[Discussion] Last Friends - Nagasawa Masami/Ueno Juri/Eita
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That's understandable... It's a hard scene to watch without wincing.epi wrote:i am so torn about whether i should watch this or not because whenever i watch drama series i always have strong reaction towards it, especially in the case of people being mean to others because of character (like ryo in this series)
And Swing Girls.on the one hand i really really want to watch this because of juri ... i agree with what all of you have said here ... she has amazing acting skills and she has chosen well for her roles that portray the depth of her acting skills
i've watched her supporting roles in orange days and engine, and of course who could forget nodame
she owns all of those characters
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one more person who support Eita weird hair^^
well u should try to watch the series coz it really good with great cast^^
eventhough u might hate Ryo but u might also going to pity and feel for him when he cry and beg for forgiveness for his action and after that hate him again when he still continue his DV action....
well we might going to back and forth hating and pitying his character which will be fun^^
one more person who support Eita weird hair^^
well u should try to watch the series coz it really good with great cast^^
eventhough u might hate Ryo but u might also going to pity and feel for him when he cry and beg for forgiveness for his action and after that hate him again when he still continue his DV action....
well we might going to back and forth hating and pitying his character which will be fun^^
Ryo plays the 'contradiction' theme pretty well indeed. Like watching a train wreck, you can't tear your eyes off even though you know something bad is gonna happen. I can totally feel Michiru's uneasiness while trying to pretend like there's nothing wrong when she sees him going through her mails. I'm looking forward to the Sosuke/Michiru/Ruka face-off in the 2nd episode.
In the meantime, smile~
In the meantime, smile~
ill post some thoughts about the first episode...very disturbing...yet very good acting for the cast especially Juri-san. my sister hated this drama after watching the ending scene LOL shes a fan of nodame and quite shocked with the role of Juri in here. I said to her that Juri's role in this drama what makes her an amazing actress. im looking forward to the development of the characters. ive watched that interview bmwracer! Juri-san having quite a hard time practicing the motocross scenes...poor Juri-san I hope she wont get hurt anymore.
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I wouldn't worry about Juri-chan: along with being a gamer, she's a tough gal.talongero wrote:ill post some thoughts about the first episode...very disturbing...yet very good acting for the cast especially Juri-san. my sister hated this drama after watching the ending scene LOL shes a fan of nodame and quite shocked with the role of Juri in here. I said to her that Juri's role in this drama what makes her an amazing actress. im looking forward to the development of the characters. ive watched that interview bmwracer! Juri-san having quite a hard time practicing the motocross scenes...poor Juri-san I hope she wont get hurt anymore.
I think everyone was rather stunned/shocked in one way or another, but we'll get over it and move on with the story... And maybe that's what the director had in mind as well, rather than letting that plot point simmer/fester...
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It is like no one on here saw swing girls... She is a great actor, I hated her character in swing girls. But nodame is my favorite character of all time, and now juri as ruka is brilliant.bmwracer wrote:That's understandable... It's a hard scene to watch without wincing.epi wrote:i am so torn about whether i should watch this or not because whenever i watch drama series i always have strong reaction towards it, especially in the case of people being mean to others because of character (like ryo in this series)
And Swing Girls.on the one hand i really really want to watch this because of juri ... i agree with what all of you have said here ... she has amazing acting skills and she has chosen well for her roles that portray the depth of her acting skills
i've watched her supporting roles in orange days and engine, and of course who could forget nodame
she owns all of those characters
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Then they're missing out... It's not a thought-provoking movie by any means, but fun and exuberant...jigenbakuda wrote:It is like no one on here saw swing girls...
She is a great actor, I hated her character in swing girls.
Really.....?
I'd have to agree... She took that role and ran with it big time... I can't remember anyone in any drama I've seen become the total embodiment of a character like Juri-chan did as Nodame...But nodame is my favorite character of all time
Ack, I'm gushing... I'll shut my pie-hole now.
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bmwracer wrote:She is a great actor, I hated her character in swing girls.
Really.....?
