It's like the superhero saying his punchline (without fail, in each episode).
But I still like the cast... oops I mean the drama itself.

hmm... I think it does require some physics.joeboygo wrote:I have have the same problem with the whole equation-writing schtick, which got very old after the second episode. It would make sense to me if the solutions to the mysteries required some form of mathematical computation. But they generally have not. Take for example episode 5, where Yukawa himself admits that the problem had absolutely nothing to do with physics. Well duh, so what was he trying to figure out while he was doodling on the police car window glass?auroragb wrote:That's the same thing that bothers me, does ANYONE know what equations he's writing? They seem to be just so arbitrary and have nothing to do with the issue at hand.
To solve it without physics would be quite simple. The genius is in putting the pieces together.seirin wrote:hmm... I think it does require some physics.joeboygo wrote:I have have the same problem with the whole equation-writing schtick, which got very old after the second episode. It would make sense to me if the solutions to the mysteries required some form of mathematical computation. But they generally have not. Take for example episode 5, where Yukawa himself admits that the problem had absolutely nothing to do with physics. Well duh, so what was he trying to figure out while he was doodling on the police car window glass?auroragb wrote:That's the same thing that bothers me, does ANYONE know what equations he's writing? They seem to be just so arbitrary and have nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Ah, my mistake, I was actually talking about episode 6 in my comment. In that episode, the solution to the mystery involved pattern recognition, not math. He sees the house and window and matches it up to the illustrated images he had seen previously. In that case the contrived computation by Yukawa actually drew the audience away from the crucial clue to the puzzle, because it tended to fool them into believing that the solution was abstract when in fact it was purely visual.seirin wrote: hmm... I think it does require some physics.
I totally agree w/ the comment about ep. 6.Ah, my mistake, I was actually talkng about about episode 6 in my comment. In that episode, the solution to the mystery involved pattern recognition, not math. He sees he house and matches it up to the illustrated images he had seen previously. In that case the contrived computation by Yukawa actually drew the audience awayfrom the crucial clue to the puzzle, because it tended to make them believe that the solution was abstract when in fact it was purely visual.
And you are right in saying that episode 5 involved physics. But whether a bow generates sufficient torque to strangle an adult isn't something you would compute. It's something you would measure, using proper instruments. So I still have an issue with the bogus math.
Don't get me wrong though. I like the show in general. I just wish they'd lose the contrived equation writing because it's excessively histrionic.
I agree that the important thing is how, but to prove the 'how' you still need a re-enactment, and that's where the calculations would come in. Yes, he doesn't have to do that on the spot; a person of his stature would probably only do an impromptu act like that if it's something really puzzling and complicated, which in this case it isn't (he should have a fairly good idea that it's feasible).joeboygo wrote:concertmistress:
I edited my comment right after yours, I'm sorry. I 'm really iterested to know your thoughts as an engineer on my additional comments, so please look over my post once more, if it's not too much trouble. Thank you.
My interpretation of that wasjoeboygo wrote:Also, to seirin, about episode 5:
Indeed, this is the case of most detective mysteries. I guess the reenactments are a kind of innovation and fun to watch but it's really just gratuitous.
I agree that the important thing is how, but to prove the 'how' you still need a re-enactment, and that's where the calculations would come in. Yes, he doesn't have to do that on the spot; a person of his stature would probably only do an impromptu act like that if it's something really puzzling and complicated, which in this case it isn't (he should have a fairly good idea that it's feasible).
The reenactment of the crime is my favorite part of a mystery story, because I prefer to be shown how a crime was committed instead of just being told. Reenactments also have more dramatic potential because the audience to the demonstration usually iincludes a skeptical or doubtful character whose skepticism is suddenly replaced by amazement when the hero's demonstration proves all doubts wrong. Reenactments are especially fun in stories that involve the classic locked/sealed room conundrum, because they are all set up to look impossible at first glance. A good sealed room mystery is extremely difficult to construct, which is why for the best mystery writers, these types of stories are the most persuasive demonstrations that their imagination is better than yours. If the mystery is not well constructed, you will either see the solution from miles away, or the reenactment will not be persuasive. Usually, reenactments fail to persuade because the same result is not guaranteed to happen each time. That is one of my problems with episode 5 becauseauroragb wrote: Indeed, this is the case of most detective mysteries. I guess the reenactments are a kind of innovation and fun to watch but it's really just gratuitous.
Ah, another Meitantei Conan fan I see...as simple as that solution is (and the author claims he always performs the re-enactment to ensure they're feasible before writing it into the story), I can also make the same claim as you did about episode 5 that it's not 100% full proof. The notebook could have collapsed prematurely, and more likey the cassette tape could get stuck or not rewound properly during the rewinding process (having hundreds of cassette tapes I know how often tapes can get stuck for no apparent reason).joeboygo wrote:For me, one of the best reenactments ever can be found in Volume 19, chapter 1 of Meitantei Conan (although the story arc actually begins in Vol. 18, ch.6). In the anime you can see it in episode 129. It is the story arc in which Haibara Aimakes her first appearance.
