[Discussion] Sunao ni Narenakute (Ueno Juri, Eita)

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Post by totemokakkoii » Apr 25th, '10, 16:30

voldemort wrote:Eventhough his character has not been developped much so far... I'm also feeling sad for Linda, he so badly wants friends that he does all those sacrifices !
And it's also sad that the other two are using him for their job purpose. Doctor who forces him to go back to his father who he hasn't met for so long. And Nakaji who sends him right in his boss bed. Are Doctor and Nakaji really considering him as a friend?

I hope at some point, Linda will also get something from the other!
hmm.....
i too pity linda, but i dun think the two are using him.. maybe the words 'making use of him' is abit harsh here.. the other 2 are also ppl who lack of real friends, same situation as linda... so all of them are desperate to have friends, when they finally find friends, they thought finally they found someone to help or assist them.. if they thought it will end up in such a terrible situation for linda, i doubt they will ask for the same request...... anyway, i think the sexual harrassement started long before this...

to side tracked...for his good looks, he could havejust quit the stupid publishing house, and go to another one (prolly also with a female boss who appreciate him yet won't harass him)!!! waste of talent..

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Post by neofire » Apr 25th, '10, 19:15

Don't read if you haven't watch ep2
well in regards of Linda's situation I think it is common anywhere in the world that you often look for people you can trust to help you in life and in career too.

Since Linda works in a publishing company - it is obvious Nakaji would ask him for help, since Nakaji is a freelance photographer, and is sick and tired of working for porno publishing company.

As for Doctor - he is being look down in the Japanese company he is working for and he is at a disadvantage, so in order to keep his job and support his sister, he is begging Linda to help him.

So I agree that Linda is not being forced to do anything by them, actually Linda was the one offer to show Nakaji's pics to his boss.
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Post by condorjoe » Apr 25th, '10, 19:46

I do feel bad for Doctor though. His job and Haru in love with Nakaji. The poor bastard.

I can understand why Rinda feeling a bit defensive. At the same time, he does plan to write an article about them. I don't think anyone is aware of Rinda's intentions.

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Post by charia-chan » Apr 25th, '10, 19:54

neofire, why don't you use the spoiler function for information like this?

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 25th, '10, 20:33

charia-chan wrote:neofire, why don't you use the spoiler function for information like this?
+1... There are spoiler tags available. :sweat:

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Post by esmer86 » Apr 25th, '10, 21:16

mrmoonlight wrote:
neofire wrote:I thought the uncomfortable hidden tension between Nakaji and Haru is going to last longer
I think Linda does have feeling for Nakaji, and the scene with Peach - Linda is just comforting her as a friend.

And it seems Nakaji probably heard Haru confession at the station.


I think so tooo !

I think so too. They prob. just left ep.2 like that to suck us in...it is for me! :wub: prob nothing will happen to them seriously until prob. 5 or 6th ep. like other dramas.

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Post by avieamber » Apr 26th, '10, 01:43

Lol...the only characters not having much trouble apparently is Haru, imo. Except if she's being dragged down by that freaky student of hers who's supplying drugs to her brother. But so far, she seems to only have problems with loving Nakaji who doesn't return his affection.

Anyways, the rest are rather messed up. Especially Linda and that Peach. Though till now, I don't care much about Peach, it's like even if she did die in that episode, I won't feel sad anyway for her. There's not much justification for her actions. Just coz she's lonely? People like Linda...yeah...I can understand.

Apart from all those problems, I find Haru and Nakaji's scenes very engaging and amusing especially the part where they were teasing each other and fooling around in the convenient store. I can see that the store's gonna be one of their prominent meeting place lol...

Overall, I find episode two just ok. A lot are being revealed but not resolved. They keep showing us bits and pieces here and there and it felt bit messy. This is what happens when they have too many characters and having trouble which to focus more. When they do focus on several, they neglect the others, leaving people like Peach totally undeveloped imo. The suspense is killing me when they keep jumping around from one to another with short scenes. ugh...I just felt kinda....unsatisfied by the end of the episode.
lol...i rambled a lot...

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 26th, '10, 02:47

I'm still waiting for the subs. :pale:

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Post by mrmoonlight » Apr 26th, '10, 04:17

bmwracer wrote:I'm still waiting for the subs. :pale:

you see this one?
http://exotsia.livejournal.com/25402.html

Sub ep 2 is out!

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 26th, '10, 05:03

mrmoonlight wrote:
bmwracer wrote:I'm still waiting for the subs. :pale:

you see this one?
http://exotsia.livejournal.com/25402.html

Sub ep 2 is out!
I did... But I was waiting for the ones at D-Addicts. :pale:

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Post by mrmoonlight » Apr 26th, '10, 06:50

bmwracer wrote:
mrmoonlight wrote:
bmwracer wrote:I'm still waiting for the subs. :pale:

you see this one?
http://exotsia.livejournal.com/25402.html

Sub ep 2 is out!
I did... But I was waiting for the ones at D-Addicts. :pale:

Ahhh ... D-addicts sub staff have exams right?
I'm waiting too
This subtitle has a strange language = ="

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Post by stolenxkisses » Apr 26th, '10, 17:17

mrmoonlight wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
mrmoonlight wrote:
you see this one?
http://exotsia.livejournal.com/25402.html

Sub ep 2 is out!
I did... But I was waiting for the ones at D-Addicts. :pale:
Ahhh ... D-addicts sub staff have exams right?
I'm waiting too
This subtitle has a strange language = ="
:) It's up on YouTube, guys.

