[Discussion] Tsuki no Koibito
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I also think that the ending has been planned since the beginning about Ren/Maemi. The last episode is telling us about the meaning of adult love. It's not about tiggling jiggling feeling finding in a young couple. It's about respect, comfortable, and soul mate relationship.
I, personally, really love this drama.
I, personally, really love this drama.
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lvtk wrote:I also think that the ending has been planned since the beginning about Ren/Maemi. The last episode is telling us about the meaning of adult love. It's not about tiggling jiggling feeling finding in a young couple. It's about respect, comfortable, and soul mate relationship.
I, personally, really love this drama.
I'm still waiting for subs to come out so I haven't fully understood Ep. 8, but from the last 30 mins of raw I saw, I thought those scenes came out very naturally. I didn't think the writer was affected by viewers comments. It was all intended to happen from the very beginning. Maemi has always been in love with Rensuke and they've known each other for 15 years. In those 15 years of friendship, they've experienced and went through a lot together. Even though Rensuke was clueless about that fact in the first 6 episodes, it was only a hairline away for him to realize who is right for him. I agree he once loved Xiu Mei and those feelings were real, but he realized she was not right for him. In adult love, it's not just all about lust, wild, passionate feelings, but more about being comfortable, connected and understanding yourself more through being with the other person. In this case, Maemi understands Rensuke more than Rensuke understands himself. In return, Rensuke also understand Maemi's needs and personalities as a friend until he realizes what love is all about.jesamine wrote:
I once heard from someone that "The one you are passionate about might not be the right person for you to love." The "Right" person should be someone who knows you more than you know yourself. I believe that's the reason why we search for a "sole mate" in life not because we can't live on our own, but so that the two people can be complete with one another.
This is all just what I think.......
Just like what Maemi -san said to Ren:
"Sorry if all of these sounded weird to you. Don't mind it if it doesn't make sense."
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lol! Me too!!cya18 wrote:that's it. i want an SP.
And I agree with Joisuramu
"I didn't think the writer was affected by viewers comments. It was all intended to happen from the very beginning. "
Yup. I felt that too even though somewhere in the middle because of all the "noise" the fandom was receiving about the different parings, I got alittle lost. But after watching ep7 and the last 30mins of ep 8, I agree. The story has been intended to be that way. The writers were going to use three actresses and the dynamics between the lead and them is the crux of the drama.
Who ends up with who is what we as viewers had to watch and find out. And I remember the producers saying way early on that we viewers will not find out who Ren likes till the end. And they didn't disappoint us did they? lol
After watching the finale raw I also think the pairing was planned from the start. And I now appreciate this drama much much more than before. I just wish they had balanced things a little bit better with Maemi, Xiu Mei, and Yuzuki in previous episodes.
I always like Kitagawa Keiko but this drama mades me love her. With every scenes that she had no matter how little screen time it is, she made me feel for Yuzuki and fall in love with her.
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Hi, I've been a silent lurker on this board, but I too would like to comment on this drama =)nnnc wrote:After watching the finale raw I also think the pairing was planned from the start. And I now appreciate this drama much much more than before. I just wish they had balanced things a little bit better with Maemi, Xiu Mei, and Yuzuki in previous episodes.
I always like Kitagawa Keiko but this drama mades me love her. With every scenes that she had no matter how little screen time it is, she made me feel for Yuzuki and fall in love with her.
I watched the last scene of last episode (raw) more than 3 times! Although I don't understand any contents (I have to watch with sub), I came to understand clearly why they claimed about this drama in the beginning that it was Kimura's true love drama after his 10 years. It's sad that audiences misled the director's intention for what they want to tell the story during the earlier episodes and caused the rating was not as high as it should be. The director was so right that audiences would not know until the last minute who Ren would end up with.. it is really very last minute!
Audiences expect to see 'young Kimura' with his charming but the truth is Kimura has grown up to be a man. I admire Kimura as a very good actor that he has his courage to change his role based on his age. I hope he will have a very good acting like this to the public continously. Kimura is one of excellent actors, really. He is the number one on my list.
