[Discussion] Naka nai to Kimeta Hi - Eikura Nana
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i find it so strange how some of us are so sure about nakahara x miki and their love for eachother and how deep it is after just twp eps. maye love is blind for real and our fangirling side does not let us think otherwise.
and thanks for posting the correlation chart. my nihongo is not good enough to read but what those words with ? on miki and nakahara's relation arrows? and is there any reason for putting nakahara picture much furthur than Seiji's? or am i just reading too much into it.
but what will happen in future eps has everything to do with that "fact". people always change. the same goes for nakahara and seiji. if for example, nakahara turned to be a person who cares more about his job/his family status (remember that he does not know that miki is coming from a poor background and tachibana is a rich girl, and also his mother influence on him might be too strong and he does not stand up to her, or starts ignoring her after tachibana spreads the rumours about them going out together all over to keep his image and position....). the possibilites are endless.
at the end of the day, we have to remember that is only 2eps and so much to come.
so now is miki's fault for getting abused and not telling him? on the top of all of her problems, she also has to suffer the disappintment of her boyfriend and gets rejected by him because she did not tell him? nakahara has to know that she is getting bullied. in fact, i was suprised that he found out that her bag was dumped in a bin and did not tell anyone about it. it was clearly a sign of abuse and bully. not to mention not going after tachibana as she was the one who said "miki has left earlier" not to forget the hospital scenes where she was crying and saying that no one has noticed her absence.. My guess is this: I think Nakahara will be very disappointed with Miki when he discovers that she has suffered abuse from co-workers since its first days. he works in another department, or even pass it through his head. I believe he will be very hurt by the fact that Miki did not trust him enough to tell it.
the "care" is all over the drama. you just can feel the vibe. maybe if we turn off Jun/Nakahara fan/loving for a little while, we can see it so clrealy. there is one scene that i can't forget from ep1. the one that miki started staring at Seiji as he was entering that party and she was gazing at him for good seconds. i could not help thinking if its an indication for something. not to forget, Seiji holds a higher position in that company so it's not as easy as nakahara for him to show his love and affection. not to mention the age factor as he is much older than her. and he still has not spend anytime with miki orhad a chance to know her as nakahara has. but he has been noticing all th abuse and bully. that's why he keeps giving her motivating hints.I still can not see where it fits Seiji Clytemnestra triangle because he does not care for Miki. for now everything is centered on Miki - Nakahara - Tachibana
and thanks for posting the correlation chart. my nihongo is not good enough to read but what those words with ? on miki and nakahara's relation arrows? and is there any reason for putting nakahara picture much furthur than Seiji's? or am i just reading too much into it.
sorry dear, but the "fact" part can't be said with this much confidence if we do not know what sort of character is nakahara. yes, for 2eps, he has been an absulote charming and adorable character and most helpful to miki. and they must the cutest couple out there for now.ps: Nakahara love Miki and Miki love Nakahara. that is a fact! regardless of what happens in the next few eps, I'll keep hoping that the two are happy at the end of the drama, simply because they love and are very beautiful together! and of course want to see a kissing scene between the two! need to kiss!!!!!
but what will happen in future eps has everything to do with that "fact". people always change. the same goes for nakahara and seiji. if for example, nakahara turned to be a person who cares more about his job/his family status (remember that he does not know that miki is coming from a poor background and tachibana is a rich girl, and also his mother influence on him might be too strong and he does not stand up to her, or starts ignoring her after tachibana spreads the rumours about them going out together all over to keep his image and position....). the possibilites are endless.
at the end of the day, we have to remember that is only 2eps and so much to come.
