Hong Gil Dong (KBS2, 2008)
Hong Gil Dong (KBS2, 2008)
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@Details :
Title: 홍길동 / Hong Gil Dong
Episodes: 24
Broadcast network: KBS2
Broadcast period: 2008-Jan-2 to 2008
Air time: Wed-Thu 21:55 (9:55 Korean time)
Script Writers : Hong Jeong Eun, Hong Mi Ran (My Girl, Fantasy Couple, Delightful Girl Chunhyang)
@Cast :
Kang Ji Hwan as Hong Gil Dong
Sung Yu Ri as Heo Lee Nok
Jang Geun Suk as Lee Chang Hwui
Park Sang Wook as Shim Soo Geun
@Hong Gil-Dong Synopsis:
Hong Gil Dong is the son of a minister. Gil Dong practiced Taoist magic at a young age. His family feared his powers so they planned to have him assassinated. But Gil Dong escaped and decided to become a bandit leader. Gil Dong robbed from the corrupt officials and gave the money to the poor citizens. This drama takes place during the Joseon period.
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Yeah, there's a recent "Sung Yu Ri vs. YEH" thread over at Popseoul regarding Sung Yu Ri taking on the "girl pretending to be a boy" thing. (In the Hong Dil Gong novel, her female character dressed as a boy . . . kinda like Mulan?)
I actually feel bad for Yu Ri because her recent shows haven't done well, and she possibly gets more criticism for her acting than any current star. Now, you've invited comparisons to YEH and her "she's a real actress now" performance in Coffee Prince, and well you've reopened Finkl vs. Baby Vox.
Sigh. And I like Sung Yuri's shows too.
Then again, she seems to get paired against every rising male actor. KJH was just spot-on delightful in IMO KBS's best show of the year Capital Scandal.
I actually feel bad for Yu Ri because her recent shows haven't done well, and she possibly gets more criticism for her acting than any current star. Now, you've invited comparisons to YEH and her "she's a real actress now" performance in Coffee Prince, and well you've reopened Finkl vs. Baby Vox.
Sigh. And I like Sung Yuri's shows too.
Then again, she seems to get paired against every rising male actor. KJH was just spot-on delightful in IMO KBS's best show of the year Capital Scandal.
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I'm not sure how much this will reflect the Hong Sister trademark style. After all, this is an adaptation of a classic Korean story.
I liked her in Snow Queen and especially One Fine Day. Her face still isn't very expressive, and I guess some people find her speaking voice a little grating. But I don't know -- her characters seem appealing in the way Song Seung-heon characters are. They're inherently not that interesting (Snow Queen being exception <-- I thought she was much better than what the critics said) but they also work comfortably with their partners.
The problem here is that this role involves her really playing a tomboy, proactive role. Again, kinda like Mulan. She has to stand out for the romance part to work.
After much hard work, she's established herself as the finest actress from FinKl!(does she act better now?)
I liked her in Snow Queen and especially One Fine Day. Her face still isn't very expressive, and I guess some people find her speaking voice a little grating. But I don't know -- her characters seem appealing in the way Song Seung-heon characters are. They're inherently not that interesting (Snow Queen being exception <-- I thought she was much better than what the critics said) but they also work comfortably with their partners.
The problem here is that this role involves her really playing a tomboy, proactive role. Again, kinda like Mulan. She has to stand out for the romance part to work.
That will be a big challenge for her .. to portray in this character which is not easy at all.. but I find her acting was fine in SQ with HB..belleza wrote: The problem here is that this role involves her really playing a tomboy, proactive role. Again, kinda like Mulan. She has to stand out for the romance part to work.
A lot of people HATED Sung Yu Ri as Bora, but I think that had more to do with Bora than Yu Ri. You had a bratty, even vicious, female character who was difficult to sympathize with (not that unlike Inoue Mao's character in First Kiss.) Of course, I thought that was Snow Queen's charm, the fact that the lead female was bad, bad, bad, and it helped sell Hyun Bin's character as a tortured saint. Above all, though it might have alienated some fans, it enabled Yu Ri to kinda play outside of her "innocent ingenue."but I find her acting was fine in SQ with HB.
Her playing a tomboy is just bad timing though, given that it's going to follow up pretty quickly after Coffee Prince. CP has validated YEH as an actress and a true top draw, all this in less than two years of proper acting. Yu Ri has played leads since 2002, and she still is seen as a "singer-turned-actress."