This drama makes me want to love as the claim.. IF I could meet my soul mate like Ren and Maemi!!
I hope Kitagawa Keiko will be happy with her success with this drama. Although her role is the third but she proved that she is only after her senior Shinohara.
Audiences expect to see 'young Kimura' with his charming but the truth is Kimura has grown up to be a man. I admire Kimura as a very good actor that he has his courage to change his role based on his age. I hope he will have a very good acting like this to the public continously. Kimura is one of excellent actors, really. He is the number one on my list.
I hope Kitagawa Keiko will be happy with her success with this drama. Although her role is the third but she proved that she is only after her senior Shinohara.
Well from all the spoilers I read (which isn't much, because I still wanna watch the episode), I know who Rensuke ends up with. <3
My only gripe with that (yeah I know, I would've griped more if he had gotten with Xiu Mei) is that I really, REALLY, doubt that would've happened in real life.
Knowing him for fifteen years without anything happening...I don't know. Sometimes when you've known each other that long, you miss a lot of things. And from what I've noticed, guys tend to go for girls like Xiu Mei.
But I'm still happy it happened anyways. Totally waiting to watch it with subs!
My only gripe with that (yeah I know, I would've griped more if he had gotten with Xiu Mei) is that I really, REALLY, doubt that would've happened in real life.
Knowing him for fifteen years without anything happening...I don't know. Sometimes when you've known each other that long, you miss a lot of things. And from what I've noticed, guys tend to go for girls like Xiu Mei.
But I'm still happy it happened anyways. Totally waiting to watch it with subs!
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she is really different in some of her most famous roles. Very much like Amami Yuki's way of acting - strong type of womenvoldemort wrote:There is something I really enjoyed about Maemi, it's her speaking way... it sounded like she was singing a nice song... always...
This was the first one I saw with her, so I'm wondering... is she acting so in other drama too ?
So different that at first when I heard she was casted to act alongside KimuTaku, I couldnt imagine it.
Yes! thats why people love her, like Kimutaku, she has a reputation of a being a very effective actress, especially scenes that emotions are needed to be delivered. basically, she can make the audience yearn for her, that her fine quality. i dont know how she does it, probably due to experiencevoldemort wrote:There is something I really enjoyed about Maemi, it's her speaking way... it sounded like she was singing a nice song... always...
This was the first one I saw with her, so I'm wondering... is she acting so in other drama too ?
So, you can watch her in Anego ( very very recommended!, she carries this drama alone), , Unfair , Mukodono and Mukodono 2003.
You forgot Haken no Hinkaku. Solid perfornance!cya18 wrote:Yes! thats why people love her, like Kimutaku, she has a reputation of a being a very effective actress, especially scenes that emotions are needed to be delivered. basically, she can make the audience yearn for her, that her fine quality. i dont know how she does it, probably due to experiencevoldemort wrote:There is something I really enjoyed about Maemi, it's her speaking way... it sounded like she was singing a nice song... always...
This was the first one I saw with her, so I'm wondering... is she acting so in other drama too ?
So, you can watch her in Anego ( very very recommended!, she carries this drama alone), , Unfair , Mukodono and Mukodono 2003.
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minna san,
you would have to watch it with subs, then everything makes perfect sense! the dynamics of maemi ren has been intentional,which makes the ending conversation at the door is especially great! very cute conversation after the camera pans out hahaha i can imagine what they're doing.
fine performance overall, all nuances and little details very funny , the two assistants really made the show more refined! they actually make the show work rather than just being there. wished episode 1 to 4 was top notch like this.yuzuki really redeemed herself and had the most progression in this episode.
kazami is also doing well, dont lose hope with him.
as of xiu mei, well, she'll be healthy(genki)
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you would have to watch it with subs, then everything makes perfect sense! the dynamics of maemi ren has been intentional,which makes the ending conversation at the door is especially great! very cute conversation after the camera pans out hahaha i can imagine what they're doing.
kazami is also doing well, dont lose hope with him.
as of xiu mei, well, she'll be healthy(genki)
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please watch more jdramas for your own sake.Anon. wrote:That was totally THE cutest Japanese ending ever. EVER!
