[Discussion] Ryusei no Kizuna - Nino, Ryo, Toda Erika
though I didn't understand that much when I watched it (my Japanese still sucks) I thought it was not that bad. Actually I didn't have much of an idea what this drama is about (just read the drama wiki description) but I also thought it'd somehow be dark. But I myself am pretty relieved that it's not too dark and depressing, and I like the main cast for some reason, though some may argue that they're not acting well at all %DD I love them anyway... ...): Going to watch it till the end! (and watch the first ep again as soon as subs are available...)
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You can use timing posted in the topic Ryusei no Kizuna Ep 1 Raw http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopi ... tm#1106725 for time saving. I have tried and it is good.Kakijun wrote:Alright then I'll do my best at soft subbing this. I hope the HD one is released soon.
Do you need some help from others? I can not translate with my poor Japanese but I know typesetting and a litle bit timing
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Yep. It's illegal to ride double on a bike in Japan. I don't think I can even count how many times I rode double on a bike when I was growing up, so it's always struck me as pretty weird for that to be illegal somewhere. Especially when Japan doesn't even have a helmet law for bikes, as far as I know.Ladymercury wrote:Well, isn't that type of riding illegal in Japan anyway? lolyanie wrote:Yeah, I was surprised, I thought it was a "this drama is fiction" warning, but it shouldnt be that long so I paused and read it, and apparently it was about the bicycle! Maybe the bicycle accidents increased in Tokyo lately x)
Looking forward to the first episode. (My download's at 66%) I haven't been expecting it to really be dark, so I'll just have to see how the show strikes me.
I'll post it in the subtitles forum. Currently at 20ish percent(Long episode). I'll see if I can finish it quickly.SaKuRaKu wrote:.Alright then I'll do my best at soft subbing this. I hope the HD one is released soon
good luck !!
waiting for yours so badly , cuz i haven't watched it yet
so where will you post it ??
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lynchmob72 wrote:This drama sounds pretty good. I was hoping for a couple of darker/serious dramas. This and Bloody Monday will be eating up some bandwith for a while.
Not to mention, i thought Kaname Jun was hilarious in " Kimi Hannin Janai yo ne? ".
Kaname Jun = He was hilarious in "Kimi Hannin Janai yo ne?". I also really liked him in Tantei Gakuen Q and thought he was wonderful (and extremely smexy) in Ashita no Kita Yoshio. He's become one of my favorite actors in the past year as a result primarily of Ashita and KimiHan. So his presence in Ryusei certainly didn't hurt my decision to watch it. ;)
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yanie wrote:Just wondering, was Kudo Kankuro's previous work, IWGP, was also something like this? A mix of mystery and comedy?
yes,it is! n i think it really worth to watch♥!
when i read the sypnosis 'bout IWGP it's looks like a dark drama but when i watch it by myself it turn out a comedy drama but a dark aura it's still there like RnK (i think )
so i will love to continue to watch RnK although many people dislike this (sory my english is bad )
Yeah, I'd say the mix of dark, mystery, comedy is pretty similar between RnK and IWGP. That series is a classic, and I was really happy to have a similar feel here. I really enjoyed the first episode, and the comedy kept me from feeling like this was going to be treated like "the Nino version of Maou"... something I'd been a little afraid of when this series was announced.
Yeah, definitely not what I expected it to be, but I didn't enjoy it any less! Thought it would be darker but I love the comedy and light-heartedness to it all. Especially Ryo's character, missed his silly self during Last Friends. I think he's got to be the funniest sibling. Plus, it's great to see Nino again.
Well I'll continue to watch it. I really enjoyed the first episode~
Well I'll continue to watch it. I really enjoyed the first episode~
The first rating's episode is:
21.2%
Wow!! Very, very, very unexpected for me! I was expecting around 14%-15% for the first ep. Considering another Arashi's member's mystery drama, Maou, was 14%. Higashino Keigo's Byakuyakou, KudoKan's IWGP and others are also abt 14-15%.
I guess the "Higashino Keigo x Kudo Kankuro" promos worked alot. Maybe 21.2% is Higashino's fans, KudoKan's fans, Nino's fans, Ryo's fans and Erika's fans joined all together
I won't expect much for the next ep's rating though.
21.2%
Wow!! Very, very, very unexpected for me! I was expecting around 14%-15% for the first ep. Considering another Arashi's member's mystery drama, Maou, was 14%. Higashino Keigo's Byakuyakou, KudoKan's IWGP and others are also abt 14-15%.