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Post by Orion1986 » Apr 26th, '10, 17:37

When there is a proper softsub we can add to the 720p version, do tell us. Proper subs for this are taking too long. Sure, youtube is fine and hardsubs too, but some of us want to see this in good quality. :-(

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 26th, '10, 17:44

Orion1986 wrote:When there is a proper softsub we can add to the 720p version, do tell us. Proper subs for this are taking too long. Sure, youtube is fine and hardsubs too, but some of us want to see this in good quality. :-(
+1. :sweat:

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Post by Orion1986 » Apr 26th, '10, 20:31

And can I just say, if Eita's and Juri-chan's characters don't get together in this one, the blood under the door will be mine. :lol

Are they doing it on purpose? Torturing us like that? Once! Just once, I wanna see these two as a couple. If they don't do it this time either, they're real sadists. :P

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Post by miznagase » Apr 26th, '10, 20:50

after watching episode 2 last thursday, i have a few more thoughts...
so, like most of you have already mentioned, linda is probably gay. i don't know if he'll have enough courage to "come out" by the end of the series because he's so desperate to have friends and support from others, but i hope he does so that he'll be less stressed out.
gosh, i feel so bad for him for having to put up with that nasty boss! :crazy:
peach is pissing me off. :glare:
it seems like she attempted to commit suicide in order to gain sympathy from others. and apparently, she sleeps around a lot. is she really pregnant? and if she is, who's baby is it? hopefully it's not linda's...oh, poor boy :-(
i'm gonna be so freakin mad if haru and nakaji are actually siblings :x
after all those dramas and movies they've done together, we finally get to see them as a couple, and if they don't end up together, i'm gonna go nuts! :cussing:

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 26th, '10, 21:40

Orion1986 wrote:Just once, I wanna see these two as a couple.
They were in Summer Time Machine Blues. :-)

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Post by esmer86 » Apr 26th, '10, 22:23

stolenxkisses wrote:
mrmoonlight wrote:
bmwracer wrote: I did... But I was waiting for the ones at D-Addicts. :pale:
Ahhh ... D-addicts sub staff have exams right?
I'm waiting too
This subtitle has a strange language = ="
:) It's up on YouTube, guys.

Wait....isnt this what D-addicts staff and RAW/translators dont want... :glare:

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Post by Orion1986 » Apr 26th, '10, 23:40

bmwracer wrote:They were in Summer Time Machine Blues. :-)
I'll have to see that then cause I'm getting a trauma here. :P

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 27th, '10, 00:27

Orion1986 wrote:
bmwracer wrote:They were in Summer Time Machine Blues. :-)
I'll have to see that then cause I'm getting a trauma here. :P
You should... It's a fun movie once you figure things out. :thumright:

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Post by reallaerreal » Apr 27th, '10, 03:05

esmer86 wrote:
stolenxkisses wrote:
mrmoonlight wrote:
Ahhh ... D-addicts sub staff have exams right?
I'm waiting too
This subtitle has a strange language = ="
:) It's up on YouTube, guys.

Wait....isnt this what D-addicts staff and RAW/translators dont want... :glare:

The youtube one was translated and subbed by the uploader herself. Right now, we have at least 1 subbing team (GOE-SS) and 2 individual subbers (exotsia@livejournal and AngelDBSKDrama@youtube). I am not sure whether d-addict team will sub this. From what I've read in Sunao ni narenakute subbing thread, it seems like d-addict subbing team would let GOE-SS be the main subbing team of this one.

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Post by gaurisharma » Apr 27th, '10, 03:28

well...querbeet is subbing the drama as well....and should be releasing the first episode pretty soon!!!

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Post by crazypilovee » Apr 27th, '10, 03:29

omg i LOVE this drama!! seriously i loveee & miss kitagawa eriko's stuff<3
so much character developmt & entangled relationships... can't wait to see how it turns out =] i love all the characs right now (cept peach's depressed attitude but yeah she has a reason cuz she's very lonely)..
omg jaejoong's so HOT in here who WOULDN'T go for this pretty face!? heheee
aww i think Rinda's gay.... i hope he finds happiness in the end & learn to love himself!

& i highly doubt they're siblings... it's not THAT kind of a dark drama & it just wouldn't be right to show this much attraction if they really were related... this does keep the plot interesting tho haha wonder how it's gonna play out!

dang so many potential bad guys in this drama! haru's mom, nakaji's dad(?), hentai boss lady (ewww), that high schl kid (omg i hope haru's bro doesn't mix in w/ the wrong crowd!), & the housewife cheater...

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 27th, '10, 04:00

gaurisharma wrote:well...querbeet is subbing the drama as well....and should be releasing the first episode pretty soon!!!
Ehhh?

Why are so many groups subbing the same drama? :scratch:

Seems like a waste of resources. :sweat:

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Post by nnnc » Apr 27th, '10, 04:47

bmwracer wrote:
gaurisharma wrote:well...querbeet is subbing the drama as well....and should be releasing the first episode pretty soon!!!
Ehhh?