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I can't believe i didn't click on this thread earlier. I never bother looking at threads for period dramas. But the HONG SISTERS wrote this?!?!? There is no way I am not watching this, although I try to avoid watching historical dramas.
I've heard tons of people say that Sung Yuri sucks at acting. Apparently she's the worst singer-turned-actor/actress in Korea. Hmm. But she's pretty. So hopefully it won't be too bad.
Since this is written by the Hong sisters, does that mean it'll be a comedy? I love their writing style, and they make the funniest dramas (i.e. My Girl, DGCH, Fantasy Couple). But seeing as how Hong Gil Dong is historical, I doubt they'll put in humor, will they?
I've heard tons of people say that Sung Yuri sucks at acting. Apparently she's the worst singer-turned-actor/actress in Korea. Hmm. But she's pretty. So hopefully it won't be too bad.
Since this is written by the Hong sisters, does that mean it'll be a comedy? I love their writing style, and they make the funniest dramas (i.e. My Girl, DGCH, Fantasy Couple). But seeing as how Hong Gil Dong is historical, I doubt they'll put in humor, will they?
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For yuri's sake I have to get myself registered to post this...haha!
I think Yuri isn't a lousy actress...she may not have very outstanding performance for her last few dramas...but IMO....she was not that bad la!! My sister and I love "One Fine Day" thou she may be a little stiff in some parts, but overall her performance in this drama is still good. And in "Snow Queen" I can see lots of improvement and I believed she put a lot of hard work in it, she played the role "Bo Ra" very well.... I really like her since I watched "Snow Queen" and am really desperately waiting for her new drama "Hong Gil Dong".
As for her comparison with YEH....well...both of them do have similarity in their career path...therefore comparison is unavoidable. Sometimes getting a good role, a good script and good working partners all these plays a part, we have to pray hard that she gets good roles in near future. I hope Yuri takes criticism on a positive side and make effort to outshine others and in the end challenge herself.
Good luck Yuri!
I think Yuri isn't a lousy actress...she may not have very outstanding performance for her last few dramas...but IMO....she was not that bad la!! My sister and I love "One Fine Day" thou she may be a little stiff in some parts, but overall her performance in this drama is still good. And in "Snow Queen" I can see lots of improvement and I believed she put a lot of hard work in it, she played the role "Bo Ra" very well.... I really like her since I watched "Snow Queen" and am really desperately waiting for her new drama "Hong Gil Dong".
As for her comparison with YEH....well...both of them do have similarity in their career path...therefore comparison is unavoidable. Sometimes getting a good role, a good script and good working partners all these plays a part, we have to pray hard that she gets good roles in near future. I hope Yuri takes criticism on a positive side and make effort to outshine others and in the end challenge herself.
Good luck Yuri!
Apparently, there was some casting controversy with Hong Gil Dong. Originally Joo Ji Hoon was going to be cast in Hong Gil Dong, but either he pulled out or his agency Olive Nine (yay!!!) pulled out right before the production was supposed to start. This is the 2nd time a JJH/SY casting fell through, and this is the 2nd casting issue this year related to O9. Some people say JJH wanted A-list money (a la his partner YEH); other people say it's Olive Nine's fault.
To me, she's kinda like the female Song Seung Hun or Yamapi; .She's kinda like a puppy, a really lovable puppy. She barks; she whimpers; she looks really cute with a choker. In One Fine Day, she just wants to find a home. In Snow Queen, she snarls. And so on.
Truth is, I love both OFD and Snow Queen, and I liked her pairing with Gong Yoo more than YEH's in Coffee Prince. I like Coffee Prince a lot, but in terms of emotional connection, it's really Gong Yoo who sells the love. Whereas in One Fine Day, they just seemed oddly on the same page, in terms of how they look at each other and how they talked to each other. It just seemed to work.Yeah she really isn't as bad as some people claim, but then, she isn't any good either. There's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm sure she will improve....eventually ^^
To me, she's kinda like the female Song Seung Hun or Yamapi; .She's kinda like a puppy, a really lovable puppy. She barks; she whimpers; she looks really cute with a choker. In One Fine Day, she just wants to find a home. In Snow Queen, she snarls. And so on.
The thing with Sung Yuri is that she's mostly avoided doing rom-com dramas, whereas YEH hasn't yet ventured outside of that yet. So, on one hand, you respect SY for her choices, but then you also accept that, well, she's kinda out of her depths in these roles. I'm not sure her playing a tomboy will work, but she's got a really dynamic performer -- Kang Ji Hwan -- playing opposite her. Be strong Yuri!As for her comparison with YEH....well...both of them do have similarity in their career path...therefore comparison is unavoidable. Sometimes getting a good role, a good script and good working partners all these plays a part, we have to pray hard that she gets good roles in near future.
