[Discussion] Hana Yori Dango (Meteor Garden Manga) jdrama
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ahahaah! i just noticed that on the last page, ppl have been discussing how many times they've watched mg and stuff.. HEHEEHE and i realized that no one reached my record muahaha... i'm sorry.. i'm weird.. but when i watched mg.. i've never read hyd.. watched hyd.. or heard of it.. and i completely fell in love with it.. mayb that's why i've been defending mg so much.. >_>;; hehehe as for ME i watched mg 12 times >_>;; hehehee.. the first time i watched it all in 3 days with my cousin.. wuz realli funni.. i wuz at her house.. and we'd pretend to sleep when parents were there and wake up at 3 watch till 6 or something ahhaa *ahem* yes.. wuz weird.. i watched it so fast.. that when i finished.. i wuz dazed... i forgot wut happened and i watched it ALLLL over again.. and OMG i hate mg2.. i hate it so much it's not funny, i hated daomingsi for liking some other girl.. wuz weird.. such extreme feelings. i luved him in mg1 but i wanted to kill him in mg2.. anyways.. watched hyd anime.. 2-3 times.. manga.. 1 and 1/2 times.. (and yes!! i'm still very sad about the ending >_<;;; so mad) (there were some parts that i reread 2-3 times ;) as for jap hyd.. eum... i can't get myself to rewatch it.. for some reason.. it's not something that i'd rewatch.. but i did watch the 4th episode twice!! ._. yes.. anyways...
Tadaima! ^__^ (This comes kind of little late...)
Of course I'm here, and of course I'm downloading it already! I've just come home from a veeery long day. And it's freezing cold, too! All I actually want for now is a warm soup and my bed buuut... Friday = Hanadan Day! I even prepared myself for tonight by skimming through volume 27 of the manga during the bus ride home (which took me at least one hour), plus I'm having a cup of Ramen right here in front of me. Lol, I'm so crazy. First thing to do once I came home was - of course - checking wheather the file has been uploaded already. (I refreshed like 10 times until it actually WAS completely uploaded. Hehe.)
I was thinking of changing my nickname into First member of the official waChi clubbox fanclub or something.
Wow, there are some long posts, too. Not bad. Huh? Slippyepic is a guy? Ah, neways... First things first. Much to respond to. But it will be at least 3 hours until I will get to watch the new episode, so I might as well hang around here.
To be continued.
Of course I'm here, and of course I'm downloading it already! I've just come home from a veeery long day. And it's freezing cold, too! All I actually want for now is a warm soup and my bed buuut... Friday = Hanadan Day! I even prepared myself for tonight by skimming through volume 27 of the manga during the bus ride home (which took me at least one hour), plus I'm having a cup of Ramen right here in front of me. Lol, I'm so crazy. First thing to do once I came home was - of course - checking wheather the file has been uploaded already. (I refreshed like 10 times until it actually WAS completely uploaded. Hehe.)
I was thinking of changing my nickname into First member of the official waChi clubbox fanclub or something.
Wow, there are some long posts, too. Not bad. Huh? Slippyepic is a guy? Ah, neways... First things first. Much to respond to. But it will be at least 3 hours until I will get to watch the new episode, so I might as well hang around here.
To be continued.
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You might want to check your spelling first before you change your nick.. washi? tsk tsk
Maybe because I don't visit this thread often, but you guys are crazy... as in fan of Hanadan. I don't belong here. I'm going to show myself out. But first, let see if there is any glimpse of Shun in this episode also.
Maybe because I don't visit this thread often, but you guys are crazy... as in fan of Hanadan. I don't belong here. I'm going to show myself out. But first, let see if there is any glimpse of Shun in this episode also.
Hope you like my editing. Hey, it's Hanadan night. Of course I'm far from being able to write or think or ANYTHING.
As for Shun... Hmmmm... I like him in Hanadan (although I'm strictly pro Doumyouji in terms of pairing up with Tsukushi) but I like him a lot better in Densha Otoko. Oh I'll have to write another post in his thread as well. Later! For now: Hanadan check. I have like 15 % already. Enough to have a look at it.
As for Shun... Hmmmm... I like him in Hanadan (although I'm strictly pro Doumyouji in terms of pairing up with Tsukushi) but I like him a lot better in Densha Otoko. Oh I'll have to write another post in his thread as well. Later! For now: Hanadan check. I have like 15 % already. Enough to have a look at it.
