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what do u think when u see your idol naked in magazines?
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 06:24
by caramelchampagne
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 06:27
by caramelchampagne
I HOPE TOMA IKUTA WON'T BE NEXT AND I THINK AFTER YAMAPI PHOTO SHOOTING IT COURAGE AKINASHI TO GO FOR IT TOO:( kame run away looooooooool
Get over it
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 07:16
by mowgwie
You obviously have some real prudish issues about nudity. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. And sorry, nude photographs are not pornography! Especially the very mild kind they are likely to print in fan magazines.
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 09:28
by Karate-ka
Cultures are diffrent Japan is very free in that kind of stuff.
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 10:21
by Tass
Honey,...
first off: I would have read your post even it weren't written in big red letters.
Use the normal font without bright colors.
It's good enough for us, it will do the job for you as well.
It's funny to see how you react. A naked chest, spilled some water over their muscular arms?
Those photos are considerate fanservice in japan. It's the most normal thing there.
Even in the rest of the world it's not a big deal (American hillbillies aside) but you as a girl from egypt almost got a heart attack.
I mean, they're good looking. It's not that you were looking at pictures of me.
Why don't you enjoy it?
I find it very interesting to see all those different cultures interact, thanks to the internet.
Take it as a chance to learn something new.
BTW: yamapi is tinyyyyy~
did they really show that?
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 19:50
by mowgwie
Your post says Yamapi is tiny - did they really show "that"? Oh, my - where can I see the pictures????
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 20:54
by skirara
I am going to be completely honest to the question "What do you think when you see your idol naked in magazines?" Several thoughts come across my mind.
Firstly, "Wow, I'd hit that." Secondly, "I wonder if he really is tiny." Thirdly, "I took photography, I wonder if I could get a career that involves naked japanese idols...."
Fanservice sells. If there were a choice of magazines, one with a naked Yamapi insert, and one without, I do wonder what the majority of us would buy......
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 21:42
by ayaseharukaftw
I think to myself.. I WANT THAT! If you don't like what you see just ignore it and see your favorite idols as whatever they are. I don't see what the big deal is.
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 22:11
by caramelchampagne
looool to skirara when i read you reply i liked your honesty any way thanx for being so honest
but any way guys i respect your point of view and i hope u respect mine too
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 22:14
by TofuQueen
Hmm well...it really depends...
If it's a situation where the celebrity is ALWAYS showing up nude, then I'd have a negative reaction to that person, something like, "oh, they're just banking on sex appeal, probably have zero talent" and while I might enjoy some of the photos I wouldn't have a very high opinion of that person.
If the photos are just tasteless or trashy looking, then I wouldn't enjoy 'em AND my opinion of that person would go down.
However, if they're occasional and nicely done, I have no problems with it at all.
My favorite J-pop group is Arashi, also Johnny's idols, and while they've done some nude/nearly nude photos, in the majority of their photos they're clothed.
Edit - meant to say but forgot, that I haven't seen any of the photos referred to in the original message & don't even know who Edison Chen is, nevermind what his photo scandal was about.
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 22:23
by caramelchampagne
well akanishi jin photos for me it was so trashy i'm not the only one who is saying that even u can check the comment that was written under those photos most of negative comments actually was for the photos of matsumoto jun and akanashi jin that was puplished in AN AN magazine and you can google it but can any one plz tell me what johny's point of view of the "clean image " oh and if we imagine that some of these photos was for exmple of one of hollywood celeb. ppl in usa i think will consider it as scandel or they just will be happy about it
by the way i'm not against your ideas guys but i wanna know how ppl will react and think about this issue
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 22:37
by Melissa100
There have been cases where I thought a little less of a woman who did nudity but I'm always happy to see male nudity. I guess that makes me a hypocrite.
To Caramelchampagne, I can see where you are coming from. If you fell for someone because of their innocent image then seeing them doing something overtly sexual could be a real turn off.
