[Discussion] Keizoku 2: SPEC
[Discussion] Keizoku 2: SPEC
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Title: ケイゾク 2: SPEC
Title (romaji): Keizoku 2: SPEC
Tagline: 警視庁公安部 公安第五課未詳事件特別対策係事件簿/Keishichou Kouanbu Kouan Daigoka Mishou Jiken Tokubetsu Taisakugakari Jikenbo
Format: Renzoku
Genre: Mystery
Episodes: TBA
Viewership ratings:
Broadcast network: TBS
Broadcast period: 2010-Oct-08 -
Air time: Friday 22.00
Theme song: THE RICECOOKERS: NAMIno YUKUSAKI
Related TV shows: Keizoku
Synopsis:
Like the original series, "SPEC" will revolve around a pair of police detectives as part of a special division solving difficult cases (Mishou). Touma Saya is a woman with an IQ of 201 and an inability to "read the atmosphere" in social situations. Due to a previous case, her left arm is in a sling. Her partner Sebumi Takeru used to be the star performer of the Metropolitan Police. After some incident however, he was transferred to Mishou. Those two track down offenders with special abilities(SPEC) who managed to get away with their crimes.
Cast:
Toda Erika as Toma Saya
Kase Ryo as Sebumi Takeru
Fukuda Saki as Shimura Misuzu
Shirota Yu as Chii Satoshi
Tanaka Tetsushi as Reizei Toshiaki
Kamiki Ryunosuke as Ninomae Juichi
Shiina Kippei as Tsuda Sukehiro
Ryu Raita as Nonomura Kotaro
Ito Takeshi (伊藤毅) as Shimura Yusaku
Tokui Yuu as Kondo Akio
Yasuda Ken as Unno Ryota
Okada Kohki as Baba Kaoru
Matsuzawa Kazuyuki as Shikaima Ayumu
Sainei Ryuji (載寧 龍二) as Inomada Souji
Arimura Kasumi (有村架純) as Masaki Miyabi
Production Credits:
Screenwriter: Nishiogi Yumie
Producer: Ueda Hiroki
Director: Tsutsumi Yukihiko, Imai Natsuki, Kaneko Fuminori
Music: Shibuya Keiichiro (渋谷慶一郎), Gabriel Robert
Official web site:
http://www.tbs.co.jp/spec2010/
First impression:
Unlike the original where the first 2/3rd of the series are pretty much conventional mysteries, ep.1 while still being a mystery, already contains sci-fi/super-natural elements (very similar to some episodes in the 1st season of the Fox show "Fringe", or the non-alien invasion episodes of X-Files). So looks like the producer/writer/director know where they're going this time, unlike the original where they changed directions abruptly in the final third and turned it into a complete mess. IMO the 2 new leads pail in comparison to those in the original (both acting wise and chemistry), and I also prefer the original's theme song and score. Still, ep.1 is quite interesting/intriguing so there's now at least 1 drama I look forward to every week in the new season.
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Title: ケイゾク 2: SPEC
Title (romaji): Keizoku 2: SPEC
Tagline: 警視庁公安部 公安第五課未詳事件特別対策係事件簿/Keishichou Kouanbu Kouan Daigoka Mishou Jiken Tokubetsu Taisakugakari Jikenbo
Format: Renzoku
Genre: Mystery
Episodes: TBA
Viewership ratings:
Broadcast network: TBS
Broadcast period: 2010-Oct-08 -
Air time: Friday 22.00
Theme song: THE RICECOOKERS: NAMIno YUKUSAKI
Related TV shows: Keizoku
Synopsis:
Like the original series, "SPEC" will revolve around a pair of police detectives as part of a special division solving difficult cases (Mishou). Touma Saya is a woman with an IQ of 201 and an inability to "read the atmosphere" in social situations. Due to a previous case, her left arm is in a sling. Her partner Sebumi Takeru used to be the star performer of the Metropolitan Police. After some incident however, he was transferred to Mishou. Those two track down offenders with special abilities(SPEC) who managed to get away with their crimes.
