Try Lying to Me - SBS 2011
The fact of extending is not sure, I wrote to SBS agents (on the board), but I DO know how SBS handles those things. The answer about Bad Guy last year came to me after 2 months. Yeah, SBS...
I read it on one korean blog, this is why I'm not sure on Daum there are still 16 episodes.
I know fangirls can't be trusted, but on Daum, most of the comments can be shortened to 진짜 재미있어요 (really interesting).
Lot of people loved My Shining Inheritance. I hated it and couldn't watch more than 2 eps. Lots of people hate Goong. I love it. So what? Matter of taste, I guess.
Some pics
Oh, and I would like to see Manager Park taking some action. She doesn't seem to be very fond of Yunju, so let her kick the b*tch's ass!!
I read it on one korean blog, this is why I'm not sure on Daum there are still 16 episodes.
I know fangirls can't be trusted, but on Daum, most of the comments can be shortened to 진짜 재미있어요 (really interesting).
Lot of people loved My Shining Inheritance. I hated it and couldn't watch more than 2 eps. Lots of people hate Goong. I love it. So what? Matter of taste, I guess.
Some pics
Oh, and I would like to see Manager Park taking some action. She doesn't seem to be very fond of Yunju, so let her kick the b*tch's ass!!
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That one got me as well. This series has realistic characters and uses the plot devices and cliches to turn things around and make them fresh. So, if anything, this is very original by Dramaland standards.Tyrea wrote:People keep bashing it, saying how it's so incredibly cliche, yet, the way I see it, it uses all sorts of cliches, and just when we start thinking that it's going to be the same kdramaland stuff,
it turns the cliche (major ones) upside down and transforms it into something fresh, down to earth and something most people can understand or relate to. Which is why I have faith that the sh situation won't be handled in the typical way either.
I really don't see, from a storytelling point of view, how they can find this cliche and boring. Because they keep forcing the leads together? NOW you notice that? You didn't see it in EVERY other kdrama?
I'm not against criticism or even bashing, but if you're going to do that about a work, do it with your own thoughts and without overriding your own sayings and behavior. Not cause everyone does/says the same.
It feels kind of funny that these people don't mind the forced plot devices in shows like TGL which are basically a repetition of every kdrama out there with a different cast and basic plot and mind them ONLY here.
That's exactly it. If you're going to bash something you haven't even seen, at least say that "This LOOKS like it sucks and I THINK that it might suck". Don't act like a series you don't even watch offended your delicate taste.Tyrea wrote:Also, it's amazing how many people who aren't watching it at all (goes for many other things as well, other shows, books, movies, games etc) seem so eager to bash it.
I mean are they really THAT bored, and have no other more interesting things to do in their lives? It's not that I'm against expressing one's opinion, but gee...move on.
What I mean is, someone can like a show or not like a show. I have no problem with people not liking it, but I do have an issue with this whole "must agree with the majority" thing and not having your own brain on things.
I also have an issue with people not distinguishing between actual scenario/character/plot problems and them not liking some scenario/character/plot elements. Even if you don't like it, a plot/character might be good.
This series is well written. Character development is realistic, complex and well done. The characters are actually more than a bunch of kdrama cliches and the actors are doing a kick-ass job conveying those characters.
Now, if you find that boring and don't like it, do say it. It's your right. But don't mask "I don't like this plot" with "This plot is so badly written" just to cover your own feelings as if it's something you should be ashamed of. Say it.
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Jana, hon, your live recap is kinda scary.
But you basically describe the raw feelings of the average viewer. Although, I don't find anything Ki Joon does cute anymore, while he's still being an idiot.
If anything, when he does all of these cute "let me make the viewers like me again" things, I just want to take him to the mountains and feed him to bobcats.
I kept remembering the incident in Coffee House with the wild cat so bobcats was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of how to hurt this dude.
But you basically describe the raw feelings of the average viewer. Although, I don't find anything Ki Joon does cute anymore, while he's still being an idiot.
If anything, when he does all of these cute "let me make the viewers like me again" things, I just want to take him to the mountains and feed him to bobcats.
I kept remembering the incident in Coffee House with the wild cat so bobcats was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of how to hurt this dude.
I just re-read it. It is kind of scary isn't it? Like it makes no sense, unless you're actually watching the episode and reading my recap. Sorrrry for the confusion.Orion1986 wrote:Jana, hon, your live recap is kinda scary.
But I totally had fun typing this out. It was a place to express what I was feeling. And I had no other place to post it but here.