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 23:29
by Puppet Princess
Um.... WTF?
Edison Chen's situation is not even in the same freaking ballpark as Japanese johnny's boys posing in magazines half nude.
Other than the fact that China and Japan have different views about nudity and porn... well, that is the difference. One is just nudity the other was porn.
Johnny's boys are getting paid to pose semi-nude in published magazines.
Edison's scandal was because they were private pictures of his sexcapades with his past girlfriends that were stolen. It was actually porn with genitalia engaging in sexual activities being VERY visible. He didn't get paid for this and it wasn't a photo shoot. It was an invasion of privacy. While no one was shocked by the fact that Edison was a naughty boy when he was younger (that everyone knew), the issue was more about the fact that several very famous women who were well off and married with children since they stopped dating Edison YEARS ago were tarnished with the photos along with Edison.
So please, do not compare things like Yamapi's LV shoot to Edison's homemade porn. It's not the same and it's insulting to all parties to say they are.
And for the record. Edison only had to drop his career in China for the unforeseeable future. He is still working in North America though.
OMG
Posted: Dec 6th, '09, 23:56
by Basuha
@ tass your are sick lol Yamapi is tiny rotfl...........It not that I THOUGHT he was big but tiny? lollollol you killing me! Oh yeah I don't see nothing wrong with photo or even bed scenes. I personal perfer when the actor shows his butt, especially if it's as nice as Kim Rae Won in (Plum Blossom) or Kwon Kye Sang in (Moonlight in Seoul). They may not know how to kiss, but they do nice bed scenes in (MOVIES) of course. God forbid if they do an proper kiss in these damm drama I'm hooked on!
Posted: Dec 7th, '09, 01:26
by Harle
After reading this topic, it's pretty obvious someone is not getting any.
Second, what kind of lousy porn have you been watching to compare it to the photos of An.An magazine?
And Third: you shouldn't compare a sex scandal (Edison Chen's) to the pictures of that prestigious magazine. Only the ones who are at the peak of their careers have gotten the honor to pose nude for An.An The ones who have the best pictures of all time are Kimura Takuya and Akanishi Jin. They're the only ones who made the photoshoot look natural and believable.
Everyone (Kamenashi's fans, I mean) was so sure he was the one from KAT-TUN who was going to pose naked for that photoshoot you hate so much, so it was really surprising to realize that the one who was actually asked to appear was Jin.
(Even though Kame has worked his ass off , he hasn't been invited by the producers to do so... maybe because he might not be interesting enough for them, even though he can be seen everywhere).
Artistic/ Nasty/ Trashy/ Something that's completely normal/ A way to appreciate the beauty of the naked body...
That's for everyone to judge... based on our own repressions and downright ignorance.
Posted: Dec 7th, '09, 02:42
by Mirokujin
Can Kame fans leave Jin alone? (no, I'm not talking about all kame fans, but I'm talking about kame fans like this caramelchampagne My friend just told me what she did here and in kame thread).
BTW, Jin in ANAN this year doesn't mean your Kame won't be naked in ANAN with a female model next year...
Posted: Dec 7th, '09, 20:28
by menaine
I was really shock at first time i saw Yamapi's An an
But after a while (a couple months) i ignored it
I realized there is a wide difference of my country culture and japan culture
But still in my point a view (regarding to my culture) I disagree with that picture
caramelchampagne wrote:I HOPE TOMA IKUTA WON'T BE NEXT
i doubt that
jun appear in An an around HYD movie launching
Yamapi around Kurosagi movie launching
Jin around bandage movuei aroud
in my predict toma is the next, with his 2 movies for 2010 or 2011?
I don't know if it has correlative or no, but i'm worried, oh i don't wanna see Toma doing that job
Photos.
Posted: Dec 7th, '09, 21:09
by Peggy
There is nothing more beautiful than a perfect human body. Ancient Greek sculptures and even some ancient Egyptian bas reliefs show nude forms. Nothing wrong with nature.