I don't want to be rude, really, but... I can't find the ending appropriate.
I quite liked the final episode, specially all the Yuzu part (I love her, it's the first time I like a Kitagawa character o_O) was well developed... but the final part...
I have only seen Ep.8 without subs. Got the gist of it however, What I can not understand is people mentioning that they did not like the wedding. What Wedding????? I did not see any wedding ceremony. Just saw them driving along in Rensuke's convertible and Maemi was wearing her wedding dress. Also I was very amused seeing Kimura ending his role wearing his Johnny Depp hat. One of them anyway.
Was there a wedding scene that I missed??
Once I get the English subs I think I will write about this drama again. Right now it is the 'wedding' that puzzles me.
Anyone help please???
Peggy
Was there a wedding scene that I missed??
Once I get the English subs I think I will write about this drama again. Right now it is the 'wedding' that puzzles me.
Anyone help please???
Peggy
I want to learn more about Kazami too but I think I know enough of Xiu Mei already Instead of giving us more background on Xiu Mei, less of her and more on Maemi and Yuzuki would be much better.Misato-san wrote:I quite enjoyed this drama but the lack of background of certain characters (Kazami but also Xiu Mei) pissed me. As expected from Asano Taeko (truly hate her scripts! this one at least was decent) >_<
About the ending, I agree that it's not the BEST EVA (Long Vacation still holds that special honor, IMO) but it's cute.
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My problem with Xiu Mei is... we had tons of scenes with her but only a few with real substance.
If you compare 10 minutes of Xiu Mei and a single minute of Yuzu-chan or Maemi... the Xiu Mei ones lack of something that makes you feel something for her... you can't even really understand what she's thinking about...
I also liked the too... at last U_U
If you compare 10 minutes of Xiu Mei and a single minute of Yuzu-chan or Maemi... the Xiu Mei ones lack of something that makes you feel something for her... you can't even really understand what she's thinking about...
I also liked the
There is no wedding scene. I think the convertible scene is an implied 'after wedding' scene, with wedding dress and wedding ring. i knew that 8 episodes was a mistake. i can feel like theres some gap here and there, like after the airport scene i would like to see Rensuke reflect for sometime but we get straight to the ending scene, probably sthe day after/several days after the airport scene..Peggy wrote:I have only seen Ep.8 without subs. Got the gist of it however, What I can not understand is people mentioning that they did not like the wedding. What Wedding????? I did not see any wedding ceremony. Just saw them driving along in Rensuke's convertible and Maemi was wearing her wedding dress. Also I was very amused seeing Kimura ending his role wearing his Johnny Depp hat. One of them anyway.
Was there a wedding scene that I missed??
Once I get the English subs I think I will write about this drama again. Right now it is the 'wedding' that puzzles me.
Anyone help please???
Peggy
you can watch the ones with eng subs here: http://www.viikii.net/channels/goto/moonlovers#
LOL. I've watched a lot of jdrama's...trust me. The only one's I actually haven't watched are the solely romantic ones, which I personally can't stand.Misato-san wrote:please watch more jdramas for your own sake.Anon. wrote:That was totally THE cutest Japanese ending ever. EVER!
I don't want to be rude, really, but... I can't find the ending appropriate.
but the worst part was the wedding... totally out. I hated it because the two of them together where enough[/spoiler]
I didn't think it was that out there though...it was an epilogue. But idk. To each his own I guess.
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I like the ending, I like the last 2 episodes because I don't have to bear with LCL. I understand it's not easy for her acting in foreign language, but that's means she's not ready to take the role. I mean I saw Treasure Hunter, I don't mind here there although I wasn't crazy about her.
And Kimutaku old charmed work with me when talked to Maemi while fixing the door... arrgghhhh.... hehehehee.. overall I'm quite happy following this dorama thanks to the ending.
And Kimutaku old charmed work with me when talked to Maemi while fixing the door... arrgghhhh.... hehehehee.. overall I'm quite happy following this dorama thanks to the ending.
cya18,
Many thanks for answering my question re the wedding. I had a time getting the vikii to work and I ended up with Spanish subs at first. finally the Eng. ones popped up. I just watched the last part pf the last episode and will watch it from the beginning over the weekend.
