino just shoved Ohno up against the wall.


Hahaha, I know I should be a fangirl but holy crap. :goggle: :wub:

I am going to love Maou. I can't wait, one more day in Japan, two more days here!!

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Post by aishoni2 » Jul 3rd, '08, 02:30

Can we please change the thread title to "Maou (Ohno Satoshi, Ikuta Toma)"?
because...
1 day left!
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Post by atskv9 » Jul 3rd, '08, 03:34

^^ PM Egg-chan! She was the thread creator :-)

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Post by Egg-chan » Jul 3rd, '08, 04:12

Title has been changed, as requested ^^

And I've added a couple of short Youtube videos. If you've got a clip you think should be shared, let me know! ^^
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Post by aishoni2 » Jul 3rd, '08, 05:21

Egg-chan wrote:Title has been changed, as requested ^^

And I've added a couple of short Youtube videos. If you've got a clip you think should be shared, let me know! ^^
Thank you ^_______^V
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Post by Fallona » Jul 4th, '08, 01:23

4:22 am , local time

MAOU IS TODAY yaaaaaaaaaay

too bad i can't dl torrents T.T but i'll surely give it a try for MAOU

soooooooooooo excited about this

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Post by cinthya » Jul 4th, '08, 07:57

I can't wait, I want to see Maou!!!!

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 10:16

7:15pm :D Its almost here!!!!

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Post by Archaenon » Jul 4th, '08, 10:48

I wanna watch this because I adore all things Arashi. I wish it wasn't a remake though , esp of a really good Korean drama like Mawang.

I hope it's good nonetheless , I will watch it at least , for Ohno.

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 12:50

Archaenon wrote:I wanna watch this because I adore all things Arashi. I wish it wasn't a remake though , esp of a really good Korean drama like Mawang.

I hope it's good nonetheless , I will watch it at least , for Ohno.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrcccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh :D

Though, on topic, isn't Maou supposed to start at 10pm?

.... NEVERMIND. Stupid error on my part.

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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 4th, '08, 12:59

Just 5 more minutes before I see my beautiful Tomakun on the television!! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!

I am such an embarrassingly creepy fangirl. :P

But yeh, I'm watching, and there's nothing yet... mou sukoshi machimashou ne!

Edit: Me too! Doh!!

It's oooooooooooooooooooooon!
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Post by Rori » Jul 4th, '08, 12:59

For once, the channel I want to watch actually works.

Story looks interesting enough, and the plus being Toma is in it. Don't really care much for Ohno.

Anyway, off to watch! :D
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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 4th, '08, 13:03

"Anoo yarooouuu!"

*squeals*

How much more hotness could you possibly get in one man? :wub: :wub: :wub:

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Post by sefilily » Jul 4th, '08, 13:13

Who saw Ohno's shower scene? :lol
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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 4th, '08, 13:23

Maybe that should be posted as a spoiler! Heh heh. :D

Sigh... I don't know enough Japanese to understand this all completely, but what is there is beautiful!

Toma's character's a smoker though. Eck! :P

And suddenly... for some inexplicable reason... I really want a Coolish. :lol :lol

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Post by Archaenon » Jul 4th, '08, 13:49

Ladymercury wrote:
Archaenon wrote:I wanna watch this because I adore all things Arashi. I wish it wasn't a remake though , esp of a really good Korean drama like Mawang.

I hope it's good nonetheless , I will watch it at least , for Ohno.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrcccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh :D

Though, on topic, isn't Maou supposed to start at 10pm?

.... NEVERMIND. Stupid error on my part.

MERCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.... :D

I was about to say. I'm up here waiting for it to come on. D: Ohno needs more acting , so I'm all excited , even if it's a remake. I wonder if any of the other boys will do cameos , like in YamadaTaro. =o

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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 4th, '08, 14:01

Was about to comment on the cameos, but I won't spoil the surprise. ;)

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 14:12

Archaenon wrote:
Ladymercury wrote:
Archaenon wrote:I wanna watch this because I adore all things Arashi. I wish it wasn't a remake though , esp of a really good Korean drama like Mawang.

I hope it's good nonetheless , I will watch it at least , for Ohno.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrcccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh :D

Though, on topic, isn't Maou supposed to start at 10pm?

.... NEVERMIND. Stupid error on my part.

MERCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.... :D

I was about to say. I'm up here waiting for it to come on. D: Ohno needs more acting , so I'm all excited , even if it's a remake. I wonder if any of the other boys will do cameos , like in YamadaTaro. =o

How you beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee? :D

Hahaha oh my god. Maou... amazing. It really lived up to what I was expecting it to be.


Toma, surprisngly good, felt he slightly overacted but wow, far cry from whath I've seen in all his other roles.

Ohno, scary. But I love it. He really looks like a devil disguised as an angel.
I really get a major Death Note vibe from this, I haven't watched the original so I wouldn't get too critical of this drama. But I really get this whole Kira thing, except, no one is worshiping him for the killings. I am really trying to figure out how he's staging off this murders though...

NINO. NINO!!!!!!!!! NINOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! He has to play more into this drama! For realz!!! NINO. Angry, scruffy, drunk Nino pushing Ohno up against the wall D:

My f-list is gonna explode with the Ohmiya shippers going batshit over this.

Can't wait for episode 2 next week. Hahaha, and I can't wait to see this HD because I want to get the entire atmosphere out of this drama.

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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 4th, '08, 14:24

My feelings exactly. Hopefully Toma will get more into his role without pushing it too far in the rest of the season, but I think it's fantastic so far!!

Super scary!
The scene with Ninomiya was great!!

And I can't wait to see how he's pulling it off, and what he's going to do for the others...
Yeep!!

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 14:37

OHNO.

XD I can't stop saying his name, but really, Ohno is **** brilliant and this. He has like NO EMOTION. Really, that ONE scene where Toma (Serizawa) is struggling with the knife and Ohno (Naruse) is just standing there like actually taking that entire scene in, like he was getting his revenge.

GOD. PERFECT.

Hahahaha, that scene was so Ohmiya. I really wonder how much Nino is gonna play into it or if he's just gonna be another victim. I wasn't paying attention much cause I was kinda doing my morning hygene while watching but I know he told him to stop killing and apparently he killed one of his relatives.... but Ohno kind of made him think otherwise. I can't wait for HD to come out so I can understand that scene.

I really love how the ones that committ his crimes are the ones he lets off by defending them... Hmmmm
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Post by aishoni2 » Jul 4th, '08, 14:37

uwaaahhh

its like Mawang but in Japanese. absolutely love Toma in this. The girl looks wonderful. Ohno.. ohno.. he needs to loosen up a bit imo.
Young Naruse kinda sucks. The bad flashback totally ruin the beautiful crying Ohno scene :(((. Hate that guy who played young ohno!
The shower scene should be longer.

OMHECK THE SCENE WITH NINO WAS INTENSE.


As a whole, the dorama was ALMOST a carbon copy of the original but in Japanese (and I'm guilty of exaggerating). Even Naruse room looked pretty similar but without the red room
The opening "truth" montage was REALLY COOL. The song is great!


Nino should be acting again. I want Nino to act again. Somebody needs to make that boy act again *pulls hair*


There's a rerun of Maou tomorrow at 2.30pm Japan time in case anybody misses the live just now.
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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 14:43

The shower scene should be longer.
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Post by aishoni2 » Jul 4th, '08, 14:50

it should be in slow mo
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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 4th, '08, 15:08

Yeh, can't wait to DL it, cuz the sound on my TV is crap! Couldn't hear a lot of what the girl was saying. :unsure:

Yes please. If they have one shower scene per episode that's sure to make me a happyhappyhappy girl!! They can alternate between Ohno and Toma. :wub:

The flashbacks sucked!

But they were paid back with some fabulous scenes... the beginning bad-guy chase scene, shower scene, Nino scene, Toma-knife scene.... yay!! :w00t: Can't wait for the next one!


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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 15:23

Wow, that was fast.

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Post by chibi_Estefy » Jul 4th, '08, 16:48

Thanks for the linkS!!!!!!!!

I absolutely adore the opening!!!!!!! I love the song also XDXD

I only watched the first 10 minutes and loved it =D=D=D=D (I'm sooo excited!!!!)

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Post by timmynugget » Jul 4th, '08, 17:48

aishoni2 wrote: There's a rerun of Maou tomorrow at 2.30pm Japan time in case anybody misses the live just now.
Thanks for the heads-up aishoni2!
Oh, and you're banner is sooo cute and very nostalgic...