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I heard about that too. In fact, here's an "article" about it:belleza wrote:Apparently, there was some casting controversy with Hong Gil Dong. Originally Joo Ji Hoon was going to be cast in Hong Gil Dong, but either he pulled out or his agency Olive Nine (yay!!!) pulled out right before the production was supposed to start. This is the 2nd time a JJH/SY casting fell through, and this is the 2nd casting issue this year related to O9. Some people say JJH wanted A-list money (a la his partner YEH); other people say it's Olive Nine's fault.
http://popseoul.com/2007/08/23/joo-ji-h ... #more-4922
yea i heard about the casting issue with Hong Gil Dong and wasn't it suppose to have Jo Hyun Jae too? they didn't pick the lead actress yet and all of a sudden both dropped the project and eventually Kang Ji Hwan is casted..which I don't mind I really like Kang Ji Hwan and is looking forward to watching this drama
Yeah, that's where I read about the JJH business. As a side note, I like popseoul a lot, but some of the writing lately has been bad. (Also, erm, their fashion observations are not as spot on as it was in spring! ) I'm not really a JJH fan, but to speculate that JJH is in a salary war with his ex-costar Eun Hye just sounds really irresponsible considering that Eun Hye and other stars have also fought with the Olive Nine agency.I heard about that too. In fact, here's an "article" about it:
http://popseoul.com/2007/08/23/joo-ji-h ... #more-4922
Ahh, well, the in joke there is that Sung Yuri and SSH used to date. Quite literally the mirror image of each other. ;)I don't quite see how Sung Yuri is kinda like the female Song Seung Hun? Surely that's a bit of an insult to SSH?
SSH's acting is . . . well he's really pretty. And when I mean pretty, sure Lee Jung Ki is pretty, but SSH is a beautiful, beautiful man. Autumn Tale has like three beautiful people and one "OMG I can't believe THAT was Miss Korea!!" SSH isn't well regarded as an actor -- his range is pretty limited; when he plays leads, he tends to disappear. Part of it is casting; he's much better playing aggressive alpha male characters, just as Sung Yuri's acting was much better when she played Bo Ra. And it needs to be said -- he has one or two facial expressions, but they are facial expressions chiselled by a god. So that's okay -- I like SSH a lot, and I can't wait for his comeback project.
Given the short, fickle life of K-pop, many singers transition into acting, especially into romantic comedy roles. But, almost without exception, they have to work against the preception of not being a real actor/actress, driven by antis carried over from their pop star days. A lot of it is about winning over the female viewing audience, which is done through rom-coms. Eun Hye has a strong, loyal female following; Sung Yuri doesn't.
Wait a minute....Yu-mi played by Han Na Na was Miss Korea? LOL! What were they thinking? Give me Honey Lee any day! Thanks for that bit of very interesting trivia, I was never aware of it before. Well actually, even if someone told me, I would've said they're lying. But Wiki must be right...it always is ;)
And erm.....the clues regarding you-know-what that you scattered in your previous post was a bit too subtle. Stop talking in riddles. I need something that S-P-E-L-L-S I-T O-U-T.
Otherwise, thank you for your wonderful insight on K-dramas. I've enjoyed reading many of your posts. Hey, we might have another 'Mr. X' on our hands. Or is that 'Miss. X'?
And erm.....the clues regarding you-know-what that you scattered in your previous post was a bit too subtle. Stop talking in riddles. I need something that S-P-E-L-L-S I-T O-U-T.
Otherwise, thank you for your wonderful insight on K-dramas. I've enjoyed reading many of your posts. Hey, we might have another 'Mr. X' on our hands. Or is that 'Miss. X'?
Recent dramabeans entry on Hong Gil Don
http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/11/sneak ... -gil-dong/
Love the photos of Kang Ji Hwan and Sung Yu Ri. I'm all about fusion sageuks, but I think this is the first emo K-drama ever!! Love the goffff bangs KJH!!!
As a side note, I totally applaud KBS's recent run of fusion dramas (and Capital Scandal IS good!), but dude one of them HAS to earn >10 ratings. Hopefully this is the one to break their year long cold streak.
http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/11/sneak ... -gil-dong/
Love the photos of Kang Ji Hwan and Sung Yu Ri. I'm all about fusion sageuks, but I think this is the first emo K-drama ever!! Love the goffff bangs KJH!!!