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i was browsing at jdorama when i look at fujiki naohito(the guy who plays doctor in 1 litre of tears) and on his page says that he plays hanazawa rui in hana yori dango.i was for a moment so shock that i open 1 litre of tears and hyd at the same time. it cannot be the same man!!! then i remember this thread and phewww i was so relieved it wasn't the same guy
jaycee05: You know I didn't hide those two sentences in the spoiler box on purpose, don't you? It's so much fun to tease you guys.
angelic_poring: I know soo well what you mean. Even though I certainly didn't cry when I saw that scene in MG
angelic_poring: I know soo well what you mean. Even though I certainly didn't cry when I saw that scene in MG
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Lol, forgive me to say this, I'm not looking down on you or anything but... This sounds SO cute!angelic_poring wrote:but but.. okay.. i admit my eyes were tearing up a teenie weenie litto bit..
It's not like I'm not waiting to see this and that from the manga but somehow I always end up being disappointed when they take over some scene from the manga since there's just no way to portray Doumyouji and Tsukushi as I always pictured them in my mind when I read the manga. It's nearly impossible, too, to satisfy everyone's expectations in terms of character faithfulness. First because everyone interprets the story and the characters differently. And most of all, no matter how good the acting may be there will never be a 100 % visual resemblance. I admit it, I'm a die-hard Hanadan manga fan and I just cannot bear with any ragged adaption of it. So I'd rather have some sort of altraverse where there are the same characters with the same (or similar) backgrounds but placed in a new story, with new happenings. So I still have the Hanadan feeling without being disappointed of different interpretations of my favourite scenes or anything. It's kind of hard to explain actually. I don't even expect anyone to understand my point. ^^ That aside I'm not really able to write or speak properly at the moment. I noticed that when I reread my previous post. Gee, nothing of it really made any sense. I left out words, stopped in the middle of a sentence, and jumped from one idea to the next. Sorry.it's weird.. u like things that are diff from manga.. and i like things that are like manga
musouka: I'm of your opinion. It's great they had a scene like that, too. It's like those silly fillers that you often find in mangas, where there is a story that's totally out of context but still contains the main characters, often only in a side role or something. (Take Crescent Moon for instance, or that chapter when Tsukushi found Doumyouji's picture in her old text book.) I'm one of the few persons that actually enjoys such fillers as they often let us see the characters and their relation from a totally different angle.
Episode 5 rantings and praise
hello everyone! Is it me or is HYD Drama going at an INSANELY fast pace? I have the feeling that they are going to leave out all the Jumpei and Shigeru good stuff, the trips to that beach in which Makino and Rui kiss and that snow cabin in which Tsukasa and Tsukushi get stuck in. As much as I applaud the good acting of the drama, I do think it's a bit too fast paced, I mean they are cramming like 52 eps in just 9 episodes! I'm a bit peeved by that since it's doing a great diservice to the masterpiece that HYD is originally. Apart from that i have no complaints, the acting is great, they couldn't have picked better actors, I find them all perfect and the setting totally realistic. One thing that stood out in ep 5 to me is the way that Soujiro held that guy against the wall, I thought I was hilarious, he looked like he was posing and didn't know where the hell to put his hands, at least Matsu-kun's punches and kicks can be believable. Sou-chan looked like he was angling in a photo shoot in which he had to "falsely" restrain a guy, I truly expected a flash of a camera then and there. And Sakurako.............................well.....................she's just a misunderstood and psychotic scorned woman. She was a weird villain, I didn't know whether I should laugh or take her seriously. I was only able to catch a few words, maybe when i get the subbed version I'll be able to actually review it correctly.Overall good eppie, Go Matsu-kun, protect your woman!! sore ja!
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Re: Episode 5 rantings and praise
What do you expect from a 9 episodes drama ?Yin3002 wrote:hello everyone! Is it me or is HYD Drama going at an INSANELY fast pace? !
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Re: Episode 5 rantings and praise
that's why manga is the best and for drama, hyd don't do for me .. too fast, mixed scenes and some characters doesn't fit ..Yin3002 wrote:hello everyone! Is it me or is HYD Drama going at an INSANELY fast pace?I have the feeling that they are going to leave out all the Jumpei and Shigeru good stuff, the trips to that beach in which Makino and Rui kiss and that snow cabin in which Tsukasa and Tsukushi get stuck in. As much as I applaud the good acting of the drama, I do think it's a bit too fast paced, I mean they are cramming like 52 eps in just 9 episodes! I'm a bit peeved by that since it's doing a great diservice to the masterpiece that HYD is originally. Apart from that i have no complaints, the acting is great, they couldn't have picked better actors, I find them all perfect and the setting totally realistic. One thing that stood out in ep 5 to me is the way that Soujiro held that guy against the wall, I thought I was hilarious, he looked like he was posing and didn't know where the hell to put his hands, at least Matsu-kun's punches and kicks can be believable. Sou-chan looked like he was angling in a photo shoot in which he had to "falsely" restrain a guy, I truly expected a flash of a camera then and there. And Sakurako.............................well.....................she's just a misunderstood and psychotic scorned woman. She was a weird villain, I didn't know whether I should laugh or take her seriously. I was only able to catch a few words, maybe when i get the subbed version I'll be able to actually review it correctly.Overall good eppie, Go Matsu-kun, protect your woman!! sore ja!
