[Discussion] Atami no Sousakan (Odagiri Joe)
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[Discussion] Atami no Sousakan (Odagiri Joe)
Atami no Sousakan
Odagiri Joe
Info taken from Tokyograph
Actor Joe Odagiri (34) will star in a new drama series this summer on TV Asahi, titled "Atami no Sousakan."
The show reunites Odagiri with director and screenwriter Satoshi Miki,
whom he worked with on the popular mystery series "Jikou Keisatsu" in 2006 and 2007.
"Atami no Sousakan" begins with the disappearance of a school bus and four high school girls.
Still unsolved three years later, the case gets revived when one of the girls reappears.
Odagiri plays a sharp national investigator searching for the truth behind the incident,
which leads back to a seemingly peaceful town.
TV Asahi has not yet announced the time slot for the series.
Official Site
TV Asahi
Odagiri Joe
Info taken from Tokyograph
Actor Joe Odagiri (34) will star in a new drama series this summer on TV Asahi, titled "Atami no Sousakan."
The show reunites Odagiri with director and screenwriter Satoshi Miki,
whom he worked with on the popular mystery series "Jikou Keisatsu" in 2006 and 2007.
"Atami no Sousakan" begins with the disappearance of a school bus and four high school girls.
Still unsolved three years later, the case gets revived when one of the girls reappears.
Odagiri plays a sharp national investigator searching for the truth behind the incident,
which leads back to a seemingly peaceful town.
TV Asahi has not yet announced the time slot for the series.
Official Site
TV Asahi
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According to the official site, it doesn't begin airing until 30 July.siutou_amy wrote:Hello... =D
I was just reminded that this has already aired its first ep.
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ah, souka...toyotaku wrote: According to the official site, it doesn't begin airing until 30 July.
my bad!
I'll blame it on my late posting... I have no idea why I typed July 2nd. LOL
Thanks for the response xD
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Episode 1 looked good. I was right about the dark humor, but there was a lot more to it.
The American pop culture fashion "parade" was the 1st thing that stood out.
I wonder if the title had anything to do with it, but it was interesting that such a visual theme was used for everything local to Atami.
So far, I've noticed...
It's giving off an anachronistic feel to the show but I'm liking it already.
They seem to be using a lot of awkwardness and inappropriateness in the dialogues and scenes, which makes the humor the kind that will only leave you with a sheepish smile.
I'm not sure if it's a signature style of Miki Satoshi but it does have the feel of a more serious version of Jikou Keisatsu, and maybe Trick too.
At this point, I really curious about...
Lastly, there wasn't much revealed about the actual crime other than how...
It makes me wonder what kinda direction they're gonna take to solve the mysteries of the crime.
Overall, the mix of everything (visual or not) was weird but put together nicely. I think this one's not to be missed for any Jikou Keisatsu/Miki Satoshi fan IMO.
The theme song is great btw (what's not to like about Tokyo Jihen : P), probably the only orthodox thing about this drama too... JK.
The American pop culture fashion "parade" was the 1st thing that stood out.
I wonder if the title had anything to do with it, but it was interesting that such a visual theme was used for everything local to Atami.
So far, I've noticed...
They seem to be using a lot of awkwardness and inappropriateness in the dialogues and scenes, which makes the humor the kind that will only leave you with a sheepish smile.
I'm not sure if it's a signature style of Miki Satoshi but it does have the feel of a more serious version of Jikou Keisatsu, and maybe Trick too.
Overall, the mix of everything (visual or not) was weird but put together nicely. I think this one's not to be missed for any Jikou Keisatsu/Miki Satoshi fan IMO.
The theme song is great btw (what's not to like about Tokyo Jihen : P), probably the only orthodox thing about this drama too... JK.
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No wonder this feel so very different from all other dramas I've seen (in fact, it hardly feels like a drama at all). Not only does the director have a movie background, but he's responsible for Turtles Are Surprisingly Fast Swimmers, Adrift in Tokyo and Instant Swamp, all of which are very offbeat and funny movies (and quite highly acclaimed). I didn't even know Satoshi Miki has done dramas.
