[Discussion] Sunao ni Narenakute (Ueno Juri, Eita)
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I'm not reading the spoilers for episode 7...so, fa la la la la....
Yeah, that is one possible scenario, given that....bmwracer wrote: Seeing how things are progressing, could it be that
That sunset glomp attack of Chiaki on Nodame was SO perfect. Every time I see that scene, it makes me feel giddy and happy for them all over again.That said, nothing compares to the Chiaki-Nodame glomp in Episode 11 of Nodame Cantabile... It's so wonderfully joyous and heartwarming... I smile just thinking about it.
But you can say that about all the main characters in the beginning. I really am interested to find out his reasons for this heinous lie in the next episode cuz it's the sort of lie that could be a dealbreaker with Haru.bmwracer wrote:Yeah, really dumb... But it's sort of in keeping with his character of presenting a bogus image to impress people...condorjoe wrote:
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True... But since they've become rather good friends, you'd think they would have removed those facades...condorjoe wrote:But you can say that about all the main characters in the beginning.bmwracer wrote:Yeah, really dumb... But it's sort of in keeping with his character of presenting a bogus image to impress people...condorjoe wrote:
Like you said, maybe it's his insecurity... But perpetuating a lie like that is a relationship breaker.I really am interested to find out his reasons for this heinous lie in the next episode cuz it's the sort of lie that could ruin his relationship with Haru.
i agree with you that japan is a male dominated society, but you're going too far when you say that wives are treated like slaves.Orion1986 wrote:
nowadays, many women who are married with or without children have their own careers and are not just housewives or stay-at-home moms, so women are gaining more independence and power in japan.
most japanese married couples i personally know having nothing like master/slave relationships.
i doubt that kiriko and her husband have that kind of relationship either.
Again, I wasn't talking about everyone. In every country, there are good and bad. Nothing is absolute. I was talking about how usually such rich successful and old-fashioned men (in any society) don't think much of women. And because it's a male dominated society, I think there are more of such cases there than there are in Finland, let's say. I feel it's much more realistic if he turns out to be such a guy. Also, the wife/slave I mentioned, was for him, assuming he's this kind of a sexist man. I don't think the japanese see their women as slaves. They might admire the "good housewife" role-model, but that doesn't make them sexist. Rich and successful, powerfull men who are used to getting their way though (like her husband), yes, I don't think they would appreciate their young eye candy wives much. And the fact that he is japanese and admires the proper lady role-model even more than people of other nationalities, would make it even more of a shame to him, that's what I was saying. Sorry if it came out wrong.miznagase wrote: i agree with you that japan is a male dominated society, but you're going too far when you say that wives are treated like slaves.
nowadays, many women who are married with or without children have their own careers and are not just housewives or stay-at-home moms, so women are gaining more independence and power in japan.
most japanese married couples i personally know having nothing like master/slave relationships.
i doubt that kiriko and her husband have that kind of relationship either.
@orion1986 and miznagase
Of course there are many kinds of marriages in Japan, but I think there is still many households that the wife is mainly the keeper of the house. In this kind of relationship, the marriage is not about love. Wifes take care and support their man, raise his children, support him so he can work hard on his job. Also, divorce is still very, very taboo.
Again, not all marriages, but this style does exist and
Of course there are many kinds of marriages in Japan, but I think there is still many households that the wife is mainly the keeper of the house. In this kind of relationship, the marriage is not about love. Wifes take care and support their man, raise his children, support him so he can work hard on his job. Also, divorce is still very, very taboo.
Again, not all marriages, but this style does exist and
well, the forum has been pretty much 'alive' these days huh.... yeah I'm also thinking in that direction now that some of u (sorry the thread gets so long i forgot who!) mentioned that kiriko
I believed that Haru did not date doctor out of pity...
eh and that blood... could it be
anyway are we still reminded that we are watching a 'twitter-inspired' drama?
well this episode has been kinda comfortable for me. The pace of the whole episode seems to be bringing out how heavy haru's heart weighs... I was pretty surprisedOrion1986 wrote:
I wouldn't say out of pity. Maybe out of gratitude. The point is Haru may be dating Doctor for the wrong reasons which could only lead to heartbreak. Let's not forget that Haru is trying to respect the boundaries with Nakaji especially regarding Kiriko. She doesn't want to lose him so she's trying to be supportive as best as she can. With Doctor, she just doesn't have that rapport like she has with Nakaji.