MG rules for me at least.
Yesterday I watched ep05 and I was so sleepy I couldn´t write my opinion about this episode.
I´m having mixed feelings about this episode 05. During all this week, I was expecting for this episode, and for THAT scene (most of) we all know. While watching it, I was like: "Don´t tell me they´re NOT going to put THAT scene!".
I agree with you, yamatsumi. Soujiro is growing on me, not because of his looks, but I feel that Soujiro in drama is just like Soujiro in manga. The fight scene was too forced, too fake and I laughed a lot, and I agree with Kathleen, the actor who plays him needs to improve, but I´m liking him a lot.
And I´m not watching this series because of Shun or Jun or someone else. I don´t find Shun good-looking at all, I didn´t think Jun was handsome until now. What makes me wanna watch Hanadan is the manga. Because I read it, because I love the story, I´m watching this drama.
BTW, in this episode, Jun is amazingly gorgeous!!!! His sad look kills me!!!!
And finally, Tsukushi and Doumyouji really look like them on manga. Always fighting with each other, but loving each other as well.
EDIT:Kathleen, I´m pretty sure they´re going to show
Oh well, I´m not so dissapointed as I was yesterday. I watched this episode again, and now I can say I liked it very much. Specially because
I´m having mixed feelings about this episode 05. During all this week, I was expecting for this episode, and for THAT scene (most of) we all know. While watching it, I was like: "Don´t tell me they´re NOT going to put THAT scene!".
And I´m not watching this series because of Shun or Jun or someone else. I don´t find Shun good-looking at all, I didn´t think Jun was handsome until now. What makes me wanna watch Hanadan is the manga. Because I read it, because I love the story, I´m watching this drama.
BTW, in this episode, Jun is amazingly gorgeous!!!! His sad look kills me!!!!
And finally, Tsukushi and Doumyouji really look like them on manga. Always fighting with each other, but loving each other as well.
EDIT:Kathleen, I´m pretty sure they´re going to show
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i only read parts of the manga that were missing in the anime. so i'm going to compare episode 4 with the anime one. actually, i like the drama better. it didn't show that makino was using domyouji to gain friends at school. in the anime, i was disappointed with her.. probably because i started liking domyouji at that time.
omg... leaving out junpei and shigeru? i love shigeru.. i really wanted to see her here. i keep on wondering who they'd have to play that role. no matter how much i love this drama, i'm gonna be very disappointed if they skip out on the most memorable parts: the beach, "no matter where you go, be it hell, i'll come and get you", shigeru, domyouji's birthday.. i really don't mind if they skip out on the other parts.. waaay later after shigeru.
four more episodes? i just have to accept the fact now that i won't be seeing those parts. it's sad really. i am just hoping i won't be too disappointed.
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oh my god! i just watched the ep 5 raw.. didn't understand what they were saying.. but i'm not the least bit disappointed!
omg... leaving out junpei and shigeru? i love shigeru.. i really wanted to see her here. i keep on wondering who they'd have to play that role. no matter how much i love this drama, i'm gonna be very disappointed if they skip out on the most memorable parts: the beach, "no matter where you go, be it hell, i'll come and get you", shigeru, domyouji's birthday.. i really don't mind if they skip out on the other parts.. waaay later after shigeru.
four more episodes? i just have to accept the fact now that i won't be seeing those parts. it's sad really. i am just hoping i won't be too disappointed.
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oh my god! i just watched the ep 5 raw.. didn't understand what they were saying.. but i'm not the least bit disappointed!
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OK. I still don't know what to say.
I have a hole in my heart.. and mix feelings about this 5 episode.
The only thing that i have sure is that I really really need subtittles!!!
... I can't tell what i thought because i need to understand!!!
I know .. I'm a hardcore Hyd manga fan...
They mixed so much things that i was confused... i didn't know what feeling the characters had.. So i stopped.
First
I was sad..
But i stopped and left to eat something.. and i was rounding the table in circles... rounding.. rounding..
and i said to my self.. I will watch again and tried to figure out the feelings only concentrate on HYD Drama ...
and now.. i can say that make sense..
I'm still nervous... and i need subtitles like i said before...
but something i like so much..
But
well.. but i still would like to know what they are saying... mostly in
I have a hole in my heart.. and mix feelings about this 5 episode.