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Oh well maybe I should clarify. Someone who steals her imouto's ps2 to sell for whatever is not nice. Plus she messed up a lot and blamed everyone else. Like buying the used instruments, lol. She was like, see good as new <break> WHY DID YOU LET ME BUY THAT? lol She was funny, but I hate people like her character. Also the gyoza scene at their baito, sekiguchi said it was a bad idea to have all of them over there, lol. The movie was hilarious but just did not like her character's personality, but did thoroughly enjoy the implied relationship between her and piano boy
No please do gush, because I am gushing over masami x juri So please gush over nodame, in fact gush over the nodame in the white composer wig like I did for 2 months after the SP
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I gotcha.jigenbakuda wrote:Oh well maybe I should clarify. Someone who steals her imouto's ps2 to sell for whatever is not nice. Plus she messed up a lot and blamed everyone else. Like buying the used instruments, lol. She was like, see good as new <break> WHY DID YOU LET ME BUY THAT? lol She was funny, but I hate people like her character. Also the gyoza scene at their baito, sekiguchi said it was a bad idea to have all of them over there, lol. The movie was hilarious but just did not like her character's personality, but did thoroughly enjoy the implied relationship between her and piano boy
In all fairness though, it's a comedy, so those type of events are for comic effect... In real life, yeah, that's pretty rude/mean, but it's broad humor, so I didn't take it seriously at all...
Interesting that you would say those things about Swing Girls, but not be offended by the slapstick of Nodame: some people at the J-Dorama forum were rather put off by the exaggerated cartoon violence...
Oh well, can't please everyone....
I saw Swing Girls! Around a year or so ago. Loved it. And yeah, I though Juri was awesome in it. ^^
Here's the subs for episode 1: http://suketeru.livejournal.com/23111.html
Haven't check it out yet myself but it's better than nothing so those who haven't watch it, go watch it now!
Here's the subs for episode 1: http://suketeru.livejournal.com/23111.html
Haven't check it out yet myself but it's better than nothing so those who haven't watch it, go watch it now!
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Well I thought the violence in nodame was so darn cute, gyabo... I still laugh. Well juri is awesome, but now I can realize how awesome because subs are out... But can not seem to download them...bmwracer wrote:I gotcha.jigenbakuda wrote:Oh well maybe I should clarify. Someone who steals her imouto's ps2 to sell for whatever is not nice. Plus she messed up a lot and blamed everyone else. Like buying the used instruments, lol. She was like, see good as new <break> WHY DID YOU LET ME BUY THAT? lol She was funny, but I hate people like her character. Also the gyoza scene at their baito, sekiguchi said it was a bad idea to have all of them over there, lol. The movie was hilarious but just did not like her character's personality, but did thoroughly enjoy the implied relationship between her and piano boy
In all fairness though, it's a comedy, so those type of events are for comic effect... In real life, yeah, that's pretty rude/mean, but it's broad humor, so I didn't take it seriously at all...
Interesting that you would say those things about Swing Girls, but not be offended by the slapstick of Nodame: some people at the J-Dorama forum were rather put off by the exaggerated cartoon violence...
Oh well, can't please everyone....
Edit: neeeevermind, I was blocking the scripts, duh, lol.
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Soft subs? Yea I think I'm gonna watch it three times too
Just finished watching the first ep yesterday.. How great is Juri, huh? I love her!! She really knows what roles to take.. I haven't been this excited about a dorama for quite some time.
Ooh I love Swing Girls! Every Juri lover should see it!
Just finished watching the first ep yesterday.. How great is Juri, huh? I love her!! She really knows what roles to take.. I haven't been this excited about a dorama for quite some time.
Ooh I love Swing Girls! Every Juri lover should see it!
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Hello guys! I finally have watched the full first episode and with subs. Thanks to suketeru@LJ
Now my thoughts
I just woke up and wrote this much. Last night after watching the episode i had much more in mind and lots to tell but i forgot. Weird is that even now after waking up i still have the creepy feeling the drama has created.
I'm sorry for writting that much
Now my thoughts
I'm sorry for writting that much
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At my thoughtsAlecsa-chan wrote:Hello guys! I finally have watched the full first episode and with subs. Thanks to suketeru@LJ
Now my thoughtsI just woke up and wrote this much. Last night after watching the episode i had much more in mind and lots to tell but i forgot. Weird is that even now after waking up i still have the creepy feeling the drama has created.
I'm sorry for writting that much
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Wow! Super good first episode! I think all of the actors/actresses are perfectly cast for their parts. Mizukawa Asami really adds a brightness to the drama, I really like her weirdness and the way she expresses her character. Ueno Juri is also playing quite a different character in this drama, and pulls it off perfectly; she's a great actress. And Eita is good(well, when isn't he good? haha), and his hairstyle is pretty weird, but cool.