I fully agree that people can change - and change. Japanese dramas and always has been, the events are very fast, because there are few eps.
but in my case, I would be very disappointed if my boyfriend had abused the company and did not tell me, since the first day I was the one that helped him. more than confidence, I think it is up to a point of supporting it. He could help more if she told. Do not talk as if the guilt of harassment that was suffering from Miki Nakahara! he is the one who helps her and he has no obligation to find it yourself. only because she had mentioned that no one felt the lack of it gives no indication that she is mistreated by her colleagues.
about the fact that Miki come from a poor family and the influence of his mother: I it is precisely here that the character and Nakahara's love by Miki will be tested ! if he loves it really - as he demonstrates and claimed the actor - it does not affect anything. yet he will be with her. My great concern is the obsession of Tachibana by Nakahara.
I mean that just because Seiji is the boss, need to be rude? sorry my dear, but this has nothing to do absulut! to get it is the main culprit for the harassment that Miki suffers. because a boss who tolerates this type of aggressive behavior within a company just shows how much he does not care about anyone, much less with Miki. He as the head, should lead by example and just this horrible situation, but it allows, which only proves that he is not a good person.
The situation might be reversed but over the eps, Nakahara's hero can become the villain e Seiji too, but twist the truth so that it does not end with Miki and Nakahara. I can not imagine any other way, although I think it will not happen because the Japanese dramas never end as we want is likely that Miki does not end with Nakahara, but I really wanted to finish
but in my case, I would be very disappointed if my boyfriend had abused the company and did not tell me, since the first day I was the one that helped him. more than confidence, I think it is up to a point of supporting it. He could help more if she told. Do not talk as if the guilt of harassment that was suffering from Miki Nakahara! he is the one who helps her and he has no obligation to find it yourself. only because she had mentioned that no one felt the lack of it gives no indication that she is mistreated by her colleagues.
about the fact that Miki come from a poor family and the influence of his mother: I it is precisely here that the character and Nakahara's love by Miki will be tested ! if he loves it really - as he demonstrates and claimed the actor - it does not affect anything. yet he will be with her. My great concern is the obsession of Tachibana by Nakahara.
I mean that just because Seiji is the boss, need to be rude? sorry my dear, but this has nothing to do absulut! to get it is the main culprit for the harassment that Miki suffers. because a boss who tolerates this type of aggressive behavior within a company just shows how much he does not care about anyone, much less with Miki. He as the head, should lead by example and just this horrible situation, but it allows, which only proves that he is not a good person.
The situation might be reversed but over the eps, Nakahara's hero can become the villain e Seiji too, but twist the truth so that it does not end with Miki and Nakahara. I can not imagine any other way, although I think it will not happen because the Japanese dramas never end as we want is likely that Miki does not end with Nakahara, but I really wanted to finish
PS: I suggest that you read the interviews with the actors on the website. I think it will be very productive
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/nakanai/interview/index.html
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/nakanai/interview/index.html
of course it will be very productive but at the same time we have to remember that they are NOT going to spill the beans for viewers and they still want to keep them guessing and interested. so of course he will say nakahara has pure love for miki (and we can see it from the drama itself) and such but he won't tell you what will happen to this feeling later on and so.ozawa00 wrote:PS: I suggest that you read the interviews with the actors on the website. I think it will be very productive
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/nakanai/interview/index.html
again here i think i need to be more clearer. i just wanted to say that we should not let our opinion/likes/dislikes of a character/actor influnece us on steretyping a particular character. of course each one of us have their ideal way of wanting a drama ends up a certain way but if it did not, we can't say that it was a bad ending.
it's just when i read your posts, i get the feeling that from first second if the drama you have made up your mind about how great and deep is nakahara and miki's relationship and do not want to accept anything other than this. rejecting every little possibilities of Seiji's involvement in this story. of course, you are attracted to this drama from this angle and you like it to end this way. i don't blame you. i have been like this so many times too. but i say that we should see other sides of the whole story too.
as i said before, i am in love with both characters. so both charcaters have equal chance to prove themselves to me. even though i am so in love with miki x nakahara's relation right now. but i need more and more character development.
ps. i am assuming that you are flunet in japanese because have read Jun's comment. in this case, could kindly tell me what those words with (?) on miki x nakahara arrows say? i really appreciate it.
