not sure why E-chan sees commenting about negative aspect of dramas sometimes as "whining" (as in one thread in particular where we have been warnedEthlenn wrote:Not when nervous but when the leg or arm goes numb. It's a popular belief that it relieves the muscles.
The way I see it, there will be less and less people in particular dramas threads. And my pessimistic realism says that here will be more of whining again and "oh-my-god-so-cliche" miaouling than enumerating good things in Kdramas, because they - hey! - they exist as well.
And funny thing, when I started the thread ok Korean music here, I also called it "The Good, The Bad and The Weird"...
). but of course, negative points are always mentioned first before positive ones because positive ones are given. so we will have more negative than positive. 
don't worry dear. I won't leave you alone (well, apart from whatever to do with PSHEthlenn wrote:It's easier to complain than to write a praising post.
Even if I'm left alone, I will not visit soompi. I can't access it, so it makes easier for me, hehe.
). I was just referring to how our drama threads having less posts and visits.Yep, it also can be said for those character who thinks " It's best for you if am not around so break up the relationship without any reason or the silliest reasons suffer alone and in pain but keep saying to themselves" it's OK. I am doing it for her/his sake" as if the other person does not have a brain of their own to think about what is going on.Orion1986 wrote:One thing that annoys me is the "martyr" style of the poor female leads. Their mothers whine, their bosses whine and they just accept it all.
I can feel for a poor character who has spunk and some self-respect , but someone who lets things happen to them is worthy of their fate.
On the flipside, I love poor girls who don't take crap or at least don't act like it's their fault for taking crap and those do exist in kdrama as well.
Like Sun Ah's character in City Hall or No Eun Sol in Protect the Boss. Putting up with things that help you gain something is understandable.
don't forget the latest mobile phones. I am seriously thinking of getting mine from there. it seems they are as cheap as free sometimes.Another thing, which i think its ...odd. in almost all dramas, there are these poor characters, who can barely afford the rent and one bowl of rice. But almost all of them go drinking almost every day and then they take a cab. I don't know how much you have to spend for alcohol and a cab in Korea, but here i couldn't afford this and i'm by far better off, than these dramacharacters.
Alcohol and cabs are pretty much the cheapest things in Korea. Eating out, too. Korean phones are pretty cheap, but they're dirt cheap if you make at least a year contract with the operator. That's how you can get a brand spanking new phone with small monthly payments.Issy wrote:don't forget the latest mobile phones. I am seriously thinking of getting mine from there. it seems they are as cheap as free sometimes.Another thing, which i think its ...odd. in almost all dramas, there are these poor characters, who can barely afford the rent and one bowl of rice. But almost all of them go drinking almost every day and then they take a cab. I don't know how much you have to spend for alcohol and a cab in Korea, but here i couldn't afford this and i'm by far better off, than these dramacharacters.
Especially the one with the beating, in the first time I was W-T-F!!!Orion1986 wrote:Damn, I have been so planning to mention some of those on a cliche article. Ahaha. Yep. They are cliches, but it's interesting to know how many of them, if any, actually apply.
Like beating your 30-year-old son. Or the smoking. Smoking and drinking are both bad in large amounts, so it's weird they ban smoking from TV and not drinking so much.
I guess is a culture thing, like the one that they sleep in the floor, or most of times eating in the small -living room- table.Another thing is the lack of furniture. Most of the "poor" characters always sit on the floor. Sometimes, whole rooms are just empty with a little table in the middle.
Is it just done to show tradition or are sofas so rare there? I mean, relatively ok (financially) families sometimes have an alarming lack of couches in drama.
That's true. Same goes sometimes when picking up a phone and only saying ''Ah''.Another thing is the saying bye bye. When people get of the phone, they rarely seem to say bye bye or something of the sort. Seen this in western shows as well.
Is it normal? Am I being too polite for making sure the other person knows when the conversation is over and I am hanging up? Lol. Aaah, love these details.
Have you been taking notes at the same time watching those dramas? I don't know what Carpal tunnel is . .Orion1986 wrote:Damn, my carpal tunnel is acting up and I can't comment on all of those now. Ahaha. Yep. So many clichés. Not all annoy or anything, but it's still funny to spot em.
Also, too much and graphic throwing up. I know they do it to make a point, but it's gross. If you have no problem with other bodily functions, show sex too then. Ahaha.
And even if they have throwing up etc, the cleanliness is quite annoyingly present. They rarely look like crap after drinking or being sick and it's mostly just messed up hair.
Waking up with perfect make-up and hair breaks immersion. Which is why I loved that scene in God's Quiz where he wakes up looking like a mess after drinking heavily.
But fangirls watch these mostly. So, whatever they like or dislike has to be there.