The only thing that i have sure is that I really really need subtittles!!!
... I can't tell what i thought because i need to understand!!!
I know .. I'm a hardcore Hyd manga fan...
They mixed so much things that i was confused... i didn't know what feeling the characters had.. So i stopped.
First
I was sad..
and i said to my self.. I will watch again and tried to figure out the feelings only concentrate on HYD Drama ...
and now.. i can say that make sense..
I'm still nervous... and i need subtitles like i said before...
but something i like so much..
makino_sanbr, I tried to talk to you on MSN, but you were watching HYD...makino_sanbr wrote:I know .. I'm a hardcore Hyd manga fan...
They mixed so much things that i was confused... i didn't know what feeling the characters had.. So i stopped.
First
I was sad..
I just fell the same way as you. I don´t know yet what I´m feeling about this episode. A bit dissapointed, a bit surprised, a bit sad, a bit happy... Sure we´re still gonna talk about it at MSN, but I have to tell you: I guess I´m more dissapointed than happy with this episode.
Well, my Japanese isn´t 100% perfect, but I understood almost everything they said on these scenes you´ve mentioned. So, I´ll try to translate them to you (I´ll write it in Portuguese, so I think you can understand it better):well.. but i still would like to know what they are saying... mostly in
Could you put that in english, please? ^^;;shiruchan wrote:Well, my Japanese isn´t 100% perfect, but I understood almost everything they said on these scenes you´ve mentioned. So, I´ll try to translate them to you (I´ll write it in Portuguese, so I think you can understand it better):I hope it helps you to understand what happened better. You know, I´m always here, so you can aks anything!
I´ll try to put those scenes in English, but my English isn´t good, so surely, it´s going to have a lot of mistakes on my translation, but anyway, I´ll try. Better check the subtitles then.renko wrote:Could you put that in english, please? ^^;;shiruchan wrote:Well, my Japanese isn´t 100% perfect, but I understood almost everything they said on these scenes you´ve mentioned. So, I´ll try to translate them to you (I´ll write it in Portuguese, so I think you can understand it better):I hope it helps you to understand what happened better. You know, I´m always here, so you can aks anything!
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Yay! Thank you very much! I think you did a very good job for someone who is still learning both Japanese and English. Also, I think 'heart' would have been a better choice than 'chest'.shiruchan wrote:I´ll try to put those scenes in English, but my English isn´t good, so surely, it´s going to have a lot of mistakes on my translation, but anyway, I´ll try. Better check the subtitles then.renko wrote:Could you put that in english, please? ^^;;shiruchan wrote:Well, my Japanese isn´t 100% perfect, but I understood almost everything they said on these scenes you´ve mentioned. So, I´ll try to translate them to you (I´ll write it in Portuguese, so I think you can understand it better):I hope it helps you to understand what happened better. You know, I´m always here, so you can aks anything!Sorry if there are some mistakes. I´m still learning both Japanese and English. So, feel free to make corrections.
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angel poring thank you about the "cute" but sometimes i think that I'm just crazy..
But you know some hours after watch this 5 ep.. i understand a lot more..
and i'm feeling better...
Now about what you wrote and Angel poring.. i was think that is hard to people who read the manga to talk about this ep... or at least who is think about the manga first of all...
I ask think about people that don't read or watched anything about HYD... what they thougth? It was too fast? Weird?
and it is in portuguese \o/
Well i kind liked more when i understand now... that i saw that have some important lines ...
but is still has a hole in my heat *I'm helpless
But i was think for now...
And again Shiruchan i'm so happy to have a good friend like you
Hi!! I'm so sorry.. yes i was watching again with my sister.. but my friend shows up and i was way from my computer... so i'm really sorry... i did wanna talk about this ep too.. i still confused...shiruchan wrote: makino_sanbr, I tried to talk to you on MSN, but you were watching HYD...
I just fell the same way as you. I don´t know yet what I´m feeling about this episode....
I guess I´m more dissapointed than happy with this episode.
But you know some hours after watch this 5 ep.. i understand a lot more..
and i'm feeling better...
Now about what you wrote and Angel poring.. i was think that is hard to people who read the manga to talk about this ep... or at least who is think about the manga first of all...
I ask think about people that don't read or watched anything about HYD... what they thougth? It was too fast? Weird?
Ehhhh!!! Thank you very much my dear dear dear friend...well.. but i still would like to know what they are saying... mostly in
Well, my Japanese isn´t 100% perfect, but I understood almost everything they said on these scenes you´ve mentioned. So, I´ll try to translate them to you (I´ll write it in Portuguese, so I think you can understand it better):I hope it helps you to understand what happened better. You know, I´m always here, so you can aks anything!
and it is in portuguese \o/
Well i kind liked more when i understand now... that i saw that have some important lines ...
but is still has a hole in my heat *I'm helpless
But i was think for now...
