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[Discussion] Proposal Daisakusen (Operation Love)
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you should download the eps hard subbed by Love Songnanyangwalk wrote:Whuaaa.. its has been already episode 7.. really want to watch it... humm poor me,, i dont understand any Japanese..
I have the episode 06 one, but it is in Chinese subtittle, which i also dont understand,
can anyone help me for engslid subtittle???
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we dont mean to sound demanding, we just want to say how we feel hehehe. we understand that the uploaders have a lot of priorities too.
btw, for those of you who could DL from CB, it's up in the windjp CB already!! woot!! and it's being upped onto MU and MF by leelee of LJ!! http://yamaperfection.livejournal.com/1 ... tml#cutid1
btw, for those of you who could DL from CB, it's up in the windjp CB already!! woot!! and it's being upped onto MU and MF by leelee of LJ!! http://yamaperfection.livejournal.com/1 ... tml#cutid1
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thanks for the linklunargen wrote:we dont mean to sound demanding, we just want to say how we feel hehehe. we understand that the uploaders have a lot of priorities too.
btw, for those of you who could DL from CB, it's up in the windjp CB already!! woot!! and it's being upped onto MU and MF by leelee of LJ!! http://yamaperfection.livejournal.com/1 ... tml#cutid1
downloading now~~!
Here you can stream it here. If you want to watch it raw....watch it here! ------->.http://nomanymore.blogspot.com/2007/02/ ... kusen.htmllychee87 wrote:dyiinnnggg slloooowwwllllyyyy dyinnnnnnnggg....*gasp* n e e d n e w eps tooo ssssuuurrrvvvviiiiveeee
Just saw episode 7 and it looks like it's playing out just the way I predicted. I'm seriously thinking about waiting for the next three episodes to come out so I can watch eps 8-10 in one sitting. It's excruciating to have to endure all of these cliff hangers knowing the worst is yet to come. They say the night is darkest just before the dawn. If that's true then we should not expect Ken to hit rock bottom until episode 9 or 10. The do or die climax will likely occur between 10 and 11. That's a good three weeks of vicarious agony. This may be a good time to catch up with Liar Game.
That pivotal scene where Rei tells Ken he understands nothing is coming up, and if what I dread comes true
That's about par for the course. Ken shouldn't succeed in proposing to Rei yet because he's probably unfit at that point in his life to properly conduct a real relationship with her. If they go steady too early the inevitable break-up may very well kill their relationship for good. Ken has a about a year of seasoning left before he's good to go. So those rooting for Ken should prepare to grind their teeth for at least two more episodes asTada makes hay while the sun shines on him.
BTW, I suspect Mikio didn't figure anything out. Nobody's that prescient. Somebody must have told him.
That pivotal scene where Rei tells Ken he understands nothing is coming up, and if what I dread comes true
That's about par for the course. Ken shouldn't succeed in proposing to Rei yet because he's probably unfit at that point in his life to properly conduct a real relationship with her. If they go steady too early the inevitable break-up may very well kill their relationship for good. Ken has a about a year of seasoning left before he's good to go. So those rooting for Ken should prepare to grind their teeth for at least two more episodes asTada makes hay while the sun shines on him.
BTW, I suspect Mikio didn't figure anything out. Nobody's that prescient. Somebody must have told him.
@joe>joeboygo wrote:Just saw episode 7 and it looks like it's playing out just the way I predicted. I'm seriously thinking about waiting for the next three episodes to come out so I can watch eps 8-10 in one sitting. It's excruciating to have to endure all of these cliff hangers knowing the worst is yet to come. They say the night is darkest just before the dawn. If that's true then we should not expect Ken to hit rock bottom until episode 9 or 10. The do or die climax will likely occur between 10 and 11. That's a good three weeks of vicarious agony. This may be a good time to catch up with Liar Game.
That pivotal scene where Rei tells Ken he understands nothing is coming up, and if what I dread comes true
That's about par for the course. Ken shouldn't succeed in proposing to Rei yet because he's probably unfit at that point in his life to properly conduct a real relationship with her. If they go steady too early the inevitable break-up may very well kill their relationship for good. Ken has a about a year of seasoning left before he's good to go. So those rooting for Ken should prepare to grind their teeth for at least two more episodes asTada makes hay while the sun shines on him.
BTW, I suspect Mikio didn't figure anything out. Nobody's that prescient. Somebody must have told him.
About the "dark" episodes......
on mikio:
and on ken:
and on the game:
hmmm, this weeks ratings dropped a few points. its like 14%something. i had this feeling that it will, since i've noticed that the ep succeeding a particularly depressing one loses a bit of viewership. and after what happened in ep 7, i think another drop will ensue.