OOoooohhhhh the kisses is a helluvah big them for me to start... I want to write soooo much, and as you can see, I already speak a lot !!!!!Silverman wrote:You missed to mention, that the kisses are...well...i don't know how to describe it, but i had a more passionate kiss with my first "real" gf at an age of 12.
One thing that cracks me up is, that the parents throw a fit, if their 25-30 year old daughter didn't spend the night at home. btw. does anybody know, if the no-sex-before-marriage-policy in korea really exists?
Aaaahahahhahahah!!! No, I am not taking notes. It's just that some things are tottaly different from my society, and they are immediatly capturing my attention.Issy wrote:@vasou
We have unleashed a monster
About furniture thing
I love this about Korean and Japanese dramas. Keeping up with tradition. I have seen it so many times. No matter how rich they get they still have rooms decorated like old time
Sitting and even sleeping ( which is proven to be very good thing for your back specially if you suffer from back problems) on the floor.
It might be strange in western countries specially if they see a rich family but it is of a norm if you come from Asia. It is one of our cultural traditions too but unfortunately is embrassing now because of so called modern living.
I know, what I'm about to write is annoying, but to say its an asian thing, is a little bit exaggerated. Asia describes not just Korea, China and Japan. These countries are just a little part of Asia (Eastasia to be exact). I know we in the west tend to say "asia" and just think of Eastasia, but its something i alwasy wanted to say^^.Issy wrote:@vasou
We have unleashed a monster
About furniture thing
I love this about Korean and Japanese dramas. Keeping up with tradition. I have seen it so many times. No matter how rich they get they still have rooms decorated like old time
Sitting and even sleeping ( which is proven to be very good thing for your back specially if you suffer from back problems) on the floor.
It might be strange in western countries specially if they see a rich family but it is of a norm if you come from Asia. It is one of our cultural traditions too but unfortunately is Dying out because people feel embarrassed nowdays due to so called modern living.
well, I was not referring to Japan. Korea and China only by the term Asia. I was talking about my own background (unless you don't consider Middleast a apart of Asia) and I did not mean that only those 3 countries are "assimilated by the western-furniture". I only said it is very admirable of such cultures to still keep their tradition when more or less the whole world are furnished in westernised way. the fact that they still sit and sleep on the floor was mentioned here as a negative point and referred to lack of furniture, My answer was that is not the case. it's just a way to keep their tradition even if they live in heart of a modern city like Seoul.Silverman wrote:I know, what I'm about to write is annoying, but to say its an asian thing, is a little bit exaggerated. Asia describes not just Korea, China and Japan. These countries are just a little part of Asia (Eastasia to be exact). I know we in the west tend to say "asia" and just think of Eastasia, but its something i alwasy wanted to say^^.
I was almost in all parts of asia, except for Southeastasia (Thailand, Vietnam a.s.o.), India, Korea and Japan. Almost all of them are more or less assimilated by the "western"-furniture ages ago. Well at least in the cities. In the country are some remote places, which are more traditional.
But you have to admit, that a lot of people over the world think of China and Japan, if you mention Asia.Issy wrote: well, I was not referring to Japan. Korea and China only by the term Asia. I was talking about my own background (unless you don't consider Middleast a apart of Asia) and I did not mean that only those 3 countries are "assimilated by the western-furniture". I only said it is very admirable of such cultures to still keep their tradition when more or less the whole world are furnished in westernised way. the fact that they still sit and sleep on the floor was mentioned here as a negative point and referred to lack of furniture, My answer was that is not the case. it's just a way to keep their tradition even if they live in heart of a modern city like Seoul.
and the term Asian means different in different countries. for your information the term Asian here in UK is refereed to people from India, Pakistan...and in no way reminds of Korean, Chinese or Japanese.
With thisIssy wrote: I did not mean that only those 3 countries are "assimilated by the western-furniture". I only said it is very admirable of such cultures to still keep their tradition when more or less the whole world are furnished in westernised way.
I just wanted to say, that in almost all asian countries i've traveled, the general furniture-style is westernized (ok there are a lot of details, like f.e. tapestry in some countries, which remain traditional). I did not mean to say, that you said, that only these 3 countries are "assimilated" (damn, i just wanted to say, that i had no opposition to what you wrote before).
I was almost in all parts of asia, except for Southeastasia (Thailand, Vietnam a.s.o.), India, Korea and Japan. Almost all of them are more or less assimilated by the "western"-furniture ages ago. Well at least in the cities. In the country are some remote places, which are more traditional.
I wasn't really made in a negative way, but was something I was curious about, since I am not used to it.Issy wrote:I did not mean you my dear Ori. I was referring to Vasou's point about why people still sleep on the floor?