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Absolutely... And as a result, she's in an awkward position.condorjoe wrote:I wouldn't say out of pity. Maybe out of gratitude.
Yup.The point is Haru may be dating Doctor for the wrong reasons which could only lead to heartbreak. Let's not forget that Haru is trying to respect the boundaries with Nakaji especially when comes to Kiriko. She doesn't want to lose him out her life so she's trying to be supportive as best as she can. With Doctor, she just doesn't have that rapport like she has with Nakaji.
Haru pretty much has to force herself to be with Doctor, whereas she's totally comfortable and at ease with Nakaji...
hmm..regarding synopsis for ep.7 about doc lying that he's having an 'adult relationship' with haru, i find it a bit weird. I think his reaction when he found out about haru and nakaji date at zoo is that he'll confront nakaji directly again, seeing how a straightforward person he is and just like in ep.5 (or 6?) when he asked nakaji's feeling toward haru...
rather than telling a lie that'll risk his relationship with haru...
but then again, maybe he's feeling insecure and act without thinking..
and i agree that if they turn his character into a psycho-jaelous boyfriend, it'll turn off my interest for this drama. it just...a predictable plot?
rather than telling a lie that'll risk his relationship with haru...
but then again, maybe he's feeling insecure and act without thinking..
and i agree that if they turn his character into a psycho-jaelous boyfriend, it'll turn off my interest for this drama. it just...a predictable plot?
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I like this interpretation of Linda's character, and the way we're back to guessing what happened behind that toilet stall. I guess that might have been the screenwriter's intention when they put the flashback scene at the start again? It was an excellent start to the drama, and right now when it's dragging its feet a little, it's a great way to lift up the pace again. Though I really wish they'd stuck with the fast pace of the first two episodes...Orion1986 wrote:But Nakaji was holding his cellphone at that point.
I kind of get how Romance feels. There were just so many things happening at the start -- the very first episode we got all the good stuff; the blood, the kiss, the running, the rescuing, the mysterious girlfriend... Then now, when they're resolving (seemingly) disparate storylines, it's hard to see how it all ties into a coherent line that progresses the plot. And I still can't root for Nakaji and Haru comfortably, even with JUYI's interpretation of how Haru probably sees Nakaji now.
Someone asked if the drama was still in the process of writing/filming, which is why Haru's character made such a terrible choice to balance off Nakaji's terrible choices, and make him more sympathetic as a character -- I remember reading somewhere that it was tied up before it started airing; I can't remember where I read it from though.
Probably wasn't overly dramatic enough for some people.bmwracer wrote:Uh, why do you say it's boring?Romance wrote:Oh man, ep6 was boring and the preview for ep7 looks even more boring.
What happened to this drama? I mean it started out really good but now it feels just its like going downhill. Well, hope coming episodes will be more exciting...
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Overly dramatic or melodramatic?condorjoe wrote:Probably wasn't overly dramatic enough for some people.bmwracer wrote:Uh, why do you say it's boring?Romance wrote:Oh man, ep6 was boring and the preview for ep7 looks even more boring.
What happened to this drama? I mean it started out really good but now it feels just its like going downhill. Well, hope coming episodes will be more exciting...
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Sorry to butt in, but according to the translation of episode 6 done by exotsia: http://exotsia.livejournal.com/25402.html
I liked this ep as much of it was Haru/ Nakaji centered.
I liked this ep as much of it was Haru/ Nakaji centered.
Here's a short clip of the casts celebrating Ueno Juri's birthday!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsju6m4STpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsju6m4STpA
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A Coleman folding chair for camping?Orion1986 wrote:Awww. Sweet. Nice gift too. Haha.