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it is so interesting to see that everyone is so disturb by the story and the abuse and bully.
but don't forget this is japanese drama, everything will fall nicely in place in the last episode.
who knows, probably the evil people will realise their mistake, and realise the good of miki, then they will be friends.. fairy tale cliche always happen in japanese drama, especially theme like this kinda.
anyway, i think there is something between seiji and yukiko in the past... they seemed to hate each other, and that may explain the bully and him pretending not to notice the bullying. probably he used to bully yukiko???
but don't forget this is japanese drama, everything will fall nicely in place in the last episode.
who knows, probably the evil people will realise their mistake, and realise the good of miki, then they will be friends.. fairy tale cliche always happen in japanese drama, especially theme like this kinda.
anyway, i think there is something between seiji and yukiko in the past... they seemed to hate each other, and that may explain the bully and him pretending not to notice the bullying. probably he used to bully yukiko???
yep, i noticed the tension between these too. i really eager to know these 3 charcaters. i mean nakahara, seiji and yukiko. specially that yukiko has drinking problem too. i wonder about her secret with seijianyway, i think there is something between seiji and yukiko in the past... they seemed to hate each other, and that may explain the bully and him pretending not to notice the bullying. probably he used to bully yukiko???
i can take any drama but when the theme is about bullying, it really bothers me. it's a serious subject.
the problem is, being a japanese drama. you can never guess the outcome.
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actually.. i get kinda confuse initially when they get fujiki as seiji and yoshino as yukiko, and they r supposed to hate each other or share some secret.. u know for a split second it reminded me of their previous drama just 2 seasons ago.. .. ok.. i side-tracked...gome...Issy wrote:yep, i noticed the tension between these too. i really eager to know these 3 charcaters. i mean nakahara, seiji and yukiko. specially that yukiko has drinking problem too. i wonder about her secret with seijianyway, i think there is something between seiji and yukiko in the past... they seemed to hate each other, and that may explain the bully and him pretending not to notice the bullying. probably he used to bully yukiko???
oh, please don't remind me of their previous drama Yako no Kaiden. it was a complete disaster. worst jdrama EVER. but yeah, it is a bit confusing because it does make think something is going on which it does between them. not to mention that i think something is going on between her and the top boss too.
i know she is very liked actress but her recent dramas were not that good and her role in this one is not very heart warming so i kind of disliked her from the start. plus, as a more expereienced actress i thought her acting style must be better than this.
i know she is very liked actress but her recent dramas were not that good and her role in this one is not very heart warming so i kind of disliked her from the start. plus, as a more expereienced actress i thought her acting style must be better than this.
ok, I think I expressed myself badly again, finally... yes, yes I'm a fan of the couple Nakahara and Miki and I will not deny it. but I'm sad, because after reviewing the opinions of you I'm thinking whether or not they will end up together. not because Nakahara will prove a bad person, but by external factors: the wickedness of those who surround them. A lie that Tachibana invent, a rumor, or it can forge a scene that would compromise it, how to kiss him in front of Miki, finally, there are endless possibilities to end their happiness. that is why I find it very sad if they do not finish together for the wickedness of others.
I can not read Japanese, only recognized the kanji of the correlation between love and Miki Nakahara. the rest can not read I'm also curious to find out the relationship Tachibana to Nakahara but still do not know.
Now that you have told us... I also noticed the strange behavior of Yukiko and the tension between her and Seiji. may be that and a secret, they may have had a loving relationship before it ended and is even likely that they might resume. there is also the possibility it is not impossible.
new couples may arise during this drama. in my opinion, these can be:
we are currently Nakahara and Miki in the future speculative...
