[Discussion] Mother
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[Discussion] Mother
New thread for discussing Mother Series
I'll put more usual information here, but for now discuss away this wonderful show !!
I'll put more usual information here, but for now discuss away this wonderful show !!
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This. Just the production value alone is top notch in this drama. The acting is very convincing, and i'd say award winning. Put that all to a good story lijne, and you get "Mother". Quite possibly the best drama i have ever seen, next to 1 liter of tears.kiki wrote:one of the best drama this season. good acting, story and directing. can't wait for more ep.
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1) No hot looking character in it.citrone wrote:I don't get why this drama is overlooked in this season. I think it's one of the best. Maybe we have many dramas with famous stars taking all the attention...
Love acting... and nice scripting ^^
2) No JE actors.
3) Almost nobody here can relate or feel the sufferance because it's not on their level.
4) No love theme between a hot looking guy and decent looking girl.
5) Different pattern overall. Almost nobody here is used to such pattern.
Here you have your reasons. That's D-Addicts to you. But those reasons don't apply to people who simply can't stand too dramatic scenes.
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Can I really ask you guys what are you basing on the fact that this drama is overlook??
The show is getting decent VR, as well as good response/download ratio in D-A...despite the fact that:
- this is quite a depressing show (off-putter for many)
- No sexy/cute female actresses (putting off plenty of male audience)
- no star-stacking like in most shows...
- female-oriented story (further putting off male audience)
- not your typical romance/detective story
- Run by NTV
This season is well-balanced, imo... we have good detective shows (shinzanmono), good romance (sunao, dosokai, etc).. good drama (mother).. not the best comedy but ok nonetheless (yabe kenzo, hana, kaibutsu kun)..
It is a well-rounded season with no 1-show dominating the scene like JIN in 2009...
I think what made this drama shine is the director for setting the right mood/pace for this dorama.. as well as the convincing acting...
The show is getting decent VR, as well as good response/download ratio in D-A...despite the fact that:
- this is quite a depressing show (off-putter for many)
- No sexy/cute female actresses (putting off plenty of male audience)
- no star-stacking like in most shows...
- female-oriented story (further putting off male audience)
- not your typical romance/detective story
- Run by NTV
This season is well-balanced, imo... we have good detective shows (shinzanmono), good romance (sunao, dosokai, etc).. good drama (mother).. not the best comedy but ok nonetheless (yabe kenzo, hana, kaibutsu kun)..
It is a well-rounded season with no 1-show dominating the scene like JIN in 2009...
I think what made this drama shine is the director for setting the right mood/pace for this dorama.. as well as the convincing acting...
We weren't referring to the ratings. The ratings itself speak for themselves. We (assumingly) were referring to why this thread is so dead, in short, referring to the D-Addicts community and why only a few post there when it's such good drama. I listed they some reasons as to why it is that way.
I currently only watch Mother and Sunao ni Narenakute. I know without checking out the other dramas that most of them are horrendous with a horrid storyline and atrocious acting (applies only to actors I've seen) plus I skip all JE dramas. Those are the worst, IMO. Rinjo might be good but I'm not a big fan of those detective dramas. Koshonin was an exception, though. It was beyond superb.
I currently only watch Mother and Sunao ni Narenakute. I know without checking out the other dramas that most of them are horrendous with a horrid storyline and atrocious acting (applies only to actors I've seen) plus I skip all JE dramas. Those are the worst, IMO. Rinjo might be good but I'm not a big fan of those detective dramas. Koshonin was an exception, though. It was beyond superb.
Yes, it is not overlooked at all. What is overlooked is the fact that dramas also have different genres, like books, movies and music. Even if I like JDrama X, that doesn't mean that JDrama Y is for me, just because it's JDrama. There are viewers (like me) that watch and react favourably to dramas like Mother and Aishiteru - Kaiyou because they like tearjearker dramas. Mother gets uploaded pretty fast, it gets subbed and overall seems to be well received at d-addicts, what more do you want? It is a popular drama. I don't really get people that watch dramas just because they like the actors in them, it is the story, the plot that is important. Doesn't matter if it has a JE actor or other popular actors. And it doesn't make people shallow who enjoy different drama with popular actors. Each and everyone to their own I say. For me Tsuki no Koibito or Sunao ni Narunakute are more boring this season, but other people obviously love it.
Am I wrong? Are they wrong? I don't think so.
For me, I also enjoy Tumbling this season and it falls in the category of "good looking actors in a high school drama" - the complete opposite, I guess? Tumbling was abandoned by the uploaders, so the viewers of that drama really have a reason to complain that their drama is "overlooked" and not the fans of Mother.
By the way, if you like Mother, the same timeslot drama for the last few seasons have been similar. So if people start getting interested in dramas like Mother, just have a look at those series in the same timeslot, they are all pretty good and more like dramatic family stories. My favourite is the mentioned Aishiteru Kaiyo.