I really like the X-Files/Twin Peaks/Japan crossover. What's interesting about Odagiri's character is that he almost seems to know exactly what's going on, and is only playing along. He seems very self-aware. Well, I don't think he really knows, but he just gives that impression. It's also nice to see Kuriyama. I haven't watched any of her other dramas, but I've seen her around in movies.
I really like the X-Files/Twin Peaks/Japan crossover. What's interesting about Odagiri's character is that he almost seems to know exactly what's going on, and is only playing along. He seems very self-aware. Well, I don't think he really knows, but he just gives that impression. It's also nice to see Kuriyama. I haven't watched any of her other dramas, but I've seen her around in movies.
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Wow, now that you mention, it really does seem like this show is paying homage to that classic drama. It's been too long for me so I couldn't see the similarities.lollercopter wrote:Twin Peaks
Guess this explains the art direction and maybe other aspects of the show; like the left bend that the bus took, and the little coffee talk at the start of episode 2.
I even wonder now if Odagiri's character has a persona similar to Dale Cooper.
I have the same impression, that he's only playing dumb, but in reality he already has some ideas. I like how he reacts with other people: the little policewoman and the girl who is in love with him. Chiaki has really weird role, I hoped she would be more independent but she seems cluelesslollercopter wrote:What's interesting about Odagiri's character is that he almost seems to know exactly what's going on, and is only playing along. He seems very self-aware. Well, I don't think he really knows, but he just gives that impression. It's also nice to see Kuriyama. I haven't watched any of her other dramas, but I've seen her around in movies.
The teacher from school seems really suspicious to me, I don't think she will be responsible for the disappearance of the buss, but she definitely has something to hide.
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The similarities between this and Twin Peaks are endless.
Odagiri/Cooper
The local police force
The powerful man with connections to the mob and a secret brothel
The daughter of the powerful man who investigates the brothel and is attracted to the investigator
The weird locals
The scenes in a diner
The one survivor girl who awakens from a coma
As a big fan of Twin Peaks I'm very much liking the Japanese take on it
Did anyone else notice Shinonome walking toward the front of the bus when we see the girls in the window? I think she was being manipulated by someone to drive the bus.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to put spoiler tags around anything... this is my very first post D:
Odagiri/Cooper
The local police force
The powerful man with connections to the mob and a secret brothel
The daughter of the powerful man who investigates the brothel and is attracted to the investigator
The weird locals
The scenes in a diner
The one survivor girl who awakens from a coma
As a big fan of Twin Peaks I'm very much liking the Japanese take on it
Did anyone else notice Shinonome walking toward the front of the bus when we see the girls in the window? I think she was being manipulated by someone to drive the bus.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to put spoiler tags around anything... this is my very first post D:
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the song is" Tsubasa wo Kudasai" (Lend me your Wings, or Wings to Fly)What is the song the female teacher sings in 7 episode? I think I know it from somewhere...
The song is probably from a japanese band of the 70s called the Red Birds :
赤い鳥 - 翼をください
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7in5rpYU584
a recent cover in enlish :
Susan Boyle ~ Wings To Fly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Gaz1LsyhA
Best version :
K-ON!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rlnaEHUY4w
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OK, I've read some online users' explanations, but none covers all the loose ends (including my own - it seems the explanation may be in the DVD or there may be a 2nd season).
Some of the clues may be in the ending song's lyric:
There's only one truth if you say still I'm dreaming
You're acting in a play you call your life
The sketch of flowers on paper-Can you smell them?
Well, I would rather bloom for eternity
Don't talk to me
I'm gonna suck and drink your life right from you
No life in me
I've got no time for changeless things and useless things
Which one's the real face of the sky,day or night?