I think I liked the ending although it was a little thin in the romantic feeling for a Kimura drama. I laughed at the car driving scene however, and even then Kimura managed to get his Johnny Depp hat into the drama. I think I would have liked Maemi to be more awake for the ending.
Otherwise a very satisfactory last episode. Loved Yuzuki and she turned in a really good acting job. Too bad we had to go through so much of LCL. I am sure that brought down the rating with so much emphasis on her character.
Peggy
Many thanks for answering my question re the wedding. I had a time getting the vikii to work and I ended up with Spanish subs at first. finally the Eng. ones popped up. I just watched the last part pf the last episode and will watch it from the beginning over the weekend.
I think I liked the ending although it was a little thin in the romantic feeling for a Kimura drama. I laughed at the car driving scene however, and even then Kimura managed to get his Johnny Depp hat into the drama. I think I would have liked Maemi to be more awake for the ending.
Otherwise a very satisfactory last episode. Loved Yuzuki and she turned in a really good acting job. Too bad we had to go through so much of LCL. I am sure that brought down the rating with so much emphasis on her character.
Peggy
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Since reading the comments here about the ending, I'm motivated to pick up this drama again. Yes, my preferred pairing prevailed....yippee! I kinda lost interest after episode 4 cuz of too much XM. Can't stand LCL's poor acting and whiny voice, and I didn't buy her relationship with Rensuke either. No chemistry. Meh.
Now Maemi and Rensuke is a whole 'nother matter. Soulmates indeed.
Now Maemi and Rensuke is a whole 'nother matter. Soulmates indeed.
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Is it really 8 episodes? I know 8 episodes was shown but techincally if it wasn't for the soccer wouldn't it have been 10 episodes as planned? The "last" episode was 2hrs and 15mins which would have been 3 episodes. I think they should've done was less story of Xiu Mei [who wasn't a really interesting character] and focus more on the other characters. Would've loved it more had it had more romantic scenes leading up to the "Kiss". But the ending was cute ^_^.
To sum it up...
For Rensuke-Xiumei's shippers, I recommend you to watch Ep. 1 - 6 only.
Why? Because Xiumei (who got so much focus from the beginning) suddenly forgotten by the writer in Ep. 7-8, and it was almost like she was only passing by in the last 2 eps
For Rensuke-Maemi's shippers, I recommend you to skip Ep. 4 - 6.
"What? So I should just watch Ep.1 - 3 and then directly Ep. 7 - 8? But then I would be confused with the story since I won't know what happened in Ep.4-6?". Trust me. You'll be more confused if you watch Ep. 4 - 6
LOL. Okay, pls no offense. Just my way of expressing how I feel abt the drama
For Rensuke-Xiumei's shippers, I recommend you to watch Ep. 1 - 6 only.
Why? Because Xiumei (who got so much focus from the beginning) suddenly forgotten by the writer in Ep. 7-8, and it was almost like she was only passing by in the last 2 eps
For Rensuke-Maemi's shippers, I recommend you to skip Ep. 4 - 6.
"What? So I should just watch Ep.1 - 3 and then directly Ep. 7 - 8? But then I would be confused with the story since I won't know what happened in Ep.4-6?". Trust me. You'll be more confused if you watch Ep. 4 - 6
LOL. Okay, pls no offense. Just my way of expressing how I feel abt the drama
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Hey don't forget about the Maemi x Kazami shippers. You left them out. lol.yanie wrote:To sum it up...
For Rensuke-Xiumei's shippers, I recommend you to watch Ep. 1 - 6 only.
Why? Because Xiumei (who got so much focus from the beginning) suddenly forgotten by the writer in Ep. 7-8, and it was almost like she was only passing by in the last 2 eps
For Rensuke-Maemi's shippers, I recommend you to skip Ep. 4 - 6.