I´ve just finish the first episode and i think it´s cool I like the actors, they are doing great job. My favourite character is Ruka so far, I kinda understand how must she feel, sticking out a bit from "normal" girl type. And all your theories makes me smile (I meen it in a good way ;o) )
Is it only me or do you also think that it´s stupid to ride cross/mountainbike in a city and put on that think which make it stand
Really enjoyed this first episode!! It's almost like a "Nodame" reuinion, but in a very different world. Should be an interesting season...
I'm trying to start up a blog with drama reviews and other stuff - I don't know if I'll continue it, but this drama was my first attempt at a review! If you're interested, take a look: http://tmijs.blogspot.com/
I'd love any comments!!!
Can't wait till the next episode!
I'm trying to start up a blog with drama reviews and other stuff - I don't know if I'll continue it, but this drama was my first attempt at a review! If you're interested, take a look: http://tmijs.blogspot.com/
I'd love any comments!!!
Can't wait till the next episode!
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@Belleza: Wow, some in-depth review.. Nice.
bmwracer and ^Yuuki: Where could I download all those clips of Masami and Juri doing some shows? Man I want them!
Jackiki: Just read your review.. man, spot on. I agree with you on so many points..
Thank you to whoever read whatever I just typed. TMI indeed.
On a side note, I just heart Prisoner of Love (and all the songs in Hikki's HEART STATION album, actually) It suits the dorama perfectly. I just love the opening song clip.. With the whiteness and everything. Especially when Juri screamed with the text "Agony".. Kyaa~
Jackiki: Just read your review.. man, spot on. I agree with you on so many points..
On a side note, I just heart Prisoner of Love (and all the songs in Hikki's HEART STATION album, actually) It suits the dorama perfectly. I just love the opening song clip.. With the whiteness and everything. Especially when Juri screamed with the text "Agony".. Kyaa~
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I am a Masami fan but I do agree that she just keeps playing the same roles over and over again. So far everything I have seen her in is... lovely girl a little bit stubborn, then her and her laugh. (Everyone should wait for Masami in The Hidden Fortress) I enjoy watching her actor though, she does make subtle changes in her roles. Maybe it is hard for her "look" to be casted in other outstanding/interesting role.
But too bad, she is popular in Japan, especially to mens in their 20s-30s. Apparently everyone wants to get marry with her. I agree, she has the Japanese qualities of a good wife, by her "public image"
I have to say Juri is doing great. The hair cut looks great. I love her character... so hot
But too bad, she is popular in Japan, especially to mens in their 20s-30s. Apparently everyone wants to get marry with her. I agree, she has the Japanese qualities of a good wife, by her "public image"
I have to say Juri is doing great. The hair cut looks great. I love her character... so hot
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Japanese female audience are nowadays love/hate with Masami (and I went through my "Aki!!!" phase too but she's WAY overexposed nowadays.) Whereas, uhh, they're "love to hate" with Erika-sama. If *she* played Michiru, the female audience would be cheering for Ryo. I'm really tickled to death that Juri and Masami get along so famously. I didn't think it was possible to put these two divas in the same show, let alone the same stageMany of the females on here seem to dislike Nagasawa Masami; I
@scherzando,
It's definitely one of her best albums. Certainly the most personal. Even now, Prisoner of Love makes me think more of her marriage than the show.On a side note, I just heart Prisoner of Love (and all the songs in Hikki's HEART STATION album, actually)
First off I just enjoyed reading everyone's opinion, theories and feeling towards the first episode. While I do agree with what everyone says about the complexity of these characters and I am also very excited with the cast...I must say that it wasn't as good as I expected it to be.
Phew....sorry for writing too much...I hope I made sense, but I just had to get that off my chest. Despite my "harsh" or nit picky opinion...I am still excited to see what and how this drama unfolds. I am just glad that this drama is stepping "beyond the boundaries"...where I hope it isn't there to to criticize, but to develop and open minds into these issues of relationships. Most of all I am very grateful to be on the boat ride with all of you. Can't wait to read and discuss the upcoming episodes with you all.