Why are so many groups subbing the same drama? :scratch:

Seems like a waste of resources. :sweat:
I think because Jaejung is in it. TVXQ fans have many fansub groups and they've been subbing the same stuffs over and over for quite some times now.

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 27th, '10, 04:50

nnnc wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
gaurisharma wrote:well...querbeet is subbing the drama as well....and should be releasing the first episode pretty soon!!!
Ehhh?

Why are so many groups subbing the same drama? :scratch:

Seems like a waste of resources. :sweat:
I think because Jaejung is in it. TVXQ fans have many fansub groups and they've been subbing the same stuffs over and over for quite some times now.
So ka.

That's sort of sad, since there are some dramas that never get subbed, while others (like this one) have multiple subs from various sources. :-(

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Post by stolenxkisses » Apr 27th, '10, 06:48

Official soft subs by GOE;SS are out. Knock yourself out.

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Post by Issy » Apr 27th, '10, 11:49

stolenxkisses wrote:Official soft subs by GOE;SS are out. Knock yourself out.
oh wow, thanks alot.
but what you mean by official softsubs? :mrgreen:

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Post by stolenxkisses » Apr 27th, '10, 11:55

Issy wrote:but what you mean by official softsubs? :mrgreen:
Sorry, I just meant they're kinda like unofficially the official subbing team for this drama right? They're the ones D-Addicts is linking to, and their quality is good. I downloaded from a couple other places but they aren't as good.

Anyhow, I'm glad they're finally out! And also glad that it's going to be Thursday again soon ^^

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Post by Orion1986 » Apr 27th, '10, 13:03

Yaay! Finally :D

I can now enjoy the series in HD goodness :wub:

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 27th, '10, 13:42

Orion1986 wrote:Yaay! Finally :D

I can now enjoy the series in HD goodness :wub:
+1. :thumright:

stolenxkisses wrote:Official soft subs by GOE;SS are out. Knock yourself out.
Uh, why haven't they updated their thread? :scratch:

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Post by kaminari_tsk » Apr 27th, '10, 19:45

just finished 1st ep and, nothing special, but i find it kinda funny X) :
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Post by bmwracer » Apr 28th, '10, 03:25

Just finished watching Episode 2.
The Haru-Nakaji relationship is clearly the most interesting story of the bunch... It seems a bit melodramatic with all of the complications, but it's still interesting, most assuredly because of Juri-chan and Eita: You can't help but root for them.

Nakaji totally deserved his verbal lashing from Haru after she was crushed to be set up on a date with Doctor... How she managed to endure that entire fiasco was beyond me.

I don't know how true the abusive/harassing boss is in Japan, but they're really playing it up in this drama... What a stereotype. And for all of them to have such bosses? Come on...

Not really liking all the little side stories, particularly the one with the drug-pushing students... Seems so cliched and contrived.

Don't know what to say about Linda: he's in a crappy situation. You'd think he'd have some self-respect, but I guess he needs the job, which is why he allows himself to be the boss' plaything. Bleah.

Peach and Doctor are the two least interesting characters... Still. We know pretty much nothing about Peach other than she's apparently knocked up and is suicidal. And Doctor is just wimpy and pathetic: he's underachieving and the whipping boy at work... I haven't seen much from either of these characters so far that makes them interesting or worth rooting for at all.

At this point, Haru, Nakaji, and Linda are the ones carrying the storyline... And I'm glad of it.

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Post by miznagase » Apr 28th, '10, 03:41

bmwracer wrote:
Peach and Doctor are the two least interesting characters... Still. We know pretty much nothing about Peach other than she's apparently knocked up and is suicidal. And Doctor is just wimpy and pathetic: he's underachieving and the whipping boy at work... I haven't seen much from either of these characters so far that makes them interesting or worth rooting for at all.

At this point, Haru, Nakaji, and Linda are the ones carrying the storyline... And I'm glad of it.
yeah, i pretty much agree with you that peach and doctor are the least interesting characters in the drama. i sometimes wonder if the series would be better off without peach in it :P
i still want doctor to be a part of the story, though, because he has a crush on juri-chan, and that's adorable :wub:
i don't think doctor is wimpy. being a korean working in a hard environment in japan is tough. he can't quit his job because he needs to work to support his little sister.
i wonder where their parents are... :scratch:
are they deceased, or are they still living in korea??? :blink

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Post by Sakuya » Apr 28th, '10, 03:43

Lol, I also agree that Peach should just disappear. I don't like her character. :whistling: But I do like Doctor! He's so awkwardly funny, lol. I don't think his acting is that bad btw.

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 28th, '10, 03:59

miznagase wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
Peach and Doctor are the two least interesting characters... Still. We know pretty much nothing about Peach other than she's apparently knocked up and is suicidal. And Doctor is just wimpy and pathetic: he's underachieving and the whipping boy at work... I haven't seen much from either of these characters so far that makes them interesting or worth rooting for at all.

At this point, Haru, Nakaji, and Linda are the ones carrying the storyline... And I'm glad of it.
yeah, i pretty much agree with you that peach and doctor are the least interesting characters in the drama. i sometimes wonder if the series would be better off without peach in it :P
i still want doctor to be a part of the story, though, because he has a crush on juri-chan, and that's adorable :wub:
i don't think doctor is wimpy. being a korean working in a hard environment in japan is tough. he can't quit his job because he needs to work to support his little sister.
i wonder where their parents are... :scratch:
are they deceased, or are they still living in korea??? :blink
I can understand that it's tough for him, but feeling sorry him isn't just enough for me to make me care about him... If he were a puppy dog, okay, but he's a man isn't he?