EDIT: Episode 6 subs are out: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_84306_195.htm
She's born in Aug,09,1985 meaning she's older than Ueno Juri by almost a year, and a few months older than Jejung. lolesmer86 wrote:«minah» wrote:Watching the sixth episode.... It's just funny how Doctor's little sister I guess goes to the same school she teaches and calls her Sensei.... while in fact the actress is older than both Ueno and JaeJung IRL lol
for real!!! how old is she!?
Aww Eita and Juri are so cute together! I hope to see more of them even after Sunao! My sis said they look alike lol
She's a bit less than a year older than them... um like.... I think she's gonna be 25 (according to drama wiki) She's the girl from Zeni Geba ^_^esmer86 wrote:«minah» wrote:Watching the sixth episode.... It's just funny how Doctor's little sister I guess goes to the same school she teaches and calls her Sensei.... while in fact the actress is older than both Ueno and JaeJung IRL lol
for real!!! how old is she!?
*edit* never mind...... the person above must have posted it as i was typing my rant lol
So I just finished eppy 6.... it went by so fast!
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^ Thanks for providing us with constant goodies and rating news, Outside.
LOL at Seki Megumi stealing a glance and laughing at JaeJoong's antics. He's truly a dork IRL.
I saw that movie starring Megumi and Juri....it's called Warau Michael. Really cheesy schoolgirl fluff. Worth watching for Juri lovers.
LOL at Seki Megumi stealing a glance and laughing at JaeJoong's antics. He's truly a dork IRL.
I saw that movie starring Megumi and Juri....it's called Warau Michael. Really cheesy schoolgirl fluff. Worth watching for Juri lovers.
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Yup... I posted a pic on the previous page.hanapyupyu wrote:I saw that movie starring Megumi and Juri....it's called Warau Michael. Really cheesy schoolgirl fluff. Worth watching for Juri lovers.
Your sister needs to get glasses.Outside wrote:Aww Eita and Juri are so cute together! I hope to see more of them even after Sunao! My sis said they look alike lol
Back on topic:
Re-watched Episode 6 with the subs... Even better.
bmwracer wrote:Yup... I posted a pic on the previous page.hanapyupyu wrote:I saw that movie starring Megumi and Juri....it's called Warau Michael. Really cheesy schoolgirl fluff. Worth watching for Juri lovers.
Your sister needs to get glasses.Outside wrote:Aww Eita and Juri are so cute together! I hope to see more of them even after Sunao! My sis said they look alike lol
Back on topic:
Re-watched Episode 6 with the subs... Even better.
Outside wrote:Here's a short clip of the casts celebrating Ueno Juri's birthday!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsju6m4STpA
the video ist no longer available
anyone upload it to any other sites?
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@hanapyupyu - your welcome! Just sharing the love
Since the drama is getting so intense! Lets take a quick break and read this very random interview from the three guys in Sunao! lol It's from this magazine:
Jaejoong: J
Tamayama Tetsuji: T
Eita: E
This week is the Sunanare boys team who has a deep bond!
Jaejoong: We became close quickly, and from the beginning showed ourselves. I think its not good because I’m showing too much of myself…
Tamayama: mm, why?
J: Aren’t I loud?
Eita: That’s not true. Your a good mood maker
T: Jaejoong-kun says jokes with full confidence. Like “Taberarenai sando was omotesandou~” (the sandwich you can’t eat is Omotesandou) *laugh*
J: When I’m with you guys, its so fun that I become like a spontaneous character
E: That’s true. That’s Jaejoong-kun’s role *laugh*
T: But about 70% is a subtle one that’s hard to react too!
J: ha~a (sighh)
E&T: *laugh*
The talk went smooth and went to how Tamayama’s habit is to compare people as animals.
T: Okay, if I were to compare Eita as an animal… it’d be “a camel that is weak to the hot weather”.