The AnAn photos are not pornagraphic at all. They are very well done, and the photographer has been very careful to arrange every detail so that what you see is only magnified in your own vision.
The original early photos of Kimura were very well done and not offensive in any way. Sensual..yes... even a little cheeky (pardon the pun) but nothing to get alarmed about at all.
Peggy
Posted: Dec 7th, '09, 21:37
by caramelchampagne
Posted: Dec 29th, '09, 03:28
by outcast_within
there exist naked pictures of yamapi? lol i got to find them to show em to a girl i know
Posted: Dec 29th, '09, 03:57
by aznlilboiz
nudity is pretty normal, i think. also, people welling to do anything to survive is this world.....so, im fine with seeing celebrities naked.
Posted: Jan 1st, '10, 01:15
by totemokakkoii
interesting topic.
though none who did it in Anan were my idols, I was initially shocked when i realised they actually did that. but after a while.. i was like "ok.. whatever.." things like that, i guess just needs to take some time to 'get use to' and to accept the different in culture.
but frankly speaking no matter how much i like a particular actor, i would still prefer to see him fully clothed fashionably, rather than au natural. cos to speak the truth, they are just idols, i still hope to leave some form of 'distance' between me and him. seeing him au natural, it is like "alright.. so there's nothing to hide" haha.. the kinda of 'distance' and respect or admiration kinda feelings will be gone.
ps: i have idols who posed semi nude in pictorial books.. and i have cpme with terms about it.. lol
and ps: i totally won't want to see toma-kun naked... haha.. i mean he is supposed to be cute, not sexy/hot/sensual. totally wrong image.
Posted: Jan 1st, '10, 11:24
by JaJe
You´re talking about ANAN photos?
Well...
1) ANAN is that kind of magazine that makes this kind of pictures - and this kind of pictures are called art too.
2) YamaPi isn´t and hasn´t got tiny - trust me - if a guy has a tiny, then he wouldn´t do such photo shoots!
3) Only guys who are totally confident about their look and sex appeal are able to do such photo shoots.
4) NO "IT" isn´t shown there - that would be called porn, but as it isn´t, it´s called art.
5) If my idol wants to do it, then I should support him with all my might!
I have no problem with seeing my idol naked in a magazine (I already have), I only pray that my mother won´t have the chance to see those pictures
Posted: Jan 1st, '10, 12:11
by taylor
me either
Posted: Jan 1st, '10, 12:35
by SweR
i think japanese people don't mokind that
actully alot of people find this OK
about myself i feel disgust if i see that @@
thanx god that i didn't see any until now ><
Posted: Jan 7th, '10, 09:52
by koyuki-chan
IMHO for me, it's only part of their job. fullstop.
i think i will be proud if my idol is featured into an art. yes, i say it's an art.. is not porn which you can compare to Edison Chan. Totally different.
Not everyone can be chosen or can produce that kind of photoshoot. Not everyone are confident enough to show their sex appeal, i agree with that. I don't see any porn at all in their picture and the photos helps its artist to boost his popularity so why not?
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 13:28
by dattebayoXD
Hello ^^
Well, I really like those half-naked photos xDD Well, everyone has those amazing bodies, so why not show them off? xD
Well, although I sometimes get disturbed with those completely naked shots...Like Okada Junichi xDD he was the first idol's naked photos I saw , but after that, more and more popped out, so i kind of got used to them xDDD Although i still don't drool over them, but if the idols themselves have nothing against it, isn't it ok? :o
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 16:21
by piii
i think it's okay,i like those pics becuz it's more than i could even imagine to see of them xD~ ...
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 17:12
by PapaiyaMangô
I'm okay with male idols getting naked. I think it's nice, pretty and hilarious.
