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Park Yong Ha (1977 August 12 - 2010 June 30)

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Park Yong Ha (1977 August 12 - 2010 June 30)

Post by toyotaku » Jun 30th, '10, 06:41

Actor Park Yong Ha commits suicide

The news even hit Yahoo! News in the US,

I don't get it... why does seem like so many Korean entertainers commit suicide?

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 30th, '10, 07:04

Pressure, pressure, pressure.
And void around.

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Post by seirin » Jun 30th, '10, 07:12

It's hard to believe it's a suicide.
Jaejoong revealed in disbelief, “Park Yong Ha and I even had a phone call yesterday, so I really can’t believe he died. His voice sounded very bright, and I couldn’t feel any difference from other usual days. We ended the call by promising to have a drink of soju once I return to Korea after recording. It’s very shocking.”
Also, he still has to take care of his dad. If he did feel remorse and wanted to go, he should have waited until his father died first, then join him? Then he would be a filial son to the end at least.

He even signed on a new drama. If he was considering suicide, I don't think he would do a new drama and go away? That would be irresponsible.

I don't know his personality, but I feel most entertainers in Korea seem to feel a sense of responsibility to others. Like, even if you're sick, you continue filming until you drop dead or end up in the hospital.
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Post by toyotaku » Jun 30th, '10, 07:22

Ethlenn wrote:Pressure, pressure, pressure.
And void around.
Much more than most?

I mean, I know there are entertainers the world over who commit suicide and that in some cases they're from a culture that has something of a tradition of suicide, but after the past couple of years, it's getting noticeable that it's very high among Korean actors. Following the Japanese actors I do, especially Toyohara (who looked like death last week for the "Tobo bengoshi" press gig thanks to severe allergies, but still dragged himself there), I'm amazed at their schedules from hell and how little it takes for them them to get busted (compared to the west), yet they don't take the ultimate exit. It's sad and such a loss on personal & professional levels. (And I do realize that it's not just actors... that Korea has been high on the list for suicides.)

I'm sorry he felt so much pain he couldn't find another way to alleviate it.

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Post by The Chaos » Jun 30th, '10, 07:38

that Shocking news :cry:

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Post by gilnis » Jun 30th, '10, 07:41

It's so shocking... This world is so unfair and cruel... It was just in a couple of days that I was talking with my friends about how funny Park Yong Ha was and how much we liked him. I often mentioned him, because he was the very first Asian actor whom I came to know and led me into the world of Asian dramas. I also honestly feel sorry for him very very much. :cry:

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Post by Romance » Jun 30th, '10, 11:05

He just seemed to be such a good and kind guy... :cry: R.I.P

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Post by Orion1986 » Jun 30th, '10, 11:38

A very sad thing indeed. Society and the movie/tv industry should help such people, not push them to the edge. That's murder, anyway you slice it. I can't even imagine how his poor mother must feel. Hope he's somewhere better and hope the ones left behind will cope.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 30th, '10, 13:47

The list of those people used up by their agencies or management is long.
One actress (can't remember the name right now) committed suicide last year because she was treated not only as a tool, but as a sex-tool also.
I don't really know what makes most actors so immune to this, maybe they can copy with pressure and hard bashing, i don't know. But some are just unfit to this job, although they can perform great.

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Post by Orion1986 » Jun 30th, '10, 13:54

Are you talking about that girl from Boys Over Flowers? Yes, read that too. Poor woman. Thing is, when they see they have such a problem, they should take measures to lessen it. Have tighter control over the people responsible for these actors.
I mean, they can be very hypocritical as a government and people. They're all prude about showing sex and/or kissing in drama as if innocence is all the governs their culture and movie/tv world and then things like this happen.
Maybe they should spend less time nitpicking on stupid things and more time taking proper and real measures to keep not only audiences, but their actors and crew members, safe. You don't make money if you burn your actors dry. You lose money.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 30th, '10, 14:00

Yes, it's her. She was really poor, and lost.
Plus, something should be done with netizens. They can drive people to the madness. Some crazy fangirls sent few letters to different celebrities written in blood (fangirls not celebrities).

But on the other hand, the celebrites were the ones who signed the contracts, they should know that this business is not only fleshes and interviews, but also hardship, using, manipulating and hatred. In addition, a rat-race sometimes.

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Post by The Chaos » Jun 30th, '10, 14:11

which girl you talking about ??