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i found this to be a good site for a short Synopis of past and current episodes of a varierty of shows. Mostly anime, but also popular Dramas like Densha and Hana Yori Dango.
The Synopis is a good read for a clearer understanding of the episodes until of course the subs
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2005/11 ... -drama-05/
The Synopis is a good read for a clearer understanding of the episodes until of course the subs
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2005/11 ... -drama-05/
la la la la la........
This may be a stoopid question, but can someone tell me just how many episodes of Hana Yori Dango are they gonna release? Also, until which vol. in the japanese manga will be acted out in the drama?
Anyways, in my opinion I think meteor garden (taiwanese version of Hana Yori Dango" is really great but Hanadan is great too in an original-manga based script-great-charming-more classy-characters kinda way. I just don'e know how to explain it. But the whole set and plot is soooo manga-ish and beauuutiful!
One more thing, I just want to say.... I Like Matsuda Shota very much, not just like, i guess.... he's just so Kakoiii!! He's got the charming-well mannered-badboy-player-sexy thing goin' on.... wahhh!!! he's getting cuter every episode. I don't know how he's like in the manga and anime since I haven't read/watched those but I just like he's portrayal of Nishikado Sojirou, orcourse I also like the rest of the characters.
Can't wait fo the rest of the drama!!!!!!!!!
Anyways, in my opinion I think meteor garden (taiwanese version of Hana Yori Dango" is really great but Hanadan is great too in an original-manga based script-great-charming-more classy-characters kinda way. I just don'e know how to explain it. But the whole set and plot is soooo manga-ish and beauuutiful!
One more thing, I just want to say.... I Like Matsuda Shota very much, not just like, i guess.... he's just so Kakoiii!! He's got the charming-well mannered-badboy-player-sexy thing goin' on.... wahhh!!! he's getting cuter every episode. I don't know how he's like in the manga and anime since I haven't read/watched those but I just like he's portrayal of Nishikado Sojirou, orcourse I also like the rest of the characters.
Can't wait fo the rest of the drama!!!!!!!!!
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Hmmm, after reading your posts im thinking perhaps you guys should ditch the manga for a while and watch HYD. I promise its a whole lot more enjoyable. HYD is bound to disapppoint the manga fans, cos it MUST go alot faster, and different too, as compared to the manga. No way they can include all our good ol' favorite parts, and that is something we must accept. But yeah i guess it's easier than done.
I myself was a teeny bit disappointed that Tsukasa didnt have that whole "I believe you" thing. But other than that Ep 5 was good in a dramatic way. Instead of "I believe you", they have
In this ep, I think one of the main ideas it drives across is that
Actually come to think of it, if we don't compare HYD to the manga, it is actually quite well restructured and paced. Just my opinion though.
And ooh Sakurako.
I myself was a teeny bit disappointed that Tsukasa didnt have that whole "I believe you" thing. But other than that Ep 5 was good in a dramatic way. Instead of "I believe you", they have
Actually come to think of it, if we don't compare HYD to the manga, it is actually quite well restructured and paced. Just my opinion though.
And ooh Sakurako.
hehe, you know what was funny? when the cast of the J-Hanayori Dango were released MOST of the people felt that the remaining F2 (Akira + Sojirou) were too ugly, hence them being dwarfed by the 2 main F2 (Rui + Tsukasa). Infact most people frowned apond these 2, but heh im glad to see emerging fans of these other two "Less-F2" instead of the common fans that swoon a pond Rui + Tsukasa
I agree, because I'm actually a Shota fan. I think he is so cute in this so I'm going to support him alongside the others, just a little more.Aegis wrote:hehe, you know what was funny? when the cast of the J-Hanayori Dango were released MOST of the people felt that the remaining F2 (Akira + Sojirou) were too ugly, hence them being dwarfed by the 2 main F2 (Rui + Tsukasa). Infact most people frowned apond these 2, but heh im glad to see emerging fans of these other two "Less-F2" instead of the common fans that swoon a pond Rui + Tsukasa
i'm also really starting to like 'f2', as they're more commonly known. soujiro in episode 5 particularly claimed a LOT of my love. i think it's funny how people look out for the TINIEST TINIEST flaws like the way he holds the host against the wall, but doesn't really give enough credit to all the other memorable soujiro moments in the episode, including~
I also begin to like the other F2 coz they have their own share of charms. it^s juz im so absorbed to Damyouji and Rui that^s why the other 2 seems to faint a little in the background.