As a side note, I totally applaud KBS's recent run of fusion dramas (and Capital Scandal IS good!), but dude one of them HAS to earn >10 ratings. Hopefully this is the one to break their year long cold streak.
You know -- I have to confess, I've never watch a Hong Sisters rom-com before. Should I start on My Girl or Fantasy Couple?
His most popular role is opposite Han Hye-Jin (of ju-MONG! fame) in Be Strong Geum Soon. I liked Capital Scandal, but I didn't like some of the casting; to me, Han Hye-Jin would have been a perfect choice for Han Ji Min's character. CS doens't have so much fire and ice as it has fire and "frown."
Most Korean actors emphasize a naturalistic (i.e. learn from doing soaps) approach to acting, emphasizing their personality. But KJH actually has real training, and it shows in his precise comic timing and the utter ease he is at switching between broad screwball to charged, fiery performances. KH plays broad, but he doesn't fuzzy the details. And he's one of the few actors (Jang Hyuk is another) in that age group who acts with a real temper, but in a way that conveys genuine sincerity rather than aggression.
He's probably my favorite male lead performance this year, just because it's so rare to see "big" acting in Korean non-sageuks. He is PERFECT for this kind of drama.
The real catch-22 is Sung Yu Ri, but I LOVE her hair! Give her some eyeliner and put on some New Order, and you have the next Damo. ;) I'm watching Thousand Years of Love, and besides being distracted by her "old"(?) nose (she had work done, but I forgot what), I could see her play her role in this same way. Actually just the side of Sung Yu Ri taking out baddies like Jumong is worth watching too.
You know, it turns out that, before moving to TV, KJH was a popular musical theatre actor. He apparently switched because, well, that's where the money is.I really like Kang Ji Hwan acting in capital scandal & I really expect a lot from him in this drama..
His most popular role is opposite Han Hye-Jin (of ju-MONG! fame) in Be Strong Geum Soon. I liked Capital Scandal, but I didn't like some of the casting; to me, Han Hye-Jin would have been a perfect choice for Han Ji Min's character. CS doens't have so much fire and ice as it has fire and "frown."
Most Korean actors emphasize a naturalistic (i.e. learn from doing soaps) approach to acting, emphasizing their personality. But KJH actually has real training, and it shows in his precise comic timing and the utter ease he is at switching between broad screwball to charged, fiery performances. KH plays broad, but he doesn't fuzzy the details. And he's one of the few actors (Jang Hyuk is another) in that age group who acts with a real temper, but in a way that conveys genuine sincerity rather than aggression.
He's probably my favorite male lead performance this year, just because it's so rare to see "big" acting in Korean non-sageuks. He is PERFECT for this kind of drama.
The real catch-22 is Sung Yu Ri, but I LOVE her hair! Give her some eyeliner and put on some New Order, and you have the next Damo. ;) I'm watching Thousand Years of Love, and besides being distracted by her "old"(?) nose (she had work done, but I forgot what), I could see her play her role in this same way. Actually just the side of Sung Yu Ri taking out baddies like Jumong is worth watching too.
Do it in chronological order IMO. Start with DGCH No, if you can only watch one, then definitely go for My Girl.belleza wrote:You know -- I have to confess, I've never watch a Hong Sisters rom-com before. Should I start on My Girl or Fantasy Couple?
The real catch-22 is Sung Yu Ri, but I LOVE her hair! Give her some eyeliner and put on some New Order, and you have the next Damo. ;) I'm watching Thousand Years of Love, and besides being distracted by her "old"(?) nose (she had work done, but I forgot what), I could see her play her role in this same way. Actually just the side of Sung Yu Ri taking out baddies like Jumong is worth watching too.
She reminds me a bit of Tifa Lockheart from FFVII in that pic, and yeah, her hair looks great. I didn't know she had some work done though, but more importantly, I can't believe you're watching 1000 Years of Crap
The show's amazing! She kills like 20 people at once (with nary a stain on her hangbok!), but she rolls up like a scared little puppy when she discovers the horror of TV. Ahhhhhhhh It's a pretty good "Taiwanese idol drama." The 12 year old in me squeals with delight!She reminds me a bit of Tifa Lockheart from FFVII in that pic, and yeah, her hair looks great. I didn't know she had some work done though, but more importantly, I can't believe you're watching 1000 Years of Crap
Yeah, Sung Yu Ri's had a bit of work done on her post-debut, but I forgot whether it was the jawline or the nose. And her eyes in Thousand made me do a double-take, but I'd imagine those were "hers" at least prior to Fin-Kl. I mean, all real minor though, nothing like Fany's "Odelay vato!!" transformation. Wow. Korean surgeons are awesome.