Oh, and thank you suketeru for soft subbing this first episode.
p.s. guess this ain't going to be something like Coffee Prince huh? Cuz I didn't laugh at a single scene at all
Oh, and thank you suketeru for soft subbing this first episode.
p.s. guess this ain't going to be something like Coffee Prince huh? Cuz I didn't laugh at a single scene at all
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Gosh this thread sure has grown a lot since I last posted! Everyone here anticipating ep2 that's gonna air in less than four hours? xD
I didn't know suketeru@LJ has soft-subbed ep1, that's awesome. And I accidentally read a bit of your spoiler, Alecsa-chan. I'm feeling kinda disturbed now. I think I'll still wait for Kioku's hardsubs to be released. Don't want to watch it over too much because it'll just grow stale on me. The last time I checked Kioku's page, they're 66.6% on editing, so hopefully it will be released within the next few days. *prays hard*
Someone posted a link to that variety show that a lot of people has been posting (and re-posting I think) the screencaps of... The clip can't load on YT. Can someone else care to re-post the link? Thanks in advance.
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Alecsa: No no, don't worry, you did put them under the spoiler tag. Just that I accidentally clicked on it and read the first few lines. LOL Eeee~ I'm itching for ep2 now. <_< That sounds weird. I think I'll just go shower now. *scuttles off*
I didn't know suketeru@LJ has soft-subbed ep1, that's awesome. And I accidentally read a bit of your spoiler, Alecsa-chan. I'm feeling kinda disturbed now. I think I'll still wait for Kioku's hardsubs to be released. Don't want to watch it over too much because it'll just grow stale on me. The last time I checked Kioku's page, they're 66.6% on editing, so hopefully it will be released within the next few days. *prays hard*
Someone posted a link to that variety show that a lot of people has been posting (and re-posting I think) the screencaps of... The clip can't load on YT. Can someone else care to re-post the link? Thanks in advance.
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Alecsa: No no, don't worry, you did put them under the spoiler tag. Just that I accidentally clicked on it and read the first few lines. LOL Eeee~ I'm itching for ep2 now. <_< That sounds weird. I think I'll just go shower now. *scuttles off*
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I'm really sorry. Where? Is it my fault?! i thought i used spoiler tagsuntitledmelody wrote:I didn't know suketeru@LJ has soft-subbed ep1, that's awesome. And I accidentally read a bit of your spoiler, Alecsa-chan. I'm feeling kinda disturbed now.
edit: i did use spoiler tags
edit2: ah ok i was feeling guilty.
Yeah~ Nice to see some great discussions going on here now that most have seen it with the soft-subs. My thoughts are pretty much along the same lines as belleza's. Masami Nagasawa might not be the chameleon that is Juri Ueno but she fits the role alright. And I thought her acting was decent enough. Juri still steals the show though. Don't think any other actress would have pulled it off as convincingly (seriously, playing a JE boy's enemy of love...^^;).
scherzando: Some of the links have been posted a few pages back so you might wanna check those out. The one I just posted though, is from Waratte Iitomo(not the Spring Special) episode on the 10th of April. I got it from a private community. I think there's at least 4 shows they went to promote that day. The rest should be up on youtube or veoh.
Episode 2 should be airing in Japan around this time. *waku,waku* =3
scherzando: Some of the links have been posted a few pages back so you might wanna check those out. The one I just posted though, is from Waratte Iitomo(not the Spring Special) episode on the 10th of April. I got it from a private community. I think there's at least 4 shows they went to promote that day. The rest should be up on youtube or veoh.
Episode 2 should be airing in Japan around this time. *waku,waku* =3
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This link doesn't work for me, the video won't load on YT. Does anyone know anywhere else that I can watch it? Did someone mention it's the Waratte Iitomo Spring Special? Just need to confirm so that I can d/l it from here at DA cos I think it has been uploaded.^Yuuki wrote:Ryo plays the 'contradiction' theme pretty well indeed. Like watching a train wreck, you can't tear your eyes off even though you know something bad is gonna happen. I can totally feel Michiru's uneasiness while trying to pretend like there's nothing wrong when she sees him going through her mails. I'm looking forward to the Sosuke/Michiru/Ruka face-off in the 2nd episode.
In the meantime, smile~
Yes, I agree that Juri steals the show in this drama, because of her contemplative character. She conveys her thoughts really well through her facial expressions, I can really feel her emotions. It's even more apparent in ep2.
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I've just finished it a moment ago, & what to say.. uhm I don't think there's much things to explore in this eps , uhm,
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You guys are fast! My connection is too bad to watch anything live...It appears that Ruka said something pretty nice in the episode...
untitledmelody: Yep. From Waratte Iitomo! Spring Special. I have no problem loading it. But that's only some of the compilation of scenes with 'Last Friends' from the show. It's on veoh in 3 parts too.