Maybe I'm being too tough on him, but he's really like Ryo's character, Sosuke in Last Friends: the writers aren't giving us very much to care about.

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Post by miznagase » Apr 28th, '10, 04:13

this is kinda off-topic, but, sakuya, i like your signature with linda in the middle :D :thumright:

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Post by Sakuya » Apr 28th, '10, 05:11

miznagase wrote:this is kinda off-topic, but, sakuya, i like your signature with linda in the middle :D :thumright:
LOL! Oh wow, what do you know, it's Linda! I forgot he was there. I wonder why he chose "Linda" for his username... I need a new signature for Sunao. Oh ya, I've actually gotten used to Juri's hairstyle in this series. It's actually not bad at all. I remember being :crazy: when I first saw the promo images on the website.
Did anybody else think that Linda might be gay in the scene with Nakaji? :whistling:

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 28th, '10, 05:37

Sakuya wrote:
Did anybody else think that Linda might be gay in the scene with Nakaji? :whistling:
Other people have mentioned that. :)

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Post by flamethunder85 » Apr 28th, '10, 09:20

miznagase wrote:
yeah, i pretty much agree with you that peach and doctor are the least interesting characters in the drama. i sometimes wonder if the series would be better off without peach in it :P
i still want doctor to be a part of the story, though, because he has a crush on juri-chan, and that's adorable :wub:
i don't think doctor is wimpy. being a korean working in a hard environment in japan is tough. he can't quit his job because he needs to work to support his little sister.
i wonder where their parents are... :scratch:
are they deceased, or are they still living in korea??? :blink
I think they will develop the stories in the next couple of episodes.
Doctor's family in Korea. Why he doesn't want to go back to his own country...
Linda's family too. Why is the tension between family members...
As for Peach...*sigh*...I dun really give a damn, to be honest. :sweat:
The most interesting scenes are the ones with Haru and Nakaji.
Their interactions in the konbini shop, the park, and train station are simply overwhelming to watch.
Doctor's character is essential to add some spices to Haru-Nakaji's relationship.

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Post by ASMAOMAR » Apr 28th, '10, 10:13

Hello minna ^^

i can see that you're enjoying the Drama <3 as i do :P

So, i made some Icons before the Drama airs =D
hope you like them ^^

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i'd be Happy if i found More Caps to make more ^^

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Post by flamethunder85 » Apr 28th, '10, 10:32

^ Those are so lovely. Good job! :thumright:

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Apr 28th, '10, 10:48

flamethunder85 wrote:
The most interesting scenes are the ones with Haru and Nakaji.
Their interactions in the konbini shop, the park, and train station are simply overwhelming to watch.
Doctor's character is essential to add some spices to Haru-Nakaji's relationship.
This :thumright:
I think that the writer just on purpose wanted to deceive us and let us think that they are siblings

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Post by totemokakkoii » Apr 28th, '10, 12:14

kaminari_tsk wrote:just finished 1st ep and, nothing special, but i find it kinda funny X) :
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whahaha your eyes are definitely sharp!!!

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Post by stolenxkisses » Apr 28th, '10, 13:42

bmwracer wrote:
stolenxkisses wrote:Official soft subs by GOE;SS are out. Knock yourself out.
Uh, why haven't they updated their thread? :scratch:
Er, they have. That's where I got the upload link from.

I find some of your comments on Jaejoong's character overly harsh. Don't jump to unnecessary conclusions about him paralleling Nishikido Ryo in this one. I found his character unexpectedly endearing, and also rather worrying, for what he portrays as a Korean in Japan, and the necessary difficulties they face.

I have a Juri bias, too, but there's no need to bash other characters to make her shine.

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 28th, '10, 13:48

flamethunder85 wrote:
The most interesting scenes are the ones with Haru and Nakaji.
Their interactions in the konbini shop, the park, and train station are simply overwhelming to watch.
They are.
Very likely because it's Juri-chan and Eita... But their characters are really engaging. :thumrightt:
Doctor's character is essential to add some spices to Haru-Nakaji's relationship.
There's no spice there... More of a distraction. It'll just be unrequited love, not a love triangle.

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Post by flamethunder85 » Apr 28th, '10, 18:11

bmwracer wrote:
There's no spice there... More of a distraction. It'll just be unrequited love, not a love triangle.
Well...I won't say a distraction.
Someone's falling for Haru, Nakaji must feel something...
Just like this spoiler pic. (ALERT)
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Post by bmwracer » Apr 28th, '10, 18:35

flamethunder85 wrote:
bmwracer wrote:
There's no spice there... More of a distraction. It'll just be unrequited love, not a love triangle.
Well...I won't say a distraction.
Someone's falling for Haru, Nakaji must feel something...
Just like this spoiler pic. (ALERT)
TV FAN mag
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Credit to original scanner.
Two comments about that:
1. Nakaji is a knuckleahed to allow that to happen.
2. That relationship is probably to appease fangirls/get ratings... Very Last Friends-like... Bleah. :x

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Post by miznagase » Apr 28th, '10, 22:45

flamethunder85 wrote:
TV FAN mag
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Credit to original scanner.
:goggle: omg, doctor is desperate to get haru!!!
i like the love triangle thing going on here.
it makes the story a lot more interesting :D
jaejoong's fangirls are probably gonna go nuts after watching the next episode :lol

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Post by garnet07 » Apr 29th, '10, 07:57

Ok, finally have free time from work (overtime at home) ... and finally got to see the first episode.