How do you think? Uh...I suppose it's both
It's contradicting the nature of existence
It's somewhere I must without delay
Good bye my sunshine
Good bye my darkest days
Cause I have just wasted my life away
I'm more dead than alive
Hello
I'm gonna suck and drink your life right from you
Don't come near me
Now it is time to recognize when you've crossed the bar
I am dead
There's only one truth if you say still I'm dreaming
You're acting in a play you call your life
The sketch of flowers on paper-Can you smell them?
Well, I would rather bloom for eternity
Don't talk to me
I'm gonna suck and drink your life right from you
No life in me
I've got no time for changeless things and useless things
Which one's the real face of the sky,day or night?
How do you think? Uh...I suppose it's both
It's contradicting the nature of existence
It's somewhere I must without delay
Good bye my sunshine
Good bye my darkest days
Cause I have just wasted my life away
I'm more dead than alive
Hello
I'm gonna suck and drink your life right from you
Don't come near me
Now it is time to recognize when you've crossed the bar
I am dead
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based on what Ive read last nightjustpeachy wrote:Loved this drama. It was fun, quirky, interesting, and oh so retro. The characters were unique and entertaining, especially the investigators/cops. I really, really didn't want this drama to end. But again, another drama this season ended with unanswered questions.
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I think this show was immensely promising at first, but the various plot threads didn't end up connecting in a coherent way, with some of them being seemingly forgotten along the way, and the final scene just came completely out of left field and didn't answer anything.
Also, the part where Kitajima fights the villain was some of the most cringe-inducing television I've seen in a while.
Also, the part where Kitajima fights the villain was some of the most cringe-inducing television I've seen in a while.
What the hell just happened lol...and reading the theories you guys have put up, maybe I will have to rewatch this one to see if I can pick up on some things I never noticed before. I think this is one of the best dramas in terms of building up tension - the show didn't necessarily have a lot of "boom" moments, but it still kept me holding my breath.
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Thanks Mirokujin and everyone for explaining everything. I'm not very good with interpretations and tend to take everything literally. For most of the drama, I thought it was just your normal crime show that's trying to solve a long unsolved mystery. "I'm so useless." lol.Mirokujin wrote:based on what Ive read last night
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The ratings was average. You can check them on soompicaptbanana wrote:Any word on a second season? anyone know what the ratings were like?
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«minah» Anything by Satoshi Miki is good
Thanks for the info Reira_pl the ratings don't look overly great, I hear people are saying there's a lot of buzz on the internet on J sites about it, lets hope it was relatively cheap to make and / or dvd sales are good, if that happens I think there will be a new season *crosses fingers*
Thanks for the info Reira_pl the ratings don't look overly great, I hear people are saying there's a lot of buzz on the internet on J sites about it, lets hope it was relatively cheap to make and / or dvd sales are good, if that happens I think there will be a new season *crosses fingers*
I'm sure there were some things about the end that went completely over my head and there were a lot of questions that I felt went unanswered but I really don't see where there could be a second season. The end felt like an end to me.
I'm sooo confused about the ending though! One thing off of the top of my head, the population of the school... so many girls and just 2 boys (ahh look there's 2 again!) it seemed odd to me and now it seems even odder. I wonder if that could be connected to any theories in any way?
Also how about the detective who came and went (hah I forget his name), when I look back on it without him Atami (or the world or whatever) would have felt really closed off, like it was hard to freely come and go but he did. So where does he fit in?
I'm sooo confused about the ending though! One thing off of the top of my head, the population of the school... so many girls and just 2 boys (ahh look there's 2 again!) it seemed odd to me and now it seems even odder. I wonder if that could be connected to any theories in any way?
Also how about the detective who came and went (hah I forget his name), when I look back on it without him Atami (or the world or whatever) would have felt really closed off, like it was hard to freely come and go but he did. So where does he fit in?
I just finished the finale and... wow. I really loved this series. The writing and direction were excellent. It was so well-acted and visually interesting, they really crafted every scene.
The end really threw me. Thank you to all who posted theories - it makes more sense to me now!
I got the feeling the end was the end and there won't be a second season. And I agree this will likely be a cult and DVD hit.