Sold.belleza wrote:The show's amazing! She kills like 20 people at once (with nary a stain on her hangbok!), but she rolls up like a scared little puppy when she discovers the horror of TV. Ahhhhhhhh It's a pretty good "Taiwanese idol drama." The 12 year old in me squeals with delight!She reminds me a bit of Tifa Lockheart from FFVII in that pic, and yeah, her hair looks great. I didn't know she had some work done though, but more importantly, I can't believe you're watching 1000 Years of Crap
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I'm watching next. I just hope it's not as long and draggy as the title suggests
See, my hunch is that if you survive the first two episodes of Thousand Year of Love (which is godawful -- it's like a homage to 80s wuxia made by broke college film grads for Youtube!!), you might actually like this show.
I'm almost halfway through -- this show isn't actually good, but the humor is genuinely . . . wrong. Essentially a typical scene goes like this . . .
Stranger 1: This **** is crazy!
Stranger 2: This **** is an idiot!
Sung Yuri: *pouts* *cries a little*
Stranger 1: Yeah, but she's really adorable.
Stranger 2: **** *is* cute
Sung Yuri: *brightens up*
Stranger 1/2: Ahhhhhhh
This is played over and over again, and yeah the misogyny is definitely there. (There's one scene where our hapless princess is a go-go dancer . . .) Seriously, this is maybe the first Korean romance show I've seen that was marketed for girls, but written for men. I mean, I should be really offended with this show, but it's really funny when you watch it this way.
I'm almost halfway through -- this show isn't actually good, but the humor is genuinely . . . wrong. Essentially a typical scene goes like this . . .
Stranger 1: This **** is crazy!
Stranger 2: This **** is an idiot!
Sung Yuri: *pouts* *cries a little*
Stranger 1: Yeah, but she's really adorable.
Stranger 2: **** *is* cute
Sung Yuri: *brightens up*
Stranger 1/2: Ahhhhhhh
This is played over and over again, and yeah the misogyny is definitely there. (There's one scene where our hapless princess is a go-go dancer . . .) Seriously, this is maybe the first Korean romance show I've seen that was marketed for girls, but written for men. I mean, I should be really offended with this show, but it's really funny when you watch it this way.
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KBS Hong Gil Dong Preview
KBS Making of Hong Gil Dong
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KBS Hong Gil Dong Preview
KBS Making of Hong Gil Dong
Hong Gil Dong Trailer
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Honestly, I expect it to be about as campy as a early Jet Li flick. Lots of closeups and mugging to the camera. A lot of "you killed everyone in my village now you must die!" acting too. Should be fun!advert looks great. reminds me a little of Fong Sai Yuk as Jet Li
This kinda reminds me of 1000 Years of Love actually. And's character looks like Sung Yuri of Sujini (of The Legend) if Sujini was played by Eun Hye. This is going to be a hit.
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I was thinking Robin Hood, just because storyline is VERY SIMILAR to it.belleza wrote:Yeah, there's a recent "Sung Yu Ri vs. YEH" thread over at Popseoul regarding Sung Yu Ri taking on the "girl pretending to be a boy" thing. (In the Hong Dil Gong novel, her female character dressed as a boy . . . kinda like Mulan?)
I'm not sure how much they'll follow in story of Epic, or History-wise. (After all, he did exist.) I also wonder how well this will turn out to be...
WITHS2 should sub this but cuz they are delay all there subs now if u check the subtitle forum u'll find that a vitenamese group release sub for Ep1 as thier first work with releasing Eng sub..& the RAW'll find it either in WITHS2 CB or creidesca3 anyone u want..ukno wrote:Any sub group taking this project? ..still haven't found any raw in torrent.
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WITHS2 now released Ep1 sub..
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First take at dramabeans seems pretty positive. I haven't dramas from the Hong Sisters, but it looks like there's just enough of their trademark style there, plus all the cheeky fusion stuff. (Think the swing dance in Capital Scandal!)
A 15 Rating (2nd epi a leeeetle bit lower) looks okay. Not great, but not a bad starting point. Slightly higher than Dal Ja's Spring (KBS's last trendy hit) at this time last year.
I mean, it can't be really understated. KBS really, really needs HGD to do well.
A 15 Rating (2nd epi a leeeetle bit lower) looks okay. Not great, but not a bad starting point. Slightly higher than Dal Ja's Spring (KBS's last trendy hit) at this time last year.