E: eh? Its a camel but its weak to the hotness? *laughs*
T: yep, seems like it *laughs*. Jaejoong-kun is “a slow monkey”. Since you’re a little clumsy right?
E: that, I understand so much!
J: what’s “ochokochoi”(clumsy)?
T: Like… spilling the water from the cup (this day while filming he made a mistake to spill water)
J: oh~ *laughs* then next I will compare you. Tamayama-san is a….”dog that’s like a cat that gets carried away”!
E: what’s that *laughs*
T: a dog that’s like a cat? *laughs*
J: Cats have a sneaky/sly image right. But Tamayama-san isn’t sneaky/sly…
T: My image is bad *laughs*
J: But then it is a dog, the master loves the dog. Like your loyalty is strong…
E: oh, I thought of one too. “A raccoon that used to be a rabbit”.
T: Isn’t that hard to understand?
E: It got tired of being a rabbit that jumps around so it evolved. A raccoon seems cute but it has it fierce side. So it has both sides.
T: oh~*laughs* what about Jaejoong-kun?
E: Golden Retrievers have lots of babies right. So “a golden retriever puppy that was born last, and is always on the side, so it can’t even get milk”
T: hahaha *laughs* I understand!
J: what~you understand?
E: but that puppy is the one that you want to touch the most.
J: ohh, really! Can I be happy?
E&T: *laughs* of course!
source: miemie0606
trans by: Rieko@sharingyc
More pics!
credit: reijae+sharingyc
Since the drama is getting so intense! Lets take a quick break and read this very random interview from the three guys in Sunao! lol It's from this magazine:
Jaejoong: J
Tamayama Tetsuji: T
Eita: E
This week is the Sunanare boys team who has a deep bond!
Jaejoong: We became close quickly, and from the beginning showed ourselves. I think its not good because I’m showing too much of myself…
Tamayama: mm, why?
J: Aren’t I loud?
Eita: That’s not true. Your a good mood maker
T: Jaejoong-kun says jokes with full confidence. Like “Taberarenai sando was omotesandou~” (the sandwich you can’t eat is Omotesandou) *laugh*
J: When I’m with you guys, its so fun that I become like a spontaneous character
E: That’s true. That’s Jaejoong-kun’s role *laugh*
T: But about 70% is a subtle one that’s hard to react too!
J: ha~a (sighh)
E&T: *laugh*
The talk went smooth and went to how Tamayama’s habit is to compare people as animals.
T: Okay, if I were to compare Eita as an animal… it’d be “a camel that is weak to the hot weather”.
E: eh? Its a camel but its weak to the hotness? *laughs*
T: yep, seems like it *laughs*. Jaejoong-kun is “a slow monkey”. Since you’re a little clumsy right?
E: that, I understand so much!
J: what’s “ochokochoi”(clumsy)?
T: Like… spilling the water from the cup (this day while filming he made a mistake to spill water)
J: oh~ *laughs* then next I will compare you. Tamayama-san is a….”dog that’s like a cat that gets carried away”!
E: what’s that *laughs*
T: a dog that’s like a cat? *laughs*
J: Cats have a sneaky/sly image right. But Tamayama-san isn’t sneaky/sly…
T: My image is bad *laughs*
J: But then it is a dog, the master loves the dog. Like your loyalty is strong…
E: oh, I thought of one too. “A raccoon that used to be a rabbit”.
T: Isn’t that hard to understand?
E: It got tired of being a rabbit that jumps around so it evolved. A raccoon seems cute but it has it fierce side. So it has both sides.
T: oh~*laughs* what about Jaejoong-kun?
E: Golden Retrievers have lots of babies right. So “a golden retriever puppy that was born last, and is always on the side, so it can’t even get milk”
T: hahaha *laughs* I understand!
J: what~you understand?
E: but that puppy is the one that you want to touch the most.
J: ohh, really! Can I be happy?