About the discussion, there was a bit of a discussion in the subtitle thread.
Am I wrong? Are they wrong? I don't think so.
For me, I also enjoy Tumbling this season and it falls in the category of "good looking actors in a high school drama" - the complete opposite, I guess? Tumbling was abandoned by the uploaders, so the viewers of that drama really have a reason to complain that their drama is "overlooked" and not the fans of Mother.
By the way, if you like Mother, the same timeslot drama for the last few seasons have been similar. So if people start getting interested in dramas like Mother, just have a look at those series in the same timeslot, they are all pretty good and more like dramatic family stories. My favourite is the mentioned Aishiteru Kaiyo.
About the discussion, there was a bit of a discussion in the subtitle thread.
I'm having a hard time with your logic. If the acting is bad, then even the superb storyline can't save it. It's, like, you fry your favorite rice dish and it burns--would you still eat your favorite loved dish even though it's burned? I didn't think so.
And I think actors play a decisive factor when you check upcoming dramas. I think I'm not the only one who first looks for familiar names and then goes title by title to read the synopsis for each upcoming drama. I also didn't say people who watch dramas with popular actors are shallow. They asked for reasons, I listed reasons. I never used the word shallow there so let's stick to what was really said. As for Sunao ni Narenakute, I also find it boring. You can see my comment in the Sunao ni Narenakute thread. I don't like a lot of things that happen in this drama but I still find some things intriguing enough.
I did watch Aishiteru as well and loved it as much as you did. I don't know about Tumbling but I'm guessing it has a lot of JE actors in it. If you like it, good for you. It's all about preferences. And nobody was really complaining here. It was a simple 'they asked--they answered' situation.
And I think actors play a decisive factor when you check upcoming dramas. I think I'm not the only one who first looks for familiar names and then goes title by title to read the synopsis for each upcoming drama. I also didn't say people who watch dramas with popular actors are shallow. They asked for reasons, I listed reasons. I never used the word shallow there so let's stick to what was really said. As for Sunao ni Narenakute, I also find it boring. You can see my comment in the Sunao ni Narenakute thread. I don't like a lot of things that happen in this drama but I still find some things intriguing enough.
I did watch Aishiteru as well and loved it as much as you did. I don't know about Tumbling but I'm guessing it has a lot of JE actors in it. If you like it, good for you. It's all about preferences. And nobody was really complaining here. It was a simple 'they asked--they answered' situation.
Tumbling has not a single JE actor in it.
Yep, but the question was why is it overlooked? And it isn't overlooked. Just my opinion. Of course, you can disagree. And the fact that the discussion doesn't start - well, people discussed it in the subbing thread before. So why don't we pick up from there?
Did I write that you wrote something about shallow? I was just generally speaking, not to you specifically. So far I have yet to see a drama where what you described happened (great story destroyed through bad acting). Or maybe my standards are low when it comes to acting.
And of course you probably start watching a drama for actors you like, but you stay for the plot. (Exception is probably Mother, I doubt people came for the actors....) Anyway, all of this is not about Mother so start discussing by all means.
I don't watch the RAW's because I want to understand, and Mother is very dialogue focused, so I need subs. So the place left of is episode 5 where
Yep, but the question was why is it overlooked? And it isn't overlooked. Just my opinion. Of course, you can disagree. And the fact that the discussion doesn't start - well, people discussed it in the subbing thread before. So why don't we pick up from there?
Did I write that you wrote something about shallow? I was just generally speaking, not to you specifically. So far I have yet to see a drama where what you described happened (great story destroyed through bad acting). Or maybe my standards are low when it comes to acting.
And of course you probably start watching a drama for actors you like, but you stay for the plot. (Exception is probably Mother, I doubt people came for the actors....) Anyway, all of this is not about Mother so start discussing by all means.
I don't watch the RAW's because I want to understand, and Mother is very dialogue focused, so I need subs. So the place left of is episode 5 where
... I have to admit that I really love dramas with simple plots (favourable romantic comedies) with good-looking actors .. you know the kind of dramas where you can guess the ending after watching the first episode...
nevertheless is mother one of my favourite, if not THE favourite drama of this year so far. I love the acting, I really can sympathize with all of the characters, I love the storyline and I think it has just the right pace. And I like that the dialogues are somehow natural and that it's not too overly emotional/dramatic ... <3
nevertheless is mother one of my favourite, if not THE favourite drama of this year so far. I love the acting, I really can sympathize with all of the characters, I love the storyline and I think it has just the right pace. And I like that the dialogues are somehow natural and that it's not too overly emotional/dramatic ... <3
^for me it depends. If there is too much silliness I probably won't like the drama, but I also think it has to do with age of the target group. I like comedy, but prefer more serious storylines. When Aishiteru aired I remember reading it was aimed at japanese women starting at their late 20s, housewives and so on. These drama touch an emotional chord in women, especially because they focus on female characters, female emotions. The relationship between a mother and her child. I think it's one of the most fascinating things. And the universal themes about the feeling of unconditional love that these dramas are touching - it's just so interesting to watch.