I have seen it in dramas too. to be honest we do it alot too. I mean even though we have complete furnitures in our houses, back home you do also have a room that it has nice big think Persian carpet and mats around your sitting room to sit and even accepts guests. but unfortunately this nice sitting is getting less and less. and your legs gets numb sometimes if you are not used to it.
I do believe is more with older people and not younger generations. as seen in Kdramas of course. maybe we need to go and find out for ourselves.
vasou wrote:Seriously,its worst than hearing Bakoyanni talking english.
Oh man. Yep. No attempt at an accent whatsoever. For the non-greeks, click and listen. I can understand her though. so we were both making the same point? that's funny. point taken. True, but I couldn't find easily any other bad exampleOrion1986 wrote:Vasou, that was actually intentional. You can tell by her tone. Her character has a very "full of herself" image and she was trying to impress the director.
And got totally screwed. Ahaha. She seems to be emphasizing all the "errors" in her accent so I believe they did that on purpose, to show her character.
Haha! True!Silverman wrote:Now we are on the topic of "foreigners" in kdramas. Almost all of non-koreans are blond.
I don't know if anyone noticed, but these "foreigners" are in almost all cases Russians, who act as Americans.
but funny I couldn't believe my ears. I called my mother over to verify it. Ahaha. Fun times.
Maybe a nekkid one, but this is not going to happen The idea of sexy or romantic, is really something I can't understand, by Korean standards.Orion1986 wrote:Cause handwashing is a shekshi form of skinship! Ahaha. Well, shekshi by Korean drama standards. I guess it's nicer for a scene when some action is involved.
Seeing two people stand around a washing machine and talk doesn't have the same kick as them talking whole doing hard work and all. But for rich characters, yeah.
and have the warm breath of yours near his nect
And about pets, fangirls can't focus on anything else if there's a cute pet there. They'd miss the entire plot and then complain about the lack of it or something.
Maybe the man who can't get married is the only one I can think of. When I mean pet, I don't mean just seeing a pet here and there. Like they own one. I only recently saw in Scent of a woman one.But some animals have been present. The real reason is probably the expensive training and stalling they might cause. But I've seen cats and dogs as well.There was a "guest" kitty in That Fool and an AWESOME "main character" doggy in The Man Who Can't Get Married. That dog was epic. And in Protect the Boss now.
And yes, the eating thing is greek as well. Especially with moms. They think they can stuff the whole fridge in you and that they should, or you'll go hungry. There's a reason we got so many obese people.
They must have some good healthcare system as well. Here you can be bleeding to death and no one at the hospital will look at you unless you show your health insurance card. In K-dramas they just walk right into the hospital and get a bed.WildMuffins wrote:The fevers and IV drips: Koreans must be the weakest people on earth if they get that sick over emotional issues.
Well, I've heard some of the worst "Spanish" here on tv shows and movies. Let's just say I find it hard to believe that hollywood can't find someone who speaks proper Spanish in the US.Orion1986 wrote:And it's not only English too. They kill French and Italian sometimes. Other languages too. They should really consider the level of a show and the actor.
It's really cheap not to train an actor/actress. I don't think it would be that hard to learn a few lines and they'd gain some prestige when doing it as well.
that has been the main reason for me disliking or dropping a drama. some keep saying "don't expect too much" for a particular drama but it does not work if you are following an airing drama. they set you for very exciting and interesting storyline and then it ends up with most ridiculous ending that was totally different on how it started.Orion wrote:But it set me up for something smarter and without holes and it wasn't. For me, at least. ^^
"The Legend of Hyang Dan" is a sageuk romcom. With Choi Si Won in his first mainlead-role. The drama has just 2 episodes and is more on the comedyside. Not too great, but as we know, that there arent that much kdramas in this genre, so we cant be too picky...There are a lot more tw and c-dramas, which fit the bill...Orion1986 wrote:Give me a sageuk without tragedy and 4/5 of the cast dying and I'll watch it. Yes, romance can be tragic, yes, period setting is good for those, but not every friggin' single time.
I just wish some sageuks would be more like SKKS (as far as I watched). Set in period setting, but without being overly weepy or about politics. Sageuk rom-coms anyone?
I feel they are limiting a very interesting and indeed, well done genre like sageuk when they all look all manner of depressing and are less about the couple and more about the setting.
vasou wrote:O, I see what you are talking about. Maybe they are just trying to make the eye look more evil. This is my guess.
At least they are not like Hyo Rim's in Scent of a Woman...
Damn, did I said that loud?
Thank you for saying this loud for me because they got on my nerve since SKKS. doesn't she has mirrors at home and why nobody is telling her about them? and it's not that they are hopelessly thin that they can't play around with them. simple plucking would do them wonders. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests
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