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Hi Ran!
^Yuuki: Thanks for the clarification. I guess it's no harm to d/l Waratte Iitomo since I'm following three dramas this season. xD About what Ruka said... I heard it but can't remember now... What's that kanji in the sentence?? LOL "My Michiru"... Sweet.
khaibest: Via live-streaming on programmes such as Keyhole TV or TVUPlayer.
khaibest: Via live-streaming on programmes such as Keyhole TV or TVUPlayer.
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Streaming links
http://fourlc.com/channel1/5/08fh/20080417_595.html
http://fourlc.com/channel1/5/08fh/20080417_596.html
@untitledmelody : I know, Asami is one of reasons I watch this drama so I'm little demanding, I guess lol
http://fourlc.com/channel1/5/08fh/20080417_595.html
http://fourlc.com/channel1/5/08fh/20080417_596.html
@untitledmelody : I know, Asami is one of reasons I watch this drama so I'm little demanding, I guess lol
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I saw 2nd chapter, but i couldn´t see all episode because i had go to hospital...snif snif..i wanted see it!!!! So interesting...Michiru is becoming more stronger..i love her!!!!! And of course i love Ruka (or ryuka i don´t know so well what´s the right name...) so lesbian, yeah!!! My japanese friends told me they love that serie heheh, i´m so happy, because i thought, kiss between girls....because anime or manga is normal but real (well series..) different ne?...so happy!!!!!
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If you wanna see japanese tv you can do:
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The first episode was so good that it left me speechless.
I wrote an entire character analyses and semi-review on my livejournal (which I'm too lazy to copy and paste here ^^;;) last night and felt that this series is definitely one that's worth waiting a week for the next episode.
Everyone's characters are so complex and I can't wait to see their development and how they will influence each other as the story progresses.
I wrote an entire character analyses and semi-review on my livejournal (which I'm too lazy to copy and paste here ^^;;) last night and felt that this series is definitely one that's worth waiting a week for the next episode.
Everyone's characters are so complex and I can't wait to see their development and how they will influence each other as the story progresses.
Basically it means "Don't touch my Michiru!!". I don't know in what condition it was uttered but possessive Juri-chan~ Me likey. =3 Unlike Sosuke's type of possessiveness, this was probably said while trying to protect Michiru instead of being jealous. Just hope it stays that way...but Michiru is making things hard ne~ Though I understand that it's really not that easy to escape from such a relationship if you already have issues to begin with...Well, still 9 more episode to go so of course it won't be that easy.^Yuuki: Thanks for the clarification. I guess it's no harm to d/l Waratte Iitomo since I'm following three dramas this season. xD About what Ruka said... I heard it but can't remember now... What's that kanji in the sentence?? LOL "My Michiru"... Sweet.
And about the debate on who's gonna die as indicated in ep.1's beginning....
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Cheers for the links!Nomanymore wrote:Streaming links
http://fourlc.com/channel1/5/08fh/20080417_595.html
http://fourlc.com/channel1/5/08fh/20080417_596.html
@untitledmelody : I know, Asami is one of reasons I watch this drama so I'm little demanding, I guess lol
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ah thanks for the clarifications and inputs, everyone
I hope new fans of Nishikido Ryo won't take his role as Oikawa Sosuke to heart and end up mixing up the two. I know lots of fans did that when they watch "1 Litre of Tears" and would mix up Ryo with "Haruto". =X
I have a friend who's determined to separate Ryo and his roles by calling him Sosuke when referring to this drama because she believes that Ryo is no longer "Ryo" but "Sosuke" there. I think I'll do the same because I don't want to associate Ryo-chan as anyone but himself, wells with the exception of his role as Sekino Hiroyuki (Sekki) but that's a different story.
I have a friend who's determined to separate Ryo and his roles by calling him Sosuke when referring to this drama because she believes that Ryo is no longer "Ryo" but "Sosuke" there. I think I'll do the same because I don't want to associate Ryo-chan as anyone but himself, wells with the exception of his role as Sekino Hiroyuki (Sekki) but that's a different story.
Ahh the week felt so long. Thank you so much Nomanymore! I can't believe how soon we are able to watch it. (Raw, that is.)
To Belleza on the J-drama/K-drama thing: IMO a lot simply has to do with how a K-drama is normally about twice as long as a J-drama (16 x 60min versus 11 x 45min), so the story doesn't start settling until ep3 or 4. It's probably also got to do with their broadcast schedules: it's so important for a J-drama to capture as big an audience and as much attention as possible with the pilot, whereas 2 eps of a K-drama are shown every week. I can see why some folks thought things were kind of rushed in ep1, but I was comfortable with it.