I mean, it can't be really understated. KBS really, really needs HGD to do well.
Well Javabeans is a huge fan of the Hong sisters, so her positive recap of episode 1 might be slightly biased. If you take a gander at the HGD soompi thread, you'll notice a lot of negative comments such as "weird", "bad camera angles", "inappropriate techno music" etc. I know it's a fusion drama, but this reminds me a bit of the movie Duelist, which I absolutely hated.
But I'm probably still gonna watch it anyway since Sung Yuri looks great in these caps!
credit to ilsses
But I'm probably still gonna watch it anyway since Sung Yuri looks great in these caps!
credit to ilsses
I love her blog, partially because our tastes don't sync. My hunch is that she would like the non-idol J-dramas a lot if she gives it a real shot. Fo example, Dal Ja's Spring was a remake of Anego, which is a Ryoko Shinohara drama. Ryoko is the Queen of the Office Lady J-drama. And so on . . .Well Javabeans is a huge fan of the Hong sisters
But I think you have to take a fusion drama for what they are. It's the same thing with Capital Scandal, which has lots of cheeky bits, broad stage-y characters, and visual gags. Or Damo, which like Duelist, has a mix of Eurocheese dance, a bunch of inappropriate filmic effects, and wuxia-style "ground shots." I'm going into Hong Gil Dong expecting a mix of Damo production technique and "Princess Pearl" cheekiness.If you take a gander at the HGD soompi thread, you'll notice a lot of negative comments such as "weird", "bad camera angles", "inappropriate techno music" etc. I know it's a fusion drama, but this reminds me a bit of the movie Duelist, which I absolutely hated.
Personally, the above is why I don't love fusion dramas (I would have enjoyed Capital Scandal more if the treatment was straight), but I still accept them on their terms. Also they tend to dial down a bit as the show progresses (and the budget expectations are more reasonable.)
I think the only fusion drama I loved was Jewel in the Palace . . . and yes, I consider it a fusion sageuk. The (macro) storyline is sageuk; but the (micro) narrative is like a cooking (and then a hospital) J-drama. Long set of changes. Geek love of details. Fighting spirit. The tough but approving sempai. Etc.
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Really? WITHS2 is subbing again? I'm so excited to see this; I think I may even drop the 3(?) dramas I'm currently watching and devour Hong Gil Dong.
But what's with the negative comments? I, too, am a huge fan of the Hong sisters (maybe that's why I like javabeans so much?) so hopefully this one doesn't disappoint.
But what's with the negative comments? I, too, am a huge fan of the Hong sisters (maybe that's why I like javabeans so much?) so hopefully this one doesn't disappoint.
Watched first 10 minutes of this . . . . I had to do a double-take with KJH because he looked eerily like Jo Ji Hoon with the Davey Havok haircut. Wow. Emo JJH would have been hella hot! Who knew? I think this is Sung Yuri's first bust-a-move since FinKl. And I think she forgot how to bust a move. Maybe a Wonder Girl will join the cast . . . I can see the comparisons to Sujini, esp. since Lee Ji-ah really loves "teh goff" (and I LOVE her chest-thumps, feeling YOU E!))
The fusion bits were nicely done. It reminded me a little bit of Damo,, though I think the music could have been better. The way to go would be to hire the people who did music for Soulmate -- if you got both leads all in emo, you got to throw in some New Wave dance music here. Like have them kiling people while playing Boys Don't Cry or something.
The fusion bits were nicely done. It reminded me a little bit of Damo,, though I think the music could have been better. The way to go would be to hire the people who did music for Soulmate -- if you got both leads all in emo, you got to throw in some New Wave dance music here. Like have them kiling people while playing Boys Don't Cry or something.
That goes without saying -- HGD is the first hyped K-drama of 2008. Popular cast (and controversial casting!), Hong Sisters, and just all-out good, wacky fun. They are relaxing their embargo to honour the anticipation for it.Really? WITHS2 is subbing again?
I think this is their first real exposure to fusion dramas (though Goong does qualify too.) The "film grammar" of fusion sageuks are especially off the map -- you take the stodgiest format and then make it as "hip" as possible, even if it is not "in good taste" -- and the humor can kinda get into Monty Python and the Holy Grail territory.But what's with the negative comments?