I love this writer/director's work so hopefully he'll come up with another unique series.
The end really threw me. Thank you to all who posted theories - it makes more sense to me now!
I got the feeling the end was the end and there won't be a second season. And I agree this will likely be a cult and DVD hit.
I love this writer/director's work so hopefully he'll come up with another unique series.
I've watched so many series this season. This is the one that I downloaded for quite some time and only watched it yesterday. Good thing I don't miss this one. It is my favorite among all summer series.. I find it with David Lynch "feel", esp. Twin Peak. I add one more similarity. Cooper like to talk to the voice recorder for the progress of the case, while Odagiri talk to the boss over the phone (but you never hear the voice of the boss).StatelessRich wrote:The similarities between this and Twin Peaks are endless.
Odagiri/Cooper
The local police force
The powerful man with connections to the mob and a secret brothel
The daughter of the powerful man who investigates the brothel and is attracted to the investigator
The weird locals
The scenes in a diner
The one survivor girl who awakens from a coma
As a big fan of Twin Peaks I'm very much liking the Japanese take on it
Did anyone else notice Shinonome walking toward the front of the bus when we see the girls in the window? I think she was being manipulated by someone to drive the bus.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to put spoiler tags around anything... this is my very first post D:
One thing I like about this show is the tongue-in-cheek approach of how the pseudo-world was made. Part of that was the extensive (and sometimes slightly humorous) use of "number puns".
Like the number plates of the school bus and Hoshizaki's car, pretty much every significant number that belonged to something or someone had been specifically selected as a "label" to it.
Here are others I found:
South Atami Police's land-rover [5963] - "gokurosan" means "thank you for your efforts".
This one reflected how the three at South Atami helped our two leads with their investigation.
The nature conservation group's van [4649] - "yoroshiku" is used as a gesture when seeking cooperation with others.
So this one probably indicated their relationship with the district office.
Mayor's car [1188] - "iipapa" which means a good father.
Amount of money left inside the masked attacker's wallet from ep4 [¥1564] - "hitogoroshi" = murderer.
Hoshizaki's police badge serial number [4652] - "yorokobu" means "to be delighted".
This one was probably to describe his perpetual smiley face.
Kitajima's police badge serial number [4821] - I couldn't find other people's interpretation on this so I'm guessing that it could probably translate to "yohani" or "your honey".
Display outside South Atami Police Station [24689] - This figure has a description indicating the number of days since a traffic accident had occured.
Which goes to show that the town probably had "frozen in time" since 67 years ago. I guess this one explains the attire and fashion of the townsfolk, as well as some other stuffs.
Another thing I like about this drama is how the context of the visuals and dialogues are "camouflaged" prior to knowing that the underlying theme has an unorthodox take on life beyond the physical consciousness, requiring a second viewing.
Sasuga Miki Satoshi.
Like the number plates of the school bus and Hoshizaki's car, pretty much every significant number that belonged to something or someone had been specifically selected as a "label" to it.
Here are others I found:
South Atami Police's land-rover [5963] - "gokurosan" means "thank you for your efforts".
This one reflected how the three at South Atami helped our two leads with their investigation.
The nature conservation group's van [4649] - "yoroshiku" is used as a gesture when seeking cooperation with others.
So this one probably indicated their relationship with the district office.
Mayor's car [1188] - "iipapa" which means a good father.
Amount of money left inside the masked attacker's wallet from ep4 [¥1564] - "hitogoroshi" = murderer.
Hoshizaki's police badge serial number [4652] - "yorokobu" means "to be delighted".
This one was probably to describe his perpetual smiley face.
Kitajima's police badge serial number [4821] - I couldn't find other people's interpretation on this so I'm guessing that it could probably translate to "yohani" or "your honey".
Display outside South Atami Police Station [24689] - This figure has a description indicating the number of days since a traffic accident had occured.
Which goes to show that the town probably had "frozen in time" since 67 years ago. I guess this one explains the attire and fashion of the townsfolk, as well as some other stuffs.