Pacing is such a strange thing. Last season's Bara no nai hanaya felt fast because it was deliberately edited in a choppy way and it sounded like everyone was cutting into everyone else's sentences. The plot actually advanced far more gradually. Apart from whether you like the story or not, the staff certainly did a fantastic job creating that illusion.
Ep2:
To Belleza on the J-drama/K-drama thing: IMO a lot simply has to do with how a K-drama is normally about twice as long as a J-drama (16 x 60min versus 11 x 45min), so the story doesn't start settling until ep3 or 4. It's probably also got to do with their broadcast schedules: it's so important for a J-drama to capture as big an audience and as much attention as possible with the pilot, whereas 2 eps of a K-drama are shown every week. I can see why some folks thought things were kind of rushed in ep1, but I was comfortable with it.
Pacing is such a strange thing. Last season's Bara no nai hanaya felt fast because it was deliberately edited in a choppy way and it sounded like everyone was cutting into everyone else's sentences. The plot actually advanced far more gradually. Apart from whether you like the story or not, the staff certainly did a fantastic job creating that illusion.
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That's especially true nowadays , since it seems much more rare now for shows to build on ratings from the first episode. Probably should be noted that this episode, like many pilots, ran about 15 minutes longer than the other episodes would run. A lot of things were introduced into the story. I think it would be kinda shame if most of the episodes ran below 10.It's probably also got to do with their broadcast schedules: it's so important for a J-drama to capture as big an audience and as much attention as possible with the pilot, whereas 2 eps of a K-drama are shown every week.
Yeah, that could be a signature style of this director. He also worked on Bara No Hai Hanaya and Galileo; the connection with the latter seems more clear when you think about how the Michiru/Ryo scenes were shot and edited. Given the casting, the show probably has a plus production budget, which would also make for a more stylish show. The tracking shots in this show were just out of this world!Pacing is such a strange thing. Last season's Bara no nai hanaya felt fast because it was deliberately edited in a choppy way and it sounded like everyone was cutting into everyone else's sentences.
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thanks lzydata for the great recap of episode 2.
I was skimming through it but since I tend to get lost without subtitles, your summary was a great help in understanding it further.
According to suketeru @ lj, she's considering soft subbing episode 2 as well~
http://suketeru.livejournal.com/23111.h ... 31#t175431
Her subs for episode 1 were pretty great between~ But I'm still grabbing Kioku's hardsub version when it gets released.
Call me crazy, but I tend to collect my dramas RAW with soft subtitles AND the hardsubbed versions when a Fansub group picks them up.
I was skimming through it but since I tend to get lost without subtitles, your summary was a great help in understanding it further.
http://suketeru.livejournal.com/23111.h ... 31#t175431
Her subs for episode 1 were pretty great between~ But I'm still grabbing Kioku's hardsub version when it gets released.
Call me crazy, but I tend to collect my dramas RAW with soft subtitles AND the hardsubbed versions when a Fansub group picks them up.
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I should go encourage her, I really think her subs were great. I was very impressed, it was very good. <scoots over to suketeru's page>lilswtangel wrote:
According to suketeru @ lj, she's considering soft subbing episode 2 as well~
http://suketeru.livejournal.com/23111.h ... 31#t175431
Her subs for episode 1 were pretty great between~ But I'm still grabbing Kioku's hardsub version when it gets released.
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Here are my thoughts on episode 1:
Nishikido Ryo...all I have to say about him is....LEARN TO WALK PROPERLY! What is up with these JE kids? I first noticed his "walk" in the Ichi Rittoru no Namida drama, but it became GLARINGLY obvious in the Ichi Rittoru no Namida special where he played the "doctor". He walks like he thinks he's a friggin' model. I mean, I understand that in JE you have to do everything you can to be noticed, but if he's serious about becoming an actor he has to BECOME these characters. And a doctor doesn't walk the way he does. Nor would a child welfare worker walk like a runway model ^^;
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LOL.oceansportrait wrote:Nishikido Ryo...all I have to say about him is....LEARN TO WALK PROPERLY! What is up with these JE kids? I first noticed his "walk" in the Ichi Rittoru no Namida drama, but it became GLARINGLY obvious in the Ichi Rittoru no Namida special where he played the "doctor". He walks like he thinks he's a friggin' model. I mean, I understand that in JE you have to do everything you can to be noticed, but if he's serious about becoming an actor he has to BECOME these characters. And a doctor doesn't walk the way he does. Nor would a child welfare worker walk like a runway model ^^;
There's one of your differences between actors (Juri-chan) and wannabes (Ryo).