Ki Joon is being an idiot, seriously. But I don't know... It's like I can understand the guy. I don't know, I guess I just know a lot of guys like that. It just seems realistic, how he would react.Orion1986 wrote:But you basically describe the raw feelings of the average viewer. Although, I don't find anything Ki Joon does cute anymore, while he's still being an idiot.
If anything, when he does all of these cute "let me make the viewers like me again" things, I just want to take him to the mountains and feed him to bobcats.
I kept remembering the incident in Coffee House with the wild cat so bobcats was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of how to hurt this dude.
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after watching ep 10 it makes you just anticipate what would happen to ah jung and gi joon on ep 11. i dont understand why gi joon denied the fake marriage with ah jung in front of all those big people in ah jungs life. yun ju disgusts me(but this is a very typical korean portrayal of the villain girl in a romantic series, this pattern just repeats from stairway to heaven, lol). i really liked yoon hye's acting prowess its just excellent. honestly compared to local dramas here in PI i would still prefer koreans(just my 2 cents...)
Well, I do understand Hyeon Gijun as well. He's been in love, true, they had a bad break up and finally he started to love again. But still, the feelings linger, and this is why he's so passive sometimes in his actions.
Yunju, on the other hand, I don't know. She's clingy, that's a fact, but maybe, slight maaaaybe she started to grow some conscience? I have no idea what she was thinking - that nothing can change within 3 years? Only in Glen Medeiros' song, girl! She said that about Seoul few eps back - that it didn't change at all, and Gijun had this strange face saying that everything's changed. Yunju acts as if she owned him, his feelings and even his right to change. She came back after 3 years, hoping time stood still and didn't move a centimeter. This is self-centredness. "Yeah, I'm the same, so EVERYONE is the same, cause I can serve as a paradygm for it!". What a stupid way of thinking is that? This is a denial.
Manager Park is pure awesomeness. That's all.
And they left the Aunt asking about Ajeong like that? Wondering why they didn't let them talk right away.
And to answer Sanghi's question:
Yunju, on the other hand, I don't know. She's clingy, that's a fact, but maybe, slight maaaaybe she started to grow some conscience? I have no idea what she was thinking - that nothing can change within 3 years? Only in Glen Medeiros' song, girl! She said that about Seoul few eps back - that it didn't change at all, and Gijun had this strange face saying that everything's changed. Yunju acts as if she owned him, his feelings and even his right to change. She came back after 3 years, hoping time stood still and didn't move a centimeter. This is self-centredness. "Yeah, I'm the same, so EVERYONE is the same, cause I can serve as a paradygm for it!". What a stupid way of thinking is that? This is a denial.
Manager Park is pure awesomeness. That's all.
And they left the Aunt asking about Ajeong like that? Wondering why they didn't let them talk right away.
And to answer Sanghi's question:
Lie To Me OST Part 4
Enjoy^^
But you know, this drama is not even half as bad as the train-wreck Marry Me Mary, so I don't understand the fangirls complaints. Oh yes, Jihwan doesn't flaunt his S-line every second shot, maybe this is the reason, yess... To praise MMM and criticize LTM is just... (put any adjective/noun/idiom/whatever).
Enjoy^^
But you know, this drama is not even half as bad as the train-wreck Marry Me Mary, so I don't understand the fangirls complaints. Oh yes, Jihwan doesn't flaunt his S-line every second shot, maybe this is the reason, yess... To praise MMM and criticize LTM is just... (put any adjective/noun/idiom/whatever).
Haven't commented in d-addicts for a while, but YES I am watching Lie To Me and enjoying it. I've seen so many dramas like it, cliche whatever you call it. But to me, the characters' chemistry keeps me glued to the drama.
It's a mix of Full House (Contract Marriage), My Girl (Lie) and Lovers In Paris (Brothers fighting for the same girl). I love Yoon Eun Hye's spunky character. She may act unreasonable in some situations but understand her character, her actions make sense. Yoon Eun Hye has improved her crying scenes even more than Coffee Prince.
I'm also watching the other trendies besides this one and enjoying all of them on their own. Lie to Me is not supposed to be that deep but a sweet romcom that's familiar and works. The leads especially YEH and Kang Ji Hwan has amazing chemistry. Dang that's the most real kissing scenes I've seen in a Kdrama happening early on.
I'm also a follower of Dramabeans. Though, that doesn't mean I agree with everything she says. She dropped Lie To Me to watch Miss Ripley and while Lee Da Hae is one of my favorites since My Girl, Miss Ripley is toooooo heavy to watch and got bored with the first episode. Why? Because who would want to keep watching a person suffer and suffer like there's no tomorrow. Ahhh someone give LDH a romcom drama or something lighter.