VERY GOOD first episode I can't wait for more OHNOxTOMA love!

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 4th, '08, 18:23

2.30pm, are you sure?
I mean, that one make out scene was very sexual for a mid day broadcasting....

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Post by marienella_m » Jul 4th, '08, 18:25

yeah, it was very good episode!! brilliant performances from Toma and Ridaa!! but i dont like the lead girl yet, she's too young for the role.

another wonderful song from arashi!! imho Truth>>>One Love!! :thumleft:
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Post by laceytam » Jul 4th, '08, 18:37

what does ohno want to do with the girl?does he want to kill her too?
what role does the female lead have?will there be something between ohno anf the female lead?

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Post by Rori » Jul 4th, '08, 18:44

Yeah, lol. Am pretty confused over to what's going on myself. Will be better with subs.

All I can say for now is brilliant acting, as usual, from Toma. and I love the opening. A lot.
Knowing that there's going to be a love triangle, I'm defo. sticking with it for now.
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Post by Egg-chan » Jul 4th, '08, 19:49

Is the streaming site not working for anyone else, or is it just me? ;_;
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Post by Rori » Jul 4th, '08, 19:55

I've got links to another streaming site (Veoh) If you want I can PM them you. Since Maou is broad casted on TBS and they are really sensitive when it comes to copyright I won't put the Veoh users' account at risk by even posting the links here. (user has already had his/her account shut down 3 times already)

So, if anyone wants the Veoh links, PM me. :)

Oh, and that's of course if you can use Veoh. I know they've blocked a lot of countries from using their site. :nuts:
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Post by Lotikuma » Jul 4th, '08, 20:01

it doesn't work for me too >_<

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Post by kozumifan » Jul 4th, '08, 20:49

this episode was amazing!
the acting was great!
riida is awesome :lol

specially when they were re-doing the "crime scene"
everything came back to toma, that was amazing! deng, so far this is my favorite drama
but what i didnt really understand was the tarot part, the judgement card means "a past crime"?? :scratch:
deffinitely gonna keep watching this :lol
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Post by laceytam » Jul 4th, '08, 20:52

what does ohno want to do with the girl?does he want to kill her too?





what role does the female lead have?will there be something between ohno anf the female lead?

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Post by piano4112000 » Jul 4th, '08, 21:02

I loved the first episode. The director did a great job of putting the scenes together. My favorite part was when the female lead was saying how Ohno's character has no heart and then it flashes over to Ohno crying on the pavement. Great scene and very well done.
Another scene that was great was the scene towards the end when Toma reenacted the scene of the stabbing and he relives the accident years ago and you can clearly see Toma struggle with it but then you see Ohno just stand there a stare like he knows everything that is going on in Toma's mind. Ohno's face was so intense at that moment that it was scary.


The end of the episode was great because you saw Ohno really calm and smooth and then he walks out of the room and that SMIRK totally killed me. I fear the smirk.


I worried a lot about this remake because the korean version was soooo well done but they were all laid to rest when I saw the first episode. Ohno really surprised me with his acting. I never knew he could be so strong since all I ever saw was his goofy side on tv shows but he really proved people who doubted him wrong.


I actually like that they aren't following tooo closely to the korean version because if they did there would not be any reason to even watch the japanese version. On the red room, the red room to me in the show symbolizes his hatred for Toma and I think that room will play an important part later on. I actually like that Ohno's character is close to some of the victims because it makes it more powerful in the performance that someone could be so cold and calculating even when they are close to them.

You know what they say about fearing those who are closer to you than a stranger. The thrill is never knowing.

Toma and Ohno did an awesome job and I can't say enough about the director and his style.


Sorry about the long rant, just enjoyed the drama a lot. smile.gif

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Post by koriandr » Jul 4th, '08, 21:09

First time posting... what an awesome episode!! Didn't understand most of it, but the acting was amazing, especially Ohno. :D

Who would have thought he could play someone so bent on evil and destruction? :O Seriously, the menace was rolling off him in droves!

I had a hard time at first, believing that Toma is a detective, because I keep remembering him in Hana Kimi. :roll: I think he'll grow on me, though. I like Ryoko Kobayashi. but I'm wondering about her role in the drama, other than her "talent." I think she might be the crux of a love triangle later in the series, I'm guessing.