Indeed, engineering redundancy is generally not meant for fool-proofing, but for best chances in case of fubarconcertmistress wrote:My point is any scenario has an element of luck involved and is never 100% full proof, the key is to maximize the probability that it'll succeed and that's all you can hope for.
really? I thought the second string did it cuz it left a deeper mark. Hmm..maybe I should rewatch his explanation again.joeboygo wrote:concertmistress:
Also, to seirin, about episode 5:
Yeah!! Shingo was good ehhe He made me laugh so hard LOL I thought...that's exactly what she does and it's so annoying ^^; Goro did a funny job of exaggerating Yukawa too ^^;TabooxNightmare wrote:Galileo is a rocky boat for me. Started out good, got a bit meh towards the middle, got better again, and now I'm standing here feeling a bit lost because it's nearly over and I wished for more character development in general.
Shingo is a great Utsumi btw xD Don't you think?
She's lost the breasts she had in Yama Onna Kabe Onna (and had not in Remote)seirin wrote:hm...I'm surprised he doesn't get sued for vandalismSince he's writing graffiti everywhere. ahh in the last subbed episode, I didn't even realize that was kyoko fukada. She seems to have lost quite a bit of weight ^^; Or maybe I just haven't seen her for a long time and forgot how she looks like.
yeah,I was thinking about that too.Maybe in the movie,if not in the drama?kiddygrade wrote:Just to know: one of the last tracks on Galileo OST is called "Yukawa Manabu x Utsumi Kaoru" and is definitely soft and lovey-dovey. Can we consider it a spoiler?
Like somebody said,he's lucky nobody sues him for vandalism yet.3. He wrote equations on a police car window once, and scribbled on asphalt with a rock once... I want to see him wreak havok by scribbling random equations on a police car with a rock or equivalent outrageous damage
More than any other actress I've seen, this girl's looks can shift radically from one extreme to the other depending on her coifure. When properly styled she's very pretty, but on a bad hair day she's an absolute dog. I watched her in this airline series (forgot the title) where she and Kimutaku worked for ANA, and I thought at the time she was quite the looker. But then I saw her in Orange Days with those mute girl bangs - ugh!8thSin wrote:Disaster with her hair -_-;
Shymsal wrote:I have a theory about the annoying scrawling of equations -- which I agree can't possibly be helpful in any real sense. I think he uses it as a sort of focusing device; they may or may not be related to his theories regarding the case, but he just uses the action of writing them out to center himself while he thinks. Just an idea...
The trouble with the phony equations isn't an issue of plot-related substance, but one of style, or lack thereof, in the presentation. Fukuyama is an idiosyncratic character, we all know that by now. If he needs to do something strange in order to function, like say, scribbling irrelevant pseudo-computations, we can easily buy that. The problem is, do we have to watch him do this in the same overwrought sequence each freakin episode?Shymsal wrote:I have a theory about the annoying scrawling of equations -- which I agree can't possibly be helpful in any real sense. I think he uses it as a sort of focusing device; they may or may not be related to his theories regarding the case, but he just uses the action of writing them out to center himself while he thinks. Just an idea...
I stopped paying attention to his scribbling a long time ago. (They aren't showing the whole calculation anyways, why should I follow it.) I do remember in the episode where the boy saw the red car from across the river, he did indeed write something that look like Snell's law to me. And in the episode where they were trying to solve the lady that hung herself, I sort of remember him starting to write Bernoulli's law on the clear glass inside the company lounge. I think the equations are meant to be relevant to the physics behind the cases. To the general public, the calculations meant squat and could probably be omitted after the first few episodes.joeboygo wrote:
The trouble with the phony equations isn't an issue of plot-related substance, but one of style, or lack thereof, in the presentation.
I thought those were his neurons firing. Is that what you are talking about, the vortex? The neuron soma (cell body) is globular and it has extensions that connects to other neurons. I suppose it is their feeble attempt to show Yukawa's brain is working.joeboygo wrote:Over-production worsens the problem, what with all the vortex effects, overlaid graphics and triumphant bg music drawing even more undue attention to random alphanumeric scribblings that everybody knows don't mean squat.
Have you tried Veoh.com? I watched all 10 english subtitle episodes from thereYorokobi wrote:it turns out that site doesnt have it
anyone else know where i can get it?
SARS offers downloads via IRC, it's not hard to figure out how to use it, just google.Yorokobi wrote:is there anywhere to direct download this?
i don't have IRC and i cant download it onto this conputer8thSin wrote:SARS offers downloads via IRC, it's not hard to figure out how to use it, just google.Yorokobi wrote:is there anywhere to direct download this?
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