Disturbing rumors about JE (Johnnies Entertainment)
LOL First time dropping around here, so this is only rumor land? i thought it would have more to do with the real disturbing rumors LOLL...so many rumors and most if not all of them with no base ot thruth to them.
People you really like to get worked about this rumor things!!!
Regarding Jin, he went to Usa to study, get far from the jimuso and relax a bit far from the press, he got no one pregnat or did anything weird to have the need to be going abroad (you know he loves kids and wouldn't have gone away for that) He is daying no one right now unless you count his dinner with his english teacher, if you think things coldly and don't gat carried away this guys are really boring regarding their real life
I find more interesting the insides of the jimusho and why ones get to debut while others are still in the sidelines and things like that
People you really like to get worked about this rumor things!!!
Regarding Jin, he went to Usa to study, get far from the jimuso and relax a bit far from the press, he got no one pregnat or did anything weird to have the need to be going abroad (you know he loves kids and wouldn't have gone away for that) He is daying no one right now unless you count his dinner with his english teacher, if you think things coldly and don't gat carried away this guys are really boring regarding their real life
I find more interesting the insides of the jimusho and why ones get to debut while others are still in the sidelines and things like that
^LOL All the extremly disturbing rumours have already come out...esp concerning Johhny himself.....
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I don't quite understand what you meant......Kinda sounds like he loves kids a little toooo much I think if he did something like that he would certainly have gone away cuz Johhny wouldn't want JE to be tarnished.....Ginoru wrote: (you know he loves kids and wouldn't have gone away for that)
Actually that is not something boring his dating his English Teacher !!!! What is that true? First someone younger and now someone older well I dunno but yeah JE's lead a life that is anything but boringGinoru wrote:He is daying no one right now unless you count his dinner with his english teacher
ooooo Spill the dirt!!!!!!!!!!Ginoru wrote: I find more interesting the insides of the jimusho and why ones get to debut while others are still in the sidelines and things like that
Yup Johnny has had many rumors running around himsahansah wrote:^LOL All the extremly disturbing rumours have already come out...esp concerning Johhny himself.....
I don't quite understand what you meant......Kinda sounds like he loves kids a little toooo much
Actually that is not something boring his dating his English Teacher !!!! What is that true? First someone younger and now someone older well I dunno but yeah JE's lead a life that is anything but boring
ooooo Spill the dirt!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you know tht Jin wants between three and five jids and wants them soon? That's all i meant
He went to have dinner with his english teacher that happened to be on JApan and that was turned into a date gezzz....tabloids...
Most of Je guys date, have dated etc... older women(rumor--->Kame), they prefer them and i think i understand, older women are not crazy fangirls and keep cool heads
Their lifes are boring, get up go to work until exaustion and meet some friends no more than that and even when they do a "crazy party" (like going to Maru's house before the countdown, 3 Kattun, 3 Eitos plus Toma) It turned to be nothing more than three hours playing cards; Okinawa trip until 2 AM playing cards too.......their are in their twenties!
Dirt? i am not interested, there is enough around between lawsuits, who can marry and when and with whom etc.......
Karate-ka In my case i only hang around Kattun so the rest are abit off to me ;)
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i read the entire thread. all 26 pages, and i'd say over half of them were mindless drabble by sahansah-san and kozumifan-san (i added the suffixes so as not to seem rude because what i was saying was kinda rude, even though i meant it jokingly). it was quite difficult to wade through all the squabbling, but kinda enjoyable.
About the whole Johnny Kitagawa Perv thing: I'd very much bet that he has had sexual relations with some of the boys. i also bet that most/all of it was consensual. To be honest, this is Asia. there are other places that he could get tail if he really wanted. and going to those other places wouldn't be jepordizing his business and reputation.
About the guys who have told of their experience, think about it. if for some reason you've left Johnny's and are bitter about it (maybe you realized you spent your entire childhood dancing in tight white pants for the entertainment of teenage girls, or maybe you left on bad terms) what would be the best way to get back at JE? "Speaking out" against Johnny Kitagawa's abusiveness. I'm not saying they all lied, i just think they could've decided that they didn't want it to happen after the fact.