Alright guys. First and foremost this is not my work, or words, and I am not trying to take away credit to the person who wrote this. This was taken from a blog that I frequent to help me fill in some of the holes that I miss when I watch this drama live. Here is the url for the blog so you can read the whole summary. http://daelite.wordpress.com/2007/05/29 ... mary-caps/........kilaalaa wrote:Graymouse wrote:
lunargen wrote:on mikio:
and on the game:
OK, here is my opinion on the game scene *puts up a sign that reads secret*
Hai, zehi. Please take the lead. These aren't fun episodes for me, but in every garden, a little rain must fall. I'm supposed to watch each episode at least three times to improve my Japanese listening skills, but I can only bear to watch these no more than once.Graymouse wrote:
Joe> Let me know when you are ready to discuss ep 7 in detail. I have some ideas that I would like to convey.
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I noticed that after watching episode 7, a lot of people are of the impression that Tada “just” realized he was attracted to Rei, as if he had been asleep until then and suddenly woke up to her existence. Let me play devil’s advocate again for the opposite view. I say he’s been checking her out for quite some time. Here’s my evidence:
So, based on that evidence, I would argue that Tada has always been attracted to Rei, but did not feel comfortable making his true intentions known to her until that point. In a way, telling everybody about it is like an act of atonement, as if to say "I haven't been honest with you guys but it's high time I stopped playing games." I think this is a more realistic view given how men are in real life. Sexual attraction in men is a heavily visual process, so a normal man doesn’t wake up one day and realize for the first time that one of his students is built like Nagasawa Masami and is very attractive. He would know this from the moment he first lays eyes on her.
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I swear, I truly believe that Tada does know about Ken's feelings for Rei and Rei has feelings for Ken. I will never put Rei's feelings for Ken in the past tense because obviously she still loves him (look at the way she looks at him at the wedding! those looks should only go to the one you love!)Graymouse wrote:@Joe>joeboygo wrote: What does that incident say about Tada? Was he thinking about how Rei would feel if he did that? Was it ok just because it worked? How much would it have sucked if she had not been receptive to his advances?
*sigh*
finally watched the episode. i listened to it this morning on my drive to work (split the vid from the aud...i REALLY couldn't wait...i needed to know what happened)
anyways
mikio
erixtsuru
fairy
ken
also, i need to apologize about my post about wanting the episode to be out when it wasn't out yet. i did not at all intend for it to come across as me pressuring the people who record/compress/upload the torrent for us to drop what they're doing and do it. it was more so meant to show my "ansyness" about wanting to see what happened next...especially after ep 6. which also i wanted to comment about...i would think that after ep 6, viewership would've skyrocketed. like "holy crap...i can't believe what happened...i need to see what happens next..."
definitely one of my favorite dramas ever.
finally watched the episode. i listened to it this morning on my drive to work (split the vid from the aud...i REALLY couldn't wait...i needed to know what happened)
anyways
mikio
definitely one of my favorite dramas ever.
If you want encouraging symbolism, don't look for it in episodes 6 or 7. Believe me I've tried. It's been brutal. Instead, go back to happy, sunny, honey-dipped episode 5. In the grocery store he was pushing the natto while she was insisting on hanpen. Those are two flavor extremes that go together very well. Then when they get home, take note of the two things she grabs to put in the fridge, which leads to a happy discovery. It's a sign, I tell you, A SIGN!lilsh0rtnancy wrote:
Then when they both get back after THE SCENE what do they find? Tada has mixed up their ingredients into a Kansai style batter. If you come from Hiroshima, like she does, that's like, a mortal sin. And if Tada thought flipping an Osaka okonomiyage was difficult, he should try doing it with the Hiroshima style. Check out the Dotch Cooking Show episode on okonomiyage and you'll see what I mean. Anyway, what does all this symbolism mean? It means he's doomed, that's what. End of story. Fast forward to episode 11 for THE SCENE redux. The end.
I'm losing it. I don't know how much longer I can hold on.
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I don't know what to say about this episode... Ken's attitude moved from being passive / changing best for rei to a little bit selfish side. This is also inevitable since there is no fairness in a 3 person love fight! but sometimes i don't get why ken is so indecisive about his actions. why can't he simply confess like a man! Judging by the condition right now, Tada is stil going to get rei since Ken's attempt(water balloon) got shutdown by rei. It was kind of a hassle thing to say though without considering the feeling for the other side. "I am going to throw this water balloon and if it hits, let's go out!" However rei was moved emotionally for a little while. Sometimes i don't get what rei wants. Does she want a cute / gift / innuendo confession or does she simply want a blunt plain yell of i love u?
This episode definitely sucked decision wise on Ken's part... another disappointment..
This episode definitely sucked decision wise on Ken's part... another disappointment..
something that bugs me is...rei has to know that ken likes her...just...what is she waiting for though? how many times has he walked up to her and said, "Rei, I li...."(ke you)? I mean, come on...with ken staring deep into her eyes...and the nervousness that comes from a confession...just, come on. why does it have to be ken to confess. i understand she did by herself when she thought that ken was at his apartment, but ken confesses his love for her when she's not around...at least in his mind.
*shrug*
*shrug*
Sorry for bringing up an issue that's been discussed before - to death? - but the whole Tada-Rei relationship still feels creepy to me. tritochjay above said it looks more like a senpai-kouhai one now, but they still call the man "sensei", right? And the next moment this sensei confesses his love for one of his "students." I'm not sure why they couldn't simply have a high school or university senior - a real senpai be Rei's fiance and Ken's rival. This is to me a weak point of the drama, how parts of it is downright like Kou Kou Kyoushi. Kind of distracting Maybe this is a case of signing on the celebrity first and worrying about the story later.