I know that some HYD fans were sort of confused at how the japaneese version seems to differ in a lot of scenes at the other HYDs, but i think they did it in purpose to make it even a little more unpredictable.
I know that some HYD fans were sort of confused at how the japaneese version seems to differ in a lot of scenes at the other HYDs, but i think they did it in purpose to make it even a little more unpredictable.
Agree with you, unkei. I was very dissapointed with this episode 05, but now that I´ve watched it again, and again, I kind liked it.unkei wrote:hehe i liked episode five more than episode four~
I really wanna respond to so many posts right now. But I'm too busy. This though I have to write down right now. It's a list of things that just don't make much sense to me.
1. When did Sakurako get that manicure in ep 05? It must've been done while she was waiting for Doumyouji after she had already captured Tsukushi. But look what complex manicure this is. With the decoration and everything it should've taken her about 2 hours at least, 1 if it was a really fast manicurist. (Yes, I am overly critical. ^^)
2. Where are Sourjiro, Akira and Doumyouji when Tsukushi defends Sakurako at the very end of ep 05? We see them standing at the stairrail in the close-up but they're not there in the wide angle shot. How mysterious...
3. This doesn't really belong into my list but since it's something I noticed and that has kind of bugging me... What was that with Doumyouji going on the rampage? The scene is suspiciously similar to the scene in the manga / anime when he comes from the basket ball game that he canceled after he realized he doesn't want Rui and Tsukushi to leave after all. Any hopes they won't go as far with the Rui x Tsukushi affair in the drama? *keeps her fingers crossed*
4. Why is Jun having this weird hairstyle? Nobody ever commended his funny hair so far, or did I miss something? If there's nobody making fun of it then I don't see the point in not having a normal hairstyle instead.
5. People are openly laughing at Duomyouji in ep 05. 3 episodes earlier and they were mincemeat.
6. Could it be chibi-Doumyouji was dubbed by a woman?
@slippyepic: I really wanna respond to your previous posts now but I have classes tomorrow and your posts are so long, I didn't even come to read them completely. Sorry.
@shiruchan: I know how you're feeling about not having the scene we all wanted to see so badly. But think positive,
@renko: I'd suggest we put an end to the whole karma discussion. Not because I'm tired of it or anything but I rewatched the scene yesterday and somehow it seemed so right what you said earlier. In other words: There's nothing left to argue. I'm surprised with myself but I totally changed my mind. (Weird I am...)
Another scene that proves this kind of loneliness of his is in volume 21
Edit: I just remembered just another scene that proves our theory. ^^ It's when Doumyouji dresses Tsukushi up and offers her to hang around with him and get the chance of leading an upper class life. If she had accepted, no matter what she had done after that, he'd never had fallen in love with her, definitely.
As for the conversation about masculinity and stuff, I take a rain check. Sorry, time is money.
P.S. @everyone: Watch Nya fansubs. They are sooo good. Though I understand most of what they're saying in Japanese there are too many things like proverbs or puns or references to Japanese celebreties that I don't really get without the subs.
1. When did Sakurako get that manicure in ep 05? It must've been done while she was waiting for Doumyouji after she had already captured Tsukushi. But look what complex manicure this is. With the decoration and everything it should've taken her about 2 hours at least, 1 if it was a really fast manicurist. (Yes, I am overly critical. ^^)
2. Where are Sourjiro, Akira and Doumyouji when Tsukushi defends Sakurako at the very end of ep 05? We see them standing at the stairrail in the close-up but they're not there in the wide angle shot. How mysterious...
3. This doesn't really belong into my list but since it's something I noticed and that has kind of bugging me... What was that with Doumyouji going on the rampage? The scene is suspiciously similar to the scene in the manga / anime when he comes from the basket ball game that he canceled after he realized he doesn't want Rui and Tsukushi to leave after all. Any hopes they won't go as far with the Rui x Tsukushi affair in the drama? *keeps her fingers crossed*
4. Why is Jun having this weird hairstyle? Nobody ever commended his funny hair so far, or did I miss something? If there's nobody making fun of it then I don't see the point in not having a normal hairstyle instead.
5. People are openly laughing at Duomyouji in ep 05. 3 episodes earlier and they were mincemeat.
6. Could it be chibi-Doumyouji was dubbed by a woman?
@slippyepic: I really wanna respond to your previous posts now but I have classes tomorrow and your posts are so long, I didn't even come to read them completely. Sorry.
@shiruchan: I know how you're feeling about not having the scene we all wanted to see so badly. But think positive,
Exactly. Remember volume 31 / 32The business and political world is corruptive and as that is the world Doumyoji had spent all his life in, it's no wonder he has trust issues. Having someone like Makino enter his life was no doubt a huge relief on his poor mind and heart as he had spent the last 17-18 years having no one to trust his heart to.