Nakahara x Tachibana
Miki x Seiji
Seiji x Yukiko
or, again, Nakahara x Miki
is just my opinion, but let's stop trying to guess what will happen and just watch the next eps
I can not read Japanese, only recognized the kanji of the correlation between love and Miki Nakahara. the rest can not read I'm also curious to find out the relationship Tachibana to Nakahara but still do not know.
Now that you have told us... I also noticed the strange behavior of Yukiko and the tension between her and Seiji. may be that and a secret, they may have had a loving relationship before it ended and is even likely that they might resume. there is also the possibility it is not impossible.
new couples may arise during this drama. in my opinion, these can be:
we are currently Nakahara and Miki in the future speculative...
Nakahara x Tachibana
Miki x Seiji
Seiji x Yukiko
or, again, Nakahara x Miki
is just my opinion, but let's stop trying to guess what will happen and just watch the next eps
but this is the whole fun of watching a drama. it means it's interesting enough to keep you guessing and wondering about its storylines and characters. if a drama does not do this to you, it means its dull and boring that you don't even care to guess.is just my opinion, but let's stop trying to guess what will happen and just watch the next eps
as last week, please can anyone post a link when it's uploaded any where? thanks in advance.
it is not that annoying, just thought we are all fantasizing too hihihi ^^ then was just trying to stop speculating and wait for the next eps just to see and I guess no surprise ^^Issy wrote:but this is the whole fun of watching a drama. it means it's interesting enough to keep you guessing and wondering about its storylines and characters. if a drama does not do this to you, it means its dull and boring that you don't even care to guess.is just my opinion, but let's stop trying to guess what will happen and just watch the next eps
as last week, please can anyone post a link when it's uploaded any where? thanks in advance.
changing the subject, anyone out there has or knows someone that has the ep09 drama Magarikado No Kanojo? are 11 eps, I managed to get 10 of them but was lacking the 9 please if someone can help me achieve ep9! thanks in advance.
ep 03 ^ ^ I'll just watch when you leave the torrent
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video ... d=37114397
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video ... d=37114397
ozawa00 wrote:ep 03 ^ ^ I'll just watch when you leave the torrent
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video ... d=37114397
Thank you, i would if i had the patience.
no problem, I like to help ^^Issy wrote:ozawa00 wrote:ep 03 ^ ^ I'll just watch when you leave the torrent
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video ... d=37114397
Thank you, i would if i had the patience.
now I'm getting more patience ^^ sorry that was not in Pandora TV and it's horrible when I get home from work I'll check if it is already available on youtube then post here.
l'l try to see on youtube or when you leave the torrent, then solve.
unfrotunately is for members only. i wonder if there anyother sites like the one with ep2ozawa00 wrote:no problem, I like to help ^^Issy wrote:ozawa00 wrote:ep 03 ^ ^ I'll just watch when you leave the torrent
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video ... d=37114397
Thank you, i would if i had the patience.
now I'm getting more patience ^^ sorry that was not in Pandora TV and it's horrible when I get home from work I'll check if it is already available on youtube then post here.
l'l try to see on youtube or when you leave the torrent, then solve.
I managed to watch the first ep2 in Pandora, do not know because it is getting...Issy wrote: unfrotunately is for members only. i wonder if there anyother sites like the one with ep2
so I guess we'll just wait to enter the youtube. as I said before, I will work and when I return if I have left. bye
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hihihihi I love Kaname even more than 5 years! and once again I agree with you: there is no 100% good characterIssy wrote:YEP. i also noticed your devotd love to nakahara/jun maybe that's why you try to reason every he has done or about to do in a good way. ma, i don't balme you.
i just don't believe in 100% good characters. they have to have their faults too.
well, that's explains it all as i said i don't balme you at all. if i loved the guy for these many years, i would have done the same.ozawa00 wrote:hihihihi I love Kaname even more than 5 years! and once again I agree with you: there is no 100% good characterIssy wrote:YEP. i also noticed your devotd love to nakahara/jun maybe that's why you try to reason every he has done or about to do in a good way. ma, i don't balme you.