YAHOOO love Eita and Ueno Juri pairing since Nodame Cantabile. But hopefully, on this show they really do get together. Last Friends kept my hopes up only till the end which is a full on BLAH!!

As for the first episode, interesting concept with Twitter. How it affects society and make a unique story about it. Gotta give props to the Japanese for making a creative storyline like this. Right now, it's unpredictable. All the characters seem multi-dimensional and all have their insecurities. Who has got the worst job of them all? It's very slice of life like in your 20s. Will watch rest later after work.

Is Querbeet making hardsub version of this? So the files can be smaller size and playable in PS3. Anywho, I'll just download GOE-SS version first and redownload the HS version later.

Edit: Hmm, stock characters? Well ok, there's a really wack job best friend who slits her wrist (Last Friends? ... . If you're basing it on K-dramas standards, the storyline is different. If you base it on similar dramas, well of course it would have similarities) Geeh, just watch it for the character development right now. There isn't really much Jdoramas this season.

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Apr 29th, '10, 09:29

garnet07 wrote: Is Querbeet making hardsub version of this? So the files can be smaller size and playable in PS3. Anywho, I'll just download GOE-SS version first and redownload the HS version later.
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Yes ^^

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Post by SSpiegel » Apr 29th, '10, 10:36

stolenxkisses wrote:
I find some of your comments on Jaejoong's character overly harsh. Don't jump to unnecessary conclusions about him paralleling Nishikido Ryo in this one. I found his character unexpectedly endearing, and also rather worrying, for what he portrays as a Korean in Japan, and the necessary difficulties they face.

I have a Juri bias, too, but there's no need to bash other characters to make her shine.
Agreed. I find his character nothing like Ryo's character in Last Friends. I'm sensing unnecessary hatred for idol guys...

As for being a wimp, well, confrontation is not really a big part of Asian cultures (especially Korea and Japan). Even if you don't agree or get treated badly, you're supposed to just zip it, especially with your seniors. Saying something would cause him to lose face, make his boss lose face, and lose even more face for making his boss lose face. And this job is important to him because he has to support his sister so she can make something out of herself.

I think Jaejoong's acting was better in this episode. He was actually kind of natural in that scene with his little sister (tho it's so funny to me that they are speaking Japanese together. you'd think having been in Japan only five years, even the little sister still remembers how to speak Korean... :) but I know, the actress is Japanese, they can't expect her to speak Korean). Maybe he has a hard time acting awkward and he always takes it over the top.
Overall, I think the second episode was better. There are a lot of sub-plots which make me doubt this drama will end well, but at least I'm now more interested than after the first episode. I'm getting used to the awkward Haru, and Eita is awesome! as usual.
I still have a feeling they (makers of the drama) are trying really hard to make this a trendy drama, with the Twitter, cool music choices and weird block transitions. I'm not sure if it works for me, but then again, I don't really have high expectations for this drama. I'm just happy to see Eita again. Hopefully with some awesome romance!

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 29th, '10, 13:35

garnet07 wrote:YAHOOO love Eita and Ueno Juri pairing since Nodame Cantabile. But hopefully, on this show they really do get together. Last Friends kept my hopes up only till the end which is a full on BLAH!!
+1. :thumright:

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Post by Outside » Apr 29th, '10, 16:19

After watching episode 3.
Now I'm thinking the person behind the door is Nakaji's crazy girlfriend. It's so not worth all the wait and anticipation if that's the case.

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Post by cherish3310 » Apr 29th, '10, 16:49

After watching ep3
I think DOCTOR is a very good guy, he waited for Haru in the rain like that (ofcourse holding the umbrella)

I just make him look so good can wait for next week's ep. the boy's fight

ps. I'm Jejung's fan but no crazy about him doing things with girls (it's natural for entertainer and as a man (smiles))

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Post by «minah» » Apr 29th, '10, 17:42

hm... I wonder if I'm one of the few people watching this NOT because Eita and Juri are in the same show and seem to be the main couple. I dunno... when people over-hype stuff and just desperately wanna see those two together it really makes me lose interest in the show. You know.. no one is bashing on the fact that Eita's character is with a married woman, but people are upset that Jae Jung's character is making moves on Juri.