@janajee:
Haha I hate Yoon Ju too. I really don't understand those types of girls especially in Kdramas who keep clinging to the "don't care about you anymore" boyfriend. I mean he gave you the "message", he's up front about it. BELIEVE IT, and have some dignity. What's the point of telling other ppl that she and Ki Joon are going to get married soon when he literally said I don't like you. I mean everyone's going to find out that he dumped you when you're in church alone and others wondering it's a lie. Yup have some dignity and straighten out your head. 2nd female lead always leaves and expects to be OK with their bf after 3 years. Arrogant much. Did she even contact him in those 3 years.
Offtopic a bit:
Or if she wanted to watch melodrama, then watch Can You Hear My Heart. While it's a tearjerker, the angsty scenes actually makes sense and not ingrated into the viewers head that the lead has a tough life because she just does. Most of my favorite tearjerkers are those with a slice of life twist where you feel for the character, not because all bad situations provoke the character to keep being sad. Life is not always full of angst and crying, there's always a happy scenario to balance it. Unless you're a human who feels joy getting in tough situations then that would be because of their stupid decisions in life who I only pity but not sympathize with.
It's a mix of Full House (Contract Marriage), My Girl (Lie) and Lovers In Paris (Brothers fighting for the same girl). I love Yoon Eun Hye's spunky character. She may act unreasonable in some situations but understand her character, her actions make sense. Yoon Eun Hye has improved her crying scenes even more than Coffee Prince.
I'm also watching the other trendies besides this one and enjoying all of them on their own. Lie to Me is not supposed to be that deep but a sweet romcom that's familiar and works. The leads especially YEH and Kang Ji Hwan has amazing chemistry. Dang that's the most real kissing scenes I've seen in a Kdrama happening early on.
I'm also a follower of Dramabeans. Though, that doesn't mean I agree with everything she says. She dropped Lie To Me to watch Miss Ripley and while Lee Da Hae is one of my favorites since My Girl, Miss Ripley is toooooo heavy to watch and got bored with the first episode. Why? Because who would want to keep watching a person suffer and suffer like there's no tomorrow. Ahhh someone give LDH a romcom drama or something lighter.
@janajee:
Haha I hate Yoon Ju too. I really don't understand those types of girls especially in Kdramas who keep clinging to the "don't care about you anymore" boyfriend. I mean he gave you the "message", he's up front about it. BELIEVE IT, and have some dignity. What's the point of telling other ppl that she and Ki Joon are going to get married soon when he literally said I don't like you. I mean everyone's going to find out that he dumped you when you're in church alone and others wondering it's a lie. Yup have some dignity and straighten out your head. 2nd female lead always leaves and expects to be OK with their bf after 3 years. Arrogant much. Did she even contact him in those 3 years.
Offtopic a bit:
Or if she wanted to watch melodrama, then watch Can You Hear My Heart. While it's a tearjerker, the angsty scenes actually makes sense and not ingrated into the viewers head that the lead has a tough life because she just does. Most of my favorite tearjerkers are those with a slice of life twist where you feel for the character, not because all bad situations provoke the character to keep being sad. Life is not always full of angst and crying, there's always a happy scenario to balance it. Unless you're a human who feels joy getting in tough situations then that would be because of their stupid decisions in life who I only pity but not sympathize with.
Exactly that!! 100%. And if a girl still goes for the teddy she must be a delusional girly that'll act like Soran or whatever her name is ;) This drama for a change I'm not rooting for the 2nd lead at all. He acts just like a spoilt little kid and what's with the "I'm the fairy godmother helping you" I mean has he never watched any drama? Shouldn't men by now know that the always gentle helper will lose out in the end cause they're boring and stale like decaf coffee? Ahem...just had to say that. Sanghi's really been annoying for me lately ;)Ethlenn wrote: And to answer Sanghi's question:
Not so KJ. True he could explain himself to Ahjung better but apart from that, imo he acted pretty natural. As others said, if the love of your life comes back after a long time while you've just found yourself falling for that other girl who is tbh pretty out of his usual target range, who wouldn't hesitate and waver? The reason why I really like his character is cause he does play with open cards. He told his Ex that he's in love and also that they're over. Waiting for her to accept the situation is a wrong move and will only make it hard for everybody involved. But then, after a long time relationship ofc you would want to do anything to make it easier for the one you're throwing away ;)
And I also think KJ is about to realize that he can't just be mr nice to everybody if he doesn't want to see ahjung getting hurt only.