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Post by Orion1986 » Jun 30th, '10, 14:12

True, but if you signed up for it thinking you'd have support from at least your own managers and agency only to get more and more pressured by the very people you thought would keep things comfortable for you, is a real b*tch slap.
Netizens wouldn't have the power they do if they weren't supported and enabled by agencies and their greed. Instead of being on their actor's/actress' side and guarding them against such people, they just look to use their talents to make money from said people at the actor's/actress' expense.

The Chaos, this actress.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 30th, '10, 14:23

That's true, sadly.
It's some kind of spell that is hard to break. Aparently celebrities in Korea have it harder than anywhere else. Agencies just suck them dry and don't care.

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Post by The Chaos » Jun 30th, '10, 14:34

Orion1986 wrote: The Chaos, this actress.
Thanks for the link Orion-chan ...it seem this the third suicide I see in Korean entertainment world :(

hope the number won't get up :cry:

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Post by Orion1986 » Jun 30th, '10, 14:37

You're welcome.

It all depends on how the industry is run from now on. They shouldn't let people become actors/actresses if they aren't of a sturdy nature.
And even if they can't know that from the beginning, they should ease up on them and get them help instead of pushing more and more if they do notice they're struggling.

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Post by The Chaos » Jun 30th, '10, 15:05

I agree ..it go to singers as well the Company make them work all year with any vacation or day off :glare:


that a lot of pressure no can handle : /

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Post by Orion1986 » Jun 30th, '10, 15:47

Singers and actors and usually/especially with idols. Idols are money cows and they get milked and milked and milked.
They can't stand on their own because they usually aren't as talented in their individual profession (acting, singing) as they are "fashionable" and popular or they are talented, but got trapped in the "idol" status and can't break out.

So they need to work very hard to maintain that fame and fortune and keeping the interest of flaky teens who have the attention span of a goldfish isn't easy. Such people need to be constantly reminded of how cool some idol is.
They and their agencies don't rely on good works to get more fame, they rely on public appearances and a million different activities and shows and cfs and other things. Fangirls cough up the big money, but they're also the toughest crowd to please.

Idols also work too much and in capacities they shouldn't. A singer sings and an actor acts. But they get dragged into everything from cfs to fanmeetings, fashion shows, fashion shoots etc etc etc.
I mean, come on! They're ONE person! They can't and shouldn't be expected to do it all! In which western countries do you see actors who also make cfs at such a rate or also have singing concerts when they're not singers or do so much stuff other than acting?
Not in many places. In fact, I can't think of any place other than Asia where celebrities are worked to death like this.

And in Asia especially, there's so much emphasis on the "idol" status and so many crazy fangirls to please that it's a constant fight and rat race to top other idols. They don't realize that the more they feed them, the more they'll ask.
If suddenly, everyone stopped projecting idols so much. If suddenly pop idols and people like them stopped people pleasing to a ridiculous extent and started to just be good at what they do. What do you think would happen? Do you think the fangirls would stop watching?

They'd b*tch for a while and then adapt. Fangirls NEED to "adore" people. They thrive on fangirlism. So even if the industry toned the whole idol deal down, the fangirls would have no choice, but to adjust.
Instead of doing that, they just keep throwing water in a well with a hole in its walls that will never fill. People are greedy. Especially immature brats who can't think about what their requests and whinning can do to others.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 30th, '10, 16:28

We may rant all we can, but those in charge of Korean entertainment are hard-headed and blind to any sign of the danger. They have always been. All they care about is profit, not noticing that behind the profit is always someone.

Boys from DBSK said some time ago they didn't have any holiday for 2 years. How long a human body can work without a proper rest?
I mean, lately KNG had a severe hernia, but he wasn't granted any time to rest but insted he had to appear on "Bad Guy" plan. Who cared anyway in the big SBS company?
TV companies, agencies and management just see their stars as a fountain of prosperity, but they are sly enough knowing that it's not an everlasting fountain. So they take as much as they can, not caring if they leave the fountain dry, or destroyed for that matter.

And this all is covered up as "not intruding in personal life". Bullsh*t with big B, my comrades. It is just being unscrupulous.

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Post by MisS Lonliah » Jun 30th, '10, 17:04

May him rest in peace now......

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 30th, '10, 17:50

Buddhist funeral ceremony is scheduled on July 2nd.

Although I'm sad, I'm also a realist. I don't think this tragic death will change anything.