I really hope they make the supporting role characters be a bit more significant in the drama. The whole drama can't be focused only on Eita and Juri, and I actually like the fact that it branches off to other characters and sub-stories. It gives something else to be interested in than just the main attractions. I don't really see this as Last Friends either. I think it holds on its own.
..And is that the same book bag Eita had from Voice...?
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Post by bmwracer » Apr 29th, '10, 18:17

^ You should use the spoiler tags. :sweat:

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Post by «minah» » Apr 29th, '10, 18:40

Didn't think I really spoiled that much................... but ok................. *goes and edits*

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Post by Love Angel » Apr 29th, '10, 18:53

«minah» wrote:hm... I wonder if I'm one of the few people watching this NOT because Eita and Juri are in the same show and seem to be the main couple.
*raises her hand*
I thought I'm the only one XD
I decided to watch this for 2 reasons
I love Tamayama's acting and I like Kitagawa's writing
and yeah..I'm more into the supporting characters here :roll

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Post by cherish3310 » Apr 29th, '10, 19:04

Love Angel wrote:
«minah» wrote:hm... I wonder if I'm one of the few people watching this NOT because Eita and Juri are in the same show and seem to be the main couple.
*raises her hand*
I thought I'm the only one XD
I decided to watch this for 2 reasons
I love Tamayama's acting and I like Kitagawa's writing
and yeah..I'm more into the supporting characters here :roll
I watched because of Jejung =[]=" but practice my language as well...

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Post by nnnc » Apr 29th, '10, 20:07

I watch because of Kitagawa Eriko, Eita, and Juri. I like Eita and Juri's acting but I couldn't care less whether they will end up together.

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Post by «minah» » Apr 29th, '10, 20:20

cherish3310 wrote:
Love Angel wrote:
«minah» wrote:hm... I wonder if I'm one of the few people watching this NOT because Eita and Juri are in the same show and seem to be the main couple.
*raises her hand*
I thought I'm the only one XD
I decided to watch this for 2 reasons
I love Tamayama's acting and I like Kitagawa's writing
and yeah..I'm more into the supporting characters here :roll
I watched because of Jejung =[]=" but practice my language as well...
Yeah, I'm interested in seeing hi... never really listened to TVXQ but yeah, he kinda like supported the reason why I wanted to watch. I'm familiar with the other actresses/actors (like that dude Linda I know was Takumi in the NANA movie, and Peach was in LIFE, and yeah..... kinda don't need to mention the other two) and the story sounds nice too.... I wish I can meet cool people like that on Twitter too ._. A drama can have good well known actors... but if the story sucks.... Like um.... that Yamada Taro drama with Nino (?) I liked him a lot in Stand Up!! and Door to Door.... but that show..... I think was really bad and just stopped like halfway through. Not even good actors

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Post by Issy » Apr 29th, '10, 20:48

«minah» wrote:
hm... I wonder if I'm one of the few people watching this NOT because Eita and Juri are in the same show and seem to be the main couple. I dunno... when people over-hype stuff and just desperately wanna see those two together it really makes me lose interest in the show. You know.. no one is bashing on the fact that Eita's character is with a married woman, but people are upset that Jae Jung's character is making moves on Juri.

I really hope they make the supporting role characters be a bit more significant in the drama. The whole drama can't be focused only on Eita and Juri, and I actually like the fact that it branches off to other characters and sub-stories. It gives something else to be interested in than just the main attractions. I don't really see this as Last Friends either. I think it holds on its own.
..And is that the same book bag Eita had from Voice...?
oh, i just totally agree with everything you said. too much hype about a subject makes people lose interest. espcially if it has started already waaaaaaaaay before the drama itself. one thing i don't understand, why all these dislike and hostility towards Doctor's character? this is the first time i know of Jae Jung and i had no idea who he was but i liked his character in here. are we going to treat him the same way he is being treated in the drama? :blink

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Post by nnnc » Apr 30th, '10, 00:22

Issy wrote: oh, i just totally agree with everything you said. too much hype about a subject makes people lose interest. espcially if it has started already waaaaaaaaay before the drama itself. one thing i don't understand, why all these dislike and hostility towards Doctor's character? this is the first time i know of Jae Jung and i had no idea who he was but i liked his character in here. are we going to treat him the same way he is being treated in the drama? :blink
I didn't like "doctor" at all in the first episode maybe because I couldn't get into the character. His acting was pretty bad in the first episode that it distracted me a lot. Jae's acting improved in the second episode and maybe because we learned more about "doctor", I'm developing some sympathy toward the character. Still don't like how "doctor" reacts in several situations though. Out of all five, I don't like Haru and peach the most.

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Post by miznagase » Apr 30th, '10, 00:23

omg episode 3 PISSED ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x
i am so disappointed in nakaji.
how can he still be with that bitchy married woman?!!!
she was telling haru that she was always destined to be with nakaji, but she ended up marrying that guy for his money. haru was right! :thumright:
UGH! what a joke! :crazy:
the fact that nakaji didn't believe haru just made me want to punch him in the face!!!
how can he trust that slutty girlfriend of his??!!
and what's up with him getting all frustrated after he saw her cuddling with her husband? :scratch:
now i'm starting to think that doctor should be with haru.
on to a different topic, this episode verified the fact that linda is gay.
his nasty boss apparently has a new guy to play around with.
linda should feel relieved, but he seemed to be upset about that for some reason... :scratch:
peach finally told haru that she's pregnant...finally! :roll
i don't know about you guys, but i find it really odd how no one seems to care too much about peach's suicide attempt.
if she were my friend, i would be really anxious and worried.
i guess all the characters forgot about that incident already... :unsure:

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Post by esmer86 » Apr 30th, '10, 00:32

miznagase wrote:omg episode 3 PISSED ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x
i am so disappointed in nakaji.
how can he still be with that bitchy married woman?!!!
she was telling haru that she was always destined to be with nakaji, but she ended up marrying that guy for his money. haru was right! :thumright:
UGH! what a joke! :crazy:
the fact that nakaji didn't believe haru just made me want to punch him in the face!!!
how can he trust that slutty girlfriend of his??!!
and what's up with him getting all frustrated after he saw her cuddling with her husband? :scratch:
now i'm starting to think that doctor should be with haru.
on to a different topic, this episode verified the fact that linda is gay.
his nasty boss apparently has a new guy to play around with.
linda should feel relieved, but he seemed to be upset about that for some reason... :scratch:



peach finally told haru that she's pregnant...finally! :roll
i don't know about you guys, but i find it really odd how no one seems to care too much about peach's suicide attempt.
if she were my friend, i would be really anxious and worried.
i guess all the characters forgot about that incident already... :unsure:
thanks
I just finished watching ep.3 and got some what of it but i couldnt get what the sort of called girlfriend was telling haru but now i know thanks to you! i got the part where he didnt believe her side of the story :cussing: but now I like the pairing of doctor with haru! yeah after ep.2 i kinda figured out that linda is gay. Maybe he is still scared to admit it... :|
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Post by Salz » Apr 30th, '10, 00:40

long rambling below
i am one of the people who watch for Eita and Juri..
this is because i have always been a fan of their pairing since long ago and they finally act as a couple so i don't see anything wrong with wanting them to finally end up together since this already the 8th time they are working together so to finally see them ending up together is kinda a big deal for me...

but of course i am also a fan of other actor especially Tamayama Tetsuji and Jae Joong (i am also a TVXQ fan<3) and i am also big fan of the script written by Kitagawa Eriko<33
so of course i am very interested with their storyline as well not only of Eita&Juri^.^
i love that Doctor is the third wheel for Eita&Juri, his crush for Juri is sooooooo cute and his acting is not that bad<33
i am very interested with his character and also Linda, hopefully they would show good character development for all the side character and don't left them hanging in the end^^
they are a little bit similarity with LF since this is from the same team and director of LF and being the same genre dark drama so people can't stop comparing with LF^^;
though i hope people will give this drama a chance and watching it without any prejudice and keep comparing with every little scene happening in LF^^;
Doctor is nothing like Sousuke and none of the character have much similarity with LF character and they have different issue...
i do sense many prejudice against JaeJoong here since he is an idol and people seem keep bashing him everytime he is near Juri^^;
i hope people would give Jae Joong a chance and not being too hard of him just because he is an idol^^

of course i want Juri&Eita ending up together but i think a drama would be boring without the 3rd wheel to add more spice in the love triangle and make Nakaji realise he could lose Haru if he don't do any action :P
and i am more bothered with the married woman which Nakaji have affair with than Doctor...
Nakaji also deserve to feel the pain and jealousy that Haru suffer because of him so Doctor is there for that and i feel sorry for Doctor since i know he does not have whatever chance with Haru^^;

beside that they have a different scriptwriter which is the awesome Kitagawa Eriko so im sure she would not disappoint us with the script and i am sure the storyline will keep getting better and better each ep^^
though Peach story kinda bored me but hope they would show more of her background story and showing more side of her character than just the suicidal girl^^;
i am very curious of which one of the other 4 who commit suicide from the fiirst ep because each of them have issue of their own...kinda hope it is not Peach because i would get bored with too many of her suicide attempt :whistling:
this drama does getting better in ep2 and i am very excited fo ep3 :cheers:

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 30th, '10, 01:00

nnnc wrote:Out of all five, I don't like Haru and peach the most.
:blink :pale: :scratch:
miznagase wrote:omg episode 3 PISSED ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x
i am so disappointed in nakaji.
how can he still be with that bitchy married woman?!!!
she was telling haru that she was always destined to be with nakaji, but she ended up marrying that guy for his money. haru was right! :thumright:
UGH! what a joke! :crazy:
the fact that nakaji didn't believe haru just made me want to punch him in the face!!!
how can he trust that slutty girlfriend of his??!!
and what's up with him getting all frustrated after he saw her cuddling with her husband? :scratch:
now i'm starting to think that doctor should be with haru.
on to a different topic, this episode verified the fact that linda is gay.
his nasty boss apparently has a new guy to play around with.
linda should feel relieved, but he seemed to be upset about that for some reason... :scratch:
peach finally told haru that she's pregnant...finally! :roll
i don't know about you guys, but i find it really odd how no one seems to care too much about peach's suicide attempt.
if she were my friend, i would be really anxious and worried.
i guess all the characters forgot about that incident already... :unsure:
Like I said earlier: Nakaji is a knucklehead.
But Haru is not going to end up with Doctor.

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Post by kimigasukinanda » Apr 30th, '10, 01:17

Long rambing is long:
I'm really disappointed in Nakaji... what on earth would make him believe that nasty old married lady over Haru? I don't see how Haru would ever harm a person, and obviously this old lady is jealous. How does he not see that? But whatever, cuz the preview seems to show him and Haru getting back together :cheers:

Linda is gay, and his mom wants him to do an omiai! Gross!! I totally laughed when he closed his eyes and thought about Nakaji in order to kiss his fat old lady boss! LOL

I feel bad for Doctor... both of his happy things are going to disappear soon. Haru will go back to Nakaji, and he only got that contract with Linda's dad because he's his friend, so in the future he'll probably return to not being able to make any sales.

