[Discussion] Yama-onna Kabe-onna - Itoh Misaki
[Discussion] Yama-onna Kabe-onna - Itoh Misaki
New drama starting at July starring Itoh Misaki!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: 山おんな壁おんな (Yama-onna Kabe-onna)
Time: Thursday 10pm
Cast: Itoh Misaki
Info: http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/fujitv/news/pu ... 7-136.html
Synopsis: Based on the manga of the same title by, Atsuko Takakura. The story revolves around a woman working in a department store Itoh whose meager bust has earned her the nickname of "kabe onna" ("kabe" means "wall" and "onna" means "woman"). Unfortunately for her, a well-endowed "yama onna" ("yama" meaning "mountain") gets assigned to the same department, heightening her insecurity. (from drama wiki)
Title: 山おんな壁おんな (Yama-onna Kabe-onna)
Time: Thursday 10pm
Cast: Itoh Misaki
Info: http://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/fujitv/news/pu ... 7-136.html
Synopsis: Based on the manga of the same title by, Atsuko Takakura. The story revolves around a woman working in a department store Itoh whose meager bust has earned her the nickname of "kabe onna" ("kabe" means "wall" and "onna" means "woman"). Unfortunately for her, a well-endowed "yama onna" ("yama" meaning "mountain") gets assigned to the same department, heightening her insecurity. (from drama wiki)
I'm going to check this one out as well. Imagine that, a dorama with a breast fixation! So far this is the only show on my download que this season.
Edit: Whoa. I thought Koike Eiko was gonna be the yama onna. Instead, we get Kyoko the clusterFuk-ada? She's not particularly well stacked, is she?
Ok, by asian standards, perhaps, but in most places where English is widely spoken she's barely average, hardly mountainous at all. I suppose even an average girl will look impressively cantilevered standing beside Itoh Misaki, but I had been looking forward to somebody more bounteous. Somebody along the lines of Harada Ourei or Hanai Miri. It's not as if Kyoko can act any better than those two.
Anyway, this will probably be a "guys only" thread. So gentlemen, don't you find the English translation of the title too literal? Personally, I would have translated it along the lines of "Interesting Woman, Invisible Woman" or "Dearest Friend Woman, Casual Acquaintance Woman" or "Fortunate Woman, Always Striving Woman" or even "Box of Chocolates Woman, Hallmark Greeting Card Woman."
What do you guys think?
Edit: Whoa. I thought Koike Eiko was gonna be the yama onna. Instead, we get Kyoko the clusterFuk-ada? She's not particularly well stacked, is she?
Ok, by asian standards, perhaps, but in most places where English is widely spoken she's barely average, hardly mountainous at all. I suppose even an average girl will look impressively cantilevered standing beside Itoh Misaki, but I had been looking forward to somebody more bounteous. Somebody along the lines of Harada Ourei or Hanai Miri. It's not as if Kyoko can act any better than those two.
Anyway, this will probably be a "guys only" thread. So gentlemen, don't you find the English translation of the title too literal? Personally, I would have translated it along the lines of "Interesting Woman, Invisible Woman" or "Dearest Friend Woman, Casual Acquaintance Woman" or "Fortunate Woman, Always Striving Woman" or even "Box of Chocolates Woman, Hallmark Greeting Card Woman."
What do you guys think?
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i think this drama will be enjoyed more by guys than girls, guys will get struct by the funny parts more than girls..
i believe almost all the scenes are hillarious.. that part where the girl with the air boobs approached the director's son.. and the air boobs deflated.. LOL, the buttons scene xD, the flashback scene where the director's son hit on Ooyama.. hahaha
i believe almost all the scenes are hillarious.. that part where the girl with the air boobs approached the director's son.. and the air boobs deflated.. LOL, the buttons scene xD, the flashback scene where the director's son hit on Ooyama.. hahaha
Actually, girls can get quite a laugh out of guys acting like bakas over boobs. Plus, we generally all know at least one person with a breast complex, so I'm finding it very enjoyable. It's probably my favorite drama so far this season.