"What? So I should just watch Ep.1 - 3 and then directly Ep. 7 - 8? But then I would be confused with the story since I won't know what happened in Ep.4-6?". Trust me. You'll be more confused if you watch Ep. 4 - 6
LOL. Okay, pls no offense. Just my way of expressing how I feel abt the drama
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What?! Am I wasting my time downloading eps 5 & 6 now? Maybe I should just delete my torrents and skip to downloading eps 7 & 8.yanie wrote:To sum it up...
For Rensuke-Maemi's shippers, I recommend you to skip Ep. 4 - 6.
"What? So I should just watch Ep.1 - 3 and then directly Ep. 7 - 8? But then I would be confused with the story since I won't know what happened in Ep.4-6?". Trust me. You'll be more confused if you watch Ep. 4 - 6
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Yeah, there was too much of XM in the beginning. I thought Ren and her were going to end up but surprisingly they shifted the plot and focused on Maemi. Though the last episode was great but I think not too many viewers like XM-Ren. Personally, I don't like her voice in drama, it's too flirty. And episode 8 was a little rushed.
Aw, sorry, I'm afraid you are Ep. 5 & 6 were the worst. I can still take Ep.4.hanapyupyu wrote:What?! Am I wasting my time downloading eps 5 & 6 now? Maybe I should just delete my torrents and skip to downloading eps 7 & 8.
5,6 were just plain...
But its okay, you can always watch it in a fast-forward mode
totallyyanie wrote:Oh, KazaEmi shippers may watch all the episodes, their story and their relationship makes sense from the beginning to the end, nothing's confusing abt them ^_^
oops forgot to put those under spoiler tags~
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Finally, I can watch the last episode with sub. Personally, I like the ending. I think it's perfect. It's not too unrealistic sweet and not too dull either.
I think the constraint of this drama is timing. Due to a high cost of casts and productions, it has to end quick.
As the result, there was no enough time to explain everything as it should be. Moreover, LCL's weak acting did drop audiences' interest along the way.
Personally, I think the story line wasn't bad. It could actually happen in real life.
I believe many of us loved and to be loved more than once, or might have been through the situation of rejecting and being rejected by someone, or felt so "madly in love" just "because.." and then that feeling was away leaving only memories to be there just "because.." as well.
There were times that we could be only "a sister or brother" for someone no matter how hard we tried to win that heart. There were times that we felt "alone" and tried to win something to feel our existence in this world. And there were times that we kept watching someone's back just because we loved and was happy to do that no matter what.
What I got from this drama is people connect to people from heart naturally. It can't be forced and faked. Thank you this drama for reminding me that "We aren't all alone" although there are many times that we are alone.
Sorry!!.. too serious
I want to thank all who worked very hard for providing sub to this drama so fast each week. Thank you very much!!
As the result, there was no enough time to explain everything as it should be. Moreover, LCL's weak acting did drop audiences' interest along the way.
Personally, I think the story line wasn't bad. It could actually happen in real life.
I believe many of us loved and to be loved more than once, or might have been through the situation of rejecting and being rejected by someone, or felt so "madly in love" just "because.." and then that feeling was away leaving only memories to be there just "because.." as well.
There were times that we could be only "a sister or brother" for someone no matter how hard we tried to win that heart. There were times that we felt "alone" and tried to win something to feel our existence in this world. And there were times that we kept watching someone's back just because we loved and was happy to do that no matter what.
What I got from this drama is people connect to people from heart naturally. It can't be forced and faked. Thank you this drama for reminding me that "We aren't all alone" although there are many times that we are alone.
Sorry!!.. too serious
I want to thank all who worked very hard for providing sub to this drama so fast each week. Thank you very much!!
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This is very well said. Thank you for writing that out!lvtk wrote:Finally, I can watch the last episode with sub. Personally, I like the ending. I think it's perfect. It's not too unrealistic sweet and not too dull either.
I think the constraint of this drama is timing. Due to a high cost of casts and productions, it has to end quick.
As the result, there was no enough time to explain everything as it should be. Moreover, LCL's weak acting did drop audiences' interest along the way.
Personally, I think the story line wasn't bad. It could actually happen in real life.