I hope i'm right for the sake of my favorite Johnnies. i don't think many of my favorites would put up with being molested, to be honest. i'm sure more of them would have the pride to leave if something bad was actually happening. i also don't think it's right to hope that Johnny dies, because for a lot of these boys, he's like a father to them. and JE is like there home, so it's pretty bad to wish it to be shut down.
Also, about the other rumors about JE boys: I think the thing Ryo supposedly said is hilarious. i honestly wouldn't put it past him to say something like that and i honestly hope it did. it makes me love him all the more in some strange way! and i also wouldn't put it past Jin to get a girl pregnant. i mean, look at him. if that's not fertile, i don't know what is. and if it was a publicity stunt, probably from her side, ne?
And whatever did happen to Jimmy?
About the whole Johnny Kitagawa Perv thing: I'd very much bet that he has had sexual relations with some of the boys. i also bet that most/all of it was consensual. To be honest, this is Asia. there are other places that he could get tail if he really wanted. and going to those other places wouldn't be jepordizing his business and reputation.
About the guys who have told of their experience, think about it. if for some reason you've left Johnny's and are bitter about it (maybe you realized you spent your entire childhood dancing in tight white pants for the entertainment of teenage girls, or maybe you left on bad terms) what would be the best way to get back at JE? "Speaking out" against Johnny Kitagawa's abusiveness. I'm not saying they all lied, i just think they could've decided that they didn't want it to happen after the fact.
I hope i'm right for the sake of my favorite Johnnies. i don't think many of my favorites would put up with being molested, to be honest. i'm sure more of them would have the pride to leave if something bad was actually happening. i also don't think it's right to hope that Johnny dies, because for a lot of these boys, he's like a father to them. and JE is like there home, so it's pretty bad to wish it to be shut down.
Also, about the other rumors about JE boys: I think the thing Ryo supposedly said is hilarious. i honestly wouldn't put it past him to say something like that and i honestly hope it did. it makes me love him all the more in some strange way! and i also wouldn't put it past Jin to get a girl pregnant. i mean, look at him. if that's not fertile, i don't know what is. and if it was a publicity stunt, probably from her side, ne?
And whatever did happen to Jimmy?
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I don't know if this has been posted already, but what the heck, I'm posting it.
if you're one of those delusional crazed fangirls of JE, I suggest you take your medicine first before you click on the spoiler box. Oh and before anything else, don't ask me where I got this, coz I dunno either. And for the record, I didn't make this up.
Pretty interesting eh?
if you're one of those delusional crazed fangirls of JE, I suggest you take your medicine first before you click on the spoiler box. Oh and before anything else, don't ask me where I got this, coz I dunno either. And for the record, I didn't make this up.
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the chart was based on RUMOURS and some actuall datings where the media found OUT about it ~~~
some might not be true but some are true.... they are BOYS they think with their 3rd leg.... so believe it or not, some of the ARE dating and ARE sleeping with some girls we know nothing about... nothing we can do about it. so that chart might have some truth innit.
some might not be true but some are true.... they are BOYS they think with their 3rd leg.... so believe it or not, some of the ARE dating and ARE sleeping with some girls we know nothing about... nothing we can do about it. so that chart might have some truth innit.
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i don't give a rat's ass if the JE boys are dating and sleeping with chicks we don't know.
it's just that BS chart that pisses me off.
yes, some of those girls might have actually dated some of them, but most of them might be just rumors.
and the JE boys better NOT be virgins!!! those guys are in their 20s already. lol
it's just that BS chart that pisses me off.
yes, some of those girls might have actually dated some of them, but most of them might be just rumors.
and the JE boys better NOT be virgins!!! those guys are in their 20s already. lol
I agree with you. I don't care who the guys sleep with in private. I mean come on many of them are freaking adults now. As for the underage one's there parents need to keep watch over them not fan girls or pevert Johnny.miznagase wrote:i don't give a rat's ass if the JE boys are dating and sleeping with chicks we don't know.
it's just that BS chart that pisses me off.
yes, some of those girls might have actually dated some of them, but most of them might be just rumors.
and the JE boys better NOT be virgins!!! those guys are in their 20s already. lol
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yah.. been reading this.... seriously... and alot of time foreign fs get different infomation.....
I seriously dodn't care about there personal life right now.... O__O....
I serious want to be there friends to know more abotu them...
and also... I hate rumors.... because people say "THEY ARE DATING" and exspeically us who find out but the truth is they aren't and we think they are because we(foreign fansget half the infomation....