I haven't watched that far. Maybe tomorrow if I have some time to spare.
Yet however, I don't see any reason why Tsugumi's mother
I've just started watching ep1 (yeah I'm slow but I just sorta discovered this drama and thanks to the good reviews from the forum, I decided to give it a go)...and I'm satisfied!
It was a bit slow paced at first but I like all the scenes though. The actresses are amazing. The kid especially, total cuteness~
I'm definitely following this drama.
It was a bit slow paced at first but I like all the scenes though. The actresses are amazing. The kid especially, total cuteness~
I'm definitely following this drama.
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Same here. I couldn't help but cry. Especially during all the " know how to cook now. // I know how to spend money. // I know how to wash my hair. // etc."lynchmob72 wrote:Yeah, i hate to admit it, but ep 6 brought a tear to my eye as well. Especially this part:recca_cool wrote:Oh my.. episode 6 made me cry..... I mean really cry ;o;
The most touching scene to me was
I also shed some tears when
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this drama totally awesome. all the while back, right after 1 litre of tears, i haven't found any one drama that can touch my heart like this. yes there were many great drama, but to make me cry..its hard.
teir strong points, imo, are the talented screenwriter and the superb casting. i really like how the writer wrote each scene..each episode. he built-up tension and feeling into each line..and the way each actor and actress (esp Nao and Tsugumi) played their role totally mesmerised the audience.
nevertheless, in ep 6 i can really say, all my feelings were burst into tears at this
teir strong points, imo, are the talented screenwriter and the superb casting. i really like how the writer wrote each scene..each episode. he built-up tension and feeling into each line..and the way each actor and actress (esp Nao and Tsugumi) played their role totally mesmerised the audience.
nevertheless, in ep 6 i can really say, all my feelings were burst into tears at this
As for Nao's foster mother's decision to...(Don't read if you haven't watched ep06)
As for Rena's birth mother, Hitomi, (Don't read if you haven't watched ep08)
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I have been a long-time lurker and after watching this amazing dorama have finally decided to come on board & share.
First, I want to thank Chuks for all the translations – because of your hard work I can fully understand & appreciate everything about this show. I decided to give this dorama a try because the storyline seemed intriguing & I respect Matsuyuki Yasuko’s acting… Anyway,
About episode 8
About Nao’s real mom,
First, I want to thank Chuks for all the translations – because of your hard work I can fully understand & appreciate everything about this show. I decided to give this dorama a try because the storyline seemed intriguing & I respect Matsuyuki Yasuko’s acting… Anyway,
You're welcome. :)verbish wrote: First, I want to thank Chuks for all the translations – because of your hard work I can fully understand & appreciate everything about this show. I decided to give this dorama a try because the storyline seemed intriguing & I respect Matsuyuki Yasuko’s acting… Anyway,
Basically I agree with everything you said., from Matsuyuki's acting to the drama's pacing
and about ep08.
About Nao’s real mom,
I would too, if it weren't for episode 8. Because after watching it, I felt that I could empathize with her, and why/how she became like that.seirin wrote:Rena's mom is turning out to be the most detestable character in the drama. I hope the reporter writes an article about her and the police puts her in jail too.
IMO, she doesn't deserve any pity. She needs a shrink.
Maybe it was the way that episode was written, but I thought it really got across the message of how...
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WOW!!!
...Just finished watching the finale and while some things are expected, they're not done throwing everyone for a loop yet!! This is one of the best stories I have seen in a long time come from Japan.. and the timing could not have been better. Bravo!
Until the RAWs are available, here's a link to a decent streaming version:
http://videonavi.blog66.fc2.com/blog-entry-2284.html
Until the RAWs are available, here's a link to a decent streaming version:
http://videonavi.blog66.fc2.com/blog-entry-2284.html
Chuks,Chuks wrote:On final episode,
First off, thanks for subbing this. I'm still missing some of the parts here and there and it's great to catch those once the subs get released. And now...
The points that you made in your comment are EXACTLY why I feel this is one of the best dramas to come out in years. Probably the last one that moved me like this was "Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu".
More important was the fact that this fictional story faces a REAL issue in Japan - one that both the Yomiuri and Asahi Shimbun has been discussing in greater amounts since the case last year of the American arrested for kidnapping his child in Japan. I do agree with you that the creator of the story is trying to bring this to light as Japan is behind the curve in some ways of protecting children. It's a shame too, because you see stories like this in America - such as "The Blind Side" - and you know that it really does happen. Sometimes the story is truly like a dream... and others, like in "Mother", are a bittersweet story.