E&T: *laughs* of course!
source: miemie0606
trans by: Rieko@sharingyc
More pics!
credit: reijae+sharingyc
yeah the video have been deleted even before im able to see it:(bowies wrote:Outside wrote:Here's a short clip of the casts celebrating Ueno Juri's birthday!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsju6m4STpA
the video ist no longer available
anyone upload it to any other sites?
i hope someone kind could perhaps upload them again or maybe a download link because i really wanna see the video of them celebrating Juri birthday please????
thank you very much
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^ Outside, you're a great contributor to this thread! Thanks again for posting the article translations on the 3 cute dudes!
Aww, it's adorable how they tease each other. Tamayama is a funny guy with his animal comparison habit, lol. *trying hard to imagine Eita as a camel* I guess they see Tamayama as a tough guy with a tender heart. Have to agree with them on Jaejoong being a 'slow monkey' and 'golden retriever puppy'.
Aww, it's adorable how they tease each other. Tamayama is a funny guy with his animal comparison habit, lol. *trying hard to imagine Eita as a camel* I guess they see Tamayama as a tough guy with a tender heart. Have to agree with them on Jaejoong being a 'slow monkey' and 'golden retriever puppy'.
MhisS Lonliah from the Juri thread gave us this link: http://blog.naver.com/ssuunn0011/150086925591 Hope it still works!Salz wrote: yeah the video have been deleted even before im able to see it:(
i hope someone kind could perhaps upload them again or maybe a download link because i really wanna see the video of them celebrating Juri birthday please????
thank you very much
Hello I'm new here!
I've watched Sunao ni Narenakute and I love it so far so I decided to make an account here to discuss the series with fellow fans (and critics)
I like the characters so far with the exception of Nakaji. Actually, I sort of like him too (mainly because it's Eita playing the role)
Sorry for the rant ahaha... I'll stop now.
Anyways here's a preview of EP 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfUPakoj1SU
I've watched Sunao ni Narenakute and I love it so far so I decided to make an account here to discuss the series with fellow fans (and critics)
I like the characters so far with the exception of Nakaji. Actually, I sort of like him too (mainly because it's Eita playing the role)
Anyways here's a preview of EP 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfUPakoj1SU
I have to agree. The series just got extremely ridiculous and ruined the whole thing for me.
There's a fine line between being dramatic and overly dramatic and this series just crossed it. I can handle these over the top situations in korean romantic comedy series, but from a japanese romantic drama, I don't expect all these "finest of soap operas" plot twists. It feels like whoever wrote it is disrespecting the viewers' intelligence and diversity cause . I mean, some people might actually not agree, so you give them a bit of a variety of things to be interested in. Spice it up and make it complicated, for crying out loud.
Very disappointed with how this is going. It's just not my style and I believe that for anyone, things are just being boring right now. Not to mention that you lose any respect and favorable opinion for the characters when they all
Very disappointed with how this is going. It's just not my style and I believe that for anyone
I agree. It's amazing how much those people complain about this drama yet they continue to watch it. It's already halfway done, the poor bastards. And I wouldn't feel sorry for them cuz they are the cause of their own misery.bmwracer wrote:Easy solution for those who are sick of the way the story is going: stop watching... If you can.
Who puts that much time and energy and continue watch something you clearly dislike? Why should anyone should take their posts seriously? Find something better to watch if you dislike this drama so much.
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Yeah, same here... Pretty hard to watch, knowing what we know...miznagase wrote:wow episode 7 was pretty messy
I didn't think this episode was crappy at all, but very very complicated and intertwined...at this point, i have no idea how this story is going to end, but i really hope that it won't be crappy like this episode
To those who say we should stop if we don't like it, as much as it is a disappointment (the series), when the series has been keeping the viewers attention with the promise of smart and complicated plot twists, it's only natural we'd keep watching and we should be disappointed and critical when they offer us "less than" what the show seemed to be about. That's not an excuse for the makers to make a mess out of the story.
I did say I'll keep watching, but I'll keep watching hoping everyone suffers. If making the characters weak and easy to hate only to have the viewer want them to hurt was the purpose of the writer, than it's worked out great.