It makes me sad when some fan think them little lowly.... (not only that abotu the younger ones.... i heard that Yuuto, yamada,,, and other hey say JUMP memeber are nto ven popualr in school... hahahaha..... and it because they are loud mouths...)
I bet alot of girls are intimated by them some times.... (liek non fans..)
I dodn't know... i liek to think of them as really nice peopel to know and be friends with.... nto talk about there lives like all the info we get is true and make them out to be bad people some times.....
I seriously dodn't care about there personal life right now.... O__O....
I serious want to be there friends to know more abotu them...
and also... I hate rumors.... because people say "THEY ARE DATING" and exspeically us who find out but the truth is they aren't and we think they are because we(foreign fansget half the infomation....
It makes me sad when some fan think them little lowly.... (not only that abotu the younger ones.... i heard that Yuuto, yamada,,, and other hey say JUMP memeber are nto ven popualr in school... hahahaha..... and it because they are loud mouths...)
I bet alot of girls are intimated by them some times.... (liek non fans..)
I dodn't know... i liek to think of them as really nice peopel to know and be friends with.... nto talk about there lives like all the info we get is true and make them out to be bad people some times.....
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where can i find those pics???LeckerSchmecker wrote:Well its true that Koki dated her since she sold the pics of them together to the press, but her relationship with yamapi is just a rumour, they get along quite well sinve they where both in the same high school and are good friends
i saw the one where koki's arms are wrapped around her, but that's it.
i want more proof!!!
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I know I've seen them too... its was on some blog but I dont remeber where DX~~~so im not a big help... DXmiznagase wrote:where can i find those pics???LeckerSchmecker wrote:Well its true that Koki dated her since she sold the pics of them together to the press, but her relationship with yamapi is just a rumour, they get along quite well sinve they where both in the same high school and are good friends
i saw the one where koki's arms are wrapped around her, but that's it.
i want more proof!!!
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Re: Disturbing rumors about JE (Johnnies Entertainment)
oh my... is that true??ryobreak wrote:Is it true that Johnny Kitamura (the owner of Johnnies) has a tendency to assault, abuse, or attempts erotic relationships with Johnnies members?
On wikipedia there's information saying that one former JE member tried to sue him over it but he filed for defamation..
Also, a friend of mine said that a rumor was circulating about him and Tackey&Tsubasa
minamichan03 wrote:oh my... is that true??ryobreak wrote:Is it true that Johnny Kitamura (the owner of Johnnies) has a tendency to assault, abuse, or attempts erotic relationships with Johnnies members?
On wikipedia there's information saying that one former JE member tried to sue him over it but he filed for defamation..
Also, a friend of mine said that a rumor was circulating about him and Tackey&Tsubasa
http://www.geocities.com/Eriol_Ennui/johnny1.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Artic ... 93,00.html
http://homepage.mac.com/ehara_gen/jealo ... abuse.html (there's a text in English too)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A9669C8B63
kudos. I'm sure some of it was consensual, most likely in the 70's when Johnny wasn't that much of a geezer. there are/were a lot of boys in JE, there is no way in hell all of them are straight.saki-chan wrote: About the whole Johnny Kitagawa Perv thing: I'd very much bet that he has had sexual relations with some of the boys. i also bet that most/all of it was consensual. To be honest, this is Asia. there are other places that he could get tail if he really wanted. and going to those other places wouldn't be jepordizing his business and reputation.
About the guys who have told of their experience, think about it. if for some reason you've left Johnny's and are bitter about it (maybe you realized you spent your entire childhood dancing in tight white pants for the entertainment of teenage girls, or maybe you left on bad terms) what would be the best way to get back at JE? "Speaking out" against Johnny Kitagawa's abusiveness. I'm not saying they all lied, i just think they could've decided that they didn't want it to happen after the fact.
besides, it's not like this is the first time something like this has happened. when you're powerful, you can get away with more.
Johnny's Entertainment bothers me. Poor JE Boys...
I've heard a lot of gossips about Johnny(Big Boss of Johnny's Entertainment) taking sexually advantages of the JE boys, like Inagaki Goro of Smap reportedly being so bruised up after Johnny's "romantic advances" that it was too painful for him to even practised his dance routines.