I believe many of us loved and to be loved more than once, or might have been through the situation of rejecting and being rejected by someone, or felt so "madly in love" just "because.." and then that feeling was away leaving only memories to be there just "because.." as well.
There were times that we could be only "a sister or brother" for someone no matter how hard we tried to win that heart. There were times that we felt "alone" and tried to win something to feel our existence in this world. And there were times that we kept watching someone's back just because we loved and was happy to do that no matter what.
What I got from this drama is people connect to people from heart naturally. It can't be forced and faked. Thank you this drama for reminding me that "We aren't all alone" although there are many times that we are alone.
Sorry!!.. too serious
I want to thank all who worked very hard for providing sub to this drama so fast each week. Thank you very much!!
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I was waiting for someone to say this! I have to agree entirely. I loved the ending. I admit that I definitely waivered in my resolve that it would end the way I wanted but I never jumped ship.
Overall, I think that my initial thoughts that XM would open Ren up to who he really loved could have been incorrect. I figured that XM was never "it" but that she would push him to Maemi, however that's not what really happened. Maemi was always the one that helped him. XM was just some girl that he fell for. She didn't really change him at all. I find it ironic that even though he does change, he doesn't go back to her. He stuck to his idea that she and he weren't right for one another.
Many are right that it would've been nice to see more of other characters, but ultimately, I loved the show. I feel that its a testament that its possible to love more than one person and not compromise.
There is so much more I could say about
Hope everyone can mark this off their list. Thank you everyone for great conversation, spoilers and fellow viewership. Loved every second!
Many are right that it would've been nice to see more of other characters, but ultimately, I loved the show. I feel that its a testament that its possible to love more than one person and not compromise.
There is so much more I could say about
notoriousnoona,
I want to agree with you regarding Kazami. I felt his telling Maemi that he was bitter and vengefull because of what his father always told him was weak. It was not strong enough to make him do all the dastardly things he did to Rensuke. He could have wrecked tthe company Regolith as well as the owner . The reason was childish. I always wanted to know wny he was so vicious, and I needed a good reason for his actions. Never got anything that made sense.
I am still not sure why he was able to take over Regolith even tho he was in cahoots with the other company. You would think he would want to be the boss all on his own. so what did he accomplish? He didn't get Maemi.
Peg
I want to agree with you regarding Kazami. I felt his telling Maemi that he was bitter and vengefull because of what his father always told him was weak. It was not strong enough to make him do all the dastardly things he did to Rensuke. He could have wrecked tthe company Regolith as well as the owner . The reason was childish. I always wanted to know wny he was so vicious, and I needed a good reason for his actions. Never got anything that made sense.
I am still not sure why he was able to take over Regolith even tho he was in cahoots with the other company. You would think he would want to be the boss all on his own. so what did he accomplish? He didn't get Maemi.
Peg
Kazami doesn't need Maemi. He likes her and I think admires her but he's not the type to cling. Especially not towards someone who doesn't have feelings for him. He wanted Regolith though. Since he's been poor before, he wants to climb up to the top now for power and money. He might be under Mastpole, but at least he's running Regolith. He was doing the dirty work for Ren and being sent about. Now he does the ordering and sending people to do the work.Peggy wrote:notoriousnoona,
I want to agree with you regarding Kazami. I felt his telling Maemi that he was bitter and vengefull because of what his father always told him was weak. It was not strong enough to make him do all the dastardly things he did to Rensuke. He could have wrecked tthe company Regolith as well as the owner . The reason was childish. I always wanted to know wny he was so vicious, and I needed a good reason for his actions. Never got anything that made sense.
I am still not sure why he was able to take over Regolith even tho he was in cahoots with the other company. You would think he would want to be the boss all on his own. so what did he accomplish? He didn't get Maemi.