Cast:
Toda Erika as Toma Saya
Kase Ryo as Sebumi Takeru
Fukuda Saki as Shimura Misuzu
Shirota Yu as Chii Satoshi
Tanaka Tetsushi as Reizei Toshiaki
Kamiki Ryunosuke as Ninomae Juichi
Shiina Kippei as Tsuda Sukehiro
Ryu Raita as Nonomura Kotaro
Ito Takeshi (伊藤毅) as Shimura Yusaku
Tokui Yuu as Kondo Akio
Yasuda Ken as Unno Ryota
Okada Kohki as Baba Kaoru
Matsuzawa Kazuyuki as Shikaima Ayumu
Sainei Ryuji (載寧 龍二) as Inomada Souji
Arimura Kasumi (有村架純) as Masaki Miyabi
Production Credits:
Screenwriter: Nishiogi Yumie
Producer: Ueda Hiroki
Director: Tsutsumi Yukihiko, Imai Natsuki, Kaneko Fuminori
Music: Shibuya Keiichiro (渋谷慶一郎), Gabriel Robert
Official web site:
http://www.tbs.co.jp/spec2010/
First impression:
Unlike the original where the first 2/3rd of the series are pretty much conventional mysteries, ep.1 while still being a mystery, already contains sci-fi/super-natural elements (very similar to some episodes in the 1st season of the Fox show "Fringe", or the non-alien invasion episodes of X-Files). So looks like the producer/writer/director know where they're going this time, unlike the original where they changed directions abruptly in the final third and turned it into a complete mess. IMO the 2 new leads pail in comparison to those in the original (both acting wise and chemistry), and I also prefer the original's theme song and score. Still, ep.1 is quite interesting/intriguing so there's now at least 1 drama I look forward to every week in the new season.
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I haven't watched the original series and expected usual detective dorama so I was quite surprised by super-natural elements. But I think it's refreshing to watch a mystery once in a while, especially after boring real-life doramas.
I liked how weird Toda's character is but sometimes she overacts a little, imho)
I liked how weird Toda's character is but sometimes she overacts a little, imho)
Unfortunately, I agree. I like her character but I feel like Toda Erika was miscast. I can't help but to think Kanno Miho or Ueno Juri would have rocked the role a little better.NoraThorn wrote:I haven't watched the original series and expected usual detective dorama so I was quite surprised by super-natural elements. But I think it's refreshing to watch a mystery once in a while, especially after boring real-life doramas.
I liked how weird Toda's character is but sometimes she overacts a little, imho)
But besides that, awesome start! Kase Ryo is so bad ass and cool.
I'm also of the opinion that the acting skills required for Toda Erika's character is a bit out of her league here. If you've seen the original, Nakatani Miki's character retained her eccentricity throughout, even after she solved the cases and explained her rationale to everyone, whereas Toda Erika suddenly becomes this super, kick-ass detective when she revealed who the murderer is and how the crime was committed. So her eccentricity feels more like 'acting' weird, as suppose to being really weird. Of course, this being only ep. 1, I hope she can grow and really get into her role. Can't help but think that Ueno Juri will be perfect for this role, although she's probably busy filming next year's taiga.
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thanks for the subs, that's super fast too!
About the drama, I'm quite enjoying it so far, I just can't get used to the Chief's lame jokes and weird facial expressions yet. Sometimes I think it's just totally unnecessary. I like Sebumi's character so far, the only 'sane' person in there, too serious but I like him, he strikes a balance to Toma's eccentricity. I'm gonna continue this till the end. I love investigative stories, especially one that involves supernatural or unexplained cases.
About Ueno Juri as Toma, yeah I think she'd be great too, maybe in a different acting style, but since she's busy with Gou, I'm fine with Erika.
About the drama, I'm quite enjoying it so far, I just can't get used to the Chief's lame jokes and weird facial expressions yet. Sometimes I think it's just totally unnecessary. I like Sebumi's character so far, the only 'sane' person in there, too serious but I like him, he strikes a balance to Toma's eccentricity. I'm gonna continue this till the end. I love investigative stories, especially one that involves supernatural or unexplained cases.
About Ueno Juri as Toma, yeah I think she'd be great too, maybe in a different acting style, but since she's busy with Gou, I'm fine with Erika.
Thank you for all your hard work on the subs!
Keizoku is one of my favorite dramas and I just watched it again about a year ago. I think Toda Erika is doing fairly well, but it almost seems as though she's trying to imitate Nakatana MIki's portrayal of Shibata and that makes some of her behaviour and mannerisms seem forced. The Chief seems to be playing an accelerated version of himself from the original--which often seems to be the case in Japanese dramas when they do additional seasons, the characters seem to emphasize their qualities from the first season. I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would, I thought I'd have a hard time with someone new playing Shibata.