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I'm an avid reader of dramabeans and her tastes pretty much match mine. She has really good points
Maybe that's why I really really like Hong Gil Dong, despite being weirded out by some too over-the-top comedy/gags. I expected some more along the lines of witty lines, instead of gags. I have REALLY high hopes for this. Don't let me down!!! Sung Yu Ri reminds me of the girl from My Girl a lot. Not in character (much), as she's more boyish here, but in acting. Some of the faces Sung Yu Ri makes are eerily the same as Lee Dae Ha from My Girl. I don't have problems with it, just that she should put more "her" in it....
^_^ I don't expect many people to like this straight off the bat. It's a new fusion thing, and it takes it adjusting. Cheekiness and this type of Korean in a sageuks is hard to understand, and the angles wouldn't be so bad if it's action but as a sageuks....Once again, adjusting. It's rather more the style that people don't like, I think. (Though I do think sometimes the Hong sisters take it too far, like the dancing sequences...) I mean, that's why some prefer romantic comedies and other melodramas like Winter Sonata. Just my opinion.
Maybe that's why I really really like Hong Gil Dong, despite being weirded out by some too over-the-top comedy/gags. I expected some more along the lines of witty lines, instead of gags. I have REALLY high hopes for this. Don't let me down!!! Sung Yu Ri reminds me of the girl from My Girl a lot. Not in character (much), as she's more boyish here, but in acting. Some of the faces Sung Yu Ri makes are eerily the same as Lee Dae Ha from My Girl. I don't have problems with it, just that she should put more "her" in it....
^_^ I don't expect many people to like this straight off the bat. It's a new fusion thing, and it takes it adjusting. Cheekiness and this type of Korean in a sageuks is hard to understand, and the angles wouldn't be so bad if it's action but as a sageuks....Once again, adjusting. It's rather more the style that people don't like, I think. (Though I do think sometimes the Hong sisters take it too far, like the dancing sequences...) I mean, that's why some prefer romantic comedies and other melodramas like Winter Sonata. Just my opinion.
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Dramabeans is an exceptionally well written blog with an immaculate layout and although I don't necessarily share the same tastes as her, I can't help but admire the work she's put in to that site. It's a pity only about 5% of her audience are male though, I guess guys just don't normally read that kinda stuff
As for HGD, I'm still interested in it because it's different, but I sure do hope there isn't too much slapstick comedy and especially please no Benny Hill style 'running gags'!
As for HGD, I'm still interested in it because it's different, but I sure do hope there isn't too much slapstick comedy and especially please no Benny Hill style 'running gags'!
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So far this is looking like a fun series. It gets a bit silly at times but overall it's a real change from the other historical Kdramas I've seen. I generally like more serious and less silly series but this is lookin good at this early stage.
The techno music and dancing, and the brothel dance show complete with light and special effects was bizzare to say the least!
The techno music and dancing, and the brothel dance show complete with light and special effects was bizzare to say the least!
Yeah, I think I'm in the minority in that I have HGD 3rd on my to-watch priority list, behind New Heart and Bad/Cruel/Mistaken/ScrewedUp/Wretched Love. (not sure about Robbers. I've never seen a Lee Dae Hee drama before, and I'm not sure I want to start with this . . . ) I was really looking forward to Sung Yuri with Jo Ji Hoon, which I thought could be romantic chemistry kismet. His deadpan stare; her frowning blankness. That's a match made in terminal disease heaven! I would have loved to see them in Spring Waltz.As for HGD, I'm still interested in it because it's different, but I sure do hope there isn't too much slapstick comedy and especially please no Benny Hill style 'running gags'!
A lot of the recent KBS shows have really gone into the cheeky stuff, and fusion sageuks almost guarantee a healthy bit of it. Verbal tit-for-tat doesn't translate as well when the show takes place before soap was popular. But that is the pro-con with fusion sageuks; I think people either take to it or not. Although Damo is regularly cited as a seminal work, I think it also turned off a lot of people too. The mix of wuxia and Eurocheese just didn't sit.
Anyway, just recently watched an entertainment program (which I think Han Ji Min used to host) with a small HGD blurb. You can just tell there's a GREAT vibe between the cast. Kwang Ji Hwan was saying how it was a lot fun working with people around the same age, and then SY, surprised retorted back "what?!?" (KJH is 30; SY is 26.) Then Jang Geun Suk (20) started saying he's like a uncle to them (LOL) SY mentioned that a lot of media had misrepresented her character as a "girl dressing up as boy" (she's right -- she's tomboyish and scrappy, but not androgynous like Sujini or Eun Chan) and that she didn't wear makeup for the role, and then JGS retorted "that's because you are a guy." LOL KJH pointed out that he was a fan of the Girls Generation and then started dancing. (LOLx4) Finally, he gave a congratulations and shout-out to Capital Scandal co-star Han Ji Min and said she was prettier (sexier?) in a hanbok than in her short dress at the KBS Awards (ooooh diss!)