Peg
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i don't know about you guys, but i like the ending scene...it kinda signifies that his relationship with maemi is deep and strong enough for him to actually succumb to marriage!LOL
seriously though, i think they had to put that in to show the audience that their is a finality as to the pairings...just being together in the end doesn't mean anything unless you get married. of course, marriage nowadays can be easily revoked through annulment or divorce but the point is that it is one of the most important decisions in your life and you don't go through with it unless you're really really sure of your partner--that they're the one you want to be with for the rest of your life. so there...
oh yeah, i loved how ren called maemi by her first name as well !anyway, this validated my idea that he was already in love with her from the start (or maybe i'm just fangirling!LOL ). japanese guys who are as reserved as ren's character tend to not show their closeness to the person by not using their first name. so ren calling maemi 'ninomiya' is his way of denying his feelings for her. of course, like i said, i could just be on full fangirl mode right now and am overanalyzing everything!lol nonetheless, my favored pairing ended up in the end so yatta!!!!
still, i feel bad for kazami but xumei?!GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!
seriously though, i think they had to put that in to show the audience that their is a finality as to the pairings...just being together in the end doesn't mean anything unless you get married. of course, marriage nowadays can be easily revoked through annulment or divorce but the point is that it is one of the most important decisions in your life and you don't go through with it unless you're really really sure of your partner--that they're the one you want to be with for the rest of your life. so there...
oh yeah, i loved how ren called maemi by her first name as well !anyway, this validated my idea that he was already in love with her from the start (or maybe i'm just fangirling!LOL ). japanese guys who are as reserved as ren's character tend to not show their closeness to the person by not using their first name. so ren calling maemi 'ninomiya' is his way of denying his feelings for her. of course, like i said, i could just be on full fangirl mode right now and am overanalyzing everything!lol nonetheless, my favored pairing ended up in the end so yatta!!!!
still, i feel bad for kazami but xumei?!GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!
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The last word? Well I now have the hard subs so I will remember to listen for the last word.
I like the ending and I like the last two episodes very much. I will always be sure that the poor ratings are on the shoulders of Lin Chi Ling and the producers who gave her so much screen time.
I am wondering..Is P and G...Procter and Gamble?? or a Japanese company??
I think this total rating is the lowest I can remember for a Kimura drama. I don't go much by ratings myself but I know the Drama companies hold their breath.
The wonderful rating go to 'Ryoma' which is well over 20% for every episode and it is not yet finished showing here in US.
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I like the ending and I like the last two episodes very much. I will always be sure that the poor ratings are on the shoulders of Lin Chi Ling and the producers who gave her so much screen time.
I am wondering..Is P and G...Procter and Gamble?? or a Japanese company??
I think this total rating is the lowest I can remember for a Kimura drama. I don't go much by ratings myself but I know the Drama companies hold their breath.
The wonderful rating go to 'Ryoma' which is well over 20% for every episode and it is not yet finished showing here in US.
Peggy
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maybe because of her poor acting?lollercopter wrote:She's a main character, of course she has a lot of screen time. But why is it her fault that the show had relatively low ratings?Peggy wrote:I will always be sure that the poor ratings are on the shoulders of Lin Chi Ling and the producers who gave her so much screen time.
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ok..finally was able to watch it with subs today!yatta!!!got a lot of things wrong with just reading the body language...but overall am satisfied with the ending and feel like it conforms to my thoughts on this drama...
...or maybe not quite satisfied, am itching for an SP right now. i don't care what the plot will be about just as long as i get more kawaii moments of ren and maemi!!!!
...or maybe not quite satisfied, am itching for an SP right now. i don't care what the plot will be about just as long as i get more kawaii moments of ren and maemi!!!!
Well, I wouldn't rate Tacky along with LCL's acting. Tacky is above that. At least his eyes can project energy. I can't read any expressions from LCL.20centuryboy wrote:I don't think someone's poor acting can ruin a drama's audience rating. Many Takizawa Hideaki featured dramas had great audience in the past and his acting skills are even worth than LCL.
And yes, poor acting can affect ratings. If you have a well written story line, but bad acting, ratings go down. If you have a good acting cast but poor script. Ratings will go down too.