It was also written in a book about Japan's Entertainment that Johnny's like the boys to swim in the buff for him to watches for hours, and if a Johnny's Junior wanted to début-he would have to be subjected to Johnny's often harsh and very humiliating rape. (okay, long cat is loongg habit)
Not to mentioned that 95% of the pop stars earning would go towards the agency! I mean,c'mon-What do you expect them to eat with that meagre income! I think that no wonder up till now, Yamapi house is still so cramped and small, where he have to move out of his room to let his mother sleep.
I know that the Japanese are very polite about this, and they are a pretty homosexuality tolerant society, but by turning a blind eyes to this, they are literally giving that old paedophile freedom to torture the poor boys souls and possibly scarring them for life? Can't the fans do something if they care about their idols so much? You are literally putting million of dollars into an old pervert hands for him to do dirty acts, and you don't even beat an eyelids about it? Although I feel like boycotting them, but to know that my favourite idols will possibly even get less cash hurts me.
So overseas fans, I think we need to do something now. We have to let that old Johnny KNOWS and REALISES that he CANNOT laid a hand of our JE boys anymore!
JE fans, for the sake of our idols,unite!
It was also written in a book about Japan's Entertainment that Johnny's like the boys to swim in the buff for him to watches for hours, and if a Johnny's Junior wanted to début-he would have to be subjected to Johnny's often harsh and very humiliating rape. (okay, long cat is loongg habit)
Not to mentioned that 95% of the pop stars earning would go towards the agency! I mean,c'mon-What do you expect them to eat with that meagre income! I think that no wonder up till now, Yamapi house is still so cramped and small, where he have to move out of his room to let his mother sleep.
I know that the Japanese are very polite about this, and they are a pretty homosexuality tolerant society, but by turning a blind eyes to this, they are literally giving that old paedophile freedom to torture the poor boys souls and possibly scarring them for life? Can't the fans do something if they care about their idols so much? You are literally putting million of dollars into an old pervert hands for him to do dirty acts, and you don't even beat an eyelids about it? Although I feel like boycotting them, but to know that my favourite idols will possibly even get less cash hurts me.
So overseas fans, I think we need to do something now. We have to let that old Johnny KNOWS and REALISES that he CANNOT laid a hand of our JE boys anymore!
JE fans, for the sake of our idols,unite!
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Nah, I didn't read this from livejournal. It's from this book "Secrets, sex, and spectacle: the rules of scandal in Japan and the United States"
By Mark D. West
Of course I do hope this scandal is not true in any case, but as fans we really shouldn't turn a blind eye to atrocious acts like this! Btw, I think it's his niece in charge now, but I don't think that would sop him in anyway if he's a pervert.
By Mark D. West
Of course I do hope this scandal is not true in any case, but as fans we really shouldn't turn a blind eye to atrocious acts like this! Btw, I think it's his niece in charge now, but I don't think that would sop him in anyway if he's a pervert.
Well theire are many theories about it. One is that many Japanese girls like Yaoi stuff. Another one came from a Interview when it was asked why he only trained boys? He said because they are easy to handel, that interview led to many speculations but he didnt meant some sexual stuff.maneein wrote:Nah, I didn't read this from livejournal. It's from this book "Secrets, sex, and spectacle: the rules of scandal in Japan and the United States"
By Mark D. West
Of course I do hope this scandal is not true in any case, but as fans we really shouldn't turn a blind eye to atrocious acts like this!
Also he is a very strict boss, and can be very harsh sometimes depending how things are it might be that the idols he once promoted turned against him.
Well some of the many things.
But even if it happend i dont think this happens today, most likely he doesnt hold the title as president...
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Re: Johnny's Entertainment bothers me. Poor JE Boys...
Nice. Just 20 years too late. These things happened ages ago. The man is almost 80 years old, I doubt that he's still sexually active, or physically able to rape anyone.maneein wrote:So overseas fans, I think we need to do something now. We have to let that old Johnny KNOWS and REALISES that he CANNOT laid a hand of our JE boys anymore!
JE fans, for the sake of our idols,unite!
Besides, the matter has already been dealt with in court.
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Re: Johnny's Entertainment bothers me. Poor JE Boys...