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It's a definite take-it-or-leave-it type of drama. If you like it, you like it. Though I have the feeling the drama will amp up a bit, especially with ep 3 preview (unfortunately, I don't know what the heck ep 3 is about not being able to understand Korean so can only go by the preview) so people that don't like the over-the-top silliness should stick around. But it's DEFINITELY growing on me, and rather quickly too....
@Belleza-- That is sooo funny. I've never quite been fond of Han Ji Min, but it's all in good jest anyway....JGS, that guy has my heart! He's only 20? I thought he was 21? Oh well, that's even better for me. ^^ KJH is really quite hot, but he's in his thirties...Now, JGS has a huge draw with his boyish pretty face..I'm hanging on every time he comes to the screen. And from the excerpt you said, it seems he also has a sweet, not that serious personality. It just keeps getting better and better!
@Belleza-- That is sooo funny. I've never quite been fond of Han Ji Min, but it's all in good jest anyway....JGS, that guy has my heart! He's only 20? I thought he was 21? Oh well, that's even better for me. ^^ KJH is really quite hot, but he's in his thirties...Now, JGS has a huge draw with his boyish pretty face..I'm hanging on every time he comes to the screen. And from the excerpt you said, it seems he also has a sweet, not that serious personality. It just keeps getting better and better!
That entertainment program sounds very .... entertaining, belleza. How do you get access to all these interesting programs? Here in Australia we get SFA regarding Korean entertainment.
Anyway, I read from Dramabeans that there's a bit of toilet humor in eps 3. Keeps getting better and better doesn't it? Not!
Anyway, I read from Dramabeans that there's a bit of toilet humor in eps 3. Keeps getting better and better doesn't it? Not!
[QUOTE That is sooo funny. I've never quite been fond of Han Ji Min, but it's all in good jest anyway...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Han Ji Min is part of the "Actress of Three Han" (Han Ji Hye, Han Ji Min, Han Hye Jin), who along with the JJH Trinity (Jung Ji Hoon, Joo Ji Hoon, Jun Ji Hyun) and the Three Kims (Kim Min Jung, Kim Min Joon, Kim Min Jong.) I love them all, and I have no idea who is who!
On Tuesdays, KBS runs a Entertainment Tonight-style show (plus subtitles) called "Entertainment Relay", which helps promote KBS dramas and movies as well as cover general entertainment news. I think it's about 2 weeks behind the domestic run, because they're still doing an year-in-review. For example, this week . . . (spoilered for brevity)
Yeah, Han Ji Min is part of the "Actress of Three Han" (Han Ji Hye, Han Ji Min, Han Hye Jin), who along with the JJH Trinity (Jung Ji Hoon, Joo Ji Hoon, Jun Ji Hyun) and the Three Kims (Kim Min Jung, Kim Min Joon, Kim Min Jong.) I love them all, and I have no idea who is who!
I'm really looking forward to his followup performance after Hwang Jini. But just briefly looking at Dramabeans, it seems a few people are noting that his performance so far doesn't seem that good. Like, he's self conscious about his age in this role. KJH is, of course, being excellent as ever, and apparently Sung Yu Ri is pretty good too. Ratings seem to be building; hopefully the show breaks 20 by the halfway point.JGS, that guy has my heart! He's only 20? I thought he was 21?
Yeah, in Southern California, there's two Asian stations which respectively program KBS and MBC World during weekday (and most of weeknight) primetime. So, for example, 7-11pm every night is KBS World/LA, and you get all the evening sitcoms, daily dramas, trendies, and comedy/variety shows, with subtitles (except for the variety shows) and about a month behind the domestic schedule.Here in Australia we get SFA regarding Korean entertainment.
On Tuesdays, KBS runs a Entertainment Tonight-style show (plus subtitles) called "Entertainment Relay", which helps promote KBS dramas and movies as well as cover general entertainment news. I think it's about 2 weeks behind the domestic run, because they're still doing an year-in-review. For example, this week . . . (spoilered for brevity)
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i personaly find this drama quite refreshing from all those dramatic love story dramas... i think this drama is really intersiting and i love the fact that its different from all the current k-dramas that are currently airing >O<
any one seem episode 6 yet? i was wondering what..
sorry for my rambling
any one seem episode 6 yet? i was wondering what..
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