I guess the "Higashino Keigo x Kudo Kankuro" promos worked alot. Maybe 21.2% is Higashino's fans, KudoKan's fans, Nino's fans, Ryo's fans and Erika's fans joined all together
I won't expect much for the next ep's rating though.
So just watched the first episode. Well it's certainly unexpected but quite good in its own way. Yah, I also thought it would be a dark drama like Byakuyakou from reading the synopsis, but after watching the first epi ... I did like the comedy stuff (haha with the manga add-ons .) Also Nino-san being teased for being freaky by Ryo and Erika's characters. It was also nice to see Ryo-san's smiling face again because his role in Last Friends just made me angry.
But what got annoying is Erika's character since she acts as another easily fooled girl like in Liar Game. She got so annoying in that show so I hope she'll improve in this.
This show will get darker right? Well because the last 5 minutes hinted on that at least. I've never read the novel so I'm trying not to judge the drama from the first episode. Will wait for more to come out.
But what got annoying is Erika's character since she acts as another easily fooled girl like in Liar Game. She got so annoying in that show so I hope she'll improve in this.
This show will get darker right? Well because the last 5 minutes hinted on that at least. I've never read the novel so I'm trying not to judge the drama from the first episode. Will wait for more to come out.
watched the first episode just now...
with rating that high, impossible for me to miss it...
first of all, i'm very thankful that kankuro kudo's involved in this, bcause though it's a bit silly (yes, the "letters from canada" part is plain silly), i kinda like it rather if it is just another dark dramas...
when it comes to kankuro kudo... weird=good...
other than that, nino is awesome.. before i wasn't convinced of him being the oldest brother, but he did a great job portraying the pitiful character...
and.. and.. mika nakashima is in this? hmm.. that's new news for me....
i think i'm getting hooked with this drama...
with rating that high, impossible for me to miss it...
first of all, i'm very thankful that kankuro kudo's involved in this, bcause though it's a bit silly (yes, the "letters from canada" part is plain silly), i kinda like it rather if it is just another dark dramas...
when it comes to kankuro kudo... weird=good...
other than that, nino is awesome.. before i wasn't convinced of him being the oldest brother, but he did a great job portraying the pitiful character...
and.. and.. mika nakashima is in this? hmm.. that's new news for me....
i think i'm getting hooked with this drama...
The first episode was so good. Tho the light atmosphere was really weird considering that they're supposed to be hunting down a guy that killed their parents. What's weirder is that I thought it was funnier than most jdrama comedies out there. So... don't really know what to expect from the rest of the series, but I'll be definitely watching this.
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Some of her roles really annoy me. I'd have loved to see Fujiki Naohito drop her off the roof in the beginning of Gal Circle, for example. But this seems like a role I can really like her in. (I liked her in Ushi ni Negai wo, and I really enjoyed her story in this spring's Yonimo Kimyona Monogatari too.) That little girl playing young Shii really does a great job, imo. She really manages to match Toda's acting, and it really impressed me.
All in all, this is shaping up to be an excellent drama. If it stays with a similar mix to IWGP, it'll have plenty of dark stuff. I don't think there was ever and episode of IWGP that didn't make me laugh at some point though. You'd usually switch between the dark and the bizzarrely hilarious a few times each episode, but sometimes things got serious.
All in all, this is shaping up to be an excellent drama. If it stays with a similar mix to IWGP, it'll have plenty of dark stuff. I don't think there was ever and episode of IWGP that didn't make me laugh at some point though. You'd usually switch between the dark and the bizzarrely hilarious a few times each episode, but sometimes things got serious.
Yes, he is. I thought he looked familiar when I first started watching the episode, but it took me a while to place him.Goodnessgracious wrote:I am watching episode 1 right now. Isn't one of the child actors (the one who plays an older brother) the same that played Kamenashi Kazuya's little brother in Tatta Hitotsu no Koi?
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I enjoyed the first episode quite a bit. I was wary about Kudokan being the scriptwriter, since I know it's either you love his stuff or hate his stuff (and I've never seen one of his dramas before), but I really enjoyed it. I think that some of the writing was trying a little too hard to be funny and kinda failed, but overall I thought it was pretty good. And the source material itself seems really interesting, so I can only imagine that it would get better from here. (I enjoyed the drama versions of both Galileo and Byakuyakou, so hopefully this will be another hit for me... So far it is.)
Ryuusei no Kizuna mistake
Hi there, Maybe i'm watching too much detective drama lol but i saw a big mistake in Ryuusei no kizuna.
In the first episode, The killer got away with his unbrella in his hand while Taisuke saw him.