Ya think? I wouldn't write The Goblin King off just yet if I were you. So he's almost 80? Piffle. Hugh Hefner is 83, and is showing no signs of slowing down (three girlfriends this year, all concurrent). Just saying, you know...Ya3genshiro wrote: The man is almost 80 years old, I doubt that he's still sexually active, or physically able to rape anyone.
Ahhh, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. What an enigma you are. Old as dirt, yet indestructible as ever, with a gnarled claw--er, finger in every J-Ent pie. How many more centuries of *cough* institutionalized pederasty *cough* before you kick the proverbial bucket, eh Johnny? (Oh, I forgot that the... undead can't really die, ne? )
The first time I saw a photo of that wrinkly old gnome, he was surrounded by this bevy of androgynously beautiful, dewy-lipped youths (who later turned out to be, er, Kame and Jin, only I didn't know who they were yet ), and it made me throw up in my mouth. And it still does, and it still does...
Oh well, it's moot anyway. Those nubile young Johnnies (and pre-Johnnies) are a lost cause, regardless of how many more salacious little tell-alls surface in the coming years. I know it's a terrible way to live (if there's any truth to the rumors), but for a lot of those Jimusho-property-since-pre-pubsescence J-Idols, it seems to be the only life they've ever known. Ah, the cruel price of fame, J-Ent style.
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Re: Johnny's Entertainment bothers me. Poor JE Boys...
JE is not the hell that it is depicted. Though I partially do believe those sexual harassment accusations from the past. The descriptions in court were just too graphic for some of them to be not true *shudder*maneein wrote:
Not to mentioned that 95% of the pop stars earning would go towards the agency! I mean,c'mon-What do you expect them to eat with that meagre income! I think that no wonder up till now, Yamapi house is still so cramped and small, where he have to move out of his room to let his mother sleep.
I know that the Japanese are very polite about this, and they are a pretty homosexuality tolerant society, but by turning a blind eyes to this, they are literally giving that old paedophile freedom to torture the poor boys souls and possibly scarring them for life? Can't the fans do something if they care about their idols so much? You are literally putting million of dollars into an old pervert hands for him to do dirty acts, and you don't even beat an eyelids about it? Although I feel like boycotting them, but to know that my favourite idols will possibly even get less cash hurts me.
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But I will talk about working conditions (EXCLUDING the sexual harassment bit) and MONEY.
Any big Yamapi fan has been suspecting he lives ALONE. Has been I think for 2-3years now. He goes back home quite often though. He likes to project a good boy image (or at least used to) and says he lives at home. But lately it seems he speaks up more about living at his own place but this "living by himself" is not a recent development.
Aiba drives a porsche. Sho drives BMW. Jun drives a Range Rover. Yamapi is said by fans to be driving a Hummer. I'm not sure about Pi's car though. Nakai of SMAP was once the biggest earner in Japan. JE is not as bad as others make them out to be. AGAIN EXCLUDING SEXUAL HARASSMENT RUMOURS. WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT MONEY AND WORKING CONDITIONS HERE.Their minors have WORK permits. They are not allowed to stay at the annual countdown late. Since the harassment cases JE boys do not have to live in a dorm together thus allowing them to live with their family and lead at least a slightly normal life. JE boys are ENCOURAGED to take the train to work when they were Juniors or just debuted. I think that's really humbling.
Johnny's Entertainment is NOT SM Entertainment. TRUE the boys do not earn as much as they would have if JE didn't take a good portion. But they do earn quite a lot compared to like said SM. That is why in SM Entertainment's case those morning show hosts were saying DBSK probably had some conversation with their peers in Japan compared it with what they were getting. They were speculating it was part of the reason why JYJ sued. Maybe Japanese Idols/Singers do get a bigger cut that Korean idols *shrug*
I am not a SM Ent. hater heck I am fine with Homin staying with them. But I just really do not like it when people say JE boys earn ****. **** compared to Hollywood celebs but still not the "starving oohh poor boys taking the train" level some people think.
http://community.livejournal.com/aramat ... 56398.html
If JE sucked so bad do you guys think Sakurai Sho would stay with them? He comes from a family of scholars. His relatives and his parents' friends looked down on his decision to become an idol. But he remained. His dad is bureaucrat. If there was some unfair conditions I think Sho's dad would have pulled him out ages ago.
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