*sigh* So true... After I read this sentence of yours a couple of days ago I reflected on it a lot. It makes so much sense. I wonder if we all would be a bit more like Doumyouji if we couldn't see a reason to be friendly, or if there wasn't a person to do it for. It must be a sad life. Even the F4 probably wouldn't be his friends if he was just an ordinary guy. I guess he lives in a dog eat dog world. Either he accomondates to this lifestyle or he loses. Eventually he appeared to have headed for the opposite direction of what he was looking for: warmth, a person who he can trust, a true friend, a person that accepts him no matter what,... ;_;Doumyoji was deprived of all of that, and it's hard to be a good person when you have no one to be good for, especially when you can't even do it for yourself.
As for the conversation about masculinity and stuff, I take a rain check. Sorry, time is money.
P.S. @everyone: Watch Nya fansubs. They are sooo good. Though I understand most of what they're saying in Japanese there are too many things like proverbs or puns or references to Japanese celebreties that I don't really get without the subs.
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Aww!!! I started reading the posts and I read a spoiler!! Ahh that suck! It really is disappointing if there isn't an "I believe you" part. I just finished watching episode 4 [w/ eng subs] and I was going crazy waitiing for episode 5, but now I'm a little sad. The "I believe you" part was what I was really anticipating for. I wanted so badly to see how they would act that out, well, apparently I won't know. Oh well, I'm still looking forward to episode 5!
Ek ek ek... anyhow, the actors/ actress who plays my most favorite characterrs have grown on me. They're just soo cute! I love that scene when they ended up hugging eachother in the elevator. That was absolutely sweet!! And that whole grated apples thing just had me on my bed laughing, I actually ran out of breath. It's way too cute!! errr! Damn that Sakurako!!! Gosh.. I'm already itching for the next episodes to come out!
Ek ek ek... anyhow, the actors/ actress who plays my most favorite characterrs have grown on me. They're just soo cute! I love that scene when they ended up hugging eachother in the elevator. That was absolutely sweet!! And that whole grated apples thing just had me on my bed laughing, I actually ran out of breath. It's way too cute!! errr! Damn that Sakurako!!! Gosh.. I'm already itching for the next episodes to come out!
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well.. i have to apologise.. I think that i over react this episode...hmm_yeh wrote:Aww!!! I started reading the posts and I read a spoiler!! Ahh that suck! It really is disappointing if
But really was hard for me to understand...
But know that i already watched 6 times...
I can say that i liked so very much the end of this episode...
Really makes my heart milked...
I'm waiting for the subs...
I pretty much looking for how they gonna tell next...
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Follow this link or go to their siteheppy wrote:where u get the NYA subs? hehhs.. ^^Kathleen wrote: P.S. @everyone: Watch Nya fansubs. They are sooo good. Though I understand most of what they're saying in Japanese there are too many things like proverbs or puns or references to Japanese celebreties that I don't really get without the subs.
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off topic*~*~*~~
i've been downloading meteor garden for the past week. the ETA always changes. it would say 2 days, or 7 days, or 4days, or 1 day........ i figured since it took almost a week to download 50%, it would take another week to completely download the whole 1st season. well last night it was around 60%
......my brother plays alot of Halo2 on xbox live. some of you guys may know...people LOVE to cheat....other players will mod(hack into the program and start doing crazy things to win) well he started bridging(something u can do to stop other players from cheating) it works over the internet so.... when he started doing that last night, my meter garden download jumped to 90%!!!!! @___@ WOOOOWWW!! it's like a miracle!!! now i almost have it all!!!! weeee!!!
(btw... thanks to whoever is seeding it, even if it's only 3 seeders)
i've been downloading meteor garden for the past week. the ETA always changes. it would say 2 days, or 7 days, or 4days, or 1 day........ i figured since it took almost a week to download 50%, it would take another week to completely download the whole 1st season. well last night it was around 60%
......my brother plays alot of Halo2 on xbox live. some of you guys may know...people LOVE to cheat....other players will mod(hack into the program and start doing crazy things to win) well he started bridging(something u can do to stop other players from cheating) it works over the internet so.... when he started doing that last night, my meter garden download jumped to 90%!!!!! @___@ WOOOOWWW!! it's like a miracle!!! now i almost have it all!!!! weeee!!!
(btw... thanks to whoever is seeding it, even if it's only 3 seeders)
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^ I bought a black skinny tie just because of Tsukasa.
My Episode 4 just disappeared. For no apparant reason.