I loved the deflating bra scene and so did my mom! Apparently, my great aunt had an inflatable bra when my mom was young... and it did indeed go flat frequently. Though mom said it didn't make such a fabulous noise from what she remembers.
And as much as I love Oikawa Mitsuhiro's reactions and the scene starting at 19:48, I particularly adore the bits before that when he's at the counter hitting on Megumi through the ensuing conversation with Mr. Nosehair Toupe.
I loved the deflating bra scene and so did my mom! Apparently, my great aunt had an inflatable bra when my mom was young... and it did indeed go flat frequently. Though mom said it didn't make such a fabulous noise from what she remembers.
And as much as I love Oikawa Mitsuhiro's reactions and the scene starting at 19:48, I particularly adore the bits before that when he's at the counter hitting on Megumi through the ensuing conversation with Mr. Nosehair Toupe.
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Oh, it's funny, but hell... Some of the jokes are so damn cheap and so typical male. Pie-in-the-face looks like great comedy compared to them.
And Kyoko with those... life-rafts... oivech... Honestly... jeez... I'd like to be at the set with a needle *eyeshift* Gotta find out whether they're balloons or pillows *cackle* I still think her natural size looks better, then again, I don't like big'uns.
However, within all the fun... I think there's also a, somewhat, sad message. The woman gets reduced to her boobs. Oivech.
And Kyoko with those... life-rafts... oivech... Honestly... jeez... I'd like to be at the set with a needle *eyeshift* Gotta find out whether they're balloons or pillows *cackle* I still think her natural size looks better, then again, I don't like big'uns.
However, within all the fun... I think there's also a, somewhat, sad message. The woman gets reduced to her boobs. Oivech.
Crazy Penguin wrote:However, within all the fun... I think there's also a, somewhat, sad message. The woman gets reduced to her boobs. Oivech.
I'd say it's more like the fact that we all have insecurities, and there will always be someone/something around to remind you of them. You have to first be able to just like yourself. It doesn't matter if it's men ogling a girl with bigger boobs, your boyfriend saying a size 2 super model has a fat *** when you know your size 7 butt is a good deal larger, or somebody with the same talent as you making you feel replacable in a niche you thought you filled. They're all normal human experiences. Our personal insecurities are what magnifies the importance these things have on us. It's good to laugh at it now and again.
So if the women get reduced to our boobs, does that mean we should be suggesting something like....
Worm Man Tree Man
for the sequel? LOL
Here are a couple questions about the drama:
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Personally, I don't find this show particularly amusing. I have nothing against physical comedy, but I don't think absurd situations can substitute for actual substance. It was a chore to just get through the first episode; how they intend to fill 12 shows with breast related mishaps isn't exactly clear to me.
There's a lot of potential for comedy related to people's various insecurities, but I don't think this is well achieved by reducing characters to characitures. Of course I have only seen the first episode, so things could change as time goes on. But for now, I can't really say I'd recommend this show unless you are looking for cheap, brainless laughs.
There's a lot of potential for comedy related to people's various insecurities, but I don't think this is well achieved by reducing characters to characitures. Of course I have only seen the first episode, so things could change as time goes on. But for now, I can't really say I'd recommend this show unless you are looking for cheap, brainless laughs.
just watched ep 1 and I love it! even with this season full of interesting dramas to watch I still look forward to this one the most. haven't seen Kyoko Fukada for a while and glad to see her as a likeable character for a change! although her huge breasts don't seem natural at all...
love the ending theme~ is that the one by EXILE? and I'm curious about this Iguchi character's role between the two leading ladies..
overall, that was a satisfying first episode! can't wait to watch the second one~
love the ending theme~ is that the one by EXILE? and I'm curious about this Iguchi character's role between the two leading ladies..
overall, that was a satisfying first episode! can't wait to watch the second one~
um, just watched ep1 not long ago. I'm a comedy drama type of guy, I laugh (hard) at almost all sorts of stuff. But i found ep 1 to be not as awesome as everyone say it is...... like the button joke was used 4 or 5 times . Like someone said before, its ok for comedy but I really don't know how they are going to fill all the episodes with breast jokes to be honest.