Thanks lilswtangel. I'm glad my recap helped even though it's totally incomplete and biased As a fellow watcher I know the feeling of anticipation all too well, but as a subber (I'm doing Edison no haha now) I also realize it's hard to do subs quick and well unless you're already obsessed with the drama. So kudos to Kioku and suketeru.
Maybe I'm just elitist, but in my experience ratings aren't really helpful in determining whether you will like a show or not, unless they're very very high (in which case you should check it out, if only to know what the fuss is about) or very very low (in which case the drama probably does suck). But isn't it amazing that the ratings for Last Friends are picking up?
Nishikido Ryo's walking: I guess in ep1 I wasn't really paying attention to his character (before the DV), but it's just like oceansportrait and someone before said. Maybe the director is wising up; I don't recall any Sousuke walking scenes in ep2. Good enough for him to look scary standing there in the street staring up at Michiru, like he's there the whole day.
belleza wrote:That's especially true nowadays , since it seems much more rare now for shows to build on ratings from the first episode. Probably should be noted that this episode, like many pilots, ran about 15 minutes longer than the other episodes would run. A lot of things were introduced into the story. I think it would be kinda shame if most of the episodes ran below 10.
Yeah belleza, I should have mentioned the 15-min topup thing. Heck, Iryu 2's pilot was two and a half hours.bakababa wrote:Another awesome episode!
And...the rating is UP !!! to 15.9% now. I hope it's going to be higher and higher, over 20% !!!
Maybe I'm just elitist, but in my experience ratings aren't really helpful in determining whether you will like a show or not, unless they're very very high (in which case you should check it out, if only to know what the fuss is about) or very very low (in which case the drama probably does suck). But isn't it amazing that the ratings for Last Friends are picking up?
Nishikido Ryo's walking: I guess in ep1 I wasn't really paying attention to his character (before the DV), but it's just like oceansportrait and someone before said. Maybe the director is wising up; I don't recall any Sousuke walking scenes in ep2. Good enough for him to look scary standing there in the street staring up at Michiru, like he's there the whole day.
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Wow, so many 'commentaries'. Is it just me or is this drama surrounded by more hype than usual dramas? The Japanese studios should produce more controversial plots then. xD
^Yuuki: Thanks for the clarification about that line. Yes, Ruka's obsessiveness is different from Sousuke's.
About Ruka and her body, does anyone think she is going/went for a sex change operation? I know that sounds really far-fetched but if it was some other problem concerning urology, I don't think it'd actually be embarrassing to share a changing room with other people. Actually, I thought that the reason why Ruka looked uncomfortable in the changing room was because she was harassed by her trainer, like someone mentioned before here.
On Ryo's walking: LOL Yes I also noticed his model-ish gait in ep2... Not so much ep1 though. And yes in the 1 Litre of Tears SP, it was really obvious because he was filmed walking along outside the hospital building. Yeah JE boys were trained to walk that way, you seen the same thing in MatsuJun's walking and also YamaPi's (though his is considerably less obvious).
bmwracer: Whoaaa Isn't calling Ryo a wannabe kinda taking it a bit too far? Though I'm his fan so I might be biased (haha)... Still, he's doing a good job as Sousuke. My take is he's just conditioned to walk like that and it's hard to break such habits. It takes more effort, so maybe it'll be better as the drama progresses.
lilswtangel: I should shake hands with your friend. I tell myself to disassociate Ryo from his characters as well, especially Sousuke. That's why I'm always referring to him as Sousuke when talking about him in the drama. In fact I tend to do that with other actors too (when I do remember their character's name. =P)
What drama was it that Ryo acted as 'Sekki'?
^Yuuki: Thanks for the clarification about that line. Yes, Ruka's obsessiveness is different from Sousuke's.
About Ruka and her body, does anyone think she is going/went for a sex change operation? I know that sounds really far-fetched but if it was some other problem concerning urology, I don't think it'd actually be embarrassing to share a changing room with other people. Actually, I thought that the reason why Ruka looked uncomfortable in the changing room was because she was harassed by her trainer, like someone mentioned before here.