i just don't believe in 100% good characters. they have to have their faults too.
with me, i know Naohito and jun for some years and seen most of both actors dramas. i don't like them deeply as i like my other favourite acotrs but i still like them both. i can't say which one more now though
equalized xDIssy wrote:well, that's explains it all as i said i don't balme you at all. if i loved the guy for these many years, i would have done the same.ozawa00 wrote:hihihihi I love Kaname even more than 5 years! and once again I agree with you: there is no 100% good characterIssy wrote:YEP. i also noticed your devotd love to nakahara/jun maybe that's why you try to reason every he has done or about to do in a good way. ma, i don't balme you.
i just don't believe in 100% good characters. they have to have their faults too.
with me, i know Naohito and jun for some years and seen most of both actors dramas. i don't like them deeply as i like my other favourite acotrs but i still like them both. i can't say which one more now though
actually the Kaname is my single favorite actor, he was the only actor who I could really like I'll just clarify one thing: to love despite both the actor and the character analysis I make of his actions are based on behavior. were proved that he was bad, even though I did not like, but I would assume it was bad, as I mentioned earlier about the possibility that he is stealing the company
TRUE, that's why i said we can never be sure about both charcaters. i did not assume he was pure good from begining and now i don't think he is bad because what he did.to love despite both the actor and the character analysis I make of his actions are based on behavior. were proved that he was bad, even though I did not like, but I would assume it was bad, as I mentioned earlier about the possibility that he is stealing the company
same for Seiji, i don't think he was bad because he ignored miki in first eps and not going to say he is great because he will be helping miki (if he does)
hai hai!! totally agree!!!Issy wrote:TRUE, that's why i said we can never be sure about both charcaters. i did not assume he was pure good from begining and now i don't think he is bad because what he did.to love despite both the actor and the character analysis I make of his actions are based on behavior. were proved that he was bad, even though I did not like, but I would assume it was bad, as I mentioned earlier about the possibility that he is stealing the company
same for Seiji, i don't think he was bad because he ignored miki in first eps and not going to say he is great because he will be helping miki (if he does)
only that I'm happy, because I hoped a lot for a kissing scene between Nakahara and Miki, hopefully others will. just thought that the kiss could have been much better, so I thought simple should have been much of a kiss, like those between Kaname and Inamori Izumi in Magarikado No Kanojo! but those were super kisses
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still haven't seen ep3 but looking forward to it.
Issy: the arrows (in the relationship diagram) between nakahara and miki say "love?". the arrow from seiji to miki says "interest" while the arrow from miki to seiji says "strict boss".
From the interviews on the drama official website, Naohito's character is a person who looks after miki from afar. He has to act so as viewers do not know if he's a good or bad person. it's a little difficult to act the part or so he said.
The actors/actress do not know how the story will go or how it will end because this is an original script drama so they are also anxious on how the story will develop too.
Looks like the writers did a lot of research on the topic (that is bullying at work) and mix them into the drama. Some might find the setting unbelievable (how could so many bad people gather in one place?) but of course, some people posted on webboard and such that they've experienced worse.
I dont think Seiji would be able to directly protect miki like some viewers would like him to. because if he does that, miki would be bullied all the more. the only solution is for the victim of the bullying to get stronger and fend his/herself.
(but keep in mind that i'm biased towards Fujiki Naohito even though i adore Kaname Jun and think he looks better than Nao. But you know Seiji is the hero here! have to keep cheering for him!! lol)
Issy: the arrows (in the relationship diagram) between nakahara and miki say "love?". the arrow from seiji to miki says "interest" while the arrow from miki to seiji says "strict boss".
From the interviews on the drama official website, Naohito's character is a person who looks after miki from afar. He has to act so as viewers do not know if he's a good or bad person. it's a little difficult to act the part or so he said.