I am downloading the raw episode 5. It looks so good. So I'll just watch it and wait for the subs....Ahh! Tsukasa.
He's so sweet, in his own way.
The absolute cutest scene in Episode 4 is the elevator.
I was so giddy.
My Episode 4 just disappeared. For no apparant reason.
I am downloading the raw episode 5. It looks so good. So I'll just watch it and wait for the subs....Ahh! Tsukasa.
He's so sweet, in his own way.
The absolute cutest scene in Episode 4 is the elevator.
I was so giddy.
wow. it seems like almost a year since i posted here in the hyd thread.
anyway, ep 5. wow. i wanted to see lots of blood in ep 5 but i'm over it. i'm over the whole tsukushi getting beaten up down to her last breath and the whole "i believe you" line.
i'd like to say that this episode maybe is my favorite but i know there's 4 more and i don't know what else is coming so, this is definitely one of the best episodes. first and foremost the "Extras" (as i call them) got more lines (yoohoo! go F2!), i was wishing for them to appear more not that i dont' wanna see jun less but so that it balances out. it's called HYD for no reason,right? and Flower boys are none other than F4. i'm pretty sure the other two's fans are happy. also, it made me giggle when tsukushi said somewhere along this line...
something like that. wahahaha *giggles* . and also the part where
i don't know if i'd take that for someone (ok maybe for jun wahahhaha!) and put my back on the line.
basically that's the whole highlight for me. more appearance of the Extras and confessions, confessions, and arrival right at the end. what a cliffhanger!
anyway, ep 5. wow. i wanted to see lots of blood in ep 5 but i'm over it. i'm over the whole tsukushi getting beaten up down to her last breath and the whole "i believe you" line.
i'd like to say that this episode maybe is my favorite but i know there's 4 more and i don't know what else is coming so, this is definitely one of the best episodes. first and foremost the "Extras" (as i call them) got more lines (yoohoo! go F2!), i was wishing for them to appear more not that i dont' wanna see jun less but so that it balances out. it's called HYD for no reason,right? and Flower boys are none other than F4. i'm pretty sure the other two's fans are happy. also, it made me giggle when tsukushi said somewhere along this line...
something like that. wahahaha *giggles* . and also the part where
i don't know if i'd take that for someone (ok maybe for jun wahahhaha!) and put my back on the line.
basically that's the whole highlight for me. more appearance of the Extras and confessions, confessions, and arrival right at the end. what a cliffhanger!
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Ahhh Shizuka is such a beauty...but I haven't seen Casshern yet. Shame, really.
Mweheheh her scariness inspired my avy. Yes great episode! I'm sad that this ep is more than halfway through... makes me wonder what they're pickin out of the manga.BurnInYourLies wrote:omg....Sakurako is episode 5 is just plain scary and evil looking.
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That's cool Kat. I just watched Episode 5 and below are my thoughts. Seems the consensus, which I share, is that this was the worst episode so far. And personally I think the episode ended well enough that it narrowly avoided hurting the appeal of the core relationship. But, it was a close call.I really wanna respond to your previous posts now but I have classes tomorrow and your posts are so long, I didn't even come to read them completely. Sorry
Whoa. Ratings dropped to 19.0. I guess people just tuned in for Nanoka?!?
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Great observation. I feel the same way though. If I hadn't read some of the manga and watched the anime, I probably would be very satisfied. But like you I have mixed feelings on the same areas. I truly welcome differences, such as the sakurako/junpei combination. But the important parts should have been kept the same.. and the trust issue was very important on this one. I was utterly disappointed when he saw makino as a different person. I hope they won't leave out "following you to hell and back" line.. that's one of my favorites afterall... and it made HYD more meaningful for me.slippyepic wrote:
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For me, the J-drama has always done a high-wire act with the manga and for the most part, it's been successful. But, there's no doubt in my mind that I thought the writers stumbled episode 5; it wasn't so much the episode felt rushed, it just felt off/wrong through too much of it. The tone felt wrong; the editing felt wrong; the intercutting of comedy and horror elements felt completely wrong; certainly Sakurako's Cruella-de-ville turn jarred.If I hadn't read some of the manga and watched the anime, I probably would be very satisfied.
Mostly, I think the problem was the editing and the director's intention of giving us essentially an episode with psycho-thriller elements but in kinda half-ass fashion.
Here's my thing about that portion of the story.But the important parts should have been kept the same.. and the trust issue was very important on this one. I was utterly disappointed when he saw makino as a different person.
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Well you pretty much resumed what i didn't know but make me fell uneasy about this ep.5slippyepic wrote:
and besides Doumyoji feelings and lines.. we have too makino feelings
but like i said before..
When i wacthed again.. make sense.. and worked well...
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