Also excited to see how the aunt will deal with Ahjung, she's not in KJ's league at all so I guess we'll see some typical kdrama family resistance ;)
And about the manager, I somehow think she's a bit too awkward. Doesn't she have the hots for KJ, too. But she acts like only friends and keeps in the back. She is awsome for speaking her mind to him like that, but then why act so reserved all the time?? I just can't get to like her. ^^
Can't wait to see ep 11...hopefully they'll get rid of Soran and the annyoing sunbae and focus on the main quartet.
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ethlenn do you know any forums or sites that subs midnight tv entertainment. i would be thankful if you can give me a hint. thank you.Ethlenn wrote:Interview with Kang Jihwan from yesterday's Midnight TV Entertainment:
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Not that I'm aware of any. Probably not. Too bad, this one and Section TV doesn't get subs at all.
And I have to agree with Ara (again), I had problems warming up to Sanghi and I thought it was only my problem. I couldn't care less about his issues, really. At first he was just hanging out with Ahjung hoping for, I don't know, something? Even though she treated him like a dongsaeng and nothing more (well, at her best, to be fair)? Second leads should lose all that I'm-your-protector-from-the-evil-alpha-male attitude and act not like a godmother, but as a rival, if they want to be taken seriously. Like in Que Sera Sera, ie. There wasn't just a typical male that wanted to protect the lady, it was a deeper thing.
This is why Gijun is more natural - at firs hormones kicked in, and he felt physically attracted to her, but then he developped a real feelings. Relationship is not building a glass cover around the people you love, but go through whatever life brings,with that person, not hiding.
And I have to agree with Ara (again), I had problems warming up to Sanghi and I thought it was only my problem. I couldn't care less about his issues, really. At first he was just hanging out with Ahjung hoping for, I don't know, something? Even though she treated him like a dongsaeng and nothing more (well, at her best, to be fair)? Second leads should lose all that I'm-your-protector-from-the-evil-alpha-male attitude and act not like a godmother, but as a rival, if they want to be taken seriously. Like in Que Sera Sera, ie. There wasn't just a typical male that wanted to protect the lady, it was a deeper thing.
This is why Gijun is more natural - at firs hormones kicked in, and he felt physically attracted to her, but then he developped a real feelings. Relationship is not building a glass cover around the people you love, but go through whatever life brings,with that person, not hiding.
Nice episode, but I find Ae Jung way too forgiving. He didn't do anything substantial, although I have to wait for subs.
So Ran was hilarious. I'm really liking her less over-the-top, but still b*tchy attitude. She's a comic relief but a nice one.
And also, I need subs for the english parts as well. My God, Ji Hwan. I'd have an easier time understanding Klingon than your "english".
If an actor is not good with a language, be smart about it and don't force them to use it. Saves them and our poor ears a lot of stress.
So Ran was hilarious. I'm really liking her less over-the-top, but still b*tchy attitude. She's a comic relief but a nice one.
And also, I need subs for the english parts as well. My God, Ji Hwan. I'd have an easier time understanding Klingon than your "english".
If an actor is not good with a language, be smart about it and don't force them to use it. Saves them and our poor ears a lot of stress.
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Orion1986 wrote:And also, I need subs for the english parts as well. My God, Ji Hwan. I'd have an easier time understanding Klingon than your "english".
If an actor is not good with a language, be smart about it and don't force them to use it. Saves them and our poor ears a lot of stress.
i truly agree with you in this one @Orion1986....ji hwan's english is very bad they should not have let him use english. he was fluent in japanese and chinese but it he was bad with english. lol.
And if you have to use it (since, apparently, Korean clients aren't as fancy as Americans and Japanese), at least find one person that knows it well and have them take the actor through it.
He can learn the few lines phonetically. Meaning, copying the sound. These are talented people. They can learn some sounds by heart if you train them. Heck, he even did ok with Russian.
But I guess it's too expensive to bring in 1 friggin' Korean-American to spend a grand total of half an hour and teach 1 actor a few lines. Dramas are way too cheap with such things.
He can learn the few lines phonetically. Meaning, copying the sound. These are talented people. They can learn some sounds by heart if you train them. Heck, he even did ok with Russian.
But I guess it's too expensive to bring in 1 friggin' Korean-American to spend a grand total of half an hour and teach 1 actor a few lines. Dramas are way too cheap with such things.
@Archie; thanks. I hope it was fun and understandable enough. Next time, I'll actually say what's happening, instead of just the raw emotions, because you know... that time I just wrote what was on my mind.
@Ate Ori, HE CAN PICK ME! I'll teach him for free. I'll do anything for free if it's him. Kekekekekkekeke I'll even pay him to let me teach him.