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Just thinking about it now. I think Rei is using that as a test for Ken's maturity. Having known him from kindergarten(iono it that's correct), Ken was always oblivious and indecisive. Maybe Rei wanted to hear the " i love you" from his own word to serve as an evidence that Ken has finally become mature and a man who knows his goal. For the vast various reason that might be lefted unclear in this episode, I really hope this will not to be down fall of the whole series. Whatever it might be, I would like Ken become mature and ambitious in a more formal and mature way. I hope he will not become ambitious due to lust and mature due to competition.aatm wrote:something that bugs me is...rei has to know that ken likes her...just...what is she waiting for though? how many times has he walked up to her and said, "Rei, I li...."(ke you)? I mean, come on...with ken staring deep into her eyes...and the nervousness that comes from a confession...just, come on. why does it have to be ken to confess. i understand she did by herself when she thought that ken was at his apartment, but ken confesses his love for her when she's not around...at least in his mind.
*shrug*
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To add to the discussion.GoddessCarlie wrote:pwner4once wrote:Definitely props for the thoughts. But as you can see the way Rei looks at Ken after each slight show, I think the smile seems more innocent and more regretting.GoddessCarlie wrote:
Thoughts:
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kinda going off of what 8thsin said, I found one that's a little suspicious....
and in regards to what kilaalaa mentioned...
and i'm pretty sure that the marathon runner is there just for comic relief, kinda like socrates...granted, socrates gave ken his seat back in episode 3? 4? but yeah.
now i'm gonna watch ep 6 now that love song's is out. my roommate wants to watch it, and she doesn't like watching the raw's since she can't understand anything. i keep reminding her that i only understand about 10-20% of the dialogue, but alot can be inferred from the on screen interaction. oh well.
now i'm gonna watch ep 6 now that love song's is out. my roommate wants to watch it, and she doesn't like watching the raw's since she can't understand anything. i keep reminding her that i only understand about 10-20% of the dialogue, but alot can be inferred from the on screen interaction. oh well.
a few pages back regarding my reply.
he doesn't have to hunt her ldown ike a wolf, all he has to do is confess he likes her. nothing else, confessing, is in no means imposing yourself on someone. unless of course in certain scenarios, where a girl already has a boyfriend and you do something like that then it's plain wrong, however, in this case Rei is boyfriendless for so long and Ken knows she likes him too...
I think it's selfish for him to wait for Rei to come to him...how can you expect Rei to say she loves him first? Making her life better is one thing, but I think Rei is so miserable because of the way Ken treats her and he makes it better each time he goes back, but the ultimate thing that would make her happy would be for him to confess then ask her out.
in episode 7, it's quite sad actually, you guys can contemplate how tada is conniving and all, but Ken had so many chances and he just couldn't pull it off....
i know you guys have sympathy for ken and see another perspective that will support the 2 main leading actors, but somehow I think he's overcomplicating things, and dragging things for too long, it's time someone who is capable of being a real man steps up to the plate. my 2 cents.
he doesn't have to hunt her ldown ike a wolf, all he has to do is confess he likes her. nothing else, confessing, is in no means imposing yourself on someone. unless of course in certain scenarios, where a girl already has a boyfriend and you do something like that then it's plain wrong, however, in this case Rei is boyfriendless for so long and Ken knows she likes him too...
I think it's selfish for him to wait for Rei to come to him...how can you expect Rei to say she loves him first? Making her life better is one thing, but I think Rei is so miserable because of the way Ken treats her and he makes it better each time he goes back, but the ultimate thing that would make her happy would be for him to confess then ask her out.
in episode 7, it's quite sad actually, you guys can contemplate how tada is conniving and all, but Ken had so many chances and he just couldn't pull it off....
i know you guys have sympathy for ken and see another perspective that will support the 2 main leading actors, but somehow I think he's overcomplicating things, and dragging things for too long, it's time someone who is capable of being a real man steps up to the plate. my 2 cents.
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[/u][/b]lunargen wrote:this feeling has been creeping up on me for some time now. i didn't understand why, but now, i think i do. if you are queasy with crass words, please skip this post. I am enraged, so please forgive me:
You have some very intresting points however I will have to dissagree with you on some points.
You said:
I say:Ok next you said:This his how I respond to this. I am married and I believe me when I tell you this I have disappointed my wife many times and I will more than likely dissappoint her many more times but there is something that keeps us together. Its called compromise. If Rei and Ken would end up getting married, they will have to come to an understanding and work with each other to help better understand each other. I will give you this though if Rei and Ken don't learn to compromise with each others shortcomming then it will never work out between them. ( which I believe this is what this drama is about).
I will not agrue your point on Tada the cradle robber and choose not to write too much about him or I will just end being mad as Just thinking about what he is doing just gets me fired up.
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