Based on some of the discussions going on in here and others parts of the subs thread, I noticed how the supposed open-ended parts/scenes of the story can leave different interpretations, expectations and outlook on the story and characters themselves.
Sometimes even completely unnoticeable too.
For instance:
Just as interesting as it sounds, I'm personally quite impressed that this drama has such a quality, making it so re-watchable.
Sometimes even completely unnoticeable too.
For instance:
You're welcome, garwynn. :)garwynn wrote: Chuks,
First off, thanks for subbing this. I'm still missing some of the parts here and there and it's great to catch those once the subs get released. And now...
The points that you made in your comment are EXACTLY why I feel this is one of the best dramas to come out in years. Probably the last one that moved me like this was "Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu".
I watched Sekai no Chushin, too. Yamada Takayuki is such a good actor.
One more thing I want to point out on final episode,
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I just finished watching Mother. The last episode was great. I loved the ending.
I think I never cried so much watching any drama. There were only 2 episodes where I didn't have tears in my eyes and for 11 I bawled my eyes out. So for me the only drama that can compare to Mother is Aishiteru. When I think about it, nothing moves as much as Mother/Child and family stories. Thinking about the mentioned Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu or 1 Litre of Tears or Mioka, they just don't compare, because, imho, they're very predictable and from moment one they scream at you "I'm a sad, sad drama. Go on, cry!" I didn't shed 1 single tear through 1 Litre of Tears, it didn't move me at all. All these stories just don't compare to a drama like Mother and the wonderful acting. (I enjoyed Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu, though. But for me Byakuyako is much better)
Mother is the kind of drama, though, which I'll surely not watch again in the near future. Watching dramas is always the best the first time around. But for me it's the same with Aishiteru. I cannot stand the emotional rollercoaster and will only come back to it after a few years, I suppose.
Anyway thank you Chuks for subbing it, you did a great job!
Mother is the kind of drama, though, which I'll surely not watch again in the near future. Watching dramas is always the best the first time around. But for me it's the same with Aishiteru. I cannot stand the emotional rollercoaster and will only come back to it after a few years, I suppose.
Anyway thank you Chuks for subbing it, you did a great job!
I had watched the jdrama "First Kiss" a while back and I really liked Matsuyuki Yasuko who played a doctor in that drama. She was the reason I watched this drama "Mother" and made the drama what it was. Sometimes I'll watch a drama cause of the story but it is the characters/actors that make it come alive. Her gentleness and voice makes me wish I had a mother like that, even though I'm a grown man now. Perhaps you're wondering why I find this drama interesting or appealing, well that's because I lost my mother at a young age and even when she was alive, I felt that I didn't really have a mother. I've seen most of the drama's mentioned in this thread but I've enjoyed Mother the most out of all that I have seen so far this year and I watch a lot of drama (about 2/3 series per week). The only jdrama that made me cry every episode was 1 litre of tears even though I tried not to but they were tears of helplessness. There were a few parts of Mother that made me have tears but it felt good, perhaps healing from the past. Maybe I wish I had a mother who would fight for me. I hope there is a sequel or something similar cause it felt unfinished. I hope I don't have to wait 12 years. Reminds me of my last gf about 10 years ago who told me I don't need a gf but rather a mother, dam that biotch, haha...
I agree with you on pretty much everything.MaiKitty wrote:I think I never cried so much watching any drama. There were only 2 episodes where I didn't have tears in my eyes and for 11 I bawled my eyes out. So for me the only drama that can compare to Mother is Aishiteru. When I think about it, nothing moves as much as Mother/Child and family stories. Thinking about the mentioned Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu or 1 Litre of Tears or Mioka, they just don't compare, because, imho, they're very predictable and from moment one they scream at you "I'm a sad, sad drama. Go on, cry!" I didn't shed 1 single tear through 1 Litre of Tears, it didn't move me at all. All these stories just don't compare to a drama like Mother and the wonderful acting. (I enjoyed Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu, though. But for me Byakuyako is much better)!
I totally understand what you mean by "they scream at you "I'm a sad, sad drama. Go on, cry!" " and Mother didn't go too dramatic. The dialogs were simple,
yet deep, and their acting was so natural. The screenwriter didn't write Nao nor Tsugumi as heroines of tragedy, and that's why we could sympathize with them.
The drama was realistic till the end.
(I also liked Byakuyako better than Sekai.)
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There are only 2 doramas that made me ball like a little school girl. Keep in mind that i am not a girl lol. However, if Mother didn't make you shed a tear, you have a heart of stone, and i don't wish to know you.
The only other drama to make me shed a tear was one litre of tears. I balled on that one also lol. I can't help the fact that i'm human.
The only other drama to make me shed a tear was one litre of tears. I balled on that one also lol. I can't help the fact that i'm human.
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