@Ate Ori, HE CAN PICK ME! I'll teach him for free. I'll do anything for free if it's him. Kekekekekkekeke I'll even pay him to let me teach him.
it's because it doesn't cater to their fantasies. no coldhearted but sweet deep inside guy to have a crush on (or angelic goodie two shoes bleeding for the heroine), just a normal man with flaws. no life-changing one true love to conquer everything, lasting forever, but regular attraction leading to something more. and of course no excitement/hilarity/heartbreak all the time. remove that and you get "glaring flaws".Orion1986 wrote: That one got me as well. This series has realistic characters and uses the plot devices and cliches to turn things around and make them fresh. So, if anything, this is very original by Dramaland standards.
I really don't see, from a storytelling point of view, how they can find this cliche and boring. Because they keep forcing the leads together? NOW you notice that? You didn't see it in EVERY other kdrama?
I'm not against criticism or even bashing, but if you're going to do that about a work, do it with your own thoughts and without overriding your own sayings and behavior. Not cause everyone does/says the same.
It feels kind of funny that these people don't mind the forced plot devices in shows like TGL which are basically a repetition of every kdrama out there with a different cast and basic plot and mind them ONLY here.
a clever use of cliches is to use them but never make you feel bored or annoyed, but it's also clever to use them and transform them into something different. even more so. it's not that i think that this is a super smart or witty show, but the characters actually feel like people you might know, they resolve and dwell on their issues in ways that normal people do, and not with constant epic unrealistic stupidity/angst.
lol @delicate taste. well it makes them feel and appear...smart? actually what annoys me the most (but i may be imagining things, haven't been able to sleep properly for more than 2 weeks) is the condescending vibe i've been getting from many of such comments. like, this show is so badly written, the story is going nowhere (I lol each time at this one since they've been repeating it like a broken record since hmm ep 3?), and i'm so smart to get it, unlike all of you fangirls who can't see past the make-out session. seriously, ego trippin' over a rom com soap? intellectually??? some of them apparently also enjoy provoking fangirls with such comments. now that's a really smart thing to do. oh well, i gave up on reading them...Orion1986 wrote: That's exactly it. If you're going to bash something you haven't even seen, at least say that "This LOOKS like it sucks and I THINK that it might suck". Don't act like a series you don't even watch offended your delicate taste.
What I mean is, someone can like a show or not like a show. I have no problem with people not liking it, but I do have an issue with this whole "must agree with the majority" thing and not having your own brain on things.
I also have an issue with people not distinguishing between actual scenario/character/plot problems and them not liking some scenario/character/plot elements. Even if you don't like it, a plot/character might be good.
This series is well written. Character development is realistic, complex and well done. The characters are actually more than a bunch of kdrama cliches and the actors are doing a kick-ass job conveying those characters.
Now, if you find that boring and don't like it, do say it. It's your right. But don't mask "I don't like this plot" with "This plot is so badly written" just to cover your own feelings as if it's something you should be ashamed of. Say it.
btw i didn't realize that manager park is actually the singer who sang sung in shik. it was a real discovery for me
i haven't seen ep11 yet, but i'm guessing ah jung gave in too easily because after all she has no experience with men and he's the first guy to ever treat her like that. as for english...well i'm guessing that most people there can't tell if it's bad english or not, so it makes no difference for them. and as for SH, eh he's just a spoiled brat who needs to grow up. it happens when you've been pampered all of your life ^^;
edit: uh, so i've just read that they changed the writer starting with ep11??? have yet to see it but don't like it :/
edit2: nvm, i wouldn't be surprised if it was the sort of rumor/hoax like with the writer asking people if they want kj to end up with yj (which was such a stupid rumor).also, seems that both started on soompi and then spread, so 'nuff said.
I don't know if they did, but so far, 11 and 12 were epic. The cute is back and Ki Joon made some long time coming corrections to his mess. We laughed non-stop for almost all of episode 12.
And the actors are what make it amazing, not the script by itself, in these two episodes. They are really giving it their all. I'm loving this series so much, honestly. And some say it's worse than MMM.
And the actors are what make it amazing, not the script by itself, in these two episodes. They are really giving it their all. I'm loving this series so much, honestly. And some say it's worse than MMM.
lol i love the implied facepalm, i'm so stealing it
i've just finished watching ep11.
btw i love the actor who's playing jae bum, ryu seung su, he's so good imo. i've loved him ever since i saw evasive inquiry agency, and at first i sort of felt sorry that he got such an ungrateful role/character, but he's actually perfect for it
i've just finished watching ep11.
Seen the ep 11 and 12 now. I don't know about others but damn how well Ji Hwan acted being in love with Ah Jung. All his expressions... woah, just woah. It was so natural.