But I totally disagree when it comes to female idols. It's scandalous. Because when female idols get naked, I don't think they do that on their own. Plus they downgrade the image of feminine beauty so it's a prejudice against sexuality.
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 17:29
by Néa Vanille
In response to the question:
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sums is up pretty well, lol.
Japan in general has always been very accepting of the naked human body and seen it as 'natural', relative to other cultures (while in contrast to some of these other cultures, the Japanese tend to frown more upon public affection -- I think both is a-okay.
)
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 18:20
by stephieru
I really think that it all depends on your culture or even how old you are, or maybe even how media corrupted you are (not that being corrupted is a bad thing, i for one have been corrupted for years). But for places like Japan where a simple half/fully naked picture would be rated R or NC-17 in other cultures could even be Rated PG or G in another. It really depends on the public's personal view to whoever is doing that shoot. Yes people could be offended but it's not like they show anything bad.
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 18:44
by HIRMU
I don't really think that i would enjoy watching pictures of naked men, hmm....
Posted: Jan 13th, '10, 19:38
by Karate-ka
HIRMU wrote:I don't really think that i would enjoy watching pictures of naked men, hmm....
Gee i wonder why lol
Posted: Feb 2nd, '10, 07:28
by Tadanga
I remember being devastated when I first saw Hamasaki Ayumi's "photobook" a few years back.
So I can relate to your disappointment.
I pity how all these artists have forsaken any control over their person and body, anything goes to squeeze another yen from fans.
All those rumors about "give-away" contracts only confirm that these young people have sold themselves into slavery to become stars.
Posted: Feb 2nd, '10, 22:24
by Mai-Soon
"I think a man's sexiness isn't about how he models his body. It's how he brings out more expressions, so to speak. I have no idea how everyone will view my appearance this time, but I'll be happy if girls will turn to it with a sexy glance. But to be honest, it's very embarrassing (laughs)."
this quote is by Sakurai Sho during his photo shot in An-An...
i'm from Egypt as well where nude photo-shot is a no-no not an ART...but i fully understand the differences of Traditions and cultures....
so i didn't feel anything when i saw my fav idols nude photos..because as i mentioned above i know the differences
but what annoys me is some people didn't understand that there are a lot of other cultures that don't accept this...they took it as if we are narrow-minded or retards ...
just as someone said here...
If you don't like what you see just ignore it
..
& don't try to force the others to be like you
Posted: Feb 2nd, '10, 23:10
by RivFader
I don't feel the need to see my favourite actresses/idols naked.
For example Yoshino Kimika...
I really liked her in the first two Eko Eko Azarak movies and Gozu.
I was really disappointed when she did some kind of obscure AV movie.
I would rather have her do small B-movie parts than such kind of crap!!!
I hope actresses like Kitagawa Keiko, Fukada Kyoko or Ueto Aya won't do that later!
Probably not, because they are already bigger actresses then Yoshino Kimika ever was.
Posted: Feb 2nd, '10, 23:49
by ayaseharukaftw
RivFader wrote:I don't feel the need to see my favourite actresses/idols naked.
For example Yoshino Kimika...
I really liked her in the first two Eko Eko Azarak movies and Gozu.
I was really disappointed when she did some kind of obscure AV movie.
I would rather have her do small B-movie parts than such kind of crap!!!
I hope actresses like Kitagawa Keiko, Fukada Kyoko or Ueto Aya won't do that later!
Probably not, because they are already bigger actresses then Yoshino Kimika ever was.
Kyoko and Aya have done gravure work before.
Posted: Apr 18th, '10, 15:38
by JaJe
HAHA Now you´ve got it!!!
Guess who´s in ANAN nr 1705
Yep you´re right! That´s the one and only idol you
didn´t want to see in ANAN :
Ikuta Toma!
(At least he is alone in these and well let me say it: he even looks a little bit hot - he´s not my type other wise
)
Posted: Apr 19th, '10, 14:09
by Karate-ka
and thus the triangle is complete.