Another thing I like about this drama is how the context of the visuals and dialogues are "camouflaged" prior to knowing that the underlying theme has an unorthodox take on life beyond the physical consciousness, requiring a second viewing.
Sasuga Miki Satoshi.
Oh, some people have stated that are some indications in the last episode that the actual investigations take time in 2013, so the bus incident ocurr in 2010, our current time. In other words, actually the city doesn't have traffic accidents since around 1945.chokubi wrote: Display outside South Atami Police Station [24689] - This figure has a description indicating the number of days since a traffic accident had occured.
Which goes to show that the town probably had "frozen in time" since 67 years ago. I guess this one explains the attire and fashion of the townsfolk, as well as some other stuffs.
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Yes, I agree too. A clear evidence of this is the date displayed on the camera monitors during the gunfight scene. Hence why I used quotation marks when I said "frozen in time" cos I didn't mean it in the literal sense.clakaz wrote:Oh, some people have stated that are some indications in the last episode that the actual investigations take time in 2013, so the bus incident ocurr in 2010, our current time. In other words, actually the city doesn't have traffic accidents since around 1945.
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The part about being traffic accident-free for so long isn't logically possible. It adds to the supernatural element of the town.
my very favourite
I can't praise this inventive dorama enough. I tried the Trick series after viewing this, and I loved it, but this show will always be at the top for me. My mind and senses have seldom been so fully engaged watching television - what a treat for a cinephile like myself.
Just finished watching the last episode (from the US)--Awesome. I've just started watching jdramas and don't have the advatages of being able to pick up all the Japanese cultural, religious and mythological (?) references, but I am a big fan of similar American works like Mulholland Drive (which I think is the standard), Lost, Twin Peaks, and try to see an old american Western TV movie called Purgatory. Anyway, I wanted to throw a couple of things out there while still fresh in my mind (sorry if these were mentioned here or elsewhere... I've just begun to look for theories-I'm disappointed I couldn't join discussions earlier.):
I just watched this one too, and really enjoyed it.
A second season could be nice (if done right) for some expansion on the story.
I'm very bad with names and faces, but I still can't believe I didn't realize that that was Chiaki Kuriyama until I was looking up info on the show after I watched it. I think she looked different in this show then before, and it's only been 5 years since Azumi 2, I wouldn't have thought I that would make that much difference. Maybe it's just the hair, she pretty much always use to have low bangs.
A second season could be nice (if done right) for some expansion on the story.
I'm very bad with names and faces, but I still can't believe I didn't realize that that was Chiaki Kuriyama until I was looking up info on the show after I watched it. I think she looked different in this show then before, and it's only been 5 years since Azumi 2, I wouldn't have thought I that would make that much difference. Maybe it's just the hair, she pretty much always use to have low bangs.
"Gnossienne" was a word invented by Satie, who frequented various gnostic sects, which believed that the cosmos was created by an imperfect God. See Wikipedia which will tell you more than you want to know about gnostic religions. Cool, huh?antspace wrote:It's Gnossienne nr.1 by Erik Satie. All of the music in this series is so good. All of this series is so good : ) The soundtrack contains the piano version and also the saxophone version. I believe it's still for sale at cdjapan. At least that's where I bought it.
Nice catch Quluts.
I am going to chime in with some similarities to the killer funny early 80s TV show called Police Squad, starring the sadly departed Leslie Neilson.
The intro announcer on Police Squad would boldly proclaim the name of each episode while a totally different title flashed up on the screen.
The intro announcer for ANS varied his recital of the show's title from a hoarse whisper to a half-strangled scream, seemingly apropos of nothing.
The gags aren't identical, but the MO is the same.
One of the highlights of watching Police Squad was noticing weird things in the background, such as the posters on the walls. ANS is the same way.