I also love how this isn't going overdramatic: (not yet at least)
Only thing I didn't like at ep 11-12 was "taking it slowly" but I guess they had to slow down, not to run out of ideas before last episode. It's just that I don't want them to take slowly!
I also love how this isn't going overdramatic: (not yet at least)
Ep 11 was overromantic as for me, but nevertheless a nice one.
Yunju is pathetic. When a man says that she's not longer in front of his eyes, he's not saying her to wait, but to give up. Love comes and goes, deal with that.
Sanghi's scene, on the other hand, felt so off from the course of the drama. It was pure cliche - drunken, wanting to be hit guy crying over a picture/drawing/image on the waves...
Sanghi's scene, on the other hand, felt so off from the course of the drama. It was pure cliche - drunken, wanting to be hit guy crying over a picture/drawing/image on the waves...
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I believe you are referring to this song:
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I put Lie To Me OST Part 4 in this very thread, look for yourself.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwsHllZ7JzI
im referring to the first 2 minutes of the series. where they stare at each other at the balcony of the hotel. i already have kim yeon woo's song and its different. lol. i just like the song. thats all. lol. thanks you very much.[/spoiler]
im referring to the first 2 minutes of the series. where they stare at each other at the balcony of the hotel. i already have kim yeon woo's song and its different. lol. i just like the song. thats all. lol. thanks you very much.[/spoiler]
Yup! Honestly, what I love about him the most (in general), is that he has comedy in his veins. He rocks the serious/melo scenes too, but with comedy he is at home and so genuinely funny (something that perhaps doesn't come across much here). I absolutely love the korean sense of humor because unlike western humor it makes me laugh out loud, but more often than not there is some affectation present. This guy just pulls it all without obvious affectation because he's naturally funny. Heck I start smiling by just seeing his face Ji Hwan also has comedy in his veins, though in a different way, and I love him the most when he's being funny. Or mad. When he's mad the only thing missing is fire coming out of his nostrilsOrion1986 wrote:His acting him look so pathetic and weak and I guess his entire "office clerk" look helps. Good choice indeed. He's fun.
As for ep12, it was too romantic/cheesy for me too, but i'm a cynical/bitter old hag. i guess i have to take back that the show doesn't cater to female fantasies. it does now, with everything including the voice. it was really funny though, especially ji hwan's expressions and
edit: just a random comment. i find it both funny and sad how they embraced the western classical music as something so cool and leet, yet disregard their own traditional/classical music to such an extent.
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I'm going on a Lie To Me marathon and gaaaaaaaad... if i don't have to sleep and work i'll be watching this straight up to episode 12. I'm behind since i'm still on episode 7, but i'm dying here. i guess i missed seeing Eun Hye in her crazy acting still and nonetheless paired up with an epic actor. sheez... and why am i falling for that second lead??? i'm not much of a second lead fan but here, it's just killing me more!!!
btw, who among you love the ost? I must hug Ethleen for posting it here in the thread. my ears go prickly when specific scenes are shown and the OST is inserted... reminds me of how nice the coffee prince OST was embedded in the whole drama.
I couldn't help but post this here, I wanted to laugh and swoon at the same time while watching this in episode 5: That awkward moment.
btw, who among you love the ost? I must hug Ethleen for posting it here in the thread. my ears go prickly when specific scenes are shown and the OST is inserted... reminds me of how nice the coffee prince OST was embedded in the whole drama.
I couldn't help but post this here, I wanted to laugh and swoon at the same time while watching this in episode 5: That awkward moment.
Two major stars can not always carry the show. I believe you have to have good supporting characters. Coffee Prince, Coffee House, Secret Garden, Prosecutor Princess and Harvest Villa had much more to offer in supporting cast. I still watch the drama, just that I am enjoying City Hunter and Romance Town better.
LOL that bored me from the start but as I kept watching, I fell hard for Cha ahjusshi's slapsticky character and even the Pasta woman I used to dislike is growing on me. Still think that show's side characters are bad alltogether but at least the script and the jokes seem fresh and make me eager to finally catch up with it again.Orion1986 wrote:Same thing happened to me with The Greatest Love. It's a matter of tastes, I guess.
With Lie to me it's just that the recycle every other clichee which I still liked in the beginning cause they did use some un-dramalike turns and some lovely/hawt kissing scenes but ever since that coke kiss. the drama's become senseless for me. it's just the long and winding road through all the obstacles in their way until they can finally be happy ever after -bleh. Did they change the writer in this drama, too? I miss the freshness of the first eps.