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Post by canon05 » Jun 30th, '10, 19:04

Unbelievable. When I read the news, my first thought was like "That Park Yong-ha committed suicide?!?" :O

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Post by Romance » Jun 30th, '10, 22:20

Sure they seem to be pressed hard.. but why can't they think outside the box for once? If i was one of them i would just say "f*** you" to everyone pressing/teasing them, leave the country with all the money and start a new relaxing life somewhere else. Cant be that hard. There are always solutions. To kill yourself because of something that in the long run doesnt matter at all, such as work and money, is really miserable :-(

there are always solutions..

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Post by toyotaku » Jun 30th, '10, 23:19

there are always solutions..
Sure... to someone not depressed and thinking clearly. What critics of suicides forget (or have never known because they've never experienced it themselves) is that depression robs a person of reason and replaces it with any manner of demons. It's not something the person can control, either. The pressures put on a person during those times of weakness, even the ordinary run-of-the-mill varieties they may be quite accustomed to, make it worse.

It's easy to criticize, difficult to help someone suffering. As someone who has suffered from a chronic depressive disorder for several years now, it's amazing how quickly friends, family, colleagues "disappear" when I need them most. Most of the time, all I need is someone just to be there until the brain chemistry re-balances, but everyone's too busy. Things like paranoia quickly set in... things I intellectually know not to be true... and it becomes too easy to want to end the pain and sense of being completely alone, to feeling entirely hopeless.

Even more sadly amazing is how many people come out of the woodwork when a celebrity dies, proclaiming what good friends they were (I'm talking people the person knows, not fans who have no real contact). From what I've been able to read, sounds like not many were keeping in close contact with him and at a time when he could've done with a little time out with a friend.

I was interested in reading what those who are fans of Korea's entertainers have had to say about what their lives are like under the pressures of the business, if it was tougher than even what little I knew of it in Japan (I've never heard about what conditions Chinese/Taiwanese actors work under). Sounds like pure slavery (and with precious little to no ability to tell anyone to f*** off if they ever want to work again). It's this kind of inhumane pressure that made the Screen Actors Guild so powerful in the US, to make sure studios & management couldn't continue such abuse without consequences. Sometimes SAG gets too powerful, but something like it is so needed in Korea and Japan at least.

All of this just makes me feel even more pain for the guy. It's too late to help him, but this could be such an excellent opportunity for awareness and making some changes. Like people have said here, though, nothing is likely to change. Status quo is easier than change, especially when there's always another in line to take someone's place.

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Post by Peggy » Jul 1st, '10, 20:50

No-one can understand what is in the mind of a person who takes his own life. I am not talking about the Japanese seppuku. that is totally different.

How lonely the person must be. It has nothing to do with money or family or work really. It has to do with the mind being unable to realse they are loved and worthy and wanted. No-one can see that few minutes of utter loneliness that renders the mind unsound for that short time. It is an act of totall desperation crying for help in the most impossible way.

I don't think the person is doing it to be selfish at all. Yes it is selfish as seen by those left, but for the person, it is the feeling of being completely unable to cope with living.

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Post by Alecsa-chan » Jul 2nd, '10, 12:51

And it was raining during the funeral from what I can see in the pictures. They say if it's raining at one's funeral then he regrets he left this life...

May he rest in peace now.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jul 2nd, '10, 13:13

The title of this article in Korean says (if I remember right): ... even Heaven cries.

It's still not right.

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Post by Peggy » Jul 7th, '10, 07:42

I just think this is a tragedy that should not have happened at all. I don't think Park Yong Ha
wanted to die but he was in despair and the moment overtook him before he could sort his thoughts out properly. No doubt at all he was desolate about his father and that had much to do with it.

It's just so sad.

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Post by Ethlenn » Jun 29th, '11, 16:26

One year after actor Park Yongha committed suicide, a memorial service will be held in Gyeonggi-do. On June 30, Park Yongha's family, friends, and fans will attend the event to remember him.

The event will begin in the morning at a temple that enshrines Park Yongha's remains. In addition to Park Yongha's family, friends, and Korean fans; 1,500 Japanese fans will fly to Korea for the sole purpose of attending his memorial.

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Post by .Silent. » Jun 30th, '11, 16:00

My gosh, that's so sad.
I really liked him.
"Story of a Man" was so good because of him. Dammit... :cry:
I don't understand, what kind of problem can make sb to commit suicide? :cry:
And I was waiting for his new drama... :cry: :cry: :cry:

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