Anyone else really annoyed by these creepy kids in the show? First, Haru's bro... I don't understand why he's even in this show. He's so stupid and a drug addict, but the plot never goes anywhere. Seems boring to be honest. And then, the creepy kid in her class who keeps staring at her... I think him and Kiriko-san should get together. They're both psychos.
Out of all five, I don't like Haru and peach the most.
:blink :scratch: :whistling:

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Post by miznagase » Apr 30th, '10, 01:19

bmwracer wrote:
But Haru is not going to end up with Doctor.
i know... :-(
i wanted them to at least kiss at the end of the third episode, but that never happened.
jaejoong is too big of an idol to do a kiss scene, i guess :P
and juri would get a lot of bashing from jaejoong's fangirls :lol

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Post by miznagase » Apr 30th, '10, 01:25

kimigasukinanda wrote:
Linda is gay, and his mom wants him to do an omiai! Gross!! I totally laughed when he closed his eyes and thought about Nakaji in order to kiss his fat old lady boss! LOL
LOL :lol

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Post by nnnc » Apr 30th, '10, 03:46

Come back to clarify.

I don't like Haru because I don't like this type of character to begin with. She seems to be righteous but at the same time too scare to stand up for herself, and sometimes just wait for Nakaji to comes and rescues her. That's why she's going to be played by that student of hers.

Peach reminds me of female side-kick in many other dramas, a weird straightforward type who now comes with her own messed-up life. Maybe because it hasn't showed us much of her story but I don't care about her at all. In the second episode,
when she left message and committed suicide, I feel like she's just crying for attention. I don't feel that she's hurt at all.
Maybe it's the script, or maybe it's because of the acting. But I'm really annoyed with this character.

I can sympathize with Linda and doctor but NOT with Haru and Peach. That's why I said I don't like them. But maybe their stories will develop more in later episodes and I might come to like them. Nakaji is an interesting character. I want to scold him and want to comfort him at the same time. Eita is doing just right because I think this is the effect that the director/Kitagawa Eriko hope for.

Anyway, I haven't watched the third episode yet. So this is just my opinion from the first two episodes.

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Post by cherish3310 » Apr 30th, '10, 04:40

nnnc wrote:
Issy wrote: oh, i just totally agree with everything you said. too much hype about a subject makes people lose interest. espcially if it has started already waaaaaaaaay before the drama itself. one thing i don't understand, why all these dislike and hostility towards Doctor's character? this is the first time i know of Jae Jung and i had no idea who he was but i liked his character in here. are we going to treat him the same way he is being treated in the drama? :blink
I didn't like "doctor" at all in the first episode maybe because I couldn't get into the character. His acting was pretty bad in the first episode that it distracted me a lot. Jae's acting improved in the second episode and maybe because we learned more about "doctor", I'm developing some sympathy toward the character. Still don't like how "doctor" reacts in several situations though. Out of all five, I don't like Haru and peach the most.
For me as I watch episode 1 I didn't think that he's a doctor he's just a helper or something for that doctor 'Kang smth smth' the name card that he handed everyone in the first episode, 'doctor' is the name he used in twitter,...something like....

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Post by bmwracer » Apr 30th, '10, 04:49

nnnc, you should be using the spoiler tags more, huh? :sweat:
nnnc wrote:Come back to clarify.
I don't like Haru because I don't like this type of character to begin with. She seems to be righteous but at the same time too scare to stand up for herself, and sometimes just wait for Nakaji to comes and rescues her. That's why she's going to be played by that student of hers.
As mentioned in Episode 1, Haru has never had a boyfriend... And she lives at home, so she's probably quite naive and a "goody-two-shoes," but I don't think she's righteous or think she's better than the others...
Peach reminds me of female side-kick in many other dramas, a weird straightforward type who now comes with her own messed-up life. Maybe because it hasn't showed us much of her story but I don't care about her at all. In the second episode,
when she left message and committed suicide, I feel like she's just crying for attention. I don't feel that she's hurt at all.
Maybe it's the script, or maybe it's because of the acting. But I'm really annoyed with this character.
I pretty much agree... Peach is a selfish, attention-craving person. How HAru can be friends with her is beyond me. :scratch:
I can sympathize with Linda and doctor
I can with Linda, I can't with Doctor: Linda's stuck between a rock and a hard place and we've all been in that situation... Doctor is naive like Haru, but he's weak as well and that frustrates me... He needs to look in the mirror and get his act together, especially since he has a younger sister that depends on him.
Nakaji is an interesting character. I want to scold him and want to comfort him at the same time. Eita is doing just right because I think this is the effect that the director/Kitagawa Eriko hope for.
He's a knucklehead: it's inexplicable why he's toying with Haru and (the married) Kiriko... Very manipulative... :glare:

I hope future episodes will explain this.

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Post by Outside » Apr 30th, '10, 06:16

bmwracer wrote:
I can with Linda, I can't with Doctor: Linda's stuck between a rock and a hard place and we've all been in that situation... Doctor is naive like Haru, but he's weak as well and that frustrates me... He needs to look in the mirror and get his act together, especially since he has a younger sister that depends on him.
Eriko did said that if she knew jaejoong was so cool she wouldn’t have made Doctor character like that. lol

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