The actors/actress do not know how the story will go or how it will end because this is an original script drama so they are also anxious on how the story will develop too.
Looks like the writers did a lot of research on the topic (that is bullying at work) and mix them into the drama. Some might find the setting unbelievable (how could so many bad people gather in one place?) but of course, some people posted on webboard and such that they've experienced worse.
I dont think Seiji would be able to directly protect miki like some viewers would like him to. because if he does that, miki would be bullied all the more. the only solution is for the victim of the bullying to get stronger and fend his/herself.
(but keep in mind that i'm biased towards Fujiki Naohito even though i adore Kaname Jun and think he looks better than Nao. But you know Seiji is the hero here! have to keep cheering for him!! lol)
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thanks alot for explaining the arrow signs. i was thinking about it and i thought of course they are not going to write down their exact relation there as they don't want to give the story away. but as i thought, Naohito is the main hero of the story. but they are taking with his appearance. and i was just going to say about him not being able to clearly defends miki as the bully will increase even more. you're right about it.
but i can't believe that some viewers already agreed that is what has been happening in some work places. i thought it was just made to be over the top. i am shocked indeed.
@ozawa00
now you got me interested in Magari Kado no Kanojo and i want to watch it too. did some research on wiki and found it interesting. any idea where to get it? looking ot the torrent and i can't seem to find it.
thanks alot for explaining the arrow signs. i was thinking about it and i thought of course they are not going to write down their exact relation there as they don't want to give the story away. but as i thought, Naohito is the main hero of the story. but they are taking with his appearance. and i was just going to say about him not being able to clearly defends miki as the bully will increase even more. you're right about it.
but i can't believe that some viewers already agreed that is what has been happening in some work places. i thought it was just made to be over the top. i am shocked indeed.
@ozawa00
now you got me interested in Magari Kado no Kanojo and i want to watch it too. did some research on wiki and found it interesting. any idea where to get it? looking ot the torrent and i can't seem to find it.
oh, yeah, glad you liked Magarikado, I simply LOVE this drama he is perfect: romantic, light and fun, fun even! only a great pity... it has no legend but even without caption is worth seeing but, I will send to you a link to the torrents and now I'm sending seeds. but watch it I guarantee you will love it, is in the top 3 of my favorite dramas.Issy wrote:
@ozawa00
now you got me interested in Magari Kado no Kanojo and i want to watch it too. did some research on wiki and found it interesting. any idea where to get it? looking ot the torrent and i can't seem to find it.
the link of torrents: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents ... +no+kanojo
about his speculation preview for ep4...
thanks. dling at the moments. but i noticed that there is no subs for this drama and i am not so sure if i'll understand the story.ozawa00 wrote:ps: watch Magarikado same! then we discuss about it. always wanted someone to talk about this tragedy and never found. this drama is really good. until we can discuss by e-mail
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rsrsrs without problems! I've watched this drama so often that I get it at least 80% of the whole story. then depending on the questions you have I can even explainIssy wrote:thanks. dling at the moments. but i noticed that there is no subs for this drama and i am not so sure if i'll understand the story.ozawa00 wrote:ps: watch Magarikado same! then we discuss about it. always wanted someone to talk about this tragedy and never found. this drama is really good. until we can discuss by e-mail
Tachibana on... after all events have seen to date, I believe only one person will be able to expose her, and will be the Nakahara. Travel can be up to my head but it makes some sense, for example, in ep3 someone noticed the expression that he did after she spoke to him and gone? he made a face as if you were suspicious of her attitude and how it will increasingly try to win it, I believe it can make a mistake and give him some break to play the wickedness of it. but as always is a possibility, can happen or not. and I also doubt that the guy with glasses will uncover the Tachibana because of the recordings, because he also hates Miki
Heheheh, you.re so nice ^^Issy wrote:AND AS ALWAYS
ps. i was actually waiting for your post.