And clearly, fukada is stuffed too, to emphasize the "difference"
I hope i enjoy the future episodes better and thanks for the subs as always.
And clearly, fukada is stuffed too, to emphasize the "difference"
I hope i enjoy the future episodes better and thanks for the subs as always.
Could anyone tell me, what kind of dialect Iguchi (and Megumi) is (are) speaking?
Megumi says in Episode 1 that it's Tsugaru-ben, but in Episode 2, when she talks with this guy at the gokon, it is said that she comes from Aomori prefecture. So is the latter a part of a larger region, eventually called Tsugaru?
I just want to know for sure (my Geography skills are really bad, to look this up on my own), because I think that it sounds very cool. Might like it better than Ôsaka-ben. ^^
Does anyone know a website dealing with this dialect?
Megumi says in Episode 1 that it's Tsugaru-ben, but in Episode 2, when she talks with this guy at the gokon, it is said that she comes from Aomori prefecture. So is the latter a part of a larger region, eventually called Tsugaru?
I just want to know for sure (my Geography skills are really bad, to look this up on my own), because I think that it sounds very cool. Might like it better than Ôsaka-ben. ^^
Does anyone know a website dealing with this dialect?
^Aomori is the prefecture. Tsugaru is simply the name for the western part of the prefecture, usually in reference to the Tsugaru Peninsula, which juts into the Tsugaru Strait between Honshuu (the main island of Japan) and Hokkaidou.
As for learning the dialect, it might sound cool, but it's extremely difficult to understand for even native speakers of "standard" Japanese, which means few people, if any, will be able to understand you (assuming you get good enough at using it). Kansai dialects like Oosaka-ben are much more intelligible to the average Japanese.
As for learning the dialect, it might sound cool, but it's extremely difficult to understand for even native speakers of "standard" Japanese, which means few people, if any, will be able to understand you (assuming you get good enough at using it). Kansai dialects like Oosaka-ben are much more intelligible to the average Japanese.
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There is definitely romance in the second half of the series, and it's been really fun to watch. The series really gets better each week, so you've got lots to look forward to!blueseeker wrote:Ah you guys are so lucky, am just to episode 8 and am just dying to see some romance happening already. Thank you for the spoiler though, it gives a lot of hope for those of us waiting...hehe.
@moderagio
It's great to see life on the thread. The boob jokes really have been replaced by the story now, and it's good. Since most folks are probably watching with the subs, maybe we should back the conversation up to the most recently subbed episodes.
Episode 7:
Episode 8:
Finale airs tomorrow. I'm so excited! No clue what I'm gonna do without this show to look forward to every week.
Episode 7:
Is this the girl? http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Uehara_Misa
There are two girls in this drama that look a ton alike. One of Aoyagi's friends and one of Ooyama's friends. That girl is definitely one of them.
My personal opinion only:
I think the boobs jokes are hilarious, original and funny. I am a kabe onna and that who I am. This is one of few dramas that even though there are a lot of sexual comments and stares and gestures I as a female do not get offended. This drama has everything and nothing is a cliché. If you pay attention there is no prince charming or a perfect princess in this drama everyone has a flaw and that is what makes it so real and funny.
I just finish watching episodes 9 and I think up to now this was the best episode. Did't you loved the heating part and ice packs?
cheers
I think the boobs jokes are hilarious, original and funny. I am a kabe onna and that who I am. This is one of few dramas that even though there are a lot of sexual comments and stares and gestures I as a female do not get offended. This drama has everything and nothing is a cliché. If you pay attention there is no prince charming or a perfect princess in this drama everyone has a flaw and that is what makes it so real and funny.