But in the second episode the unbrella was inside the house in a bucket where the killer left it when he first got in the house to kill there parents.
Or maybe he got away with the family unbrella instead of his.
Since we dont have subtitles yet for the second episode i dont really know witch theorie to keep in mind.
In the first episode, The killer got away with his unbrella in his hand while Taisuke saw him.
But in the second episode the unbrella was inside the house in a bucket where the killer left it when he first got in the house to kill there parents.
Or maybe he got away with the family unbrella instead of his.
Since we dont have subtitles yet for the second episode i dont really know witch theorie to keep in mind.
There are already subs for the second episode , thanks to incredibly fast Kakijun
I must say I really like the drama so far, though I was expecting something diffrent I love that mix of mystery & humour
I must say I really like the drama so far, though I was expecting something diffrent I love that mix of mystery & humour
Second episode was fun, so hopefully this kudo kankuro's work is going to be awesome as wellfurransu wrote:kudo kankuro's previous work was awesome.. Mirai Koshi Meguru, a mix of mystery and comedy and weirdness~~
The first episode kinda felt it was all over the place it was a mix of drama, comedy, mystery. Maybe it was because I went into this series thinking it would be a serious drama kinda hard not too when you read the plot summary for the drama and watch the first several minutes of the first episode. So I was caught by suprise it had comedy, not sure if that's a good thing because it kinda hurt the serious parts then suddenly it gets into the comedy. Overall still not sure what to think of this series but I know it was good enough to watch keep watching.
I agree that the drama is still a bit all over the place, and the comedy parts are still freaking me out (tho the weirdest part for me is the opening song, which is... pretty light), but I'm still in spazz-mode with this drama which is a lot considering we're already in episode 2 (my spazz usually lasts until the end of epi 1).
Anyway, what I was afraid of was that the episodes were going to be formulaic
Anyway, what I was afraid of was that the episodes were going to be formulaic
I can understand that so many japanese are disappointed with this drama, like me. The book is great, deep and heavy - a true masterpiece. But the director makes everything so lighthearted, stupid and shallow. Drama sucks thinking about what it could have been, they should have let the byakuyako-director take care of this one. Biggest drama-disappointment in years.
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I agree, I think if it was too serious it would be a bit like Kurosagi, maybe, though then again I do agree that's it's not really doing the book justice, but it is just startingKuroSawa wrote:
I must say I really like the drama so far, though I was expecting something diffrent I love that mix of mystery & humour
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Ishii Yasuharu is one of the directors. He directed Byakuyakou and I think will be directing the "deep and heavy" parts of the series, so chill. The show just started. The current director is the person who have worked with Kudo Kankuro previous masterpieces and I think is trying to inject the Kudokan humor into Hagashiso-san's work. Its working (and I'm loving it). Higashino-san even agrees that the book and drama are different platforms to tell the story. I think he likes how his story is progressing in the drama (from what I read).Romance wrote:I can understand that so many japanese are disappointed with this drama, like me. The book is great, deep and heavy - a true masterpiece. But the director makes everything so lighthearted, stupid and shallow. Drama sucks thinking about what it could have been, they should have let the byakuyako-director take care of this one. Biggest drama-disappointment in years.
I love how natural the siblings were. It reminded me of me and my brothers
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frankly speaking, sometime i don't quite get the humour part. i don't see the link between that and the main objective of the 3 siblings (ie. to find the killer and revenge).
but then again, i am allegic to dramas with excessive heavy, dark themes about revenge and killing... so i am not sure if what i am seeing now from epi 1 and 2 is a good thing.... the drama so far has failed to 'set the mood' that i should be expecting from the show... kinda confusing...
but then again, i am allegic to dramas with excessive heavy, dark themes about revenge and killing... so i am not sure if what i am seeing now from epi 1 and 2 is a good thing.... the drama so far has failed to 'set the mood' that i should be expecting from the show... kinda confusing...
I've only seen the first episode, but I already love it. But I'm a big Kudo Kankuro fan, so take that as you want.
I think the humour works pretty well. It somehow doesn't feel forced, and it's a better way to give some depth to the character's relations that a standard melodramatic monologue contest. Prime example was that Koichi-Taisuke-Hayashi scene, showed that Taisuke is totally comfortable with Hayashi and that he clashes with Koichi like father and son would. And the one liner about being a caretaker or something wouldn't have hit me so hard if it hadn't been after some funny scenes. I can see why people are disappointed, but you should've seen this coming by only reading KudoKan's name, and I for one am glad it's not one big emofest.