The only drama I really enjoy at the moment is City Hunter. By now I'm even glad they didn't take much more than the name from the manga ;)
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i sense episode 14 would be some kind of mix comedy and tragic scenes. i just hope they do more comedy than the tragic part. lol. anyway do we have updates on part 5 of the Lie to me OST??? i love the pouring rain song but i still cant find it. its not kim yeon woo's youre my love song its a more lively song. hehehe. i hope someone uploads some new OST's for this series. take care.
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thank you but i already found the file thanks to youtube. well for anyone who wants to download it here's the youtube link with download link from 4shared.com for mediafire... http://www.mediafire.com/?crxw5q9z226r3am
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I'm still enjoying this, myself. Well, my mom too. Lol. Two actors I like, some nice characters. Very well written. The characters are good, just not the plot.
But I'm still enjoying it. Same with Babyfaced Beauty. Light, and I pass the time. Which is why I dropped TGL for now. It stopped being as it started off.
Matter of taste, expectations, tolerance for the negative, if the good are to one's liking etc.
But I'm still enjoying it. Same with Babyfaced Beauty. Light, and I pass the time. Which is why I dropped TGL for now. It stopped being as it started off.
Matter of taste, expectations, tolerance for the negative, if the good are to one's liking etc.
Eh i have to agree with ethlenn :/ To be honest, I liked the 1st writer and her realistic vibe more. The moment the second writer stepped in, the drama started pleasing wide audiences more, and the characters who up to that point were more than the typical 2d rom com characters somehow ended up being...simple. It's not that I'm not enjoying it cause I am, kjh and yeh are doing a fabulous job (i've even become a yeh fan) and their interactions are nothing short of amazing, but I would have really, really loved seeing the 1st writer work (i wish there was a book). One can ocassionally see the sparks of the 1st writer's vision of characters, but the 2nd one went too fast with the leads, and neglected all the others.I think the 1st writer's intention was to offer a more mature show than the typical rom com, and the 2nd writer ruined that intention. She also seems bipolar to me. I really love her odd episodes (I was smiling or laughing all the time with ep 11 and 13), and find even episodes too much in some aspects. With the last one, she tried to give us too much cuteness while dealing with serious stuff, and then she dealt with the serious stuff (and everything else) poorly, as if she was just trying to get rid of it asap (or to be more exact, like she didn't care). I ended up feeling like it was crammed when in reality it wasn't, I guess it seemed....random? I'm hoping she'll make up for this ep in the last two. Or at least one.
The acting in the last ep was the direct opposite, top-notch. Which is why this time I really felt sorry for jh and yeh :/ Their acting saved this episode from being as horrible as it would have been with lesser actors. Oh and I loved the drunk Gi Jun, it was so hilarious and well played.
The acting in the last ep was the direct opposite, top-notch. Which is why this time I really felt sorry for jh and yeh :/ Their acting saved this episode from being as horrible as it would have been with lesser actors. Oh and I loved the drunk Gi Jun, it was so hilarious and well played.
V.A Lie To Me OST
And I guess this is my last post, I really feel no need to watch the remaining episodes, wven though there are only 2 of them. Secret Garden syndrome, yesh, yesh...
And I guess this is my last post, I really feel no need to watch the remaining episodes, wven though there are only 2 of them. Secret Garden syndrome, yesh, yesh...
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Well this fizzled out...the second writer sucked.
I know the first six eps were semi slow...but up to ep 10, I felt like they were building on something that was going to become really good at the end...
...then the producers didn't ride it out and give it a chance and pulled the switch right before the epicness happened. The new writer changed the flow and took it in a different direction and it just never clicked.
Sucks because Yoon Eun-hye is awesome.
I know the first six eps were semi slow...but up to ep 10, I felt like they were building on something that was going to become really good at the end...
...then the producers didn't ride it out and give it a chance and pulled the switch right before the epicness happened. The new writer changed the flow and took it in a different direction and it just never clicked.
Sucks because Yoon Eun-hye is awesome.
I have to agree on that. The problem with this series and the first writer was that it was realistic. The characters felt real and as a result, the story was "boring".
People are so used to kdrama being cliche and characters being so fake that they just can't handle having to think or relate what goes on with real life. So, it's boring.
The second writer attempted to throw in cuteness and angst, but threw too much of it and too erratically, squeezing way too many things in the few episodes she had.
So, the characters lost that realistic touch and started acting more psycho. Thankfully, the actors are amazing enough to have salvaged the situation with their great work.
I am not saying this was an awesome series, but it was well-written. You could tell the original story was solid and if not for botch job filming and changing writers, it would have been lovely.