On Ryo's walking: LOL Yes I also noticed his model-ish gait in ep2... Not so much ep1 though. And yes in the 1 Litre of Tears SP, it was really obvious because he was filmed walking along outside the hospital building. Yeah JE boys were trained to walk that way, you seen the same thing in MatsuJun's walking and also YamaPi's (though his is considerably less obvious).
bmwracer: Whoaaa Isn't calling Ryo a wannabe kinda taking it a bit too far? Though I'm his fan so I might be biased (haha)... Still, he's doing a good job as Sousuke. My take is he's just conditioned to walk like that and it's hard to break such habits. It takes more effort, so maybe it'll be better as the drama progresses.
lilswtangel: I should shake hands with your friend. I tell myself to disassociate Ryo from his characters as well, especially Sousuke. That's why I'm always referring to him as Sousuke when talking about him in the drama. In fact I tend to do that with other actors too (when I do remember their character's name. =P)
What drama was it that Ryo acted as 'Sekki'?
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@untitledmelody: I think it's great that you are able to disassociate an actor from his/her roles. Not many people can and I can honestly admit that there have been once or twice when I ended up hating on an actress/actor for the villainous roles she/he portrayed.
Sekki (Ryo) is the main character from the jdrama, "Ganbatte Ikimasshoi". It also stars Uchi Hiroki (ep 1-2 before he got suspended) and then Taguchi Junnosuke (ep 3-10 replacing Uchi).
PrettyBoysFansubs subbed it and they used to be available on Dara's Nishikido Ryo site (Ryotan.net) and her PBF site but they are currently closed so you can grab the downloads over at her livejournal: http://dontcallmeboo.livejournal.com/
sorry for being off-topic everyone~
Sekki (Ryo) is the main character from the jdrama, "Ganbatte Ikimasshoi". It also stars Uchi Hiroki (ep 1-2 before he got suspended) and then Taguchi Junnosuke (ep 3-10 replacing Uchi).
PrettyBoysFansubs subbed it and they used to be available on Dara's Nishikido Ryo site (Ryotan.net) and her PBF site but they are currently closed so you can grab the downloads over at her livejournal: http://dontcallmeboo.livejournal.com/
sorry for being off-topic everyone~
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Just finished watching ep2..
Hands down to Juri.. Man this girl is awesome!
@Izydata: There's a heart arrow from Michiru to Takeru? Seriously? *too lazy to check* Ooh.. so we ain't seen nothin' yet, huh? Still a lot more twists and turns to see..
That was Candy? Why did it look like some cheap movie? : (Heath.. may he rest in peace)
I agree that good actors should know and be aware of what they are capable of and should choose roles that suit them. Of course they have to look for challenges, but if the role doesn't suit the actor, then, shikata ga nai wa.. Being a good actor doesn't mean he should play a difficult role just because it is difficult, ne? He should know whether he suits the role or not..
LOL. Thank god people noticed his catwalk too! I didn't really pay attention to it on the first ep, but his strut became more obvious on the second ep! Man, he has got to stop it! It kinda reminded me of Kimura Takuya (who I lovelovelove). I'm a huge fan and I might be biased, I think he's a wonderful actor but sometimes he couldn't keep his idol image behind too. In Karei Naru Ichizoku, he kinda strut and I just wanted to scream "Act, damnit! You're Manpyo Teppei now!"bmwracer wrote: There's one of your differences between actors (Juri-chan) and wannabes (Ryo).
Hands down to Juri.. Man this girl is awesome!
@Izydata: There's a heart arrow from Michiru to Takeru? Seriously? *too lazy to check* Ooh.. so we ain't seen nothin' yet, huh? Still a lot more twists and turns to see..
That was Candy? Why did it look like some cheap movie? : (Heath.. may he rest in peace)
I agree that good actors should know and be aware of what they are capable of and should choose roles that suit them. Of course they have to look for challenges, but if the role doesn't suit the actor, then, shikata ga nai wa.. Being a good actor doesn't mean he should play a difficult role just because it is difficult, ne? He should know whether he suits the role or not..
Yea what's the story behind that brief marriage? IMO ever since Deep River, Utada continued to make great, solid albums. I didn't listen to Exodus (does it really suck?), but I just love Deep River, Ultra Blue and, of course, Heart Station. Sorry, OOT.belleza wrote: Certainly the most personal. Even now, Prisoner of Love makes me think more of her marriage than the show.
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