I just finish watching episodes 9 and I think up to now this was the best episode. Did't you loved the heating part and ice packs?
cheers
Nope, Misa Uehara is one of Aoyagi's friends, the one I'm wondering about is the friend of Ooyama. But thanks for trying,atskv9 wrote:
Is this the girl? http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Uehara_Misa
There are two girls in this drama that look a ton alike. One of Aoyagi's friends and one of Ooyama's friends. That girl is definitely one of them.
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Same here!!! I am not offended at all with this drama! I die laughing every time that button goes flying across the room! Itoh Masaki cracks me up in this one and I think that it is a nice departure from many of the roles that I have seen her in.kamkar1 wrote:My personal opinion only:
I think the boobs jokes are hilarious, original and funny. I am a kabe onna and that who I am. This is one of few dramas that even though there are a lot of sexual comments and stares and gestures I as a female do not get offended. <snip>
cheers
All of the characters (even the jerky ones!) are genuinely likable. That is hard to do in a series. This has become one of my faves from this Summer's lineup but I am waiting for the subs for the last two eps. to finish it! (Desperately trying not to watch it without the subs! )
Uhh, three more eps right? since 9 was just released and there are 12 eps. unless you have a different subbing source!MitsukaiKuroi wrote:This has become one of my faves from this Summer's lineup but I am waiting for the subs for the last two eps. to finish it! (Desperately trying not to watch it without the subs! )
I don't think Kyoko Fukada is that big. I think she has larger ones to begin with, but they probably use a lot of padding and push up to reach the size they are on the drama.frashdi87 wrote:really?
i thought girl will offended to the series..
but i wonder is kyoko fukada is that big..
wow you are so right I was thinking the same I was so tired of her playing the same role agian and again it is a nice change...and I have a hard time not watching the rest of the episodes in raw.MitsukaiKuroi wrote:kamkar1 wrote:My personal opinion only:
Same here!!! I am not offended at all with this drama! I die laughing every time that button goes flying across the room! Itoh Masaki cracks me up in this one and I think that it is a nice departure from many of the roles that I have seen her in.
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Download the RAW video files off this site: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents ... =yama+onnakarin-chan wrote:hey guys how do you find the drama? i think this is comedy so im gonna watch this one
you're going to need to do torrents for it
then download the sub files at the first page of this thread: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_50618.htm
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yes it is worth watching The show is very funny and the interaction between everyone is great. All the roles are pretty believable too which is nice. At first the drama is pretty light-hearted but towards the end, it's focusing on some more adult situations such as love.karin-chan wrote:^^^
wow thats super atskv9... thanks!!!... is it worth watching?
Note that I changed my above post since I posted it incomplete. Everything should be correct now.
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Marie's breasts
Can someone confirm to me that Mariya Marie's breasts are actually fake i.e. they're just large for this drama, right? Because Fukada Kyoko's are nowhere like Marie's in real life?
I think everyone pretty much agreed that they had to be fake. The size was ridiculous and they were bigger than Fukada's in real life (even though hers are large to begin with). I think the point with her character was to make her look comical so artificial enhancement was definitely required. If you are looking concrete evidence, then that might take some digging and it probably won't be in English.
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Just finished watching it today. I enjoyed this series. Honestly though, I think they could've done a better ending.
But all in all, I enjoyed the series. I also love the soundtrack. I love the music(BGM) they used for this show. Its really catchy. I still hum it up to now while typing. What the?!!!
Is the soundtrack available for download? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Is the soundtrack available for download? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
The background music was fab! I always end up humming 05-ピンクの豚 (Pinku no Buta) and number 12-哀愁のデパガ. Those are the songs that usually play when things are frantic or when people are sneaking around and plotting. (I love the romantic songs too.) Here's a link for the soundtrack:TerryBogard wrote:Just finished watching it today. I enjoyed this series. Honestly though, I think they could've done a better ending.
But all in all, I enjoyed the series. I also love the soundtrack. I love the music(BGM) they used for this show. Its really catchy. I still hum it up to now while typing. What the?!!!