Keizoku is one of my favorite dramas and I just watched it again about a year ago. I think Toda Erika is doing fairly well, but it almost seems as though she's trying to imitate Nakatana MIki's portrayal of Shibata and that makes some of her behaviour and mannerisms seem forced. The Chief seems to be playing an accelerated version of himself from the original--which often seems to be the case in Japanese dramas when they do additional seasons, the characters seem to emphasize their qualities from the first season. I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would, I thought I'd have a hard time with someone new playing Shibata.
I've never watched the original version, but the chief is pretty comical. I don't get his lame jokes too, but it's his face that's funny! Esp in ep 1 when he was testing for poison. Toma and Sebumi as the violent + weirdo pair reminds me of nodame, except that Toma isn't a super weirdo like nodame, and Chiaki also loves to hit nodame.
the case in ep1was
the case in ep1was
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Episode 3 was indeed pretty good. What made it better for me was
Quite amazing that there are already so many layers and characters ambitiously woven into the overarching plot. Can't imagine how it'll all come together at the end.
And judging from what has happened so far,
Love all the quirks from the original series as well as new references being used. Will be following this one to the end.
And judging from what has happened so far,
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I don't think you need to have seen the first show to understand the second, but it might give you a little more depth and insight. This website has thorough plot summaries of all the episodes in the first series.
http://www.geocities.ws/keizoku1/Synopsis.html
http://www.geocities.ws/keizoku1/Synopsis.html
@noshadow31
Most of the things being brought over from the original series seem to be limited to only the art direction, running gags and anything that has no plot significance.
Like Nonomura's lame jokes actually came about during a stakeout with Kondo (he's the short guy who dropped by with the murder case file in ep2) in the original series.
Even the series format has changed for the most of it, so there's little to no reference from the original to rely on. The TV Asahi corridor thingy is purely an easter egg.
Edit: Shiina's character
Like Nonomura's lame jokes actually came about during a stakeout with Kondo (he's the short guy who dropped by with the murder case file in ep2) in the original series.
Even the series format has changed for the most of it, so there's little to no reference from the original to rely on. The TV Asahi corridor thingy is purely an easter egg.
Edit: Shiina's character
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Thanks for the clarification, chokubi.
dpedaci, thanks for the summary link!
agree with xxpinkyzxx about Toda Erika still not into her character, I can still see her trying to act weird and making ugly faces. Toda Erika does not suit ugly face role. She's too pretty for that and it hurts me to see her doing weird faces. >_<
agree with xxpinkyzxx about Toda Erika still not into her character, I can still see her trying to act weird and making ugly faces. Toda Erika does not suit ugly face role. She's too pretty for that and it hurts me to see her doing weird faces. >_<
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I am quite interested in Sebumi's paper bag. for environalment protecting purpose?
which kind of thing would be taken out of it by him in every EP? It's the most interesting thing for me.
Sebumi, this character is totally different from Kase's last casting, Sota in Arifureta Kiseki( 2009 ). What an amusing actor he is.
which kind of thing would be taken out of it by him in every EP? It's the most interesting thing for me.
Sebumi, this character is totally different from Kase's last casting, Sota in Arifureta Kiseki( 2009 ). What an amusing actor he is.
This is a good surprise. Fun ride until now (chapter 7). It was a little episodic in the beginning but now everything has being completely taken over by the main story. I like that the Toma character is not thaat random (some past incident can explain in part her eccentric behaviour nowadays).
Its not deep or anything. Its just very good - excelent - entartainment.
Its not deep or anything. Its just very good - excelent - entartainment.
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The director must've lost a bet with him or someone from the group to do this in-drama promotion for them, lol.noshadow31 wrote:cute cameo role, isn't it?
Yup, he was definitely referring to her.clakaz wrote:I think that Nakatani Miki's character from Keizoku I was subtle mentioned in episode 8. Chief Nonomura said that a certain information was provided by a big figure now that was, in the past, his subordinate.
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Yup, ep 10 is the finale! CAN'T WAIT~l0nEr wrote:Omg Omg .. so looking forward to the next episode 10. Is that the last episode?
After seeing the latest episode, I'm really hyped up for the last one. It's gonna be great.