Posted: Apr 25th, '10, 16:50
by totemokakkoii
JaJe wrote:
HAHA Now you´ve got it!!!
Guess who´s in ANAN nr 1705
Yep you´re right! That´s the one and only idol you
didn´t want to see in ANAN :
Ikuta Toma!
(At least he is alone in these and well let me say it: he even looks a little bit hot - he´s not my type other wise
)
I was "devastated" when i first knew about it.. i was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"... then when i saw the pictures.. ok.. at least they were more decent... no female model, no full butt (only some butt crack).. lol.. i din get a heart attack from seeing it... hahaha.... if he was to do some pic similar to akanishi jin, i will develop a heartache which last forever. lolz
Posted: Apr 25th, '10, 20:49
by Reikaa
i agree that nudity can be an art, but i think that depends of the connection that the photographer and the model have together. Also, the model's facial expression is essential to communicate with people who are seeing his pictures, cause a sexy picture can really become cheap porn just with the way that the model portrays it.
I only saw Toma's, Yamapi's, Sho's, Matsujun's and Kimutaku's and I gotta say: Yamapi's sucked. It's so strange that he's always soo sexy in NewS' DVDs that i watched, but in this photoshoot he was...ok. I think he has a really beautiful face, but in there he was...bizarre. It didn't seem like it's was him. Maybe he was uncomfortable, idk. But oh well, i gotta say, he has a really nice body! And the his picture in the shower with the girl was too much, i didn't think it was really sexy. The rest of Johnny's were really hot! Specially Kimutaku who seemed too comfortable that really shocked at first, but the whole photoshooting's compositions were really beautiful.
Posted: Apr 26th, '10, 13:15
by totemokakkoii
Reikaa wrote: Specially Kimutaku who seemed too comfortable that really shocked at first, but the whole photoshooting's compositions were really beautiful.
wahahaha... probably he does that every other day..
kidding, fangirls please don't bash me!
Posted: Apr 27th, '10, 03:29
by miznagase
narimiya hiroki already posed semi-nude in anan
i saw those pictures, and he looks GORGEOUS!!!
Posted: May 9th, '10, 13:34
by biraincute
When I saw those pics I was like, "oooh~ so hot~" but I think there's nothing wrong with that. Its all fan service, to corrupt each fan girls' mind to love her beloved idol more. Jin's and Yamapi's were a little extreme but I think it boost their popularity.
Posted: Jun 26th, '10, 08:39
by Peggy
What's there to think? Just look..... and maybe find the magnifying glass.
Must say some of them should not bother..
Peg
Posted: Jun 26th, '10, 08:54
by ooijanice
What else except enjoy the sight................. to them its showmanship.
Finding the magnifying glass
Posted: Jun 26th, '10, 09:05
by mowgwie
Peggy wrote:What's there to think? Just look..... and maybe find the magnifying glass.
Must say some of them should not bother..
Peg
I had to laugh when reading about looking for the magnifying glass! But what do you expect - they're Japanese.
Posted: Jun 27th, '10, 04:06
by Peggy
Oh..Mowgwie..
I was not casting any aspersions. I would do the same for any shapely bod.
Rudolph Nuryev has a lovely physique. worth a magnifyng glass
Kimura and
Shingo in the same category.
Peg
Posted: Jun 28th, '10, 19:31
by Ethlenn
Aigoo, we are peer-to-peer community. Based on sharing, right? Celebrites have also something to share. Let them.
Peggy:
you almost made my heart stop with laughter...
(you know I'm very spoiled, naughty, dirty girl^^)
Plus, the second choice in the poll:
no it's humiliating and disrespect for the fans
How come it is humiliating? It doesn't humiliate me at least.
Disrespect?
So should I place them on the altar and chant their impeccability and genderless body? Heck, I speak as a girl: a nice man's body photographed in a nice photoshoot is... well, nice
Posted: Jun 29th, '10, 21:31
by Peggy
I really think there are still people who would put the fig leaves back on the David statue.