I think the humour works pretty well. It somehow doesn't feel forced, and it's a better way to give some depth to the character's relations that a standard melodramatic monologue contest. Prime example was that Koichi-Taisuke-Hayashi scene, showed that Taisuke is totally comfortable with Hayashi and that he clashes with Koichi like father and son would. And the one liner about being a caretaker or something wouldn't have hit me so hard if it hadn't been after some funny scenes. I can see why people are disappointed, but you should've seen this coming by only reading KudoKan's name, and I for one am glad it's not one big emofest.
I'm a KudoKan fan too, and I love what he's done here. I've seen plenty of "serious" and standard dramas in this vein, so I'm enjoying the mixture of humor that's been infused into RnK. It keeps the drama distinctly different, imo. And for me the humor works wonderfully. Tai's speech in episode 2 pretty much put my feelings about the humor into words.
For people having trouble pinning down the mood, I do suggest trying IWGP. There is a similar feel (Mirai Koshi Meguru is much lighter). It might help you with pinning down the humor/drama balance here to see a complete KudoKan series.
Also, I'm loving the title parodies in Nino's "scripts". The Letters from Canada/Letters from Iwo Jima bit made me grin, but the Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi (Anoymous Section Chief Tadano Htoshi)/Delusional Section Chief Takayama Hisonobu one is truly an inspired and a hilariously fitting choice.
I have my own suspicions about the murderer, since episode 1.
Also, I'm loving the title parodies in Nino's "scripts". The Letters from Canada/Letters from Iwo Jima bit made me grin, but the Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi (Anoymous Section Chief Tadano Htoshi)/Delusional Section Chief Takayama Hisonobu one is truly an inspired and a hilariously fitting choice.
I have my own suspicions about the murderer, since episode 1.
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I also gotta say that I love this series. I'm a very big KudoKan fan (all the series that he wrote are top in my favorite dramas list). I aspire to become a scriptwriter and he's my idol.
For the people who are not familiar with his work this mixture of comedy/drama might seem weird and they may get confused by the humor (which is classic KudoKan and makes me laugh like crazy every time). But personally I think it works out great. Being bizzare is a big plus.
And I think it manages to portray very well the bond between the siblings which is actually the focus of the story (not the revenge part). The title itself says it: Kizuna = Bonds.
What more can I say... You'll either love or hate it depending on what you were expecting to see.
For the people who are not familiar with his work this mixture of comedy/drama might seem weird and they may get confused by the humor (which is classic KudoKan and makes me laugh like crazy every time). But personally I think it works out great. Being bizzare is a big plus.
And I think it manages to portray very well the bond between the siblings which is actually the focus of the story (not the revenge part). The title itself says it: Kizuna = Bonds.
What more can I say... You'll either love or hate it depending on what you were expecting to see.
Personally I find the "confusing" (I rather call it random) parts interesting to watch. It's a Kudokan "style" (I think), and for those watching his works for the 1st time I can empathize with the confusion; I remember watching Kisarazu Cat's Eye feeling the same.
Anyway watching up till ep2, I'm quite impressed with the balance between the plot, the randomness and the humor. Especially the timeline-jumping parts, I find it very interesting how the past has been unfolded each time. The flashback scenes look "jumpy" but the frequency of bringing back the past seems quite consistent and it's becoming like a style in itself.
And the humor, OMG I think the silliness is just intoxicating. The "Delusional Chief Clerk" part, for example, is just plain awesome. I don't know, maybe goofy humor's not everyone's cup of tea.
Lastly, regarding the comments about the show straying away from its original flavor; I think with Kudokan's involvement, one cannot really expect anything purely serious. Personally I think my ignorance (with the novel) is allowing me to enjoy the show more than those with a certain purist expectation (and I'm glad I'm the former).
Anyway watching up till ep2, I'm quite impressed with the balance between the plot, the randomness and the humor. Especially the timeline-jumping parts, I find it very interesting how the past has been unfolded each time. The flashback scenes look "jumpy" but the frequency of bringing back the past seems quite consistent and it's becoming like a style in itself.
And the humor, OMG I think the silliness is just intoxicating. The "Delusional Chief Clerk" part, for example, is just plain awesome. I don't know, maybe goofy humor's not everyone's cup of tea.
Lastly, regarding the comments about the show straying away from its original flavor; I think with Kudokan's involvement, one cannot really expect anything purely serious. Personally I think my ignorance (with the novel) is allowing me to enjoy the show more than those with a certain purist expectation (and I'm glad I'm the former).