In ANS, the tall potted plant in the police station's meeting room (not the interrogation room) was always smack in the middle of the head of the table. Though it was obviously and completely in the way in several episodes, the characters were brilliant at craning their necks around it and contorting their bodies to narrowly avoid bumping into it, all the while oblivious to its presence. This running gag was definitely reminiscent of Police Squad.
Lastly, just like Police Squad, the more attentively you view Atami no Sousakan, the bigger the payoff. Multiple viewings always reveal things that were missed the first time around. My kinda show.
I am going to chime in with some similarities to the killer funny early 80s TV show called Police Squad, starring the sadly departed Leslie Neilson.
The intro announcer on Police Squad would boldly proclaim the name of each episode while a totally different title flashed up on the screen.
The intro announcer for ANS varied his recital of the show's title from a hoarse whisper to a half-strangled scream, seemingly apropos of nothing.
The gags aren't identical, but the MO is the same.
One of the highlights of watching Police Squad was noticing weird things in the background, such as the posters on the walls. ANS is the same way.
In ANS, the tall potted plant in the police station's meeting room (not the interrogation room) was always smack in the middle of the head of the table. Though it was obviously and completely in the way in several episodes, the characters were brilliant at craning their necks around it and contorting their bodies to narrowly avoid bumping into it, all the while oblivious to its presence. This running gag was definitely reminiscent of Police Squad.
Lastly, just like Police Squad, the more attentively you view Atami no Sousakan, the bigger the payoff. Multiple viewings always reveal things that were missed the first time around. My kinda show.
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This drama has once again proved how stupid I actually am. Honestly, I have zero ability for understanding symbolism. All of you who were actually able to pull such meanings out of this, well, my brain functions are that of an ameba compaired to yours. I'm deeply depressed right. I mean, I really liked it, but it would've been much more interesting if I hadn't taken it too literally.
It's all a game
S.Spiegal says,
This drama has once again proved how stupid I actually am. Honestly, I have zero ability for understanding symbolism. All of you who were actually able to pull such meanings out of this, well, my brain functions are that of an amoeba compared to yours. I'm deeply depressed right. I mean, I really liked it, but it would've been much more interesting if I hadn't taken it too literally.
I know you are just making fun of us, but few of us (myself included) noticed all the allusions and symbolism while we were enjoying it. We liked it so much that we are simply prolonging the pleasure by "looking for Easter Eggs" afterwards, as a computer game player would say. No one of us is all that smart (or conceited!); it took all of us combined with the help of Wikipedia to figured out what little bit we have. Plus some of us are codgers, with a lifetime of trivia to draw upon.
Gaijins might assume that references to "Police Squad" or Satie would be too obscure for the Japanese viewer, but American and European culture pervade the Japanese media. They even had "Monty Python" on Japanese TV! (However, they also had a panel on afterwords to try to explain the humor).
This doesn't spoil the underlying mysteries of the series for me, and I hope it doesn't spoil it for you. I can watch it over and over again, and enjoy it more each time.
This drama has once again proved how stupid I actually am. Honestly, I have zero ability for understanding symbolism. All of you who were actually able to pull such meanings out of this, well, my brain functions are that of an amoeba compared to yours. I'm deeply depressed right. I mean, I really liked it, but it would've been much more interesting if I hadn't taken it too literally.
I know you are just making fun of us, but few of us (myself included) noticed all the allusions and symbolism while we were enjoying it. We liked it so much that we are simply prolonging the pleasure by "looking for Easter Eggs" afterwards, as a computer game player would say. No one of us is all that smart (or conceited!); it took all of us combined with the help of Wikipedia to figured out what little bit we have. Plus some of us are codgers, with a lifetime of trivia to draw upon.
Gaijins might assume that references to "Police Squad" or Satie would be too obscure for the Japanese viewer, but American and European culture pervade the Japanese media. They even had "Monty Python" on Japanese TV! (However, they also had a panel on afterwords to try to explain the humor).
This doesn't spoil the underlying mysteries of the series for me, and I hope it doesn't spoil it for you. I can watch it over and over again, and enjoy it more each time.
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