Compared the very first ones, these passed few episodes have been much more full of suspense.
For ep 9
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After watching the final episode, I have to say that this drama is so weird and so brilliant at the same time.
The ending is pretty much open-ended though. There are so many things that are left to be discussed. (or may be... too much?)
Regarding the ep 10,
At the very end, after the credit and the gyoza thing, Toma said that there will be no movie! I'm not sure if she was really joking or not.
However, IMO, the whole story isn't completed yet. I feel like I still need more~ haha This show is such a fun ride
The ending is pretty much open-ended though. There are so many things that are left to be discussed. (or may be... too much?)
Regarding the ep 10,
However, IMO, the whole story isn't completed yet. I feel like I still need more~ haha This show is such a fun ride
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The last episode is disappointing to me that I start to regret watching this series. it's just so confusing and while it's ok not to explain everything happening in the series, too much of inconclusiveness makes viewers think "well wouldn't it be better not watching at all?"
maybe i'm just too slow for this intelligent(?) drama. A part of it is also because my japanese is not good enough. i'm hesitating whether to rewatch it once the eng subs are all out.
anyone who understands the series, please explain
maybe i'm just too slow for this intelligent(?) drama. A part of it is also because my japanese is not good enough. i'm hesitating whether to rewatch it once the eng subs are all out.
anyone who understands the series, please explain
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Wow, so that is what it means. Thank you for pointing that out. I don't think that you are reading too much into it.shinqtaro wrote:BTW (and I may be reading too much into this), the episodes are numbered based on the 10 heavenly/celestial stems, which is an ancient Chinese cyclic character numeral system.
Eata wrote:
I'm really hoping for an SP or movie! It's true the ratings weren't that great but it's a good sign that the finale ratings were the best of all the episodes I think and also imo the ratings for the original Keizoku weren't particularly great either (better than these but dramas in general got better ratings at that time) and it still got a SP and movie. Maybe the DVD sale will be good. It was also available online right? Maybe it got some viewers that way. And I read that in an oricon survey the readers ranked it second after Freeter, that's only a small sample but at least it means people were interested? I'm clinging to hope here
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Keizoku 2:SPEC recaps
I think that the last episode is too open ended but I think they're planning for a special! Certainly hope so anyway...
I'm not sure if English Subs have been taken up, but anyway if you wanna look at recaps you can check out this website called thoughtsramble.livejournal.com This person did a recap on just one episode though
I'm not sure if English Subs have been taken up, but anyway if you wanna look at recaps you can check out this website called thoughtsramble.livejournal.com This person did a recap on just one episode though
This thread had made me want to watch the whole series now. I quit after the first episode because seeing Toda Erika cast alongside one the best actors in all of Japan, Kase Ryo, was just too painful. It's like casting Winona Ryder next to Laurence Olivier, IMO.
Apparently, Kase's character starts coming into his own as the series progresses. He's allowed to be more than just a foil for the "kooky" character Toda attempts to portray. All well and good.
Apparently, Kase's character starts coming into his own as the series progresses. He's allowed to be more than just a foil for the "kooky" character Toda attempts to portray. All well and good.
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Thought it was funny when Satori (Mano Erina) told Reizen to sing Hello Project instead of AKB. I also noticed the doctor who likes melons had a Melon Kinen-Bi (disbanded former Hello Project group) 10th anniversary DVD (or at least a picture that looked like the cover) on his desk.
Whats up with Arimura Kasumi (Miyabi) being typecast as a girl who goes out with old men? She had a similar character in Hagane no Onna also.
Who else wanted to eat tons of gyoza after watching the episodes?
The end didn't really explain anything so there'll be a special or something later?[/spoiler]
Whats up with Arimura Kasumi (Miyabi) being typecast as a girl who goes out with old men? She had a similar character in Hagane no Onna also.
Who else wanted to eat tons of gyoza after watching the episodes?
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sorry for not continuing the subject but i have no idea where else my question would fit.
i was wondering about the main theme of this awesome series. does anyone have a score for it? i want to play it by myself but without a score for me its impossible.
tried to google it, but i am not a japanese speaker, so couldnt look there... help, anyone?
i was wondering about the main theme of this awesome series. does anyone have a score for it? i want to play it by myself but without a score for me its impossible.
tried to google it, but i am not a japanese speaker, so couldnt look there... help, anyone?
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