I can never understand the hangups still around about the human body.
It's that damned apple.
Peg
Posted: Jun 29th, '10, 23:33
by Ethlenn
This is called "false embarrassment".
It's that damned weak will.
Posted: Jun 29th, '10, 23:45
by Fantastical
so......how about a link to some of these pictures?
I mean are we seeing penis and dangling shaven scrotums or just some butt cheeks?
I can't make judgment until I see. so...someone send me a link in my ol' inbox
Posted: Jun 29th, '10, 23:56
by Ethlenn
No, those things are not visible. Just sometimes a piece of tush^^
Posted: Jun 30th, '10, 00:11
by Fantastical
oh come on!
SO then it's just the run of the mill french toilet water ads? I thogh it was throbbin veiny ding a lings...
So in essence it was no more worse than the bathing scenes in Chuno?
Posted: Jun 30th, '10, 00:21
by Ethlenn
Yup, basically this kind of.
see here:
Some shoots
Posted: Jun 30th, '10, 00:48
by Fantastical
(looks at photos) All y'all hatin these photo are some jealous....nope..gonna keep it at least safe for work.
My god that ain't nuthin? You can't even see full ass cheek! Personally I am disappointed. But hey...
I say the edison chen pics and vids. Now that was racy...he did need to shave down there but that is another story. But this...this is just ....advertisement photos.
Hell, you can barely see HIS nipples!
Posted: Feb 2nd, '11, 15:40
by Zazaza29
Sorry for reviving a dead thread, but I'm just curious -- anyone knows the full list of guys who have posed naked/semi-naked in An An?
The only ones I know of are:
- Takuya Kimura
- Okada Junichi
- Matsumoto Jun
- Yamapi
- Osamu Mukai
- Akanishi Jin
- Sakurai Sho
Anyone else?
(Seems like Mukai is the only guy who isn't a Johnny)
I heard there was a cycle of Johnny groups going on, like one person from Arashi (Jun), then NEWS (Yamapi), Kat-tun (Jin), then back to Arashi (Sho)... and what's this I hear about Ikuta Toma? >_> He's like the last person I expect to be posing for something like this... he's cutesy and adorable, but I don't view him as sexy.
Posted: Feb 2nd, '11, 15:59
by Keiko1981
Zazaza29 wrote:Sorry for reviving a dead thread, but I'm just curious -- anyone knows the full list of guys who have posed naked/semi-naked in An An?
The only ones I know of are:
- Takuya Kimura
- Okada Junichi
- Matsumoto Jun
- Yamapi
- Osamu Mukai
- Akanishi Jin
- Sakurai Sho
Anyone else?
(Seems like Mukai is the only guy who isn't a Johnny)
I heard there was a cycle of Johnny groups going on, like one person from Arashi (Jun), then NEWS (Yamapi), Kat-tun (Jin), then back to Arashi (Sho)... and what's this I hear about Ikuta Toma? >_> He's like the last person I expect to be posing for something like this... he's cutesy and adorable, but I don't view him as sexy.
Almost sure the musician GACKT has appeared in it.
Posted: Feb 2nd, '11, 19:29
by Reikaa
For those who are curious about photos and who did it, there are some here:
http://scanky-chops.livejournal.com/371614.html
Posted: Feb 2nd, '11, 19:56
by Zazaza29
^ Thanks for the link! Wow... Ikuta Toma actually looks... hot 0_0 Am pleasantly surprised...
Posted: Feb 12th, '11, 09:13
by sp4078
It's a treat, girls and boys.
The only thing I dislike seeing is the skinny b!tch models getting action with those pretty boys. The photoshoots without the women are much more appreciated without distraction (at least for me).
And only few of them can actually pull off the naked-shoot without looking awkward and wanna be somewhere else.