By the way, if there is people who can.t use the last link. Here.s another one
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video ... d=37164282
I finished to watched it and i.m looking for watch the next one. I need it!!!
Issy which saw Miki Nakahara's house? I was confused in that part of your quote because I have not seen the ep4 (was working and I'll see you tomorrow )
haha... I knew it! I always knew that the damn arm Tachibana was something to separate the Nakahara Miki. I'm so sad because what I really wanted is that finish with Miki Nakahara and each episode I see that this is not going to happen and what saddens me most is knowing that they will be separated by the malice of others. It is precisely why I did not want to end with Miki Seiji. because it will show that evil prevailed over good. What good is it to rely on Miki Seiji after they separate from Nakahara? it will not stop loving the Nakahara anyway, mainly because Nakahara is as victim of circumstances in this story about Miki. Honestly if it continues, I just gave up watching this drama.
haha... I knew it! I always knew that the damn arm Tachibana was something to separate the Nakahara Miki. I'm so sad because what I really wanted is that finish with Miki Nakahara and each episode I see that this is not going to happen and what saddens me most is knowing that they will be separated by the malice of others. It is precisely why I did not want to end with Miki Seiji. because it will show that evil prevailed over good. What good is it to rely on Miki Seiji after they separate from Nakahara? it will not stop loving the Nakahara anyway, mainly because Nakahara is as victim of circumstances in this story about Miki. Honestly if it continues, I just gave up watching this drama.
OOOHHHH!!!!! Tachibana damn!! she will take advantage of it!! aaaafffffff hate this womanIssy wrote:@ozawa
so far previous 3eps were so annoying in terms of making your blood boil to the point of thinking of leaving this drama all together but somehow i was able to stand this ep even though tachibana's evilness is getting more and more. i guess i am getting used to all these unfairness
ps: I noticed something in advance for ep5 think after thinking it was betrayed by Nakahara, Miki is going to get stronger to face the people in the company and it seems that Seiji will help you.
I was just so sad Nakahara. I think he will suffer a lot from now on. the scene where he cried at the end was so touching I almost cried along with him. poor of my love
I was just so sad Nakahara. I think he will suffer a lot from now on. the scene where he cried at the end was so touching I almost cried along with him. poor of my love
Yes! I also realized that Yukiko changed. I think she expected this attitude of Miki all the time. it's about time it put a stop. but I can not help but feel sorry for Nakahara. once again he was the target of a trap. is clear that nothing happened between the two. even if she wanted, Nakahara fainted because of drinking or if she wanted would have been something. she just forged the situation but Miki will never believe it. Tachibana damn! this idiot had to spoil the romance of the two. I'm anxious to see the ep5! I have to see the reaction of Nakahara when waking up next to Tachibana.
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I'm not much for posting on threads - so I posted this 1 time lol - but I wanted to leave my opinion on this drama. to finish watching the episode 4 honestly thought about quitting continuing. realized that you speculate much on the topic and try to guess what will happen. but as you noticed from the episode 5 the game will turn? was clear that miki will get stronger seems to think it was betrayed by shota and slap it led to seiji made her wake. will try to be as clear as possible in my opinion. yes, miki will be stronger but what about shota? he'll give the blackmail of marika? um...... I definitely do NOT. just as miki, nakahara can also turn the tide against marika. is obvious that he will not accept that they spent the night together as he slept and did not remember anything. on the contrary - will hate shota marika that she had ruined her romance with miki, so he can get involved with it in order to destroy it - is the most likely to happen - on the future development of the relationship between miki x seiji I bet the following. will not roll love between them. we may even like to seiji miki miki but I think it will be based on seiji only by the frustration of having been betrayed by shota - which in fact did not happen but she does not know - and then she will change her attitude from now on until I she can use seiji only to avenge the nakahara for something that never happened. and when all truths are revealed may even miki shota and getting back together in the end - I think they both deserve it because it was very unfair the way they parted. the old trick of taking advantage of a drunk man who has no longer keeps their eyes open really their night must have been very good
I think you mean "it will be based on miki..."will not roll love between them. we may even like to seiji miki miki but I think it will be based on seiji only by the frustration of having been betrayed by shota - which in fact did not happen but she does not know - and then she will change her attitude from now on until I she can use seiji only to avenge the nakahara for something that never happened
but somehow, i don't see miki as a revanging woman type and a woman who just goes out with anyone because her previous bf has betrayed her (as she thinks now). as a wise gf, she should ask for an explanation from nakahara specially that he was never had any suspecting atention to tachibana.