Anyway, I can't wait for it to be uploaded somewhere and someone subs it. *.* This series looks like it's going to be /really/ good.

P.S. the shower scene was entirely /too/ short :P
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Post by Lotikuma » Jul 4th, '08, 21:12

Great epsiode. They both did an awesome job. Ohno was.. great. The crying scene and .. obviously the shower scene are awesome.
I never thought that one day i'd be scared of him xD

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 5th, '08, 00:21

This is what I got from watching the episode. Is the raw up yet so I can rewatch it? I'll check the torrents xD
The girl has the ability to see things, especially what happened to people, through objects. Toma doesn't believe her at first but then he starts too when the things start to connect around him and requests her help. As for love triangle, I don't know again I haven't seen the original. But I do know, for his blind fight against Ohno, he will be using her a lot as his trump card.

From Ohno's side, I believe he knows the girls ability. I think he wants to get close to the girl, probably, to silence or use her. Her ability is deadly to his cause if she can trace it back to him. I think though if Ohno gets in contact with the girl he'll pretty much give himself away as the guy with no heart.
red room to me in the show symbolizes his hatred for Toma and I think that room will play an important part later on
The red room is not just that, its a film processing room. The red light is so that the film and photographs, drying, will not be destroyed by the bright light. Its an alternative. He processes his own photos. It makes sense considering he IS stalking Toma and the people around him and if he was to go to a film process place they would probably call the cops on him. So that's why its red, not really to symbolize anything.

You can tell his hatred for Toma just by the way he stalks him, sets up his murders, and uses it to directly challenge and torture him through his work.
but what i didnt really understand was the tarot part, the judgement card means "a past crime"??
EDIT: I read the script, yeay! It means " 過去の罪への償い " Kako no Tsumi he no tsugunai - " Atonement for (your) past crimes "

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Post by piano4112000 » Jul 5th, '08, 00:32

The reason why I brought up the red room was because if you watch the original the room doesn't play an important part there but in this version I think it does. I know the red light is for processing of films but remember red is also the color of blood and hatred. this version uses it more than the original that is why I brought it up The red room was mentioned before in another thread so I was just responding to that.

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 5th, '08, 01:07

Oh, I see. :D Like I said, I haven't watched the original (because I know I am very critical and did not want to watch this with blinded eyes) so I might not be in on all the things you guys who have seen the original are in.

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Post by tsumabukis » Jul 5th, '08, 01:19

I also think the red room is going to be really important.

In a photographic dark room, the best colour light to use is actually yellow, not red. And, as long as you're not physically processing anything at the time, it's totally fine to have the lights on. So there's obviously a major reason they chose red.

Although it already works, because that red room kind of like the center of his evil. It hides all the evidence that he's been stalking Toma, and it's where he contemplates all his evil deeds. Heh heh.

Yeh, I think maybe the main reason I think Toma is over-acting a bit, is that I'm used to seeing him playing the fool, and I'm not used to this character yet.

Anyway, as I've already said loads, this was a great first episode! And I think it's just going to get way better!!

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Post by Ladymercury » Jul 5th, '08, 01:34

tsumabukis wrote:In a photographic dark room, the best colour light to use is actually yellow, not red. And, as long as you're not physically processing anything at the time, it's totally fine to have the lights on. So there's obviously a major reason they chose red.
Ah, I did not know that. I just knew what I was exposed to by my friends who were taking photography in HS and let me chill in the print rooms and it was all red and stuff XD
Although it already works, because that red room kind of like the center of his evil. It hides all the evidence that he's been stalking Toma, and it's where he contemplates all his evil deeds. Heh heh.
LOL, I just had a mental image of Ohno going, TO THE BAT CAVE and pulling on one of his law books to get inside his secret red room. Yes, I am weird.
Yeh, I think maybe the main reason I think Toma is over-acting a bit, is that I'm used to seeing him playing the fool, and I'm not used to this character yet.
Yeah, but I think he's getting too emotional, then again, maybe that's how brash his character is?

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Post by piano4112000 » Jul 5th, '08, 01:40

[quote="Ladymercury"]Oh, I see. :D Like I said, I haven't watched the original (because I know I am very critical and did not want to watch this with blinded eyes) so I might not be in on all the things you guys who have seen the original are in.

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No problem just putting a bit of information out there for those who haven't seen the original. :)

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