I also think people expected too much because of the cast. But a crew that hasn't done anything amazing and a first time writer were completely overlooked. Of course it wouldn't be top shelf.
I personally enjoyed it, I got some nice performances, some likable characters, a little freshness in kdrama cliche land. I was not disappointed at all by it cause I got what I wanted from it.
And I highly disagree with comparisons to MMM. MMM was badly written. The story had nothing in it to understand. LTM was WELL written, but fangirl brains don't like to overwork themselves.
People are so used to kdrama being cliche and characters being so fake that they just can't handle having to think or relate what goes on with real life. So, it's boring.
The second writer attempted to throw in cuteness and angst, but threw too much of it and too erratically, squeezing way too many things in the few episodes she had.
So, the characters lost that realistic touch and started acting more psycho. Thankfully, the actors are amazing enough to have salvaged the situation with their great work.
I am not saying this was an awesome series, but it was well-written. You could tell the original story was solid and if not for botch job filming and changing writers, it would have been lovely.
I also think people expected too much because of the cast. But a crew that hasn't done anything amazing and a first time writer were completely overlooked. Of course it wouldn't be top shelf.
I personally enjoyed it, I got some nice performances, some likable characters, a little freshness in kdrama cliche land. I was not disappointed at all by it cause I got what I wanted from it.
And I highly disagree with comparisons to MMM. MMM was badly written. The story had nothing in it to understand. LTM was WELL written, but fangirl brains don't like to overwork themselves.
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Well... he did show some parts of his anatomy which I accidentally happened to see. Purely accidental and all. Plus, the way he just lay on the bed on his belly in the last episode made up for that.
I just kept yelling "Grab it! Grab it! Grab it!". Can't you see what is on the bed in front of you, woman? Graaaaab hiiiim!". I also yelled "Or get on top of him! He has no S-line waist you might break!"
I just kept yelling "Grab it! Grab it! Grab it!". Can't you see what is on the bed in front of you, woman? Graaaaab hiiiim!". I also yelled "Or get on top of him! He has no S-line waist you might break!"
Hm everybody's reviews sound like I really don't neet to try finish this one.
Dropped it after 12 - as some of you said, it's a shame they didn't make more out of this drama. They had a nice start, good actors and I was expecting to see a drama a little out of the ordinary but 2nd writer only tried to make it as ordinary as possible...too bad.
LOL this is the 2nd jihwan-drama in a row which I dropped halfway through...hopefully he'll be onscreen with something new soon-something which has a better production team
Dropped it after 12 - as some of you said, it's a shame they didn't make more out of this drama. They had a nice start, good actors and I was expecting to see a drama a little out of the ordinary but 2nd writer only tried to make it as ordinary as possible...too bad.
LOL this is the 2nd jihwan-drama in a row which I dropped halfway through...hopefully he'll be onscreen with something new soon-something which has a better production team
I too have to agree with you. After the writer changed I totally lost my interest and it took me a week to finish last week's episodes while with the first writer I watched the episodes without subs as soon as they were uploaded. Also, I think the new writer changed the characters too much. Ah Jung became hard to get, suddenly not wanting to marry. Ki Joon became boring, over-romantic and draggy guy. If it was me, I would have lost my interest on him. After the writer changed the series lost its realistic vibe and so its magic.
@Lludara, I was wondering the same. I think the second writer had different story on his/her mind than the first writer...
About what I last time said about "taking it slow" I actually ment that it made the story too cheesy (for me at least). I'm not of that age anymore to get giggles from holding hands. They got the feeling back at the sleepover scene but in overall, last episodes were letdown for me.
Did anyone else got Goong vibes from the last episodes? For example Ah Jung wanting to live her own life and retreating to Jeju island. And the necklace box... I felt like I was watching different series and not Lie to Me...
@Lludara, I was wondering the same. I think the second writer had different story on his/her mind than the first writer...
About what I last time said about "taking it slow" I actually ment that it made the story too cheesy (for me at least). I'm not of that age anymore to get giggles from holding hands. They got the feeling back at the sleepover scene but in overall, last episodes were letdown for me.
Did anyone else got Goong vibes from the last episodes? For example Ah Jung wanting to live her own life and retreating to Jeju island. And the necklace box... I felt like I was watching different series and not Lie to Me...
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Hi all, I finished watching this and I agree that the plot was interesting until ep 12 and then it became cheesy and not interesting. I never really felt the chemistry between the two lead actors and the lead actress seemed quite different to how she was in Coffee Prince (her face seemed bigger). I could not understand the role of the brother in this story and in the last chapters he was hardly there...all in all I recommend this for a lighthearted watch but it is nothing special.
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