so it would be really silly if she does not talk openly to him after what she saw. specially that ended up her thinking of commiting suicide. nakahara was her everything in that work place. that's why she said i don't have anything anymore when she was on the roof top. if someone is everything to you, then you need to ask why this happened.
i really can't wait for next ep. the problem is only thursday today
yes! based on the quote above I also agree that Miki should talk openly with Nakahara. the problem is how he will explain to her. he will simply say, "I was crying and falling down drunk in the street, Tachibana took me home, took off my clothes, threw me on the bed and did not happen any more because I was sleeping" It's amazing to believe, but that's the truth but is logical that Miki will not believe this story. she will think that Nakahara was a villain when in fact he was the victim and everything will depend on the next steps that will Nakahara regarding Tachibana.
but if Miki analyze the situation at hand >> when she spoke to him on the phone itself realized that he was not well. appeared after several calls him in her cell so she could ask if he had Tachibana, he bother to call me so many times? << But of course she will not think so. can not always just believe what our eyes can see.
two points that the girl mentioned above which may be that even happens: Tachibana Nakahara blackmail will not have to be soothsayer to know that. << This is fact. he can use it as a weapon to discover the pitfalls of it. everything will depend on him because I do not think he'll be very happy to have separated Tachibana Miki and he's breaking blackmail him. well... may be that in the end after all the misunderstandings clarified mals they stay together it will all depend on how things happen now. OHH Issy! I'm also dying to see ep5
but if Miki analyze the situation at hand >> when she spoke to him on the phone itself realized that he was not well. appeared after several calls him in her cell so she could ask if he had Tachibana, he bother to call me so many times? << But of course she will not think so. can not always just believe what our eyes can see.
two points that the girl mentioned above which may be that even happens: Tachibana Nakahara blackmail will not have to be soothsayer to know that. << This is fact. he can use it as a weapon to discover the pitfalls of it. everything will depend on him because I do not think he'll be very happy to have separated Tachibana Miki and he's breaking blackmail him. well... may be that in the end after all the misunderstandings clarified mals they stay together it will all depend on how things happen now. OHH Issy! I'm also dying to see ep5
NOT REALLY!yes! based on the quote above I also agree that Miki should talk openly with Nakahara. the problem is how he will explain to her. he will simply say, "I was crying and falling down drunk in the street, Tachibana took me home, took off my clothes, threw me on the bed and did not happen any more because I was sleeping" It's amazing to believe, but that's the truth but is logical that Miki will not believe this story. she will think that Nakahara was a villain when in fact he was the victim and everything will depend on the next steps that will Nakahara regarding Tachibana.
well, was not well so I wanted to sayIssy wrote:NOT REALLY!yes! based on the quote above I also agree that Miki should talk openly with Nakahara. the problem is how he will explain to her. he will simply say, "I was crying and falling down drunk in the street, Tachibana took me home, took off my clothes, threw me on the bed and did not happen any more because I was sleeping" It's amazing to believe, but that's the truth but is logical that Miki will not believe this story. she will think that Nakahara was a villain when in fact he was the victim and everything will depend on the next steps that will Nakahara regarding Tachibana.
but watching ep4, i think i have my prediction of final couple
OHH Issy, really really cool to talk to you
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