Is the soundtrack available for download? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
OST
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGPAK4US
About the ending:
The series is based on a manga, which is still running. I think there were about 6 volumes out last summer when they were working on the drama. Volume 8 comes out April 23, 2008. No clue how long it's going to continue running, but I suspect that contributed to them using a mechanism that ensured the ending still remained open.
I watched this a little while ago, and then I just watched Ringu 2 the other day.
And I was wondering who the an actress was, it was Fukada Kyoko, I didn't even recognize her. Of course there were 8 years in between, but I was surprised when I saw it was the same actress for Mariya Marie.
And I was wondering who the an actress was, it was Fukada Kyoko, I didn't even recognize her. Of course there were 8 years in between, but I was surprised when I saw it was the same actress for Mariya Marie.
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Oh thanks a lot for the OST !The background music was fab! I always end up humming 05-ピンクの豚 (Pinku no Buta) and number 12-哀愁のデパガ. Those are the songs that usually play when things are frantic or when people are sneaking around and plotting. (I love the romantic songs too.) Here's a link for the soundtrack:
OST
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGPAK4US
i've been looking for it so long time.
love this dorama ...
just finished it the third time today
my beloved misaki-san is incredible
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Thanks for the link ryoko11! But I can't seem to download from megaupload. That country limit is a pain.ryoko11 wrote:TerryBogard wrote:Just finished watching it today. I enjoyed this series. Honestly though, I think they could've done a better ending.
The background music was fab! I always end up humming 05-ピンクの豚 (Pinku no Buta) and number 12-哀愁のデパガ. Those are the songs that usually play when things are frantic or when people are sneaking around and plotting. (I love the romantic songs too.) Here's a link for the soundtrack:
OST
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGPAK4US
About the ending:
The series is based on a manga, which is still running. I think there were about 6 volumes out last summer when they were working on the drama. Volume 8 comes out April 23, 2008. No clue how long it's going to continue running, but I suspect that contributed to them using a mechanism that ensured the ending still remained open.
The messageboard on the official site has lots of the viewers asking for a continuation. I wouldn't mind that at all, provided they have enough manga to work from and don't just leave us hanging again.
If anyone could upload it on a different site (or torrent it), Please do. I will be greatly indebted to you.
I hope I did not sound like I'm overanalyzing the ending. Believe me I didn't. That was just the impression it gave me and I just didn't like it. But hopefully, there will be a season 2 for this series.
http://rapidshare.com/files/110479135/Y ... T.rar.htmlThanks for the link ryoko11! But I can't seem to download from megaupload. That country limit is a pain.
If anyone could upload it on a different site (or torrent it), Please do. I will be greatly indebted to you.
hopefully, rapidshare works for you
it's such a great OST
I don't think you sounded like you're overanalyzing the ending. I just think I had a tendancy to do so after seeing the drama. I finally had to stop, though I'd still love to track down the manga to see how similar/different the two are.TerryBogard wrote: I hope I did not sound like I'm overanalyzing the ending. Believe me I didn't. That was just the impression it gave me and I just didn't like it. But hopefully, there will be a season 2 for this series.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANKYOU!!!!underdose wrote:http://rapidshare.com/files/110479135/Y ... T.rar.htmlThanks for the link ryoko11! But I can't seem to download from megaupload. That country limit is a pain.
If anyone could upload it on a different site (or torrent it), Please do. I will be greatly indebted to you.
hopefully, rapidshare works for you
it's such a great OST
Rapid share works fine! ^_^
Its really a very good OST. Its one of those OSTs where I like every single track. My favorites among the tracks are toki no kakera instrumental (piano version is really beautiful) and Aisho no Tepaga (哀愁のデパガ).
I'm definitely going ask my friend to get me a copy of this.
Again, many thanks to you and ryoko11. ^_^
Lookign forward to a second season for this (although I have a gut feeling there won't be).
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