You need both good script and good acting to make the ratings go up. With a few exceptions. *ya*cough*ma*cough*pi*
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join this community @ljfayewolf wrote:Are there subs available to download for the final episode besides watching it in vikii? I want to re-watch this so bad but want to watch it on my TV!!!
http://community.livejournal.com/ohsmapsubs/
oops, sorry, i was thinking about the final episode , but ohsmapsubs only have it up to sp6? Or am i reading it wrong?MisS Lonliah wrote:join this community @ljfayewolf wrote:Are there subs available to download for the final episode besides watching it in vikii? I want to re-watch this so bad but want to watch it on my TV!!!
http://community.livejournal.com/ohsmapsubs/
hmm your reasoning sounds logical but maybe too. I am a XM and rensuke shipper, but even when my pairing was looking great in ep 4 or 5, i actually dropped the drama. I stopped watching after ep 4 or was it 5? Can't remember... So i dont think it has to do with the acting, in my case. I just lost interest with the plot. . (Then when i heard about the ending, i decided to visit this forum to see maemi x rensuke shipper's reaction, because i know there were a lot, just out of curiosity, since many were depressed of what was happening in ep4/5)seirin wrote:Well, I wouldn't rate Tacky along with LCL's acting. Tacky is above that. At least his eyes can project energy. I can't read any expressions from LCL.20centuryboy wrote:I don't think someone's poor acting can ruin a drama's audience rating. Many Takizawa Hideaki featured dramas had great audience in the past and his acting skills are even worth than LCL.
And yes, poor acting can affect ratings. If you have a well written story line, but bad acting, ratings go down. If you have a good acting cast but poor script. Ratings will go down too.
You need both good script and good acting to make the ratings go up. With a few exceptions. *ya*cough*ma*cough*pi*
but yeah, if her acting was better, XM would have the potential to get more shippers on her side, but more viewers? maybe or maybe not.
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Yes I know that you were talking about the final episode! They already released the subs of the final episode on Thursday. All you need to do is to join their community! ^^fayewolf wrote:oops, sorry, i was thinking about the final episode , but ohsmapsubs only have it up to sp6? Or am i reading it wrong?MisS Lonliah wrote:join this community @ljfayewolf wrote:Are there subs available to download for the final episode besides watching it in vikii? I want to re-watch this so bad but want to watch it on my TV!!!
http://community.livejournal.com/ohsmapsubs/
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dramaddex wrote:hmm your reasoning sounds logical but maybe too. I am a XM and rensuke shipper, but even when my pairing was looking great in ep 4 or 5, i actually dropped the drama. I stopped watching after ep 4 or was it 5? Can't remember... So i dont think it has to do with the acting, in my case. I just lost interest with the plot. . (Then when i heard about the ending, i decided to visit this forum to see maemi x rensuke shipper's reaction, because i know there were a lot, just out of curiosity, since many were depressed of what was happening in ep4/5)seirin wrote:Well, I wouldn't rate Tacky along with LCL's acting. Tacky is above that. At least his eyes can project energy. I can't read any expressions from LCL.20centuryboy wrote:I don't think someone's poor acting can ruin a drama's audience rating. Many Takizawa Hideaki featured dramas had great audience in the past and his acting skills are even worth than LCL.
And yes, poor acting can affect ratings. If you have a well written story line, but bad acting, ratings go down. If you have a good acting cast but poor script. Ratings will go down too.
You need both good script and good acting to make the ratings go up. With a few exceptions. *ya*cough*ma*cough*pi*
but yeah, if her acting was better, XM would have the potential to get more shippers on her side, but more viewers? maybe or maybe not.
Gosh, here I am stuck on chapter 5 and waiting for the other ones to come with Eng subs, but I think I'll just get the raw stuff.
I haven't read any spoilers (simply hate them ^^) and I'm not particularly cheering for anyone though... But I think that LCL main problem could be the language barrier. There are somethings that you can express only with your body language and others with words; mainly, we express ourselves using both of them. Judging on her accent (I really don't know if she can speaks Japanese, it sounds more like she's just begun learning it) I would say she's having some trouble with it. But I guess she'll manage soon enough.
Aaaand of course, we have Shinohara - a great Japanese actress, beautiful and skillful. So I think it's pretty obvious that most people would cheer up for her.
Me, I'm always cheering for the Actor in a Supporting Role: MATSUDA SHOTA!!!
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