I have to agree I love the humour, it's just so random, it's hard not to love. I think it's gonna be one of those dramas which can make you laugh one second and then practically cry [maybe?] the next minute. Iunno but I know that I love this so far, even if it is confusingly random and leaves me lost at parts
Sakurai Storm has released a very good quality of hardsub and softsub for Ep1, you can get it here:ichinose wrote:is there any good quality hardsub for this drama recommended?
or is there any good subbing group doing it?
http://arashiforum.110mb.com/index.php?topic=458.0
But the thread is locked to registered users with at least 1 post.
STORMY and AkiraShock are working together for hardsubs, too. But no release yet.
For softsub choices:
Kakijun^^
Icefight
AkuSub [AkuSub is the fastest (released on Sundays, so far, just 2 days after each ep aired), and it's a good quality of .ASS softsub too.]
Arashi@Vox subs it too, but not sure whether its hardsub or softsub.
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http://www.dramacrazy.net/v/japanese-dr ... no-kizuna/ichinose wrote:is there any good quality hardsub for this drama recommended?
or is there any good subbing group doing it?
They're subbing this and it's not in too many parts either, unlike mysoju
You probably mean they're stealing other people's hard work and claiming it's theirs.NuDrive wrote:
http://www.dramacrazy.net/v/japanese-dr ... no-kizuna/
They're subbing this and it's not in too many parts either, unlike mysoju
More than one person has already commented on this. Some people love the humor, other people hate it. I agree that the humor is a bit weird, but personally I'm loving it.Romance wrote:Alright, I've already written two whine-posts but let me just ask you one more question. Don't you guys really think that the extremly whacky humor really is out of place in this drama?
And there's nothing really that we can do about it. If you don't like it, you can always choose not to watch this. But it's just been two epis, who knows what they got in store for us.
don't know what you want to achieve with posting whining posts....Romance wrote:Alright, I've already written two whine-posts but let me just ask you one more question. Don't you guys really think that the extremly whacky humor really is out of place in this drama?
but I'll try answering your question anyways ^^.
The humor was hilarious, appropriate and helps emphasize the Ariake bond. It made me feel all warm and fuzzy watching those 3 siblings. I think each gag (?.. er.. eg: Togami's Hayashi Rice, Koichi awkwardness, George-san sudden outburst etc, etc) blends well with the story. After the awesome 2nd episode, I'm looking forward to the swindling drama
The angst is still there.
It works for me. Loving the Lupin III Theme-like music in the 2nd ep's swindling plot^^Romance wrote:Alright, I've already written two whine-posts but let me just ask you one more question. Don't you guys really think that the extremly whacky humor really is out of place in this drama?
The only thing doesn't work for me, is the themesong... still
Agreed. I'm not sure if it's just that I don't like the song or that it doesn't fit the drama. I'm usually pretty nonchalant about theme songs, I don't usually like them or the band that performs them, but I don't hate them either. This time it really bothers me.yanie wrote:
The only thing doesn't work for me, is the themesong... still
I third that one!chokubi wrote:You're not the only one.yanie wrote:Loving the Lupin III Theme-like music in the 2nd ep's swindling plot^^
I love the extremely whacky humor in this drama, and I do find it appropriate. If someone can combine a dark mystery with this kind of whacky humor... well, they have earned my love forever. I also agree that the humor emphasized the Ariake syblings' bond for me.Alright, I've already written two whine-posts but let me just ask you one more question. Don't you guys really think that the extremly whacky humor really is out of place in this drama?
It's hard when a drama you want to like doesn't work out to be enjoyable for you. Happened to me with Zettai Kareshi, and sometimes you just have to walk away from a series that doesn't work for you. (And do whatever venting helps you on things like blogs or worst drama threads...)
Agreed. I'm not sure if it's just that I don't like the song or that it doesn't fit the drama. I'm usually pretty nonchalant about theme songs, I don't usually like them or the band that performs them, but I don't hate them either. This time it really bothers me.The only thing doesn't work for me, is the themesong... still
While I like the song itself (yeah, I'm an Arashi fan), it's always a bit of a strange transition into it for me. Maybe if they didn't seem to always jump into it from one of the sad flashbacks, it might not seem as awkward. It's like when I watched Long Love Letter. I like the song Loveland Island, but it always seemed an odd fit to the series.
are we still comparing the drama with the books.. because then i have no idea ..Romance wrote:Alright, I've already written two whine-posts but let me just ask you one more question. Don't you guys really think that the extremly whacky humor really is out of place in this drama?
the books is just a masterpiece of its own, but this drama has kudo kankuro written all over it.. so having a wacky humor is kinda acceptable.. imo, though..
about the theme song, it kinda grew on me though.. besides, i love the opening...
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