If however, the purpose was to have viewers care and worry about the characters, I'd say it's a failure when most people here are finding them all going weak and mean.
As a viewer, you can't know if a series will be good or bad right from the start. When you do have such a good cast and plotline, it's your responsibility as a writer/series maker, to have a plot that's appropriate for the type of audience you attract. You give me a good cast, a series that looks good and has so many interesting things going on AND the twitter thing which makes one think they'll explore the whole social media phenomenon and how relationships through them work. So when you get smart, modern people who are expecting to see an innovative emotional drama interested, turning the series into such a cliche factory is not fair to them.
I have a right to complain, just as others have a right to praise. The only reason for me to stop watching and writing is because the people who like it get annoyed and, sorry, that's not good enough for me. I am against pure haters because they hate with no reason. I am stating exactly why I dislike the series as of now.
If everyone loved everything that came out, would we really have any changes in the entertainment world? And look at how many immature and brainless works we have nowadays, from Hollywood and other industries, exactly because bimbos and morons are a majority of the ones openly expressing themselves and they "like, OMG, like totally LOOOOVE" something or someone without any real reasons and even if it's poorly done and stupid (and usually, the more idiotic it is, the better for them). I dislike how the series is going and I have the right and obligation, as a person of my age and maturity who loves dramas and wants good entertainment, to talk about the reasons I dislike something and how it could be improved. It's called feedback and it doesn't have to be positive about everything. Without it, the people who make entertainment, don't have anything to go by. And one person can't change things, but forgive me for trying. I'm not exactly being tortured while writing so it's not that difficult to chip in, even just a little, into the feedback for this series.
I think it's a shame to have such a good cast and waste it on shallow characters and I think it's a shame to have such an interesting plotline and not use it to its full potential. If you really hate that so much, tell me straight up and I'll stop and leave the thread. I do want to give my feedback, but not if everyone will be put off their tea for it.
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I did say I'll keep watching, but I'll keep watching hoping everyone suffers. If making the characters weak and easy to hate only to have the viewer want them to hurt was the purpose of the writer, than it's worked out great.
If however, the purpose was to have viewers care and worry about the characters, I'd say it's a failure when most people here are finding them all going weak and mean.
As a viewer, you can't know if a series will be good or bad right from the start. When you do have such a good cast and plotline, it's your responsibility as a writer/series maker, to have a plot that's appropriate for the type of audience you attract. You give me a good cast, a series that looks good and has so many interesting things going on AND the twitter thing which makes one think they'll explore the whole social media phenomenon and how relationships through them work. So when you get smart, modern people who are expecting to see an innovative emotional drama interested, turning the series into such a cliche factory is not fair to them.
I have a right to complain, just as others have a right to praise. The only reason for me to stop watching and writing is because the people who like it get annoyed and, sorry, that's not good enough for me. I am against pure haters because they hate with no reason. I am stating exactly why I dislike the series as of now.
If everyone loved everything that came out, would we really have any changes in the entertainment world? And look at how many immature and brainless works we have nowadays, from Hollywood and other industries, exactly because bimbos and morons are a majority of the ones openly expressing themselves and they "like, OMG, like totally LOOOOVE" something or someone without any real reasons and even if it's poorly done and stupid (and usually, the more idiotic it is, the better for them). I dislike how the series is going and I have the right and obligation, as a person of my age and maturity who loves dramas and wants good entertainment, to talk about the reasons I dislike something and how it could be improved. It's called feedback and it doesn't have to be positive about everything. Without it, the people who make entertainment, don't have anything to go by. And one person can't change things, but forgive me for trying. I'm not exactly being tortured while writing so it's not that difficult to chip in, even just a little, into the feedback for this series.
I think it's a shame to have such a good cast and waste it on shallow characters and I think it's a shame to have such an interesting plotline and not use it to its full potential. If you really hate that so much, tell me straight up and I'll stop and leave the thread. I do want to give my feedback, but not if everyone will be put off their tea for it.
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